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Offline VekseidTopic starter

Justice Department to phase out private prisons
« on: August 18, 2016, 11:28:50 AM »
Washington Post Article.

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The Justice Department plans to end its use of private prisons after officials concluded the facilities are both less safe and less effective at providing correctional services than those run by the government.

Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates announced the decision on Thursday in a memo that instructs officials to either decline to renew the contracts for private prison operators when they expire or “substantially reduce” the contracts’ scope. The goal, Yates wrote, is “reducing — and ultimately ending — our use of privately operated prisons.”

“They simply do not provide the same level of correctional services, programs, and resources; they do not save substantially on costs; and as noted in a recent report by the Department’s Office of Inspector General, they do not maintain the same level of safety and security,” Yates wrote.

A small bright bit of news for this country, for once.

Offline Soveliss

Re: Justice Department to phase out private prisons
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2016, 12:21:32 PM »
Now hopefully they will get some people who only committed nonviolent offenses, or worse, victimless crimes, out of prisons where they don't belong (prisons that, I might add, turns non violent people into hardened criminals. Wether because they have to become ruthless to survive the environment where they are put with dangerous hardened criminals or because they are forced into crime because no one will hire ex prisoners, even those in jail for minor offenses, is up for debate), and maybe get them alternate punishment. I'm sure if you force people who have committed nonviolent offenses to, say, do janitorial duty for Gov't buildings or other things we might call "work-release", not only would it be more humane but we wouldn't have as many nonviolent criminals turning into dangerous felons.

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Re: Justice Department to phase out private prisons
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2016, 12:48:51 PM »
Whoo Go Justice department!  ^_^

Offline Blythe

Re: Justice Department to phase out private prisons
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2016, 07:17:54 PM »
Pretty excited about this. Private prisons are generally not as good as BOP ones, and I've always been really bothered by the whole 'for-profit' thing.

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It is possible the directive could face resistance from those companies that will be affected.

I wonder what sort of resistance they could put up?

Offline TheGlyphstone

Re: Justice Department to phase out private prisons
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2016, 10:39:19 PM »
Throwing money at the congresspeople they own to block the JD from doing it somehow?

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Re: Justice Department to phase out private prisons
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2016, 04:10:16 AM »
YOU HAVE PRIVATE PRISONS?!?!?!

What the everloving fuck...

Offline consortium11

Re: Justice Department to phase out private prisons
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2016, 06:09:02 AM »
YOU HAVE PRIVATE PRISONS?!?!?!

What the everloving fuck...

The UK does as well; there are 14 privately run prisons which house about 15% of our inmate population.

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Re: Justice Department to phase out private prisons
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2016, 07:37:55 AM »
Really? Wow. That's incredible. Labour's brilliant idea I assume? Off to Google. Curse you for telling me though, now I can't feel superior.

Edit: Do you know, now I'm reading it I think I knew Doncatraz was privately run.
« Last Edit: August 19, 2016, 07:41:47 AM by Kythia »

Offline consortium11

Re: Justice Department to phase out private prisons
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2016, 10:39:07 AM »
Really? Wow. That's incredible. Labour's brilliant idea I assume? Off to Google. Curse you for telling me though, now I can't feel superior.

Edit: Do you know, now I'm reading it I think I knew Doncatraz was privately run.

Tory actually; the first ones appeared in 1992 under John Major with the first real move to put them in place coming in 1986. Originally it was intended that all new prisons should be privately built and operated and by the time Labour came in there were four of them.

Labour being Labour they vehemently opposed private prisons when in opposition but within a week of coming into power had done a complete u-turn... seven more were opened under them (mainly through PFI funding) with the rest coming under either the coalition or the current Conservative government.

And I should note this is only discussing actual prisons; many of the youth offender institutions and detention centres for immigration which are de-facto prisons are also privately run.

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Re: Justice Department to phase out private prisons
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2016, 10:57:11 AM »
I volunteer in a privately run immigrant detention centre.  I'm not certain "de facto prison" is 100% accurate but I take your point.

I had assumed it was Labour's PFI boner that did it (hence the comment) good to see I was half right.

Offline Renegade Vile

Re: Justice Department to phase out private prisons
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2016, 03:13:10 PM »
I didn't even know private prisons were a thing. I should look up if that's the case over here too as that just brings a whole slew of problems along with it, such as the "for profit" issue lady Lustful Bride brought up.

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Re: Justice Department to phase out private prisons
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Offline Renegade Vile

Re: Justice Department to phase out private prisons
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2016, 04:29:10 PM »
Looks like it might well be

*sighs* Wonderful... But the government certainly has plenty of money to spend on a monarchy that does nothing, a Belgian government that's pointless and politicians whose very stressful job of sitting in committees and stroking their law degrees requires them to take about three to four expensive holidays a year.

Offline Missy

Re: Justice Department to phase out private prisons
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2016, 08:04:56 PM »
gee, being a politician sounds nice.

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Re: Justice Department to phase out private prisons
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2016, 08:43:56 PM »
gee, being a politician sounds nice.

Yeah but being an elected official means you cant even wipe your rear without making an expensive committee for it first :P

Offline TheGlyphstone

Re: Justice Department to phase out private prisons
« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2016, 08:45:12 PM »
Yeah but being an elected official means you cant even wipe your rear without making an expensive committee for it first :P

At least in Belgium, it sounds like you can put yourself on that committee though, and get paid for deciding whether you can wipe your rear or not.

Offline RedRose

Re: Justice Department to phase out private prisons
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2016, 03:00:34 PM »
The very concept of a private prison... Scary. As if public ones aren't corrupt enough. But again, at least, private ones have enough funds I guess...

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Re: Justice Department to phase out private prisons
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2016, 03:12:53 PM »
But again, at least, private ones have enough funds I guess...
Yup. Funds coming out of the taxpayer's pocket in this case.

Isn't it lovely to pay taxes to fund people who will fund other people to do something, instead of funding the first set of people to do the same thing?

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Re: Justice Department to phase out private prisons
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2016, 03:38:40 PM »
There's even a prison tv network over yonder, aiming to edify the imprisoned men and women. I think that one's private-run too.  :P