Looking for DM & Group for Pathfinder 1e High Level game

[Blinkin]

Virgil, how in hell did you get a 21 initiative? I really need you toteach me how to make a real combatant. lol

[Vergil Tanner]

Virgil, how in hell did you get a 21 initiative? I really need you toteach me how to make a real combatant. lol

Lessee...

She's an Ifrit, and I took Wildfire Heart, so +4
Reactionary Trait gives +2, so that makes +6
Her Dex is +6, so that makes +12
The Improved Initiative Feat gives +4 for +16
An Initiative Boosting Ioun Stone gives +1 for +17
And finally, as a Kineticist, she took Elemental Whispers, and I picked an Initiative-boosting Familiar Form, which gives her the final +4 to reach +21. xD

[Blinkin]

Lessee...

She's an Ifrit, and I took Wildfire Heart, so +4
Reactionary Trait gives +2, so that makes +6
Her Dex is +6, so that makes +12
The Improved Initiative Feat gives +4 for +16
An Initiative Boosting Ioun Stone gives +1 for +17
And finally, as a Kineticist, she took Elemental Whispers, and I picked an Initiative-boosting Familiar Form, which gives her the final +4 to reach +21. xD

Ah Ha! I haven't even looked at ioun stones, or a wayfinder either.

MJ, I've read that cracked Ioun stones have a 20% chance of having redanence, would you allow a roll on a cracked stone? Also, can you put a cracked stone in a wayfinder? There's not a definative answer to that.

[Callie Del Noire]

I was thinking my character would run a social club/bordello of the upper class sort. Thinking just a small high end establishment. 

I’m thinking a medium sized establishment with a skill of 10 with masterwork tools? With 5-7 workers..

[Muse]

What do you mean by maximum check bonus? 

[Zaer Darkwail]

What do you mean by maximum check bonus?

Probably maximum possible you can get from NPC perhaps or overall cap how much you can provide to business check.

My end no villas or establishments, only a dojo but unsure how much that costs if anything. As lessons in his dojo are free. Perhaps part of council contract they cover expenses of dojo?

[pdragon]

Since we're talking properties and businesses, what would the rules/requirements be for a custom organization that my character doesn't own, but works for and benefits from? Like she wouldn't have paid for any of it herself, but from a meta standpoint would I have to pay if I wanted to have more control over the specifics of the building and structure and what not?

[Muse]

Can I pay something extra--maybe material cost--to get additional construction points? 

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/constructs/animated-object/

In third edition a wheeled animate object was very fast.  This doesn't even officially state that I can take speed more than once. 

Maybe add an extra engineering check requirement?  *Shrugs* 

[mjrbatou]

Quick question for the GM...

What's the difference between a Small Noble Villa and a Mansion? In regards to size, location, facilities, etc etc? What does a Mansion get, and what does that extra 6k get you if you upgrade to a Small Villa? If I'mma splash that cash, I wanna know what I'm getting first!

Both buildings where your character lives are the same size.  The extra 6k expands the size of your grounds with one or two gazebo sized buildings, a private garden/courtyard, and smaller residences so your hirelings live on your property rather than travel from their own homes to work for you each day.

the additional 14k (24k total) for the high end noble villa has the same grounds as the 'small' one, but the main house is expanded as well.

The exact room furnishings can be worked out, it's just a question of what you'd like inside the main building.

[Blinkin]

Welp, as there seems to be multiple noble, or high born, I'll have to rethink my idea. And, as everyone is doing business, What a fensing academy? He could live above the practice area, like most businesses of the time did. lol

I'll have to shift some things around, but have the gold to spare.

[Zaer Darkwail]

My char not a noble albeit granted knight status (in the city). He is more a mysterious kung-fu assassin knightly guy with full plate and spear. Who just happens run a dojo.

