You have a thread about this in On Topic. Do not conflate your personal issues with PROC issues--there is a world of difference in a group discussing chloroforming women on a public venue and you having a private fantasy about a co-worker. You are being asked to keep unrelated personal issues to the topics you already have for those discussions. Discussing that you fantasize about a co-worker is not particularly appropriate in the PROC. Thank you.
Wasn't thinking... Although I mentioned the personal thing more as an example. Basically, I meant to ask what exactly did these guys do wrong, if people in general do engage in such conversations / fantasies about their colleagues and it's not considered wrong, creepy etc.
I definitely agree that posting such discussions on Facebook, where the women in question could actually see it, could be considered tasteless at best. On the other hand - isn't it a bit... I don't know, hypocritical... to attack these guys as if they did something utterly immoral? I mean, from what I read, these guys are now accussed of doing something abhorrently sexist, as well as being sexual predators (just read some of the comments under the related articles). It seems that, to many people, it's not only wrong that they published this stuff on Facebook, but that they were engaged in such conversation in general. So... having a - let's say - a private conversation about sex with with a colleague doesn't bother anyone, but having a similar conversation on Facebook is sexist and smacks of rapist tendencies?
I'm not trying to say that a lengthly conversation about chloroforming women and having sex with them is okay, but... for me, this kind of thing either is immoral in itself, regardless where the conversation takes place, or isn't. The exact medium where the conversation takes place is secondary to that...Edit:
Now that consortium mentioned it... yes, the group these guys posted their comments / polls / jokes were set to private. So, the women in question could *not* see it. But if so, then I really do wonder: what exactly is the difference between what these guys did and any other case of men (or women) discussing their colleagues and making comments about having sex with them? I agree that the discussion these guys engaged in looks creepy, but... I'd suspect that other people engage in such discussions, too. So, are these guys being punished for the mere fact that their conversation got caught in writing?