We Could Be Heroes; A Sexy Superhero RP 2nd Arc Recruitment! MALES NEEDED!

[PentheWonderful]

Playing Pathfinder is fine.  The question then is, you are asking for me to create mechanics for a system.  You asked how much ice can be made, which is requesting that I give mass/size/so on.  The guidelines have been "You are new".  I got that, but that's been about it. 

Let's start simple... we'll say can create an a mass of ice about the size of a football.



I'm not asking you to make my character.  I provided the character concept and idea.  As a player, I asked you, the storyteller, for the mechanics for your game.  I've explained weaknesses and limitations.  As it is not a systems based game, but it is your game, there are guidelines.

Well, the limitations we go for are not Avengers of Justice League level powers. Think Daredevil or the characters from Agents of SHIELD. Just enhanced super human abilities, but... Not god-level, y'know? The characters still need to rely on their own individual smarts and physical skills to survive in a superhuman encounter.

[ThatFantasticBard]

Ok, so, starting off...having him have to maintain skin contact for half an hour is ridiculous Even if we say that he can take small breaks from the contact, that is a little bit...unusable. I'm perfectly fine having it happen in a shorter time span, BUT if he lets go, the timer resets. Like how Rogue works, though toned down in strength and potency. So...how about, at the start, he has to hold onto them for a minute. At the beginning, he doesn't get their power; he just makes their power weaker, the longer he holds on. One minute reduces it by 10%, two by 20%, 3 by 30% etc etc, but that increases in potency as it goes along. The touch can never go below 50%, but for every minute past 50% he holds on, he gets an extra 5% of their power level. Not huge at the start, but as the game goes along, the efficiency increases. So at Peak Power, it's gone from 10% drain every minute to 10% drain every ten seconds. That would both prevent him from being a "Oh, I touched you, now you're powerless" but would also give him some functionality in an actual battle with a Superpowered individual.

What effect does his touch have on somebody who doesn't have Powers?

Huehue, that sounds much better. I guess I was just kinda scared of making it a bit too easy to drain someone, I'm honestly terrible with figuring out how to balance things. Also, I'm a little confused on what you meant when you said "The touch can never go below 50%". Does that mean it won't take any real effect until 50%? Or did you mean to say 'above'?

For a regular human, it'd just drain them physically in the same way it drains a superpowered person's powers. So they'd be more feeble and fatigued while the absorption results in him being stronger and more energetic. The more physically fit a person is, the better.

[Vergil Tanner]

Playing Pathfinder is fine.  The question then is, you are asking for me to create mechanics for a system.  You asked how much ice can be made, which is requesting that I give mass/size/so on.  The guidelines have been "You are new".  I got that, but that's been about it. 

Let's start simple... we'll say can create an a mass of ice about the size of a football.

I'm not asking you to make my character.  I provided the character concept and idea.  As a player, I asked you, the storyteller, for the mechanics for your game.  I've explained weaknesses and limitations.  As it is not a systems based game, but it is your game, there are guidelines. 

This is freeform, which means that the guidelines are on a case by case basis, since not every power functions the same way. My questions earlier were designed to guide you into creating your own limitations and capabilities. The guidelines are really very simple, and were provided in the opening post.

- This is a Day One Game, so you need to have a low level starting point that then develops into Peak Capability.
- This is a street level game, so more along the lines of Jessica Jones and Daredevil than Superman and Captain Marvel.
- The powers need to have hard limitations and drawbacks.

That is the extent of the guidelines, since without a System, it is hard to quantify what kind of limits we are talking about. Generally speaking, they need to manifest in one specific way in which your character specialises, and if you wish to generalise, then your powers take a hit in terms of power in exchange for versatility.

The entire point of me asking those questions earlier was to get you thinking about how these powers might be confined, and to develop a "System" in which your powers work. If you need further examples, the link to the currently active character bios is in the original post.

