Author Topic: It's time for a third gender option. (Read 6009 times)

Bliss · « **Reply #50 on:** May 29, 2009, 11:46:41 AM »

I know it was a joke; gave me an actual out loud chuckle, in fact.

Valerian · « **Reply #51 on:** May 29, 2009, 11:51:17 AM »

Peer isn't a specific rank like lord or duchess; it refers to peers of the realm, as Caeli mentioned -- basically anyone born to a titled family. It's used more in England, but it is about as gender-neutral as one can get.

Liege is not, technically, a rank either, but it does fit very well with the general scheme of things. :)

Champion is perhaps the best option so far... though yeah, Dame doesn't sound very warlike, either. Heh.

Trieste · « **Reply #52 on:** May 29, 2009, 11:52:23 AM »

It depends on how you've been thinking of Dame most of your life... Dames, to me, are formidable ladies that may not necessarily carry a sword, but they are ladies with whom you do not want to mess.

Vekseid · « **Reply #53 on:** May 29, 2009, 12:06:40 PM »

Quote from: Xillen on May 29, 2009, 11:40:38 AM

Dame doesn't strike me as a warrior-type person, which made me think Noble would very well fit on the Knight/Dame level.

If you want the warrior-type person, Champion sounds best to me out of the mentioned options. What about Hero?

Relax, the IRC thingy was just a joke Still, I wonder how many people have actually heard of Peer as a social rank? I sure haven't, and it sounds really odd to me.

Dame is the term for a female knight. I have no worries about using obscure references >_>

Caeli · « **Reply #54 on:** May 29, 2009, 12:08:43 PM »

I think warrior was mentioned above? That could work well, if you want something more formidable than "peer".

Mithlomwen · « **Reply #55 on:** May 29, 2009, 12:47:19 PM »

Found this...not sure if it can be applied in any way.

Baronetcies

Like knights, baronets are styled 'Sir', and their wives 'Lady', but, unlike a knighthood, this is a heritable honour. The suffix 'Baronet', usually abbreviated to 'Bt', is also added to the name.

jilorbb · « **Reply #56 on:** May 29, 2009, 04:14:47 PM »

I think Liege is the best so far.

Also - has anyone suggested Regent yet?

As far as the Knight/Dame aspect -
Champion
Defender
Guardian
Sentinel

But I've just used a thesaurus for these and they're more than one syllable.

I have a stake in this so I really do hope that it comes to be. And I thank you for considering it.

Avi · « **Reply #57 on:** May 29, 2009, 05:10:27 PM »

Perhaps Deity for someone who gets high enough in rank to be the same as a god/goddess?

HairyHeretic · « **Reply #58 on:** May 29, 2009, 05:27:33 PM »

Aye, that's an easy one.

Vekseid · « **Reply #59 on:** May 29, 2009, 05:34:28 PM »

Quote from: jilorbb on May 29, 2009, 04:14:47 PM

I think Liege is the best so far.

Also - has anyone suggested Regent yet?

As far as the Knight/Dame aspect -
Champion
Defender
Guardian
Sentinel

But I've just used a thesaurus for these and they're more than one syllable.

I have a stake in this so I really do hope that it comes to be. And I thank you for considering it.

It's been one of those things we've been mulling over for a few years, the primary reason why not is because the appropriate forum would have been rather quiet, the secondary being most intersexed, third sex and transgender types favor a gender, so didn't have to worry about the lack.

Xillen · « **Reply #60 on:** May 29, 2009, 05:40:16 PM »

Quote from: Vekseid on May 29, 2009, 05:34:28 PM

the primary reason why not is because the appropriate forum would have been rather quiet,

But they're going to get their own "Liege only" and "On and Offs - Lieges" boards, right?

* Xillen still wonders if Vek is planning on adding a Gender option. Shouldn't be too hard to hack into the board.

The Golden Touch · « **Reply #61 on:** May 29, 2009, 08:17:22 PM »

Some potential names:
Hero
Heroine
Patron
Partisan

Fragile Dreams · « **Reply #62 on:** May 29, 2009, 08:20:10 PM »

Here are some thoughts i had after some time.(Yeah, i do that some times.

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Satyr -> Priest
Siren -> Priestess
Knight -> Protector
Dame -> Sentinel
Lord -> Bacchus
Lady -> Bacchae

I know that Bacchae brings of the Maenades, which were crazy priestesses of Dionysus, but i think it fits nice in the forum as word.
Also another idea was the Sirens/Satyrs to be merged as Arch-angels.

Karma · « **Reply #63 on:** May 30, 2009, 12:39:00 AM »

Boy, now I just have to decide if I feel strongly enough to switch to the third option... heh.

HairyHeretic · « **Reply #64 on:** May 30, 2009, 03:33:25 AM »

Quote from: Fragile Dreams on May 29, 2009, 08:20:10 PM

Satyr -> Priest
Siren -> Priestess

Also another idea was the Sirens/Satyrs to be merged as Arch-angels.

Can't say I'd care much for these myself.

The Dark Raven · « **Reply #65 on:** May 30, 2009, 10:24:56 AM »

Quote from: Bliss on May 29, 2009, 10:47:57 AM

AUGH, I don't know why I didn't think of this before! I'm in the SCA, and there's a level for people who have made a certain achievement, be they male or female, called LAUREL! What think you, kind gentles?

ie...

Knight = Chivalry
Laurel = Arts
Pelican = Service

;-)

The problem would be, for those of us in the SCA, we'd be looking for belts and GoAs.... ;-)

Nadir · « **Reply #66 on:** May 30, 2009, 10:35:17 AM »

I personally prefer Laird for the Lord/Lady option.

Karma · « **Reply #67 on:** May 30, 2009, 11:30:37 AM »

I like Laird and Laurel, myself.

Transgirlenstein · « **Reply #68 on:** May 31, 2009, 09:53:48 AM »

Sorry if I'm a bit late into this but I have only one question, if someone identifies as other (that is gender queen, transgender and so on and so forth), how does one tell what gender they wish to identify is?

For example, If I am tagged as other..how do you know what I want to be referred to as? He, she or it?

Vekseid · « **Reply #69 on:** May 31, 2009, 09:57:06 AM »

You set that in your profile already, next to 'Gender' there : )

Oniya · « **Reply #70 on:** May 31, 2009, 09:59:12 AM »

I believe this would be for the tag, and then the gender icon below would be used for determining pronouns? (Or people could - I don't know - ask? Yay, communication!)

Transgirlenstein · « **Reply #71 on:** May 31, 2009, 10:07:38 AM »

Oh okay! ^^

Heh, my comment and complaint is withdrawn then.

<3

Trieste · « **Reply #72 on:** May 31, 2009, 11:15:00 AM »

* Trieste has been known to ask what pronoun to use when she's confused, and has never had anyone get offended about it. :)

Cecilia · « **Reply #73 on:** May 31, 2009, 12:00:37 PM »

I like the "lord, lady, laurel" "knight, dame, patron". "satyr, siren, sidhe". "god, goddess, deity" scheme... It adds what's been missing without changing everything all around.

The Golden Touch · « **Reply #74 on:** May 31, 2009, 12:06:30 PM »

-Huggles Cecilia-

I like those options as well. Though, patron does not have the 'warrior' quality... It does mean they help support the site though. But I like Laurel, Patron, Sidhe, and Deity. ^ ^