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Offline CaptainNexus616

Re: The Gauntlet Has Been Thrown: The Future of Superhero Movies
« Reply #600 on: April 24, 2015, 07:47:34 PM »
Daredevil has been renewed for Season 2.

Since Daredevil has proven to be a success for Marvel experimenting with the dark and gritty...how long will it be before we get another Punisher?

Offline MathimTopic starter

Re: The Gauntlet Has Been Thrown: The Future of Superhero Movies
« Reply #601 on: April 24, 2015, 07:58:48 PM »
Since Daredevil has proven to be a success for Marvel experimenting with the dark and gritty...how long will it be before we get another Punisher?

Apparently they're already in talks about it. I was going to say, with all the Marvel TV shit they're doing, Disney might as well make a channel devoted to it. Let Daredevil premiere, maybe in late hours, on it and run the cartoon stuff during the day, do the movies on weekends and such.

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Re: The Gauntlet Has Been Thrown: The Future of Superhero Movies
« Reply #602 on: April 24, 2015, 08:10:02 PM »
If they can keep the Cinematic Universe strong as it is now I can see them making their own streaming service in a few years so they don't have to worry about FCC regulations. In this day and age of Netflix, Hulu and various other streaming services on the rise I can see Marvel working on their own once they have more content to offer. Heck if they work out a deal with Fox and expand the one with Sony they could even offer the earlier superhero movies like FF, X-men, and the original Spidey trilogy.
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Re: The Gauntlet Has Been Thrown: The Future of Superhero Movies
« Reply #603 on: April 24, 2015, 08:26:16 PM »
Im gonna admit something here, I thougth the concept of Daredevil was kind of stupid *flinches as angry nerd rage comes* But the new Netflix series really sold it to me and I am honestly hooked, I cant get enough and the character of Fisk is utterly terrifying with how he is played.


EDIT: Removed the other part cause it doesn't belong here I think. This should be more about the movies.

On the subject of the Punisher: I think Frank Grillo (the guy from the last Purge movie) should be The Punisher, he practically was him in that movie if you think about it.  XD
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Re: The Gauntlet Has Been Thrown: The Future of Superhero Movies
« Reply #604 on: April 24, 2015, 08:35:01 PM »
Since Daredevil has proven to be a success for Marvel experimenting with the dark and gritty...how long will it be before we get another Punisher?

Does Marvel actually have rights to Punisher? I thought they sold him like mutants and the Fantastic Four so they couldn't be in the MCU?

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Re: The Gauntlet Has Been Thrown: The Future of Superhero Movies
« Reply #605 on: April 24, 2015, 08:37:56 PM »
The Punisher would be a good supporting character to have pop up in Daredevil, and then crossover into the other Marvel shows. Same with Taskmaster.

Apparently, Spider-Man is down to 5 possible candidates. None of which I find could pull off the role. They're still aiming for the teen crowd. Though there is a rumor of an animated Spider-Man movie in the works.

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Re: The Gauntlet Has Been Thrown: The Future of Superhero Movies
« Reply #606 on: April 24, 2015, 08:40:32 PM »
The Punisher would be a good supporting character to have pop up in Daredevil, and then crossover into the other Marvel shows. Same with Taskmaster.

Apparently, Spider-Man is down to 5 possible candidates. None of which I find could pull off the role. They're still aiming for the teen crowd. Though there is a rumor of an animated Spider-Man movie in the works

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Oh dear who do they have in mind?

Im gonna admit something here, I thougth the concept of Daredevil was kind of stupid *flinches as angry nerd rage comes* But the new Netflix series really sold it to me and I am honestly hooked, I cant get enough and the character of Fisk is utterly terrifying with how he is played.


EDIT: Removed the other part cause it doesn't belong here I think. This should be more about the movies.

That's the cool thing about the Cinematic Universe. These concepts cannot be the best in the world but Marvel is working them like gold.

Does Marvel actually have rights to Punisher? I thought they sold him like mutants and the Fantastic Four so they couldn't be in the MCU?

That I am not certain about....they may have them back since they did sell the rights to Daredevil originally to make the Affleck movie years ago. I dunno though that's something you would have to research.

