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Nygenn

Okay, I think I got it now. Let me tell you what I've decided.
Note that this a complete work over, a fresh start, so forget what we talked about before and move forward from here.

My character, Emiliano (yes I changed the name), is a type of succubus, or incubus rather. Only instead of feasting on the 'soul' or 'life-force' of his victims he instead absorbs their physical ailments. Anything from slight discomforts and pains to injuries, toxins, diseases, viruses, you name it, he can absorb as energy into his own body. But this energy meal needs to be digested and this is a painful, torturous even, proceeding of which the time it takes to digest and the severity of the pain it causes depends on the quality and quantity of the ailments he's absorbed. He does not actually have a limit to what or how much he can absorb, but rather the limit is on how much he digest. If he takes too much then the pain might simply become too much and cause his body to shut down which could lead to feeling weak, unconsciousness, coma, or even death. Because of this severe backlash he will be careful and selective in his healing.

This is also how he can keep himself healthy btw. He can absorb his own ailments just as easily if not easier than that of others, but this too leads to painful digestion of the energy. So in many situations he would likely much rather leave a wound to heal naturally or let a fever run its course. He can choose to absorb the ailments only party however, such as taking away the pain for example, but this would of course not help any in cases where he's healing himself since the pain will come back through the backlash anyway, but it's something he might do for others. Bear their pain for them.

Emiliano cannot share the backlash with anything or anyone else. Whatever he absorbs he needs to digest on his own. Oh and I'm saying "digest" because it seems the most appropriate way to describe the effect, but it's not like he actually has something physical to digest which he could vomit up or you can find inside him if you cut him open. (please don't try :p)

As for what the backlash entails specifically. As mentioned, the severity of it is a variable depending on how much he's absorbed or how 'serious' the ailment was. The feeling or effect of the backlash can be anything from a light nauseating feeling up to feeling as if he's being flayed alive and set on fire. It's an internal pain which is not localized anywhere and cannot be dampened or relieved in some way. It's something he just has to endure and bite through. The ordeal and be over in a matter of minutes or hours or perhaps even simmer for days. It will depend on what kind of ailments his body is trying to process and how much of it there is. Needless to say that aside from the pain this ordeal is energy draining and can leave him feeling weak and exhausted. Torture can take a lot out of you.

The actual treatment, or feasting if you will, is actually a very pleasant, potentially euphoric, sensation. Not unlike how the feeding or embrace of a vampire is sometimes described in fantasy for those who know what I'm getting at. How long it takes to fully absorb an ailment depends on its nature and severity and he can of course take as long as he wants to. But for an indication of how fast it can be I would say... healing a broken arm can take a couple of minutes, dissolving the poison from a snake or spider bite would take a bit longer but likely no more than an hour, while curing cancer can be a process of multiple hour long sessions over a span of days, perhaps weeks. (note that these are estimates of top speeds).

As for how the ailments disappear from the patient, I'm imagining it like feeling a fever break in the case of sickness, headaches, pains and feelings of nauseousness just become less and fade away, while actual wounds will heal as they naturally would have but a very accelerated pace. You can see a cut closing before your eyes and maybe leaving a scar if that's what would have happened normally anyway. Puncture wounds will close and bones and torn tendons will set and knit together again. These fast occurrences of regeneration will have a pleasantly tingling/tickling sensation. I'm sure we're all familiar with how scabs can sometimes itch? It's similar, but sped up.

What else is there... oh yeah, I want Emiliano to be able to sense any physical ailments someone has when he touches them. This goes in stages with a brief touch only telling him that something is wrong or that the person is in pain. A longer touch and deeper 'probing' can reveal the source and the intensity of it to him. He can shake someone's hand for example and sense that something is wrong. He might then prolong the handshake to try and determine what it is and badly it's affecting the person. This 'screening of a patient' is something the target feels nothing off and should go completely unnoticed by them other than perhaps a frown and wonder why this guy is maintaining the handshake for so long.

I think that about covers it doesn't it? Something to note is that Emiliano can only treat physical ailments not psychological or emotional ones, though I'm sure not being in pain or feeling sick any longer can improve someone's mental state.

As for how exactly he goes about absorbing these ailments. I am imagining thought caresses, massages, kisses, and anything more intimate with a lot of contact and exposure.

So how's that? Can we work with an Incubus Healer?

Jack of Jacks

Quote from: jeflint on July 10, 2017, 06:55:07 PM
What would these aura's look like? Would you, I ask because I use an Emotion Thesaurus, be 100% accurate our would there be wiggle room for an interpretation? For instance, nervousness and being scared aren't that far apart.

The auras would look like a ghostly sphere of figures, shapes and colors. It would be open to interpretation rather than be 100% accurate even at full mastery. Like your example, nerviousness and scared would look and feel similar to my character.

jeflint

**yawns and stretches, slowly wagging tail** Right, sleep accomplished let’s get back to this and take it by the numbers.

Unless boss beats me to it, I'll edit in my thoughts and any additional questions I have for you guys.

Quote from: CupofJoe on July 10, 2017, 07:57:22 PM
I really enjoy the idea of others being able to help fuel my power, and me being able to harm others to take their power. So I think he would be able to accept and steal energy. But the character isn't a malicious one, so the idea of maliciously taking it from someone would upset him. So maybe at one point he will end up stealing energy from someone, just so I can establish that he can actually do that.

I don't think he'd be able to do more than see and hear what the creature sees. Like I had said before, he can give orders, but that doesn't mean they will always follow. Therefore being able to take control, kind of defeats the purpose of that idea.

