In your honest opinion, who do you think has the best chance of becoming POTUS?

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Trigon

I bet its going to come down to my generation (i.e. the Millennials) not voting. 

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Can Americans do anything if they end up not liking the president they elected? Or are we fucked for the next 4 years?
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Isn't there still some lawsuit out against him?  Could be the fastest impeachment in history...
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Quote from: Oniya on November 08, 2016, 11:53:59 PM
Isn't there still some lawsuit out against him?  Could be the fastest impeachment in history...

2 actually. Both of which have trials starting in the next two months.

Trigon

There is the possibility of impeachment, but that's very difficult to pull off, even if he is universally hated.

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Impeachment and removal, like assassination, probably won't happen.  Because then PENCE.

Tamhansen

Quote from: persephone325 on November 08, 2016, 11:53:02 PM
Can Americans do anything if they end up not liking the president they elected? Or are we fucked for the next 4 years?

Vote full democrat in the 2018 midterms would limit trump's power, but doubt that will happen.

Sorry to say there is very little to do about the president. Even if trump were succesfully convicted for sex offence, Mike Pence is just as bad.
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Guancyto

Pence is terrible, but like Cruz, the establishment feels he's a devil they can control.

I wouldn't rule out Trump having a shorter regime than William Henry Harrison, just... well, mostly rule it out.

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Trigon

Well, if Brexit is any guide, then the Democratic party will probably undergo a revolution and be pushed even further to the left (As Corbyn did under the Labour Party). Much further to the left I should say.

And remember that Obama 8 years ago started with a super-majority too, so not all is lost. But... there will certainly need to be a long discussion over what to do.

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Nachtmahr

We will just have to sit back and see what the future brings. I'm glad that I am not living in the USA right now, and thanks to this I likely never will. Trust is easy to loose and hard to gain, and a voting majority have just proven to me that they cannot be trusted.

This is a victory for all that's wrong. At least, that is the case in my opinion.

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Quote from: Iniquitous on November 09, 2016, 12:00:14 AM
I am ashamed of my country. I did not believe it was so racist and misogynistic. I literally feel sick to my stomach.

You are falling into a terrible trap that both parties use to control you.

"Those people, those people are bad. All of them are racists, bigots, communists, anarchists." The world isn't red or blue, black or white. Its a big mess.

Be ashamed of the country all you want, but keep your hate to the politicians that got us in this mess.


Maybe this will help a few of you.


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Quote from: persephone325 on November 08, 2016, 11:53:02 PM
Can Americans do anything if they end up not liking the president they elected? Or are we fucked for the next 4 years?
As Tamhansen said - Midterm Elections.

Also, go and vote for local officials, state governor, state legislatures, and all those other elected offices whenever you can. A lot of legislation happens on the state level. While a lot of state legislatures are more and more drifting towards partisan plicies formulated by lobby groups in Washington (and elsewhere), local elections are still darn important.
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Quote from: Lustful Bride on November 09, 2016, 12:02:51 AM
Be ashamed of the country all you want, but keep your hate to the politicians that got us in this mess.
Oh? The politicians did this?

Darn. And here I was, thinking the voters actually caused this mess with, you know... their votes?  :P
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Tamhansen

Quote from: Lustful Bride on November 09, 2016, 12:02:51 AM
You are falling into a terrible trap that both parties use to control you.

"Those people, those people are bad. All of them are racists, bigots, communists, anarchists." The world isn't red or blue, black or white. Its a big mess.

Be ashamed of the country all you want, but keep your hate to the politicians that got us in this mess.


Maybe this will help a few of you.


Im afraid you might be the one falling into the trap here.

Yes the majority of the people that voted trump in aren't bad people per se. But the same is true for most people that voted in hitler or mussolini.

Like with any bad habit, enablers are as much of a problem as the actual addicts.
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Quote from: Iniquitous on November 09, 2016, 12:00:14 AM
I am ashamed of my country. I did not believe it was so racist and misogynistic. I literally feel sick to my stomach.

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Iniquitous

Quote from: Lustful Bride on November 09, 2016, 12:02:51 AM
You are falling into a terrible trap that both parties use to control you.

"Those people, those people are bad. All of them are racists, bigots, communists, anarchists." The world isn't red or blue, black or white. Its a big mess.

Be ashamed of the country all you want, but keep your hate to the politicians that got us in this mess.


Maybe this will help a few of you.


I do not hate anyone. I refuse to hate. I am deeply saddened, feel utterly ill at what I am seeing, and terrified of what is to come, but I do not hate. The logical part of my brain is reminding me that there are checks and balances in place - that Trump can't just walk in and do whatever he wants as he has been claiming - but it is HIS hate, his rhetoric, his racist bullying - that can make this country a very bad place for my daughter to live.

As a mother it is unimaginably painful to have to watch your child cry because she is a lesbian and she is bullied for it. Now we have this manchild bully a breath away from our highest office and he has encouraged this kind of hate. Has built his whole campaign on it. I am beyond scared of what he has unleashed.
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We now have an answer to the question, "Why should I vote?"

Answer:  Trump

Tamhansen

Quote from: Ariel on November 09, 2016, 12:08:54 AM
+1

Any of you non-Americans have a vacancy? :-(

Don't look at us. Brexit is destroying the UK economy so fast we might be switching to a barter based system soon, and we haven't actually left yet.
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