[Recruitment] Gunsmoke Golarion a Gestalt Mythic 6 Pathfinder Adventure

[Re Z L]

I have an idea percolating for an elven (or maybe half-elven) investigator that was abandoned/orphaned in The Wasting, and is now trying to solve the mysteries of where the elves disappeared to (and, perhaps, how others might follow) and the root cause of The Wasting.

A few questions on the rules side of things:
• would multiclassing on one side of a gestalt be allowed? For instance, an investigator 6 / (gunslinger 5/swashbuckler 1)?
• would we have the option to pick up class levels from different classes instead of additional feats as we advance? Something like an investigator 6/brawler 6/fighter 1, for instance.
• though it would be too expensive to have at chargen, do any firearms qualify for the Inspired weapon enchantment?

The basic idea you've presented sounds reasonable to me, and for your questions...

Multiclassing on one or both sides is fine--my preference would be for you to only do it on one side
No, only feats are gained as you advance. Keep in mind you can purchase class features from classes you have at least 1 level in (or prestige classes you qualify for) with your feats.
Several of the firearms have become Simple weapons, all of those would be fine to use Inspired on

All valid concerns which I shall try to answer.

1) If you're concerned about murderhoboing, don't be. Her form of Lawful Evil is mostly about ruthless pragmatism and willingness to do what the others won't. Think of it like this; the group wants to let a bandit leader go because he surrenders and gives them what they want. Imrae is there to argue "it would be better to kill him so he doesn't come back later for revenge". Or, worst case scenario, "at least let me cut off his hand so we can claim the bounty." Not the best example, but I think you get the idea. As to how she might be working with the group, the easiest way is to say she is the most recent addition to the group (for example, if the group has been together 5 years, maybe she's only been there for 2 or 3). They hired her for a specific mission and she found them amusing enough, deciding to stick around for awhile. If that doesn't work for you, I'm sure we can come up with a better idea.

2) There wasn't really a way around the age thing. Elves don't reach adulthood (equivalent of 18) until 110. Middle-age is 175. I added a couple of decades on there because I felt it would make sense for the character to have some worldly experience and have some manner of life. I can bring it down though if you feel it is too high.

3) The book is supposed to be related to her mother's disappearance, but I hadn't come up with how yet. Wanting to go to the Darklands is about seeing the place all those stories were about. She always feels out of place on the surface, so maybe going there would help with that. That is the thought process about it anyway. Also, maybe her mother found a way back there and just never told her.

4) Not going to lie, I will probably axe the necrotoxin thing in my next draft. I really like the concept of them, but after reading more they are somewhat impractical. They either require a crafting ability too high to reach in this game, or Inquisitor doesn't have access to the needed spells for the better ones. Sooo...yea. Probably don't worry about this too much. 

All of that is very helpful, thanks :)

Another question though, would you be willing for her alignment to shift over time to good (or at least neutral)? From what you describe it sounds like she's on the more "neutral" side of Evil, though I know alignments are all pretty nebulous sometimes. Which also leads my devious GM brain into: what is she looking for in a consort? Does she just want someone totally subservient to her, or someone that would challenge her as a peer?

"Also, I don't really mind taking some inspiration from Vash, but my preference would be to not simply clone the character from top to bottom--given the tone of the game I'd probably scale back his chaotic antics. But otherwise I wouldn't really have any problems with it :)"

Is the name Vash ok. I understand I am NOT playing a clone of him. but I do prefer to keep the character name Vash. is this alright? I want to double check as I am working on a character build at the moment.

Using the name is fine with me :)

So I have a possibly dumb question due to rule interactions. Is dual-wielding revolvers a thing? If so, the standard -4/-4 or because they're smaller precision-based weapons would they be -2/-2?

This is not a particularly important question, I just like the flavor behind double guns and was wondering about the crunch behind it.

I would simply treat them as hand crossbows: "You can shoot a hand crossbow with each hand, but you take a penalty on attack rolls as if attacking with two light weapons." So to minimize those penalties you'd need to take the two-weapon fighting feats.



Wanted to get those questions out of the way first, doing a quick look over at the new submissions and any character sheets I see (character sheets are still not required, but if you want me to look at them feel free to piece one together).

[pdragon]

pdragon | Aqua

You posted RIGHT when I was about to post all the rest of this message

Nothing seems too out of place here, and the history gives me some ideas of how to incorporate his past with some of the other characters that have been submitted so far. Muteness can be a hassle sometimes, but it's possible that the members of the party all have their own sign language form, which would mitigate the issues a bit. Otherwise I don't really see any problems!

Yeah, I figured the vagueness would leave room for some potential plot hooks and what not. And communication can be a problem, but I figured that'd be one of the more entertaining parts of playing the character, having to work around it.