So, he just finds out about his power, he wants to fill the school halls with spiders, I'd say... at first he could summon about 25. This is obviously, after he's had at least a few weeks, just summoning spiders. Like I had said, at first he can only have one summon at a time. Once he can push that concentration to the back of his mind, he can start summoning more. So by the time he learns to push back his concentration, he would be strong enough to summon about 25 spiders. I feel, he could either combine all consciousness into 1 for certain situations, in others he can have them as individuals. If he wants to fill a class room with spiders, that would be 1 consciousness, and one summon. If he's sending 5 spiders into the girls locker room to spy, that would be 5 separate consciousnesses, 5 separate summons.

@CupofJoe, it’s not that you need others specifically to fuel your powers on this. Just trying to get a sense on if that’s an aspect you’d thought about. Since you say you’re using your lifeforce to channel into the creatures I thought we’d brush the topic on if you can take from others to fund your summons. If you do go the route of stealing life from others to do this we’ll have to get into the specifics of how much, how long does it take them to recover, what’s the power conversion for taking from others, does it go directly into the summon or does it go into you as a bit of a battery and then into others, if you decide to steal and not make a critter how long would you keep that? Could you even keep it without creating a creature? If you can keep it how long until it fades? Does your character get more vitality for having someone else’s life force?

So it’s going to take him how long to summon that first spider? Unless we’re talking like tarantuala’s most spiders are pretty small, I know I’m from Arizona and I’ve held those cute and cuddly guys they’re at least hand sized. Within say a few minutes he’s probably got enough to fill a room and cause a serious case of arachnophobia.

If you do merge the consciousness of the spiders does that give them say the intelligence of a dog? What happens if members of the swarm start dying?

You said that as you summon a creature more and more times it remembers you. How exactly is that accomplished? Are you keeping a rolodex of creatures in your memory? Or are you taping into another plan and forcing a creature into the form you’ve chosen and you just keep grabbing bob instead of tom each time?

Quote from: Sheng on July 10, 2017, 08:01:51 PM
If I may quote myself~
And it does sound pretty similar to the spell, although I imagine his powers to be much more contact based.

@Sheng,

Ok, I was more getting at. Does he have to physically use his hands to enact the liquificationg powers. Or could it be his feet? The top of his head? Basically just trying to figure out if it’s skin contact or if it right now is just limited to his hands. 

Quote from: Kujo on July 10, 2017, 08:13:20 PM
I did say this yes, but after some consideration I think it may be more fun if he can only use his own energy to heal others. This way his scope is much more limted. Also, I think it would be awesome if it was like he himself had this sort of rapid regeneration and what he does is take the wound onto himself. So say he transfers the fracture or cut to his own body effectively healing the patient in the span it takes to transfer and than his own much healing factor kicks in to treat the wounds. And his own healing is then a passive which is always on. This way what can happen is that if its a large wound requiring a lot of energy he might even pass out from the effort. Perhaps those are moments he needs to eat a lot to ensure he has the energy required.

Now this would mean that he has a good chance to get back up if he's shot or stabbed and not immediately killed, but of course the energy required to heal him might cause him to pass out or even  go into a coma if he's receiving multiple stab wounds and repeatedly being shot. So he's by no means invulnerable.

Another downside and possible danger to this is that his healing does nothing to remove a bullet or other object piercing him so he will need to dig /pull these objects out quickly or risk the wounds closing around them. This is why when he heals others he or someone else would need to remove the obstacles before he starts absorbing the wound.

That is exactly right. It will be important for him to keep his stamina in top condition. The better it is the more he can take and the more he can heal others.

I think this would effectively change the scope of the power into something which I don't want it to be so I'm going to say he will not have the ability to use energy from the patient or anyone else. Though if there is someone with a battery power who can super charge machines and people then I'm sure the can accomplish a whole lot if the work together. ;)
Perhaps a good suggestion for any other new players?

Who knows, maybe way, way down the line if the powers grow or expand he can develop the ability to absorb energy and or health from others. But that's another story.

At the risk of sounding very OP I want to say, yes, he can heal such things. It would be amazing if he was the cure to cancer and aids and all those other incurables, however... I don't think he can remove cancers or mutations caused by radiation because those things are actually a natural part of the body. He can remove the radiation poisoning and stop cancers from spreading perhaps but not turn back mutations it's caused.

Let me know what you think on this, because it would be cool to do, but would then also mean he could maybe remove scars from people as well. Cool for sure, but perhaps something which would make his him unnecessary powerful.

I did not know about that superstition but it sounds pretty cool. I was thinking that he can only use other organisms as outlets, so living creatures. And I say creatures because I think it would be cheating and severely reduce the awesomeness of this drawback if he can just push all his pain into a nearby tree.

So humans and animals he can use as outlets but considering what this would do to them I doubt he ever would. He'd likely end up killing any smaller creatures if he has enough negative energy stored. He can effectively use this to inflict pain on others though, which I think can lead to cool scenes down the line where he gives their enemies a taste of their own medicine this way. "you reap what you sow, asshole!"

I'm still debating if he can actually transfer the wounds or afflictions as he's absorbed them. This could create cool effects where he can effectively transfer a broken leg from a friend to an enemy, or give them the STD he just removed from a careless classmate ¬_¬  and put it on someone else, or if he's just sharing the pain he would otherwise have to endure as how bodies healing facture neutralizes the ailment. This last option is less powerful I think, but let me know your thoughts and preferences on this.