[Callie Del Noire]

And my character isn’t one at all

[Blinkin]

And my character isn’t one at all

Please note that I didn't say all, everyone, or even most. If my memory is correct, an it rarely is, we have a princess, or something like it, a knight (who is considered to be of the peerage , if the lowest level) and a character talking about buying a villa or mansion.  If not of the noble class, showing the wealth. There is nothing at all wrong with this and I wish everyone (note that I said everyone, not a few,  couple or even one) has a great time with this. I just decided that the plans that I was contemplating wouldn't be all that different and I want to have a character who's not going to blend into the background. So, a reworking of the background. The first attempt was going to be something of a russian with bad language skills and a bit of an overblown ego, but I couldn't make it work. The next would of been the xon of a wealthy merchant family, out to make a name and found his own leggasy and who loves his comforts. So, a new background. No problem.

[Vergil Tanner]

Both buildings where your character lives are the same size.  The extra 6k expands the size of your grounds with one or two gazebo sized buildings, a private garden/courtyard, and smaller residences so your hirelings live on your property rather than travel from their own homes to work for you each day.

the additional 14k (24k total) for the high end noble villa has the same grounds as the 'small' one, but the main house is expanded as well.

The exact room furnishings can be worked out, it's just a question of what you'd like inside the main building.

So how big are the Mansion Grounds? Or is it just the mansion and nothing else?

But okey dokey, I'll fiddle with my inventory and see if I wanna buy the villa or not xD

[Blinkin]

Introducing

Name: Harlo Glazer
Gender: Male
Age: 29
Class: Swashbuckler)Inspired Blade) 9/Fighter (Free-HandFighter) 4



Physical Description:

Harlo is a good looking man with a certain style and flare that can’t help but make him  stand out in a crowd; be it on the deck of a merchantman, or in the local tavern, he leaves

Standing at 6’, Harlo can come across as imposing, perhaps even a little menacing in the right light; his ice blue eyes  sometimes seems to look straight into the darkest, most hidden parts of the soul.

Harlo’s features, fair to any woman who falls into his sights, presents features with a strong, tanned face, a patrician nose and a defined, firm jaw that’s  accentuated by an immaculately groomed  jet black goatee.  He’s often found with a slight, mysterious smile on his lips that Suggests that he’s found something privately amusing. Although it’s probably not you. All topped by a mane of wind blown ebony locks To frame it all.

His lean, wide-shouldered form is accentuated by well toned, muscular limbs and a broad chest over a tight waist in a V-shape that runs from his shoulders. Narrow hips move with the grace of a dancer… or predator… with each deliberate movement of his legs.

Most often found in loose, comfortable tunics with well fitted leather breaches tucked into thigh high boots and a coat of contrasting color, He strikes quite a figure wherever he goes. A finely tooled weapons belt with a masterful work of art that is his rapier lays on the right; a whip rests on his other hip. A wide-brimmed, heavily plumed hat completes the image of the dashing fencer before you.

Personality:

Harlo rarely lacks for something to say, usually witty and perhaps just a little insulting, but that’s usually to his opponents. A fairly casual, easy going  man, Harlo is everything that a swashbuckler should be, urbane, polite, and loves a good duel. While he may  plan to possibly kill a man in a duel tomorrow, there is absolutely no reason why you can’t share a drink, conversation and some banter and piffy interchanges with him tonight; as long as the proper rules of etiquette are followed, he’ll even buy the drinks.

On the other hand, when the time calls for seriousness… well, he’s probably not the guy to look toward.  He’s not lazy, or doesn’t take things seriously, he just doesn’t want to look like he’s doing so. But, when the decks are awash with blood and the sails are flapping in the dead air, he’s the man you want at your back… Unless you’ve doubled crossed him, in which case, he’s still going to want to be at your back!

This is not to say that Harlo doesn’t have morals and principles; he has lots of morals and principles and you can rely on him to stick to them… you may not know what they are, but you
can be absolutely certain that he’ll follow them.

Background:

The third son of a well known merchant family, Harlo always seemed to have difficulties fitting into the family business. Not that he was lazy or  unwilling to do his part; his head was simply filled by the tales, the stories, the excitement of the adventures that many of the teamsters and traders who shipped and sold the merchandise across the country and sea. Harlo couldn’t help but dream of adventure, exploration and becoming a famous hero in his own tales someday.

