The Palestinians did not drive over 700,000 people from their homes in 1948, Israel did. The Palestinians did not start the 1967 war, Israel did.
Now that's not your first lie in this thread, but it is the boldest one. Israel did not instigate the Six Days War, it stared when Egypt mobilized its units in utter defiance of the cease fire that took place at the time, which any other country would consider an act of war. Israel started a preemptive attack, sure, because all three countries- Egypt, Syria and Jordan were readying their air forces, which outnumbered the Israeli airforce and would have lead to a devastating blow if they were allowed to attack first. So you'd say that Israel should have just waited for an entire army of planes to destroy it? Suddenly being strategically savvy is a war crime?
The Palestinians did not settle hundreds of thousands of people in occupied land in defiance of the United Nations and Geneva conventions, Israel did.
You seem to be turning a particularly selective blind eye to the strategical locations of said settlements, almost all of them were settled in ventages where they served as Israel's first line of defense against a population that proved to have every intent to murder civilians with every weapon and chance they get. It's in their Charter:
Commando action constitutes the nucleus of the Palestinian popular liberation war. This requires its escalation, comprehensiveness, and the mobilization of all the Palestinian popular and educational efforts and their organization and involvement in the armed Palestinian revolution. It also requires the achieving of unity for the national (watani) struggle among the different groupings of the Palestinian people, and between the Palestinian people and the Arab masses, so as to secure the continuation of the revolution, its escalation, and victory."
Commando actions, only the commando warriors are civilians, not soldiers, if I'm not mistaken, there's a word for that, it's terror. Although you might call it "Legal Resistance"
The Palestinians have not refused people the right to come home to their lands, the Israeli's did.
That's weird, after 48 almost a million Jews were banished or chased out of the various Arab countries, yet not one of them ever considered themselves refugees or even tried to pass that title to their children, like the Palestinians stubbornly do, and are encouraged to do in the same PLO charter:
The Palestinian identity is a genuine, essential, and inherent characteristic; it is transmitted from parents to children. The Zionist occupation and the dispersal of the Palestinian Arab people, through the disasters which befell them, do not make them lose their Palestinian identity and their membership in the Palestinian community, nor do they negate them.Article 5:
The Palestinians are those Arab nationals who, until 1947, normally resided in Palestine regardless of whether they were evicted from it or have stayed there. Anyone born, after that date, of a Palestinian father - whether inside Palestine or outside it - is also a Palestinian."
So you mean to say that every child a Palestinian has, every grandson, every cousin and every next generation family member is automatically a Palestinian with the birthright to inherit the land? That's pretty convenient, not to mention exclusive, as NO OTHER NATIONALITY IN THE WORLD makes such claims.
The Palestinians do not shoot demonstrators,
Israel has never done that, that's a blatant lie.
Terror needs to have consequences, since the Hamas is recruiting civilians and refuses to recognize them as soldiers, it's forcing Israel to act against the terrorists themselves. How else would you deter other civilians from joining the organization and going out there to murder innocent men, women and children?
They do invade mosques, but not only that, they invade synagogues, schools and kibbutzes.
Of course they don't assassinate, they slaughter, they jump on women and children in the streets and butcher them with knives, while the innocent bystanders, the palestinian shop keepers and street goers, stand at the sidelines and laugh, it has been documented, it has been proved, happened a year ago.
Support settler's who break laws and murder, and destroy entire neighborhoods, Israel does.
Settlers that have been prosecuted and punished, while rocks, Molotov and firework throwers on the other side were treated as heroes. But please, don't let the facts stand in your way.
Yes, the Palestinians have brought this all on themselves. Please tell me how?? Through legal resistance?
I'll tell you how, by encouraging terror, by voting for a terrorist organization, by treating dead terrorists as Shahids (saints), by glorifying armed (legal? seriously?) resistance.
Let's look back to the PLO charter for reference:
Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine. This it is the overall strategy, not merely a tactical phase. The Palestinian Arab people assert their absolute determination and firm resolution to continue their armed struggle and to work for an armed popular revolution for the liberation of their country and their return to it . They also assert their right to normal life in Palestine and to exercise their right to self-determination and sovereignty over it."
The Palestinians only want the West Bank, Gaza, parts of East Jerusalem, and the right for some refugees to be able to return to their homes. It is basically what they had before 1967. Israel refuses to give the land back. They actually should demand a return to 1948, the legal borders of the state of Israel as set by the UN.
You seem to be, yet again, harshly misinformed, or just selectively forgetful.