@Kujo,

As you’ve changed your power set again, I’m going to skip this for now to give your new powerset a further indepth look.

Quote from: Codexa on July 10, 2017, 08:59:30 PM
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Quote from: Greydreamer on July 11, 2017, 01:24:34 AM
The auras would look like a ghostly sphere of figures, shapes and colors. It would be open to interpretation rather than be 100% accurate even at full mastery. Like your example, nerviousness and scared would look and feel similar to my character.

@Greydreamer,

Ok. And if I recall you dropped the morality and the sexuality portion right? Now I would imagine a general “evil” thought would have a particular color, say black, that you could be like “Oh, cripes! Bad thought there.” But other than that you’re character wouldn’t have any ideas on how to proceed and would just have to watch them, is that correct?

Would you using your empathy power have any extensions of it like soothing a broken heart? Empaths are generally caring people who can relate to emotions. Just trying to see where your powers lie. Grace’s powers are influential towards others so we’d have to be careful not to tread on those toes.
                               
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Quote from: Kujo on July 10, 2017, 10:15:21 PM
Okay, I think I got it now. Let me tell you what I've decided.
Note that this a complete work over, a fresh start, so forget what we talked about before and move forward from here.

My character, Emiliano (yes I changed the name), is a type of succubus, or incubus rather. Only instead of feasting on the 'soul' or 'life-force' of his victims he instead absorbs their physical ailments. Anything from slight discomforts and pains to injuries, toxins, diseases, viruses, you name it, he can absorb as energy into his own body. But this energy meal needs to be digested and this is a painful, torturous even, proceeding of which the time it takes to digest and the severity of the pain it causes depends on the quality and quantity of the ailments he's absorbed. He does not actually have a limit to what or how much he can absorb, but rather the limit is on how much he digest. If he takes too much then the pain might simply become too much and cause his body to shut down which could lead to feeling weak, unconsciousness, coma, or even death. Because of this severe backlash he will be careful and selective in his healing.

This is also how he can keep himself healthy btw. He can absorb his own ailments just as easily if not easier than that of others, but this too leads to painful digestion of the energy. So in many situations he would likely much rather leave a wound to heal naturally or let a fever run its course. He can choose to absorb the ailments only party however, such as taking away the pain for example, but this would of course not help any in cases where he's healing himself since the pain will come back through the backlash anyway, but it's something he might do for others. Bear their pain for them.

Emiliano cannot share the backlash with anything or anyone else. Whatever he absorbs he needs to digest on his own. Oh and I'm saying "digest" because it seems the most appropriate way to describe the effect, but it's not like he actually has something physical to digest which he could vomit up or you can find inside him if you cut him open. (please don't try :p)

As for what the backlash entails specifically. As mentioned, the severity of it is a variable depending on how much he's absorbed or how 'serious' the ailment was. The feeling or effect of the backlash can be anything from a light nauseating feeling up to feeling as if he's being flayed alive and set on fire. It's an internal pain which is not localized anywhere and cannot be dampened or relieved in some way. It's something he just has to endure and bite through. The ordeal and be over in a matter of minutes or hours or perhaps even simmer for days. It will depend on what kind of ailments his body is trying to process and how much of it there is. Needless to say that aside from the pain this ordeal is energy draining and can leave him feeling weak and exhausted. Torture can take a lot out of you.

The actual treatment, or feasting if you will, is actually a very pleasant, potentially euphoric, sensation. Not unlike how the feeding or embrace of a vampire is sometimes described in fantasy for those who know what I'm getting at. How long it takes to fully absorb an ailment depends on its nature and severity and he can of course take as long as he wants to. But for an indication of how fast it can be I would say... healing a broken arm can take a couple of minutes, dissolving the poison from a snake or spider bite would take a bit longer but likely no more than an hour, while curing cancer can be a process of multiple hour long sessions over a span of days, perhaps weeks. (note that these are estimates of top speeds).

As for how the ailments disappear from the patient, I'm imagining it like feeling a fever break in the case of sickness, headaches, pains and feelings of nauseousness just become less and fade away, while actual wounds will heal as they naturally would have but a very accelerated pace. You can see a cut closing before your eyes and maybe leaving a scar if that's what would have happened normally anyway. Puncture wounds will close and bones and torn tendons will set and knit together again. These fast occurrences of regeneration will have a pleasantly tingling/tickling sensation. I'm sure we're all familiar with how scabs can sometimes itch? It's similar, but sped up.

What else is there... oh yeah, I want Emiliano to be able to sense any physical ailments someone has when he touches them. This goes in stages with a brief touch only telling him that something is wrong or that the person is in pain. A longer touch and deeper 'probing' can reveal the source and the intensity of it to him. He can shake someone's hand for example and sense that something is wrong. He might then prolong the handshake to try and determine what it is and badly it's affecting the person. This 'screening of a patient' is something the target feels nothing off and should go completely unnoticed by them other than perhaps a frown and wonder why this guy is maintaining the handshake for so long.

I think that about covers it doesn't it? Something to note is that Emiliano can only treat physical ailments not psychological or emotional ones, though I'm sure not being in pain or feeling sick any longer can improve someone's mental state.

As for how exactly he goes about absorbing these ailments. I am imagining thought caresses, massages, kisses, and anything more intimate with a lot of contact and exposure.

So how's that? Can we work with an Incubus Healer?