When Harlo had grown to a proper age, he went out with the traders, the teamsters and learned the in’s and outs of business… and hated it! At least Until he had his first taste of the “excitement” of a gang of highwaymen who tried to waylay a convoy of wagons moving products from factory to market. although the event was more horror than exciting, surprisingly, it only added to Harlo’s wonderlust.

As the third son, Harlo knew from a young age that he wasn’t in line to inherit very much, so, he started using his inheritance early in the form of fencing lessons from a professional duelist. It was as much of a surprise to Harlo as it was to his parents that he not only that he was taking fencing lessons, but that he showed real talent for the art. Harlo soon found that he had  become a solo student for the next few years. He also took lessons from a ladies-man and the understanding of certain women in the world… another natural knack!

Finally, Harlo’s imagination and dreams couldn’t be held back any longer and our young fencer set out on the open road and adventure; at least until he ran out of sandwiches.

Harlo had not been on the road for very long before he encountered a traveling troop of entertainers and found himself working for the troop as a yardman. Over the next few months, he learned the way of the whip from two men who performed in the troop. Soon, he would become part of the act and for a year, he was as content as he had ever been. Alas, all things must pass, particularly after getting caught with the troop leader’s daughter. It was definitely time for Harlo to move on, quite quickly at that.

For the next few years, our swashbuckling duelist discovered a series of competitions between professional duelist, swordsmen and run of the mill people with a sense of adventure, just like him. Although he didn’t win many of the events, he did make a name of a sort for himself, it was just that as often as not it involved a girl in some form… It wasn’t his fault that he was so charming; girls just seemed to appear after a duel to… help him sooth his bruised ego.

To this point, Harlo’s adventures weren’t without the opportunities to  explore new places and fight monsters, of course. He traveled extensively and , once, was actually a trainer for the child of a noble house in the way of the blade. while he found that he enjoyed teaching, but it wasn't as fulfilling to him as the travel and adventures that he enjoyed more.

Eventually, Harlo found himself in a city called Shadowspire. He had been on the trail of a band of Orcs after finding them defiling a young girl before slitting her throat and carrying her corpse away. Enraged by what he saw, he followed the band to Shadowspire and he managed to track down the band one by one until all but the leader was accounted for. He discovered that this orc was hard to get to, but a local innkeeper was deeply in debt to the orc band leader and that the girl had been his punishment for not paying  on his debt in time.

With a way into the orc's home-base, he arranged to buy the debt, and the inn as well; with the debt now in his hands, he went to see the orc. Needless to say, he canceled the debt and found himself with a tavern and Inn... From the take of the previous owner of a not insignificant  hidden chest, Harlo set about improving the premises and in a moment of brilliance, set up a microbrewery, called an old dwarf that he had known from a previous adventure, and set the dwarf up to run the brewery, with the understanding that the product would be drinkable by everyone.

Thus was created "Glazer's Glorious Ale (and Mead!)  that would be sold exclusively at the newly renamed "Adventurer's Lodge and Inn." Although it's only been a few weeks, the line of ale's, mead and a recently undertaken experimentation with a harder liquir, the Lodge is quickly becoming a meeting place for adventurers, travelers and anyone with coin to drink, perhaps sleep off a bender, and quality inn in town.

[mjrbatou]

What do you mean by maximum check bonus?

The highest any character can roll in the business example I gave is a 30, or 1d20+10, even if the character has a +20 to their skill check.

So how big are the Mansion Grounds? Or is it just the mansion and nothing else?

But okey dokey, I'll fiddle with my inventory and see if I wanna buy the villa or not xD

mansion grounds cover around 100,000 square feet (about 300ft on a side) with the house up to 10,000 square feet (100ft on a side).

Villas double or triple the grounds size and double or triple the house size, depending on which one you want your focus on.