[Re Z L]

Current Submissions/Interest

Player            Character         Classes                 Alignment
Changingsaint     Ana Field         Rogue/Aegis             NG
Callie Del Noire  * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Muse              Kotone            Samurai/Psion           TN
AribethAmkiir     Aeleth Artorle    Sorcerer/Swashbuckler   LN
Mister Ugly       Pukamum Mawgson   Witch/Hunter            CN
Marie Reynolds    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
SilkenVenom       Imrae Naerth      Slayer/Inquisitor       LE
Ixy               Aphashe           Barbarian/Bard          CG
Vash The Stampede * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Latooni Subota    Urd Alvasdottir   Cleric/Ranger           CN
Chaosfox          * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
pdragon           Aqua               Monk/Oracle            CG
indarkestknight   * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Total people: 13 (8 characters)




I'll start up with feedback for the new character and for Muse since he added more detail now :)

Mister Ugly | Pukamum Mawgson

There's nothing particular that really jumps out at me, though it looks like Daggermark is becoming a rather large town from the way everyone describes it

Currently I don't really get the "Chaotic Neutral" from what you've put down, if anything he seems pretty balanced between law/chaos. I'm not too picky about alignments that people assign as they're not very easily defined things sometimes, but I do use it to help me get a basic idea of what the character's like.

Otherwise it looks good, and I like how Deoge reminds me of Doge

Muse | Kotone

Thanks for filling out the rest of the stuff, it's very helpful :)

Obviously nothing's really changed with your background so I'll skip that bit. In the goals you mention that she wants to do something heroic that will change the world, do you have an idea of what you'd like to go for? I don't mean something that Kotone is actively planning for, but something that you, the player, would like to possibly do.

Looking over your character sheet, I don't see anything crazy--if you're looking for languages Varisian would be a good one for her based on her history. I'm a little puzzled by the hit points which you have listed as 22+5d10, not sure what that's from or if you just haven't filled it out yet. Looks like everything is coming together pretty well though :)

Ixy | Aphashe

Looking over your gear first, it looks like everything is fine to me. If you want to have a bunch of salvaged junk that's fine as well, let's just call it 10g and we can suss out the details another time (or just make it a "magical pile of junk" )

Alternatively--and we don't need to figure it out now--I'm going to likely include and NPC helper for the chosen group that will fulfill one or two roles based on what the group decides, one of which would be taking care of carrying junk around, so you might not end up needing the burro anyway. Just food for thought for now.

SilkenVenom | Imrae Naerth

Your sheet is still pretty rough looking, but everything seems pretty good so far... Your abilities seem to be all over the place, but I think you're trying to be a switch hitter with melee and ranged?

One thing I did notice was the Weapon Focus bonus you get, that should apply to a weapon group, not just a single weapon, so for Longsword it would be Heavy Blades.

[Latooni Subota]

Should I be filling out a character sheet despite the recruitment process not being done yet? I was waiting to see who was in before I finalized the crunch.

[Re Z L]

Should I be filling out a character sheet despite the recruitment process not being done yet? I was waiting to see who was in before I finalized the crunch.

Character sheets are entirely optional at this point, if you want to make one feel free, but it won't have any bearing on who does or doesn't get accepted :)

I was just poking at the ones that I did see, and Ixy had specifically asked as well

[Marie Reynolds]

Thanks for the time and answering questions but I am going to withdraw. Cause i just can't get a sense of who the character is  and what the personality is.

[Re Z L]

Thanks for the time and answering questions but I am going to withdraw. Cause i just can't get a sense of who the character is  and what the personality is.

I understand, thanks for stopping by and showing interest :)

[SilkenVenom]

SilkenVenom | Imrae Naerth

Your sheet is still pretty rough looking, but everything seems pretty good so far... Your abilities seem to be all over the place, but I think you're trying to be a switch hitter with melee and ranged?

One thing I did notice was the Weapon Focus bonus you get, that should apply to a weapon group, not just a single weapon, so for Longsword it would be Heavy Blades.

Yea. It feels a lot harder to make a character in this than I thought. It's real rough and I'm not exactly happy it isn't coming together better. The abilities made sense to me; STR for damage, DEX for +3 AC max in medium armor, WIS needed for Inquisitor stuff, +1 INT required to have 3rd language because Drow don't start with Common (and I need to be able to communicate with everyone else), plus some CON for HP. CHA comes with +2 due to race bonus, which I could drop a bit if I wanted, but it didn't seem like those 2 points would raise up anything else more useful.

....I'm not going to lie, I've been having second thoughts about the character. It certainly feels too all over the place. 

