Being any kind of conservative sucks

Started by GloomCookie, November 05, 2021, 11:27:20 PM

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I never should have started this thread. I'm sorry if I made people upset. I'm going to lock it and walk away.
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Quote from: GloomCookie on November 08, 2021, 03:50:23 AM
I never said it was ok to be wrong. I started this because I was tired of getting sniped at for having opinions, for seeing a different world than everyone else and getting ridiculed and hated for it.

Opinions like this one:

Quote from: GloomCookie on November 06, 2021, 08:12:16 AM
... And yes, sometimes you get holocaust deniers in your groups. That happens. It's called having opinions. Do I agree with those opinions? Hell no, but these are movers and shakers in government. You can't have a functioning party without them. The first amendment protects people for a reason, even if we don't like it.

This is a pretty horrific take. Refusing to demand better from your leaders.

The First Amendment of the United States Constitution is a wonderful thing. It, combined with Supreme Court rulings over the past half-century, are a big part of what makes the US the only country in which Elliquiy can legally operate.

The First Amendment does not require an opinion be respected. Respect is an earned currency, you cannot just demand it of people.

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Climate change is... climate change. We don't know enough about it, and I'm going to leave it at that.

You cast aspersions about my friends' work and want to hide behind "It's just an opinion."

Your climate change statements are not opinions. They are false factual claims. We certainly know enough that drastic action needs to be taken in order to avert greater and greater climactic disasters, many of which are already underway, some of which have threatened the lives of my family. That is a fact.

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I never said women have it better everywhere, just that sometimes they do. What they do in other places sucks, but I have no power there, and can only hope things improve.

I highlighted a problem specifically within the United States.

Women who defend themselves against their abusive partners often receive harsher punishments than men who straight up murder their wives.

The fact that problems - serious problems - exist for men is certainly true. But that doesn't mean feminists or people in general should shut up about the problems women face.

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That was just something my dad said and I still don't 100% agree, it just... it made me start to question things. That's all.

So you turned to Tim Poole, a quintessential fascist whatever he may claim, as a source of wisdom who speaks 'so much sense'.

Honestly looking into him I'm trying to find one thing that 'makes sense' from any reasonably informed worldview.

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I'm tired of fighting like this. I should never have started this thread in the first place. All I've done is upset people and painted myself as a monster.

This road is not a healthy one for you. Your reply to Saria, you cite the first amendment and compelled speech regarding a country where neither apply.

You acknowledged your errors, and yet didn't. You saw the need to put your fear first and foremost, even after Saria thoroughly debunked it.

You are speaking first from fear. Acting first from fear.

There is nothing good that can do for you.

You are only going to end up more hurt.

It's never too late to stop and ask if your worldview is a bit fucked up.