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Author Topic: PewDiePie and the bad word dramaz  (Read 2238 times)

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Re: PewDiePie and the bad word dramaz
« Reply #125 on: September 18, 2017, 12:25:00 PM »
Yup, I wasn't surprised when I saw that behavior. If Felix doesn't want to be seen as racist or as a Neo-Nazi sympathizer, he needs to disavow these fans and discourage this behavior from them.

Although what struck me as strange is that YouTube seems to encourage it since they apparently got rid of the feature that allowed you to block trolls from replying to your comments.
They certainly did. I hate that they won't let me block people.

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Re: PewDiePie and the bad word dramaz
« Reply #126 on: September 18, 2017, 12:43:56 PM »
Overall, YouTube subscribers as a whole are younger, mostly because older viewers tend to browse more than focus on a particular 'tuber.  (There's a reason the TV remote was invented - click..... click..... click......)  You can follow a channel 'unofficially', simply by hitting it when it pops up in the 'Recommended For You' - which it will when you've watched a particular person a few times.  There are a few channels that I return to periodically, but I haven't clicked the 'Subscribe' button.  So, yes, PDP knows that most of his 50 million subscribers are youngish.

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Re: PewDiePie and the bad word dramaz
« Reply #127 on: September 18, 2017, 12:47:19 PM »
3. Here is where I get iffy - are most of his fans children? Though even if they are, is any creator responsible for their fanbase? If a filmmaker makes a racially-charged film or something, are they responsible for all the thousands of people who watch it? Surely no?
4. The alt-right thing makes me cringe. I've seen it batted around an awful lot - to the extent that it feels watered down to me. Kind of linked to the above comment, is he responsible for what other people decide about him? I bet that if he had denounced it, plenty of people would say "Oh he's just covering!" or something like that.

The key point is that Felix is a role model for children. They look up to him and want to emulate him. Most children aren't going to give a shit about a filmmaker. He needs to be mindful of what he says especially for this reason. It's much easier for children to watch a PewDiePie video than a racially charged movie that would probably have a R or NC-17 rating.

I can't speak for all of his critics, but if he said that he denounced the alt-right and discouraged the racist and abusive behavior from his fans, I'd have taken his apology much more seriously.

They certainly did. I hate that they won't let me block people.

Another reason why I think YouTube's gone down the crapper. They care more about hits and likes than they do about protecting their users, although that's probably a different topic for a different thread.

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Re: PewDiePie and the bad word dramaz
« Reply #128 on: September 18, 2017, 01:58:15 PM »
hits and likes = advertising views, after all, and ad views = $$$.

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Re: PewDiePie and the bad word dramaz
« Reply #129 on: September 19, 2017, 09:35:56 AM »
The key point is that Felix is a role model for children. They look up to him and want to emulate him. Most children aren't going to give a shit about a filmmaker. He needs to be mindful of what he says especially for this reason. It's much easier for children to watch a PewDiePie video than a racially charged movie that would probably have a R or NC-17 rating.

I can't speak for all of his critics, but if he said that he denounced the alt-right and discouraged the racist and abusive behavior from his fans, I'd have taken his apology much more seriously.
There were bad people on both sides.....

Sorry, couldn't help myself there.
Another reason why I think YouTube's gone down the crapper. They care more about hits and likes than they do about protecting their users, although that's probably a different topic for a different thread.

That was always the case. Protecting the user is a bad businessmodel, unless they're a paying user. Getting as many hits as possible is what attracts ad agencies. Well, this may change now that big brands are finding conscientiousness attracts consumers

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Re: PewDiePie and the bad word dramaz
« Reply #130 on: September 19, 2017, 11:45:52 AM »
There were bad people on both sides.....

Sorry, couldn't help myself there.
That was always the case. Protecting the user is a bad businessmodel, unless they're a paying user. Getting as many hits as possible is what attracts ad agencies. Well, this may change now that big brands are finding conscientiousness attracts consumers

As Windfish said, the YouTube situation itself is probably a rant for another thread, but YouTube isn't even really giving a damn about the bulk of its producers - the people who create the content that the advertisers advertise on.