Huehue, that sounds much better. I guess I was just kinda scared of making it a bit too easy to drain someone, I'm honestly terrible with figuring out how to balance things. Also, I'm a little confused on what you meant when you said "The touch can never go below 50%". Does that mean it won't take any real effect until 50%? Or did you mean to say 'above'?

For a regular human, it'd just drain them physically in the same way it drains a superpowered person's powers. So they'd be more feeble and fatigued while the absorption results in him being stronger and more energetic. The more physically fit a person is, the better.

Ok, what I mean by "never go past 50%" is, "It can never reduce a persons powers efficiency by more than 50%." So, it can never completely remove their abilities, only reduce it to half effectiveness.
And hey, it's always better to go in low and scale up than to pitch a God! I appreciate your hesitancy, since Draining Touch can be very OP. But remember, if you can't functionally USE it, it's no longer really a power, is it?

Hmmm...ok, I can see that. BUT. It ONLY drains a superpowered persons powers, and drains a persons stamina and energy. So it doesn't take away their strength or speed necessarily, just the energy that they would use to apply their strength and speed...if that makes sense? And the same rules apply; maximum of 50% either way, with the same draining rates?

[Lyku]

Alright.  I think that gave me the guidelines I was looking for.  I didn't mean to come off as difficult and reviewed some of the approved sheets for clarification.  Give me a bit and I will flesh out the powers more.

[Vergil Tanner]

That's no problem! I look forward to seeing what you come up with!

[ThatFantasticBard]

Ok, what I mean by "never go past 50%" is, "It can never reduce a persons powers efficiency by more than 50%." So, it can never completely remove their abilities, only reduce it to half effectiveness.
And hey, it's always better to go in low and scale up than to pitch a God! I appreciate your hesitancy, since Draining Touch can be very OP. But remember, if you can't functionally USE it, it's no longer really a power, is it?

Hmmm...ok, I can see that. BUT. It ONLY drains a superpowered persons powers, and drains a persons stamina and energy. So it doesn't take away their strength or speed necessarily, just the energy that they would use to apply their strength and speed...if that makes sense? And the same rules apply; maximum of 50% either way, with the same draining rates?

So, just to make sure I got everything straight, for superhumans it just drains their powers and for regular humans it drains their energy/stamina, but takes him five minutes starting off to fully drain 50% of someone's power.  After that, he starts to gain their powers in increments of 5% for every additional minute. I assume the absorption caps out at 50% as well? And did we agree he keeps the power for an hour or a few minutes?
By the way, I was planning on this character being a trap/crossdresser, so that's fine, right? If not, I'm okay with them being a regular ol' guy.

[Vergil Tanner]

That's about right, yhup! As for how long he keeps it...let's say a minute of draining starts off as equalling 30 seconds of power (so five minutes gives him 2 1/2 minutes) and at Peak Power...a minute of draining gives him five minutes of power? So, once he hits that 50%, if he drains them for a minute, he gets 30 seconds of their power. And that scales up, obviously. Don't forget, at peak power, the time it takes him to drain them decreases to - at maximum strength - ten seconds rather than in increments of minutes.

So, as for how long they suffer the effects...shall we say...for every minute they've been drained, total, they suffer a minute of power decreasing and fatigue, but at Max Strength...it goes up to Five minutes? Does that sound fair to you?


And LOL. Trust me, that's fine. I like to play Traps as well sometimes, so no issues here. If he's a cute trap, Grace would probably be all over him.

[ThatFantasticBard]

That's about right, yhup! As for how long he keeps it...let's say a minute of draining starts off as equalling 30 seconds of power (so five minutes gives him 2 1/2 minutes) and at Peak Power...a minute of draining gives him five minutes of power? So, once he hits that 50%, if he drains them for a minute, he gets 30 seconds of their power. And that scales up, obviously. Don't forget, at peak power, the time it takes him to drain them decreases to - at maximum strength - ten seconds rather than in increments of minutes.