[Latooni Subota]

Yeah, something a lot of people tend to not realize is that the really cool or thematic gestalt builds are super MAD. The more diverse your spread of abilities, the more ability scores you need. Wanna be some kinda spellsword? Now you need your caster stat, dex for AC, con since you'll be in melee, strength if you're not going the finesse route . . . it really adds up. Heck, for Urd alone I'm looking at some mix of Dex, Wis, and Cha at a minimum. Fortunately, 25 points is a LOT of 14's you could get, before racial modifiers, and Drow have some nice racial modifiers iirc.

Have you considered dropping Str and going with a finesse weapon instead? We have so many options for dex to damage now if you're worried about your melee attacks not hitting hard.

[Muse]

Yea. It feels a lot harder to make a character in this than I thought. It's real rough and I'm not exactly happy it isn't coming together better. The abilities made sense to me; STR for damage, DEX for +3 AC max in medium armor, WIS needed for Inquisitor stuff, +1 INT required to have 3rd language because Drow don't start with Common (and I need to be able to communicate with everyone else), plus some CON for HP. CHA comes with +2 due to race bonus, which I could drop a bit if I wanted, but it didn't seem like those 2 points would raise up anything else more useful.

....I'm not going to lie, I've been having second thoughts about the character. It certainly feels too all over the place. 

If that 12 inteligence is something hard to afford, all you need to do is put a rank in linguistics.  It doesn't cost anything extra to do it cross class.  :)

[Ixy]

OK, so, I'll just be chillin' and adding some background details, ideas and the like from time to time.  However, if I can help anyone out, I will gladly do so... no expert here, but please let me know!

[Revelation]

I too am happy to help with character creation or the likes. Not a PF guru by any means, but I don't mind offering what I can to others for advice.

[Re Z L]

Announcements

I don't want to keep the people that have made submissions waiting too much longer, so I'm planning to make my choices tomorrow night. Please have your submissions posted by 19 June at 10pm EST. Remember, you don't have to have the sheet completed, but I want to know that you at least have a plan for your character meaning the two (or more if multi-classing) classes you'll be using for your gestalt.

I'll do another quick round of feedbacks and answer any lingering questions later today, after I finish up some stuff in the real-world

Thanks again all for showing your interest :)

[Latooni Subota]

Sticking with Ranger, almost certainly with Cleric (Possibly Oracle as you suggested depending on how things work out fluff versus crunch/party composition). Nun with a gun!

[Muse]

Latooni, Ranger casts off of wisdom, oracle casts off of charisma. 

Of course, cleric uses charisma for channel energy. 

(Also, speaking as someone who apparently botched their last 17 social rolls, low charisma sucks.) 

[Latooni Subota]

Bold of you to assume I might not drop my Ranger spells for an archetype, or just not want to min-max for them. :)

[SilkenVenom]

Announcements

I don't want to keep the people that have made submissions waiting too much longer, so I'm planning to make my choices tomorrow night. Please have your submissions posted by 19 June at 10pm EST. Remember, you don't have to have the sheet completed, but I want to know that you at least have a plan for your character meaning the two (or more if multi-classing) classes you'll be using for your gestalt.

I'll do another quick round of feedbacks and answer any lingering questions later today, after I finish up some stuff in the real-world

Thanks again all for showing your interest :)

After much thought, I'm going to withdraw. Thanks for giving the chance; I think I learned quite a bit.

Good luck all.

[Re Z L]

After much thought, I'm going to withdraw. Thanks for giving the chance; I think I learned quite a bit.

Good luck all.

Sorry to see you go, but I understand, thanks for showing interest! If you ever need any pathfinder help in the future feel free to ask :)

[Re Z L]

Current Submissions/Interest

Player            Character         Classes                 Alignment
Changingsaint     Ana Field         Rogue/Aegis             NG
Callie Del Noire  * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Muse              Kotone            Samurai/Psion           TN
AribethAmkiir     Aeleth Artorle    Sorcerer/Swashbuckler   LN
Mister Ugly       Pukamum Mawgson   Witch/Hunter            CN
Marie Reynolds    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
SilkenVenom       Imrae Naerth      Slayer/Inquisitor       LE
Ixy               Aphashe           Barbarian/Bard          CG
Vash The Stampede Vash              Gunslinger/Monk         LG
Latooni Subota    Urd Alvasdottir   Cleric/Ranger           CN
Chaosfox          * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
pdragon           Aqua               Monk/Oracle            CG
indarkestknight   * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

13 Showed Interest
3 Withdrawn
8 Finished Submissions




Looks like there's just one feedback to do, so I'll do that first

Vash the Stampede | Vash

I notice the pacifist bit which is always interesting, if also contentious. Something I'd like to know is what would he do if one of the other characters was going to kill someone? DnD/Pathfinder is usually pretty violent so being a pacifist can be very difficult, so it's good to know what your limits are. Is killing non-sentient creatures okay? What about animals? What about magical creatures that have slightly higher than normal intelligence?