Just speaking for myself… wow. I don’t know how often I’d use this type of ability on others. Just saying it’s going to have to be a saint to take other’s peoples pain and suffering into themselves. It would seem to me that in a trade off of taking other people’s powers the amount of pain/suffering is reduced a bit. Not gone but the pain of a broken bone would be lessened in his own body. Just to make it so it’s not a determent to your character. Generally you’d want to use your power, once you get over hiccups, and causing yourself pain unless your character LIKES pain isn’t generally high on most people’s lists. But I digress.

How long are we talking for a “digestion” of injury? Taking the example of a broken bone it’s 6 to 12 weeks to heal that naturally. How quickly does he heal the other person? How quickly does he heal himself? How long until he can heal again? Can he heal while he’s digesting? You say he gets into overload and could pass out, what’s his structural limit for absorbing pain? In the case of say… Sasha she was chased by a spider at a size of 4” tall. A bite to a normal human wouldn’t be that bad but at that size it’s potentially fatal, could he save a victim from basically anaphalactic shock?
                               
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Quote from: jeflint on July 11, 2017, 05:10:52 AM

@Sheng,

Ok, I was more getting at. Does he have to physically use his hands to enact the liquificationg powers. Or could it be his feet? The top of his head? Basically just trying to figure out if it’s skin contact or if it right now is just limited to his hands. 



Oh, my bad!
I imagine it to be based on physical contact with his hands specifically. That's his comfort zone right now. Further down the line he might be able to start learning to do simple things like changing water into ice with just the touch of his feet, but for a long time he'll be focusing on just his hands for channeling his power.
So technically you could call it skin contact, but I doubt he'll ever grow beyond using his hands and maybe feet as conduits for his powers.
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@CupOfJoe:

Hey, Cup! Just chiming in to help and not feel so lazy :P

- So, I think that a one-fits-all range for all of your Creatures is a little arbitrary, haha. I think what would be more sensible would be a scale, so smaller creatures can go further away from him - since they take less life force and concentration - than larger creatures. The precise ranges would be up for discussion, of course, but what do you think?

- In terms of what he can summon, I think at the start what would be better would be if he could only Summon animals that he knows to exist - since it's easier for him to imagine them being in the world and how they would interact, since he's SEEN them or read about them - and as he gets more powerful, he starts being able to summon mythological creatures since the summons in general take less effort. That would also give him an interesting way to develop later on, no? It would start with making larger than average animals, and then BOOM he tries to summon a Griffin and it works. :P

- I think that what could be interesting was that instead of saying "I can either summon a small spider OR a dog, it works on a scale system. It feels more sensible to say "This is his maximum weight," like...he can EITHER summon a 100lbs dog, OR ten 10lbs animals. BUT at the start, all of those smaller animals have to be the same; he can't summon 5 10lb spiders and a 50lb dog, but he can just focus on lots and lots of spiders. Since I think it's a bit arbitrary and silly that a 10lb spider takes the same concentration and energy as a 100lb dog. Of course, if he has 10 spiders, it's harder to make them listen to him since he has to order more of them. :P And then the max weight increases over time, and one of the developments is that he starts being able to summon different weights and animals as he Masters his ability.

- Ok, so...quick question. Are the animals spiritual, like Summons in Skyrim, or are they replicated as 100% biological copies of what they would be in the real world? If the latter, maybe that's why - at first - he can't do Mythological Creatures, since he doesn't know that they even HAVE thought out biological systems. Of course, if he fights a real Griffin in-game, it becomes easier to summon because the mental block of "These don't exist" has kind of been removed. :P

- What KIND of energy can he take from outside himself and put into his creations? Would he be able to grab a live wire and funnel it in? Would he be able to stick his hand into a fire and take the heat energy? That seems a little too much like a second power...I think I would prefer it if he JUST used his personal energy reserves. He can boost it by drinking caffeine or eating something sugary, of course...but only if he could handle the Crash. xD


@Sheng:

- So! I think maybe on Day One, his area of touch effects start smaller - like, a meter or two - and they grow from there?

- Hmm...I'm not sure Gas straight to solid would be reasonable, since he's bypassing their States. Maybe at the start, he has to go through the stages - since the change takes time, it could be said that it takes time BECAUSE he's changing the molecular structure and it visibly goes to liquid, then gas - and as he gets more powerful, he takes less time, so he has the appearance of going from Gas to Solid?

- Would it ALWAYS be contact based? And as Flint asked, can he change the shape, or just the State?

- I think I saw you mention earlier changing parts of a given object rather than all of it. I imagine that would be a Mastery skill.


@Codexa:

Hey there! Come on in, we won't bite :-) *hugs Codexa and drags her in*


@Greydreamer:

Ok, so...I need to ask for clarification and some limits! Good to see you, by the way! How did you hear about us? Were you just skimming, or did you click the button in my signature in the God Arm Game? :D No real reason, just wondering how many people actually click that button :P

- So! What specifically does the Aura Sense sense? Sickness? Disease? Moral Alignment? Sexuality? What precisely can your character tell from the Aura?

- How far away is the range? How close do you need to be before your character can see the Aura?

- What can your character DO with the Aura? Is it just seeing, or can she manipulate it somehow?

- Does the Aura change if, for example, she's being lied to, or if the person doesn't like her? Or is it a static thing that just gives certain details?

- Is it possible to hide your aura from her?