So, as for how long they suffer the effects...shall we say...for every minute they've been drained, total, they suffer a minute of power decreasing and fatigue, but at Max Strength...it goes up to Five minutes? Does that sound fair to you?


And LOL. Trust me, that's fine. I like to play Traps as well sometimes, so no issues here. If he's a cute trap, Grace would probably be all over him.

That sounds good to me! I'm guessing he'll be more of a support character in a fight than anything else seeing as, at maximum drain, it'd just put him on par with whoever he's affected.

[Lyku]

POWER THEME:
His power is Cryokinesis.  He is able to freeze the water particles that he makes contact with and is able to form ice.  Just with the air around him, he can make enough ice about the size of a football.  With his sports experience, he can throw the frozen ice like a football or baseball, whichever is more convenient at the time.  He can also manipulate this around his hands, giving them a coat of ice to make them harder.  Most of his power is internalized, so he can stand colder temperatures comfortably.
This power is affected by the humidity and the temperature.  He has harder times to manipulate in the hotter temperatures or areas with little humidity. 
Over time, he might be able to cover his body with that ice.  With enough training, he could either push out the cold within him, making it cold to be near him to the point of frostbite, or to absorb the cold, allowing others to endure colder environments.

Miscellaneous:
- He plays both football and rugby at the school, but also enjoys hockey and baseball.
- He has been boxing since he was younger, as his grandfather emphasized that that is a gentlemen’s sport.
- He has a strong respect for his elders.
- He is not educationally gifted.  His grades are passing, but are in the C range.  He is at the school for a scholarship for football and rugby currently, with added pressure for hockey in the winter and baseball in the spring.
- He has nightmares still from his car crash with his parents, so he does still have times where he has fits of insomnia, so he is an avid coffee drinker, though he will only drink it cold and black.

Character Flaw:
-   While he tries to stay level headed, he can get agitated, which results in him becoming reckless.  In fights when taunted, he will sacrifice and defensive approach for something more aggressive and offensive.
-   While he does try to do well in school, as it is something his grandmother lectures on him, it is not something that is easy for him.  However, with his grandfather’s hardheadedness, it was ingrained into him that always asking for help is a sign of weakness, so he often would rather suffer through an assignment and half understand it than ask for help.
-   He can come off as crude, which has hurt any long term relationships.  For this reason, he finds himself in more short term things than anything else.

[Vergil Tanner]

That sounds good to me! I'm guessing he'll be more of a support character in a fight than anything else seeing as, at maximum drain, it'd just put him on par with whoever he's affected.

Well, that's if he holds on long enough Remember, he gains their power at half the speed he drained them!

So! Any questions?


Lyku

Ok, so! That gives us some more to work with! However, I do need to repeat the questions from earlier; how fast can he freeze water? What's the range he can draw moisture from the air from? How quickly does he create these structures of ice (like, how fast does he make the ice from the moisture around him?) How much energy does freezing this moisture take him, and how big can he make these structures at any one time? Etc etc. Basically, what are the limits on size, speed and range?

[ThatFantasticBard]

Well, that's if he holds on long enough Remember, he gains their power at half the speed he drained them!

So! Any questions?

Nope, I think I'm good!

[Vergil Tanner]

Ok then! I have to go to bed, so I will hand off to Flint and Pen. They know what I want, and they'll guide you, Bard, through the next steps

[Lyku]

We'll for with the 1 foot cubed per 6 seconds that you had mentioned.  For the air moisture, he needs to draw it from less than a foot from him, possibly a short distance.  He can mold the ice if makes contact with it, but it can take time due to the need to make contact.  The ice is not magical though, so it doesn't melt immediately after contact is lost, however with enough time he could make something bigger, but constant use does begin to take a toll on him, exhausting him.

[Mac84]

**Gasps and nuzzles and hugs** Mac!

(Squee) *Gives big ole bear hug, and nuzzles back* Yay! All the cuddles!