It looks like you've got a good direction going, but the other question I'd have is why would he join up with a mercenary group and stick around with them for the long-haul?

Otherwise it looks like a good start :)



I think that just about covers it...

I've already been chatting with indarkestknight too, we're just working out some details, so he'll probably have a submission soon too.

If anyone has any questions feel free to ask :)

[indarkestknight]

WIP

Safir

RACE: Human
GENDER: Male
SEXUALITY: Kinsey 1
AGE: Adult (tbd)
CLASSES: Cleric of Horus (Separatist)/Omdura (Exemplar of War)
ALIGNMENT: LN


CHARACTER HISTORY: Once upon a time, before the blight that laid waste to Golarion, the act of raising the dead was commonplace enough that every member of Osirion's royal guard had already died for the pharaoh before being charged with the safety of the royal family.

But while vanishingly rare, even in this fallen there are still a rare blessed few miracle-workers left, and the blood of pharaohs runs through the veins of one.

Where many other nations have crumbled, Osirion endures, albeit diminished. The nephew of Osirion's most recent pharaoh was named Safir for the clear blue of his eyes, but despite the Prince's mixed heritage, as he matured into a young adult, it became clear that did not disgrace him in the eyes of Osirion's old gods. Feeling threatened by the gifted young prince, the pharaoh of Osirion set quests before him, each of which he overcame in turn. Indeed, it was these very same challenges that forged Safir's strength, and in time, he grew capable of working magic that had not been seen in centuries. Fearing what he had become and that the gods, distant thought they might be, favored Safir, the pharaoh set one last quest before Safir, one that would send him to distant lands, to face dangers greater than any he'd known.

Upon accepting, Safir set out into the world, while keeping secret his pharaonic lineage and the depth of his abilities. He was dismayed to discover that despite Osirion's descent from its apex, the world beyond its borders was even worse off. In time, he trekked across land and sailed across sea,  he found himself in the company of a group of adventurers. While it took some time, he has come to trust them with his life, and, more than that, with the twin secrets of his identity and the miracles he can work.

PERSONAL GOALS:
Character goals
• complete the seemingly impossible quest
• return home to Osirion with his friends at his side
• do what he can to stabilize civilization wherever it can be fostered
• discover what has led the gods to become far more distant from Golarion than they once were
• keep his friends alive
• leave the world better for his successors than he found it

Player goals
• discovering some of the lore regarding the Pathfinders/records of their heroism, maybe decide to follow in their footsteps/found a new Pathfinder Society?
• some romance and/or sexy romps

PERSONALITY TRAITS: dignified, noblesse oblige, protective, proud

PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION: While he keeps his status as royalty quiet, Safir makes no effort to hide where he's from. He favors the fashions of Osirion, though never to the point of impracticality. Poised and self-possessed, he will rarely be seen fidgeting.

ON/OFFs:
Ons: anal, erotic massage, oral, somnophilia, squirting, titfucking,  topping femboys, vaginal, women
Offs: anal to oral, anal to vaginal, guro, noncon, scat, vore, watersports

ADDITIONAL NOTES: As an Exemplar of War Omdura with the Blessed by a God or Dragon feat and Cleric casting, Safir can cast one 4th or 5th level cleric spell per day as a 10 minute ritual. He still needs to provide any material components or foci. This gives him access to the likes of commune, divination, lesser astral projection, plane shift, scrying, and raise dead.

Pharaoh's gender is deliberately left ambiguous so Re Z L can do with that character what he pleases. Similarly, whether his mom or dad was royal, and which was a foreigner was left up in the air, but I imagine his foreign parent was probably an ambassador from another of the few remaining bastions of civilization.

Here's what I've got so far, still a few areas to flesh out.

Trying to decide on what to use as a character image... would anyone have a strong opinion one way or the other?

Trying to decide these two pieces of art – anyone got any strong feelings one way or another?

[AribethAmkiir]

Looks like a fun character.  I like the 2nd pic, myself, but why not use both?

[Muse]

  i like the first better, but i think Aribeth has the right idea. use both!  :)

[Muse]

Hey ReZL, may I make Vash a custom drawback for for being psychologically damaged when he kills someone? 

Vash keeps telling me he wants to take insanity points when it happens.  I tell him this isn't Call of Cthulhu, but suffering a morale penalty to your actions for a while after a triggering event is definitely in keeping with drawbacks? 

[Re Z L]

Hey ReZL, may I make Vash a custom drawback for for being psychologically damaged when he kills someone? 

Vash keeps telling me he wants to take insanity points when it happens.  I tell him this isn't Call of Cthulhu, but suffering a morale penalty to your actions for a while after a triggering event is definitely in keeping with drawbacks?

Something along the lines of becoming shaken for a period of time would work, probably about an hour

[AribethAmkiir]

*squees*  Tomorrow night can not come fast enough!!