- Does she have an innate understanding of what the Aura's appearance tells her or does she have to learn it as she goes along? :-)


@Kujo:

- Hey Kujo! So, since Flint and Pen are elbow deep in the rabbit hole that is your Power Choices ( :P ) I'll let them finish up yours, then I'll wade in when they're happy and satisfied and finish up. So make them happy, and I'll look at it when you have a "Finalised" proposal. :D


@Pen and Flint:

You guys are doing an amazing job. Keep it up! :-)
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@sheng,

Would his power work on mixtures? Take oil on water for example. Putting his hand into the mixture and changing that to a more rubbery surface?

What about fire? Could he, provided he wanted to, stick his hand in and make it the next step down? Or does it have to be something he can grab?
                               
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Quote from: jeflint on July 11, 2017, 05:37:18 AM
Just speaking for myself… wow. I don’t know how often I’d use this type of ability on others. Just saying it’s going to have to be a saint to take other’s peoples pain and suffering into themselves. It would seem to me that in a trade off of taking other people’s powers the amount of pain/suffering is reduced a bit. Not gone but the pain of a broken bone would be lessened in his own body. Just to make it so it’s not a determent to your character. Generally you’d want to use your power, once you get over hiccups, and causing yourself pain unless your character LIKES pain isn’t generally high on most people’s lists. But I digress.

How long are we talking for a “digestion” of injury? Taking the example of a broken bone it’s 6 to 12 weeks to heal that naturally. How quickly does he heal the other person? How quickly does he heal himself? How long until he can heal again? Can he heal while he’s digesting? You say he gets into overload and could pass out, what’s his structural limit for absorbing pain? In the case of say… Sasha she was chased by a spider at a size of 4” tall. A bite to a normal human wouldn’t be that bad but at that size it’s potentially fatal, could he save a victim from basically anaphalactic shock?

He's not one to like pain, however he is one of those people who feels it's worth it if it helped someone else. He doesn't have a high opinion of his own worth and especially to people he likes he would like to take their pain away. He's already ruined so just let him take it and then they can be beter.

The real reason I like this feedback is so that it keeps him in check. With the power to cure cancer and save someone with aids or worse I want there to be a really good reason for why he wouldn't go around the world trying to heal as many as he could. But it's one of those extremes that he could do at the risk of torturing himself, which could potentially lead to very interesting interactions and give him a really good reason to not shout what he can do from the rooftops. Imagine an influential person finding out he can do this? He'd be captured and forced to use his ability either by threatening him or perhaps others.

In the case of minor injuries the pain isn't that bad. really. And to answer your question, he would easily be able to save tiny Sasha and hardly even feel the feedback for it in this situation. It may be a lot of poison for her at that size, but it wouldn't be much to him or someone of regular height.

As for how long it takes him to "digest" an injury, it depends on the severity again of course. I think he can heal a broken bone in minutes, perhaps 6 to 12 minutes or so, and he would suffer the drawback of it for that same duration normally, however, as I'm writing this I think it would be nice if he had some control over this. Like say he could choose to suffer it all in a short amount making it rather painful, or spread it out over the rest of the day making it perhaps only a slight uneasy feeling. He can't spread it out more than a day though, let that be his limit, and doing that might mean he'll end up suffering more later if he has to help himself or someone else later. So he'd have a bit of room to play around with this a bit.

I think that he can save someone from apoplectic shock if he's there on time to help it. I'm sure there will ba cases where he's just too late. He does what he can but the body was weakened to such a degree that even removing the source of it's suffering wouldn't be necessarily mean it fully recovers.

Sheng

Quote from: jeflint on July 11, 2017, 06:05:43 AM
@sheng,

Would his power work on mixtures? Take oil on water for example. Putting his hand into the mixture and changing that to a more rubbery surface?

What about fire? Could he, provided he wanted to, stick his hand in and make it the next step down? Or does it have to be something he can grab?

I imagine that he might eventually be able to change mixtures, but the less pure it is the more training and energy he needs to do it. Meant like, any pure element will be easier, as it is more simple. Adding in impurities or mixing it, will make it much harder for him to change it.

And it does have to be something with an actual state. He can't make fire into a solid, or wood into a liquid. If that makes sense :)

@Vergil Tanner

Sounds good to me, anything beyond that and it'll just revert without him even being able to try and keep it up.

I imagined it to be very costly, so whether he's actually doing the crystallization or changing the state one at a time is not something I'll argue over :) If you see it as better that he does the state shift individually and procedurally grow faster at it, I think that's a very fair solution.

I imagine him needing to always touch the object for initializing the state shift, and then at a very heavy exertion he can keep it going without touch for a minuscule amount of time.
As for changing the shape, I think I might have mentioned this before, but I'll do it again gladly. I imagine that he'll be able to learn something akin to reshaping the materials as he grows, but it isn't as much reshaping as it is shifting the material in and out of liquid and solid form, so he can manipulate the liquid then let it solidify. This is of course not something he's able to do right now, but changing the shape of what he controls is something I'll imagine he'll slowly learn, but he'll have to practice it greatly, both his powers and actually learning to mold things to look somewhat decent. But like you mention yourself, I too see it as a mastery skill. Something he'll be able to start dabbling into once he's gotten much much further in his training.
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Ok, so, to make sure I have this right...he can make, for example, a part of the rock liquid...it runs down and around on its own, and he changes it back to solid? Or do you mean he can actually telepathically manipulate its shape and whatnot?