Since we're talking properties and businesses, what would the rules/requirements be for a custom organization that my character doesn't own, but works for and benefits from? Like she wouldn't have paid for any of it herself, but from a meta standpoint would I have to pay if I wanted to have more control over the specifics of the building and structure and what not?

being part of a business means you roll the check and earn money as normal.  To earn business profits you have to invest at the same rate as buying it yourself and effectively become a manager - the biggest you can get without taking it over is 1 size smaller that the biggest part of the business.

An example for a dojo is:
- an npc owns the entire dojo and its a medium business
- you can teach your own classes in the dojo as if it were a mobile business doing the work yourself
- you could live in the dojo and have full time students/apprentices who then teach regular classes that are bigger and more often than when you were alone/mobile.


Posting on my phone so I dont know how the format will end up

[mjrbatou]

Can I pay something extra--maybe material cost--to get additional construction points? 

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/constructs/animated-object/

In third edition a wheeled animate object was very fast.  This doesn't even officially state that I can take speed more than once. 

Maybe add an extra engineering check requirement?  *Shrugs*

the cost to craft a permanent animated object construct already allows more CP to be spent than what the construct is automatically allowed.  I will limit the extra CP to double the base for the size.

Also, if an object has faster movement normally, then the object starts with that base speed with the +10 option.

[Zaer Darkwail]

An example for a dojo is:
- an npc owns the entire dojo and its a medium business
- you can teach your own classes in the dojo as if it were a mobile business doing the work yourself
- you could live in the dojo and have full time students/apprentices who then teach regular classes that are bigger and more often than when you were alone/mobile.

How much money-wise it would cost to be a dojo master who lives full-time in there but then have full-time students/apprentices who then teach regular classes even while I am absent?

[mjrbatou]

How much money-wise it would cost to be a dojo master who lives full-time in there but then have full-time students/apprentices who then teach regular classes even while I am absent?

The cost to be a dojo master is the same as any other business, you choose the dojo size and pay for your maximum profit margin.  After that it could be between 6 months and a year before you earn any profit (first you're recovering what you put into your business, then you get a real profit).

Living in the dojo removes your personal expenses per month since youre using the beds, food, etc thats available in the dojo already.

[Callie Del Noire]

The cost to be a dojo master is the same as any other business, you choose the dojo size and pay for your maximum profit margin.  After that it could be between 6 months and a year before you earn any profit (first you're recovering what you put into your business, then you get a real profit).

Living in the dojo removes your personal expenses per month since youre using the beds, food, etc thats available in the dojo already.

I’m guessing I’d be doing a similar thing with my bordello/social club?

[Zaer Darkwail]

Ok, edited my items and gold around (and skill ranks). I bought/established a medium masterwork business (a large singular building complex in the capital), with 5 employees + 4 assistants (so can leave dojo unattended completely if desired), assuming my business roll penalty is -9? Or does each assistant beyond base 5 add -5 (which is base labor factor). Base DC is 10 I assume to run teaching classes in dojo or DC 15? Have 4,000gp spare for invest on business stuff/hire assistants (or other stuff).

[Vergil Tanner]

A valet is 1gp / day. If I wanted to hire some basic servants and some guards to look after the place, how much would that come to a day?

[Vergil Tanner]

ALSO. How much would extra security cost? Like...traps, alarms, defences, etc?

Side note, I was considering that my character could be the patron of like...a dancing troupe or something, or put on shows. How much would it cost to set up a theatre or something, and how would we determine the profit? I like the idea of her having a little theatre that puts on shows to the public that she sometimes performs at. xD

[Muse]

The highest any character can roll in the business example I gave is a 30, or 1d20+10, even if the character has a +20 to their skill check.mansion grounds cover around 100,000 square feet (about 300ft on a side) with the house up to 10,000 square feet (100ft on a side).

*Blinks*

That's silly.  i could work in my kitchen over a cauldron and get +32.  how does having a fully staffed buisness lower my skill by 24? 

What would i have to pay for to fix that?  Though clearly doing comisons at home is going to be a heck of a lot more profitable. 

[Vergil Tanner]

Also, just occurred to me and IDK that we don't have a healer. We're gonna end up spending a LOT of cash on healing potions xD