Here is what they actually demand, yet again, from the PLO charter:
Palestine, with the boundaries it had during the British Mandate, is an indivisible territorial unit.Article 20:
The Balfour Declaration, the Mandate for Palestine, and everything that has been based upon them, are deemed null and void. Claims of historical or religious ties of Jews with Palestine are incompatible with the facts of history and the true conception of what constitutes statehood. Judaism, being a religion, is not an independent nationality. Nor do Jews constitute a single nation with an identity of its own; they are citizens of the states to which they belong.Article 21:
The Arab Palestinian people, expressing themselves by the armed Palestinian revolution, reject all solutions which are substitutes for the total liberation of Palestine and reject all proposals aiming at the liquidation of the Palestinian problem, or its internationalization."
Not only do they demand to return to the pre-48 borders, they completely deny any sort of a co-existence with a jewish country and refuse to acknowledge not only the right of the jewish people to have a land in Israel, but also completely dismiss the Jewish people's right to consider themselves a nationality, rather as a religion of drifters that are to be scattered around the globe and assimilate into other countries as their citizens.
Hamas and Hezbollah do not represent the Palestinians,
They voted for Hamas, in that so-called "democratic" elections, so suddenly they don't represent them? Why do you deny the Palestinians from their right to be represented by their own elected leadership?
How is it that Jews and Palestinians lived in relative harmony for a thousand years before the creations of the State of Israel?
Sure, relative harmony, unless you consider dozens of bloody massacres during the British mandate, for lands that were not conquered by the Jews, but legally and peacefully bought from their Arabian landlords. The British Mandate was before the creation of the state of Israel, unless I'm mistaken. (Sources at the bottom about the Palestinian aggressions)
Resistance is the right of all Palestinians since Israel has occupied their territory. Did the French have the right to resist Nazi's in WWII? Of course they did. Do the Palestinians have the right to resist the Israeli occupation of their lands. Of course they do.
Here we go, finally comparing Israel to Nazi Germany, I was wondering when that was going to happen. I'm not even going to grace that with a response, just wanted to make a note.
Well, anyway, to answer your question: yes, everyone is entitled to resistance, but NO, not when it comes to murdering innocent civilians- that is men, women and children by blowing up buses, cafe's, night clubs, invading kibbutzes and settlements and slitting people's throats in the middle of the night, throwing rocks at cars and shooting at them with automatic weapons. If that's your idea of legal resistance, I don't know what to tell you. Again, all of those acts of violence are encouraged by the PLO charter.
Palestinians would be much better off if they were on the border of a first world nation. After WWII Germany was rebuilt, Japan was rebuilt, colonial enterprises have for the most part been long gone. Israel still holds on to land that they took through conquest in recent times. A first world country would have made peace with Palestinians long ago. It is Israeli intransigence that has kept the pot boiling all these years.
I don't know any country that would tolerate such constant and unrelenting attacks against its citizens and cities- rockets, terror attacks, the brainwashing on young children to go out there and stab civilians on the street. Not USA, not the UK and definitely not Germany would EVER put up with that, and if you think otherwise, please consider what happened every single time ANY US citizen or even soldier were taken by any foreign organization or nation. Compared to methods employed there (like raising a whole battalion of assault helicopters), Israel has been restrained with its reactions.
In conclusion, I feel like you've been deeply and severely misinformed, either by reading the wrong website or just nitpicking your sources, you seem to pick the most biased ones and then present them in a semi-balanced tone, which is a misleading technique in an almost criminal degree.
Not only that, I feel like you seem to deny the Palestinian people of their clearly stated goals and antics, sometimes in direct contrast to what they have been publicly announcing for decades. You say you have a balanced view point of the whole conflict, but then you completely deny any merits that the Israeli people have to their side while denying ALL responsibility that the Palestinian people has for their mistakes and, yes, crimes. Terror is a crime, Elone, no matter how neatly you'd like to dress it as "legitimate resistance".
It seems to me that you'd like to treat the Palestinian as kids, as if they're not responsible for electing a terrorist organization, they're not responsible for raising their children to idolize terrorists, as if they're not responsible for actions that are firmly encouraged by their national charter, the sort of "Forgive them, father, they know not what they are doing."
You are treating them like they aren't entitled to their own political views (just because these don't suit your views), their own mentality (just because that doesn't fit the whole victimization theory) and the responsibility for their mistakes and faults, from which you'd like to absolve them by acting like they are children that are completely susceptible to outside influence, without the basic capability for critical thinking and moral compass.
We have a term for that sort of mentality, it's called racism.
To me it seems like you've made up your mind a long time ago, and ever since you've only accepted facts, rumors and lies that support your predetermined opinions. That's too bad, I'd like to extand you the same offer again; come to Israel, or Palestine, or whatever you want to call it. See the land, talk to the people, all of the people, put some faces on the figures and statistics and judge for yourself.
Videos and news reports can be so easily manipulated, man, you need to come here and see how it is with your own eyes. I'll gladly show you around (The Israeli side, as it would be really dangerous for me to go on the Palestinian side. Literally a death sentence).
Sources:The PLO Charter (Yale Legal)
Examples for Pre-Israel Arab-Jewish conflicts:1929