Also, would he still have to touch the rock for its State to remain liquid? Or does it have a time limit, so he changes it to liquid and he stops touching it, and it stays that way until he changes it again? Or does it stay that way for (for example) five minutes, and then goes back to Solid? Or does it go back to normal the moment he stops touching it?
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Quote from: Kujo on July 11, 2017, 06:19:52 AM
He's not one to like pain, however he is one of those people who feels it's worth it if it helped someone else. He doesn't have a high opinion of his own worth and especially to people he likes he would like to take their pain away. He's already ruined so just let him take it and then they can be beter.

The real reason I like this feedback is so that it keeps him in check. With the power to cure cancer and save someone with aids or worse I want there to be a really good reason for why he wouldn't go around the world trying to heal as many as he could. But it's one of those extremes that he could do at the risk of torturing himself, which could potentially lead to very interesting interactions and give him a really good reason to not shout what he can do from the rooftops. Imagine an influential person finding out he can do this? He'd be captured and forced to use his ability either by threatening him or perhaps others.

In the case of minor injuries the pain isn't that bad. really. And to answer your question, he would easily be able to save tiny Sasha and hardly even feel the feedback for it in this situation. It may be a lot of poison for her at that size, but it wouldn't be much to him or someone of regular height.

As for how long it takes him to "digest" an injury, it depends on the severity again of course. I think he can heal a broken bone in minutes, perhaps 6 to 12 minutes or so, and he would suffer the drawback of it for that same duration normally, however, as I'm writing this I think it would be nice if he had some control over this. Like say he could choose to suffer it all in a short amount making it rather painful, or spread it out over the rest of the day making it perhaps only a slight uneasy feeling. He can't spread it out more than a day though, let that be his limit, and doing that might mean he'll end up suffering more later if he has to help himself or someone else later. So he'd have a bit of room to play around with this a bit.

I think that he can save someone from apoplectic shock if he's there on time to help it. I'm sure there will ba cases where he's just too late. He does what he can but the body was weakened to such a degree that even removing the source of it's suffering wouldn't be necessarily mean it fully recovers.

Alright. We've talked about physical injuries and disease.

What about damage brought on by paralysis or a stroke? Would he be able to stave off a heart attack?

Does he know what he's getting into if he touches someone like "oh man this kids got a shattered bone... Let's fix that."

What about genetic defects or hertitary diseases. Technically all humans should have 12 toes and fingers if I remember my biology right. Does it go and look to cure on the genetic level?

What about she? That's a huge thing that we're treating like a disease.
                               
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Quote from: Vergil Tanner on July 11, 2017, 06:41:27 AM
@Sheng:

Ok, so, to make sure I have this right...he can make, for example, a part of the rock liquid...it runs down and around on its own, and he changes it back to solid? Or do you mean he can actually telepathically manipulate its shape and whatnot?

Also, would he still have to touch the rock for its State to remain liquid? Or does it have a time limit, so he changes it to liquid and he stops touching it, and it stays that way until he changes it again? Or does it stay that way for (for example) five minutes, and then goes back to Solid? Or does it go back to normal the moment he stops touching it?

The first one, he'll be changing slight parts at a time in the hopes of molding something. If he does play around with that. he can't like manipulate the material he shifts in other ways than what his fingers can do.

He has to actively keep of the state shift, so if he stops touching the material, it'll revert to its prior state. He will eventually be able to keep up  the shift after performing it, without touching the material,  but he's very limited in his range and ability to do that now.
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Quote from: jeflint on July 11, 2017, 06:43:13 AM
Alright. We've talked about physical injuries and disease.

What about damage brought on by paralysis or a stroke? Would he be able to stave off a heart attack?

What about genetic defects or hertitary diseases. Technically all humans should have 12 toes and fingers if I remember my biology right. Does it go and look to cure on the genetic level?

Yes he would. I would it if he can 'cure' any physical ailment or deformity given enough time and effort. I don't think he'd give people 12 toes and fingers, but he would have to ability to put them back to healthy defect free state. I know it's potentially OP, but if you guys will allow it I would even give him the ability to regenerate lost limbs or missing fingers, though I'm perfectly satisfied without that. So that's really your call to make, or Vergil's at least.

Whether he will or not is a different matter and why I like this negative feedback so much. It really keeps a powerful ability contained.

I have revised this power to remove his ability to 'inflict' wounds or pain by transferring it from one to the other. I want him to focus on healing not damaging and figured by removing that aspect I could probably make him a more potent healer. Raise his limits so to speak. But again, just because he can doesn't mean he will.

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Does he know what he's getting into if he touches someone like "oh man this kids got a shattered bone... Let's fix that."

Yes he knows exactly what he's getting into as I explain before in the revision. Let me just copy paste that again:

What else is there... oh yeah, I want Emiliano to be able to sense any physical ailments someone has when he touches them. This goes in stages with a brief touch only telling him that something is wrong or that the person is in pain. A longer touch and deeper 'probing' can reveal the source and the intensity of it to him. He can shake someone's hand for example and sense that something is wrong. He might then prolong the handshake to try and determine what it is and badly it's affecting the person. This 'screening of a patient' is something the target feels nothing off and should go completely unnoticed by them other than perhaps a frown and wonder why this guy is maintaining the handshake for so long.

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What about she? That's a huge thing that we're treating like a disease.