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Re: The Gauntlet Has Been Thrown: The Future of Superhero Movies
« Reply #607 on: April 24, 2015, 08:43:02 PM »
According to one of the news articles it is down to the following:

Asa Butterfield (Hugo, Ender's Game)

Nat Wolff (The Fault in Our Stars, Admission)

Liam Jones (The Killing tv show)

Timothy Chalamet (Interstellar)

Tim Holland

Didn't the Marvel Studio produce Punisher: War Zone with Ray Steven?

Offline MathimTopic starter

Re: The Gauntlet Has Been Thrown: The Future of Superhero Movies
« Reply #608 on: April 24, 2015, 08:47:54 PM »
Im gonna admit something here, I thougth the concept of Daredevil was kind of stupid *flinches as angry nerd rage comes* But the new Netflix series really sold it to me and I am honestly hooked, I cant get enough and the character of Fisk is utterly terrifying with how he is played.


EDIT: Removed the other part cause it doesn't belong here I think. This should be more about the movies.

On the subject of the Punisher: I think Frank Grillo (the guy from the last Purge movie) should be The Punisher, he practically was him in that movie if you think about it.  XD

Agreed about Daredevil, not exactly the first one I'd turn to for adding in new meat to the MCU but apparently it's doing well. And Frank Grillo is already Crossbones/Brock Rumlow, so he can't play the Punisher.

Here's a current-ish diagram of who owns what:


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Re: The Gauntlet Has Been Thrown: The Future of Superhero Movies
« Reply #609 on: April 24, 2015, 08:52:26 PM »

Nat Wolff (The Fault in Our Stars, Admission)


I will scream no please no like Steve Carelle in the Office if the kid from the Naked Brothers Band is Spider-man...


By the way Mathim...I love that chart thank you

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Re: The Gauntlet Has Been Thrown: The Future of Superhero Movies
« Reply #610 on: April 24, 2015, 08:57:37 PM »
I think Dylan O'Brien could've pulled off being Spider-Man. He is awesome as Stiles on Teen Wolf.

Chris Vance could be a possible candidate as Frank Castle. He's currently playing Frank Martin in the Transporter Series.

Offline MathimTopic starter

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« Reply #611 on: April 24, 2015, 08:58:38 PM »
I will scream no please no like Steve Carelle in the Office if the kid from the Naked Brothers Band is Spider-man...


By the way Mathim...I love that chart thank you

I love it too, makes things so much simpler. So basically to break it down, the X-Men stuff that overlaps with the center is limited to the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, and, according to a different chart, the Skrulls (though that, I'd never heard, so I hesitate to show that one). The Namor on the upper-right is in transition from being in a place where it will never get made to being brought back into the fold at Marvel and potentially be available for the MCU. Spider-Man, which has entered the center but remains in its own, consistent-colored bubble, remains owned by Sony but they're sharing his character with Marvel. Everything else still belongs to whoever bought the rights before. But in the past few years, Blade, Ghost Rider and Punisher (and Daredevil, obviously) have reverted back to Marvel which is awesome, though I'm not sure who owned them prior to that. Just wish we'd get to see some of them before long, though that's probably wishful thinking. Still...for them to be opening up the supernatural side of the MCU with Doctor Strange, and other characters like Iron Fist, they could surely make room for Blade and Ghost Rider.

As for Spider-Man...kill me now. The one fucking chance Marvel gets to not fuck it up and they've decided to clip his testicles. And they haven't even descended yet.

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Re: The Gauntlet Has Been Thrown: The Future of Superhero Movies
« Reply #612 on: April 24, 2015, 09:04:09 PM »
The could bring back the actor who played Blade in the short lived Blade tv Series. Have him pop up in Daredevil and the other shows. Or at least revive the Blade series on Netflix too.

The Flash/Arrow spinoff has added a few new names to the cast. They've cast Ciara Renee as Kendra Saunders/Hawkgirl. Looks like there is a rumor that Vixen is getting a tv mini series? Probably going to have ten or so episodes like Agent Carter. Rumored that Stephen Amell will pop up there too? Though don't know how he'll fit that in when he is off shooting TMNT sequel as Casey Jones.