Mac! Can't believe I'm seeing you here!

Welcome! Don't think we have any non-supers here yet, so let's wait for Vergil to decide how this works.

However, I will say that we usually prefer actual models over illustrations or cartoons for FCs.

 

@Mac84

Since this is a game revolving around people with powers, then yeah, Powers are kind of required He would have to be a Senior, and Pen is correct, we need a Model rather than an Anime character or a drawing. Most powers, so long as they are sufficiently hashed out, are acceptable.

Okay, that is cool.

[jeflint]

Been super busy today, reporting for end of quarter, but I promise to catch up and ask questions in a couple of hours.

Promise!

[Mac84]

As for his power, I was thinking that whenever Ben comes into contact with a mechanical device he instantly understands how the device works, What's wrong, and how to fix it. The limitation would have been only Mechanical devices. So he would be like a normal human Being with stuff like electrical work, and wiring.

However, I was told that Was close to another person's power. So... Back to the drawing board.

[jeflint]

Ok... Quick like a bunny. 😜

@lyku - what sort of energy commitment are we looking at? Is there a maximum cubic weight he can impact? What about the internal parts of a human? Is it only water or can he do this to beer and soda or blood or lava, with enough mositure obviously.

@Mac that power would probably work. Arek is a hyper inventor doesn't mean he can fix everything just he can make amazing gadgets. The problem comes in with his knowing how it works and can fix it. If that's deemed to close to Arek power set we might have to rethink this.

But let's go with it for a little bit to flesh out the thoughts. does it apply to complex electrical equipment? How about ancient tech that's largely unknown how it works today, I recall a Greek battery or something that was unknown how it was made for years, and how long does it take to repair? Normal time? Double time? Can he make improvements to make it better? Does he get a blue print in his head?

Did I forget anyone?

[Lyku]

....

...Elaborate on energy containment.

It's slowly freezing things that move.  It requires time.  You can freeze something and it will stay frozen after I stop touching it, though it can melt.  So is their a maximum, dependent on stamina and availability.

From what I got from previous comments, saying yes to any of those, it would be deemed too powerful and with nothing to compare it with, it's guessing in the dark. 

I'm beginning to think cryokinetics was a bad choice.

[jeflint]

Not necessarily. Sasha went through like probably 30 powers before she became the wasp.

The big thing is fine tuning.

For instance TokyoRose is a Pryokentisis so he's the opposite side of the spectrum.

And I may have missed something while I was skimming.

So... Only H2O and only while touching that. So what sorta energy expenditure do you foresee?

Sasha and Nikki consume a ton of calories for their powers and Sasha actually gets trapped in a Shrunken state if she hasn't sufficient calories. So don't worry overly. We're trying to get everything fine tuned to get you in the game. 😊

[Vergil Tanner]

@Lyku:

I believe what Flint is getting at is, how much energy does it take for him to change the matters state? How much personal stamina and moisture does he expend to achieve this result?
Also, what's the biggest object he can create currently?


@Mac84:

Ummm...you are right, that power can be a little too close to Arek's ability. It's not an instant no, you just have to differentiate it properly from Areks ability. So how do you see this ability functioning, and how is it different to what Arek can do?

[Jason Hunter]

Hey Vergil. Are you still looking for some male characters? I have never done a superhero type role before but I can put together a male character sheet :)

[Vergil Tanner]

We're always looking for new characters! Feel free!

[Ironwolf85]

what's the story and roster look like?

[jeflint]

Hello Iron!

Basically the story we have is that 3 days ago mysterious earthquakes rocked the New York state and now weird things are happening in the game. Pyro's, clones, shrinking, mad scientists, prophecies.

Our cast consists of 1 T.A. and a group of students. The amount of men is lower so you'll have plenty of girls to scoop up. 😊

Do you have any specific questions I can help with.

[Ironwolf85]

cool jeflint! 

I was thinking of a hellboy style hero. Large supernatural biker and metalhead.