I don't know what you're talking about here, sorry :p

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Ok, fair enough. So, Sheng...would you mind writing up the power fully - that is, limitations, time limits, strengths, weaknesses, costs, etc etc - so I can see what we've discussed and what needs to be hammered out. If we need to specify any more details, then we do that, and if we don't...well, we move you on! :-)
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Is there a specific unit you use for like, how much energy a person has and uses?
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Quote from: Kujo on July 11, 2017, 06:57:58 AM
Yes he would. I would it if he can 'cure' any physical ailment or deformity given enough time and effort. I don't think he'd give people 12 toes and fingers, but he would have to ability to put them back to healthy defect free state. I know it's potentially OP, but if you guys will allow it I would even give him the ability to regenerate lost limbs or missing fingers, though I'm perfectly satisfied without that. So that's really your call to make, or Vergil's at least.

Whether he will or not is a different matter and why I like this negative feedback so much. It really keeps a powerful ability contained.

I have revised this power to remove his ability to 'inflict' wounds or pain by transferring it from one to the other. I want him to focus on healing not damaging and figured by removing that aspect I could probably make him a more potent healer. Raise his limits so to speak. But again, just because he can doesn't mean he will.

Yes he knows exactly what he's getting into as I explain before in the revision. Let me just copy paste that again:

What else is there... oh yeah, I want Emiliano to be able to sense any physical ailments someone has when he touches them. This goes in stages with a brief touch only telling him that something is wrong or that the person is in pain. A longer touch and deeper 'probing' can reveal the source and the intensity of it to him. He can shake someone's hand for example and sense that something is wrong. He might then prolong the handshake to try and determine what it is and badly it's affecting the person. This 'screening of a patient' is something the target feels nothing off and should go completely unnoticed by them other than perhaps a frown and wonder why this guy is maintaining the handshake for so long.

I don't know what you're talking about here, sorry :p

Stupid auto correct... Age. I meant age.

We've talked about your power but you have a new character. Have you started in the rest of the stats? You mentioned a troubled history.

As someone who has a number of problems, just ask boss about my wildly fluctuations in self worth, I want to ensure you might be ok with a broken/downtrodden/miserable character. It's not fun to be scared to start conversations or run away from the group so we need to make sure you won't isolate yourself.
                               
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Quote from: jeflint on July 11, 2017, 07:34:45 AM
Stupid auto correct... Age. I meant age.

Ah, well he cannot make anyone younger if that's what you're after, however ha can take away the little pains and sore joins and sickness old people accumulate. Unfortunately these are things that will keep coming back over and over again and there is nothing he can do about that except treat it anew everything time. Like a temporary fix.

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We've talked about your power but you have a new character. Have you started in the rest of the stats? You mentioned a troubled history.

As someone who has a number of problems, just ask boss about my wildly fluctuations in self worth, I want to ensure you might be ok with a broken/downtrodden/miserable character. It's not fun to be scared to start conversations or run away from the group so we need to make sure you won't isolate yourself.

Oh I'm right there with you Jeflint, don't worry. I think I have the knowledge and experience to play someone with low self-esteem. And yes, I have started on most other details of the character already, but that's all for the next stage right?

jeflint

Yes an no Kujo. 😊

Major history is for next part but we'd need character architype. So for instance Sasha is a vapid social butterfly with a high competitive streak. She's not a bimbo but the majority of the students are smarter than she is. She's not shallow but she's not one for deep internal introspection. She's prone to action and being in people's personal space.

How do you see your incubbi interacting with the rest of the cast? What social role do you see them falling into? What activities and hobbies do they have?
                               
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Quote from: jeflint on July 11, 2017, 07:49:02 AM
Yes an no Kujo. 😊

Major history is for next part but we'd need character architype. So for instance Sasha is a vapid social butterfly with a high competitive streak. She's not a bimbo but the majority of the students are smarter than she is. She's not shallow but she's not one for deep internal introspection. She's prone to action and being in people's personal space.

How do you see your incubbi interacting with the rest of the cast? What social role do you see them falling into? What activities and hobbies do they have?

Ah, well in that case, I'm not sure what to label is character as with one or two words, but he's an introvert in so far that he keeps his feelings and thoughts mostly inside. He is a people pleaser though, so he's always ready to interact with anyone, is kind and helpful and has is a good listener with a broad shoulder should that be required. He has some issues really expressing himself but that's mostly because he feels he will not be liked or shunted if people learned about the things he has done and the troubled home situation he's in.

He actually likes being among others and revels in their cheers and joys and laughs. Very little soothes his mind than to see happiness. He likes children and dogs for that reason as well.

In short, he craves happiness but doesn't think he deserves it.

Nygenn

Also,

*Grabs hold of Jeflint's tail and lets it slide through his fingers*

"I've been wanting to do that for a while now. It's what you get when you're continuously waggling it in front of me."

jeflint

So... Little lost puppy with healing?

Alright, I've thought on limb regrowth. When Sasha originally got to the end, she like you went through a ton of powers before becoming the hummingbird, she had lizard powers and couldn't regrow lost limbs.

Your entire ability is healing. So I'd be willing to entertain limb regrowth if it was well thought out and had a sufficient power cap but ultimately that's up to boss if we keep that line of logic.

Since he'll jump in at the end let's work on that line of logic.

How long does it take to regrow? Is it a one time treatment or does he have to do multiple times? If it's multiple times how often does he have to treat? What kind of pain are we talking about? How long does that take to digest? Is it as complicated for all or is a toe or finger easier?
                               
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Quote from: Kujo on July 11, 2017, 08:01:19 AM
Also,

*Grabs hold of Jeflint's tail and lets it slide through his fingers*

"I've been wanting to do that for a while now. It's what you get when you're continuously waggling it in front of me."