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Re: The Gauntlet Has Been Thrown: The Future of Superhero Movies
« Reply #613 on: April 24, 2015, 09:09:14 PM »
They will probably hold off on Blade and Ghost Rider for a bit since they aren't as popular as Spider-Man and their last couple of movies haven't been the best.  So a cool down period may be wise right now.

I think it would be fun to get Iron Fist into the MCU. Get a little Martial Arts action in would be awesome.

I hate myself for looking at the Age of Ultron Wikipedia page to get some info since someone posted the entire plot and I couldn't resist to look. I won't say much but the end definitely set up for more characters to be brought into the MCU. 

I am surprise they worked out a deal with Namor could it hint at a future appearance?

Offline MathimTopic starter

Re: The Gauntlet Has Been Thrown: The Future of Superhero Movies
« Reply #614 on: April 24, 2015, 11:27:39 PM »
They will probably hold off on Blade and Ghost Rider for a bit since they aren't as popular as Spider-Man and their last couple of movies haven't been the best.  So a cool down period may be wise right now.

I think it would be fun to get Iron Fist into the MCU. Get a little Martial Arts action in would be awesome.

I hate myself for looking at the Age of Ultron Wikipedia page to get some info since someone posted the entire plot and I couldn't resist to look. I won't say much but the end definitely set up for more characters to be brought into the MCU. 

I am surprise they worked out a deal with Namor could it hint at a future appearance?

Well according to some videos, Agents of SHIELD or one of the movies has some kind of map where it's a bit hard to see, but someone claims that 'Atlantis' or something like it is on said map, meaning there has to be a reason, ergo Namor existing. I think there's some legal stuff they're finalizing but it's pretty much a sure thing, according to Feige.

And why would you do that?! I'm tearing my hair out trying to resist spoilering it but I'm managing. I actually did that with every Phase 1 movie after TIH, still enjoyed them, but this time around there's such a better series of stories now that the origins are over with.

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« Reply #615 on: April 24, 2015, 11:29:47 PM »
I'm counting the days until the US release, and incredibly paranoid about accidentally running into spoilers somewhere.

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« Reply #616 on: April 24, 2015, 11:35:23 PM »
I'm counting the days until the US release, and incredibly paranoid about accidentally running into spoilers somewhere.

I already may have uncovered one that I really wish I hadn't. Still, I can't confirm it's true but the more I read, the more I'm starting to believe it. I won't say what it is, of course, but damn...so hating that a-hole for not hiding that info better on that page. Besides, I'm not going to actually go see it for two weeks once it comes out because crowded theaters drive me batshit. Some dipshit lady and her 6-year-old who wouldn't shut the fuck up ruined Captain America: The Winter Soldier for me. Now I wait two weeks MINIMUM for blockbusters.

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« Reply #617 on: April 25, 2015, 08:18:47 AM »
The Flash/Arrow spinoff has added a few new names to the cast. They've cast Ciara Renee as Kendra Saunders/Hawkgirl. Looks like there is a rumor that Vixen is getting a tv mini series? Probably going to have ten or so episodes like Agent Carter. Rumored that Stephen Amell will pop up there too? Though don't know how he'll fit that in when he is off shooting TMNT sequel as Casey Jones.
The Arrow/Flash now rumored to be called Legends of Tomorrow after John Wesley Shipp let it slip. Also they seem to have a full central cast now
Brandon Routh - Ray Palmer\ATOM
Caity Lotz - ?? (rumored to White Canary)
Wentworth Miller - Leonard Snart\Captain Cold
Dominic Purcell - Mick Rory\Heatwave
Ciara Renee - Kendra Saunders\Hawkgirl
Arthur Darvill - Rip Hunter
Victor Garber - Matin Stein\Firestorm
Franz Drameh - Jay Jackson

White Canary, Kendra Saunders & Jay Jackson would fill the "three characters new to TV" quota that the producers set up.

As for Vixen...