**Perks her large ears forward and gives a playful growl** You don't want to be licked to death! A FennMink tongue is rough and sutble!
                               
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Quote from: Kujo on July 11, 2017, 06:19:52 AM
He's not one to like pain, however he is one of those people who feels it's worth it if it helped someone else. He doesn't have a high opinion of his own worth and especially to people he likes he would like to take their pain away. He's already ruined so just let him take it and then they can be beter.

The real reason I like this feedback is so that it keeps him in check. With the power to cure cancer and save someone with aids or worse I want there to be a really good reason for why he wouldn't go around the world trying to heal as many as he could. But it's one of those extremes that he could do at the risk of torturing himself, which could potentially lead to very interesting interactions and give him a really good reason to not shout what he can do from the rooftops. Imagine an influential person finding out he can do this? He'd be captured and forced to use his ability either by threatening him or perhaps others.

Excellent point. So he has to be very careful on who he heals and plan how much healing he can do over a span of time to ensure he doesn't overwhelm himself, yes? So how would he keep track of this later on? A little memo book perhaps?

Quote from: Kujo on July 11, 2017, 06:19:52 AM
In the case of minor injuries the pain isn't that bad. really. And to answer your question, he would easily be able to save tiny Sasha and hardly even feel the feedback for it in this situation. It may be a lot of poison for her at that size, but it wouldn't be much to him or someone of regular height.

Again, acceptable.

Quote from: Kujo on July 11, 2017, 06:19:52 AM
As for how long it takes him to "digest" an injury, it depends on the severity again of course. I think he can heal a broken bone in minutes, perhaps 6 to 12 minutes or so, and he would suffer the drawback of it for that same duration normally, however, as I'm writing this I think it would be nice if he had some control over this. Like say he could choose to suffer it all in a short amount making it rather painful, or spread it out over the rest of the day making it perhaps only a slight uneasy feeling. He can't spread it out more than a day though, let that be his limit, and doing that might mean he'll end up suffering more later if he has to help himself or someone else later. So he'd have a bit of room to play around with this a bit.

Eeehhh 6-12 minutes is awfully quick for something that normally takes MONTHS to heal. Perhaps at full power, we can let this pass, but for Day One, it has to be majorly watered down. Perhaps 30 minutes to an hour for beginner level?

Quote from: Kujo on July 11, 2017, 06:19:52 AM
I think that he can save someone from apoplectic shock if he's there on time to help it. I'm sure there will ba cases where he's just too late. He does what he can but the body was weakened to such a degree that even removing the source of it's suffering wouldn't be necessarily mean it fully recovers.

Acceptable.

Now, let's jump back to your previous post, which I found a problem with.

Quote from: Kujo on July 11, 2017, 06:57:58 AM
Yes he would. I would it if he can 'cure' any physical ailment or deformity given enough time and effort. I don't think he'd give people 12 toes and fingers, but he would have to ability to put them back to healthy defect free state. I know it's potentially OP, but if you guys will allow it I would even give him the ability to regenerate lost limbs or missing fingers, though I'm perfectly satisfied without that. So that's really your call to make, or Vergil's at least.

I really think this is a bit too much for his power, and is crossing into an entirely different border. This is regeneration, or a reset power, not healing. You're basically saying Emiliano would be able to rid someone completely of their scars, stimulate dead tissue to come back to life and completely regenerate a limb again - when you've specifically mentioned before that he can't revive dead tissue - and potentially making an EXTRA limb just shrivel up and pop off. I mean, I have to stop you in your tracks right here, because technically scars deformities are healed tissue that does not NEED any more assistance. From what I understand, Emiliano can only take away injuries and poisons and HEAL when such ailments are still causing harm to the patient's body. I will allow him to be able to heal severed limbs by sealing them up into a scar but I will NOT let him REGROW the damn thing. This is an entirely different ability and a hard NO.

Please consider that the more you add onto the powers - as opposed to detailing the things you already have - the longer this process will be.
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Quote from: jeflint on July 11, 2017, 08:04:49 AM
So... Little lost puppy with healing?

Alright, I've thought on limb regrowth. When Sasha originally got to the end, she like you went through a ton of powers before becoming the hummingbird, she had lizard powers and couldn't regrow lost limbs.

Your entire ability is healing. So I'd be willing to entertain limb regrowth if it was well thought out and had a sufficient power cap but ultimately that's up to boss if we keep that line of logic.

Since he'll jump in at the end let's work on that line of logic.

How long does it take to regrow? Is it a one time treatment or does he have to do multiple times? If it's multiple times how often does he have to treat? What kind of pain are we talking about? How long does that take to digest? Is it as complicated for all or is a toe or finger easier?

IF he can regenerate limbs, and this would then be something for further down the line when his power is more developed, I imagine that the process of regrowing a single digit or an entire arm would be the same except it would take much longer in the case of the latter. Regrowing something small may take an hour perhaps, while regrowing an entire arms will likely take several multi hour sessions. In both cases the feedback for doing this will be very severe for Emiliano and he will either be in pain and incapacitated for for of the day or actually suffer that skin flaying burning sensation mentioned earlier for an hour or so. After which I'm sure he will want to just curl up and sleep anyway. If he plans to regrow someone's arm I think we're looking at a session of several hours, followed by him suffering intensely for a few more. Then he rests and recovers his strength onto to repeat it again the next day and for as many days as it takes to regenerate a lost limb. I think an entire arm or leg will take around a weak at least.

For the patient this would mean the stump is gradually extending and growing thicker and stronger with each session.