Offline MathimTopic starter

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« Reply #618 on: April 25, 2015, 08:46:12 AM »
The Arrow/Flash now rumored to be called Legends of Tomorrow after John Wesley Shipp let it slip. Also they seem to have a full central cast now
Brandon Routh - Ray Palmer\ATOM
Caity Lotz - ?? (rumored to White Canary)
Wentworth Miller - Leonard Snart\Captain Cold
Dominic Purcell - Mick Rory\Heatwave
Ciara Renee - Kendra Saunders\Hawkgirl
Arthur Darvill - Rip Hunter
Victor Garber - Matin Stein\Firestorm
Franz Drameh - Jay Jackson

White Canary, Kendra Saunders & Jay Jackson would fill the "three characters new to TV" quota that the producers set up.

As for Vixen...



NO. Brandon Routh does NOT get to play with DC anymore after Superman Returns.

So they're merging Arrow and the Flash next season or something? What about the Supergirl show? Are they just going to put all of them together, then? It would make sense, having them all in one place instead of selling three different DVD seasons and shelling out the $$$ for three different productions.

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« Reply #619 on: April 25, 2015, 09:10:21 AM »
They'll just pay for one production season and charge three times as much for the DVDs.

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Re: The Gauntlet Has Been Thrown: The Future of Superhero Movies
« Reply #620 on: April 25, 2015, 09:18:33 AM »
Brandon Routh is already playing ATOM in Arrow... Been a while too.

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« Reply #621 on: April 25, 2015, 09:20:37 AM »
NO. Brandon Routh does NOT get to play with DC anymore after Superman Returns.
He's been on Arrow since episode 1 of this season and done a pretty good job of being Iron Man-lite.

So they're merging Arrow and the Flash next season or something? What about the Supergirl show? Are they just going to put all of them together, then? It would make sense, having them all in one place instead of selling three different DVD seasons and shelling out the $$$ for three different productions.
There will be 3 CW shows : Arrow (season 4), The Flash (season 2) and Legends of Tomorrow (season 1) plus Vixen on CW seed. All four of those shows are in what's been named the Arrow-verse.
Supergirl is going to CBS but is being produced by Greg Berlanti and Andrew Kreisberg who are behind the CW shows and they also seem to be using the same writers, directors etc on Supergirl as the other shows.
As the CBS corporation owns both the CBS network and the CW having the shows cross networks is more likely than say Arrow and TNT's Titans doing a crossover but there aren't any immediate plans for the shows to be intergrated.
Add in iZombie, Preacher, Gotham and the outside possibility of Constantine hopping networks, that's a lot of DC comics on TV.

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« Reply #622 on: April 25, 2015, 03:37:57 PM »
He's been on Arrow since episode 1 of this season and done a pretty good job of being Iron Man-lite.
There will be 3 CW shows : Arrow (season 4), The Flash (season 2) and Legends of Tomorrow (season 1) plus Vixen on CW seed. All four of those shows are in what's been named the Arrow-verse.
Supergirl is going to CBS but is being produced by Greg Berlanti and Andrew Kreisberg who are behind the CW shows and they also seem to be using the same writers, directors etc on Supergirl as the other shows.
As the CBS corporation owns both the CBS network and the CW having the shows cross networks is more likely than say Arrow and TNT's Titans doing a crossover but there aren't any immediate plans for the shows to be intergrated.
Add in iZombie, Preacher, Gotham and the outside possibility of Constantine hopping networks, that's a lot of DC comics on TV.

Preacher is the only one of those I liked. Not sure I'm cool with their casting choices...

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Re: The Gauntlet Has Been Thrown: The Future of Superhero Movies
« Reply #623 on: April 25, 2015, 05:09:14 PM »
I only liked Constantine out of those....but I sort of enjoyed the Constantine version slightly more.

Also I envy you people who are excited to see Preacher, I personally cannot stand the work of Garth Ennis (after repeatedly giving them all a try due to friends telling me to keep giving him a chance I don't even want to see anything else with his name on it). >_<
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Re: The Gauntlet Has Been Thrown: The Future of Superhero Movies
« Reply #624 on: April 25, 2015, 08:32:59 PM »
Isn't Preacher going to be airing on AMC? They've cast Dominic Cooper in the role. So, does this mean he will no longer appear as Howard Stark in potential future episodes of Agent Carter?

Robbie Amell is also cast as the other half of Firestorm.