What's in the news?

[Lustful Bride]

It seems that in the US it is now becoming more common for people to drive and get into crashes while on Drugs than for them to drive while drunk, though they admit the research is still needed and it needs to be determined if that is the actual cause of the crashes. Though id say it doesn't matter. If it affects judgement and competency it puts others at risk when they drive.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/drug-driving-leads-to-more-fatal-crashes-than-drunk-driving/ar-AAyafVI?ocid=spartandhp

[elone]

I am deeply ashamed that my country supports this outrage. Anyone else old enough to remember Kent State? Crickets.

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/palestinians/thousands-attend-funeral-of-palestinian-volunteer-medic-killed-by-idf-1.6137984

[elone]

And this

http://mondoweiss.net/2018/06/heralded-palestinians-afterthought/

[Sara Nilsson]

And this

http://mondoweiss.net/2018/06/heralded-palestinians-afterthought/

It is incredibly sad, and as the article say. If it had been a dead Israeli nurse we wouldn't stop hearing about it. It is shameful, a disgrace.

[RedRose]

Oy, and I read "old school education of women" and thought sewing and cooking taught at camp…

[Lustful Bride]

Remember the hero of Tiananmen square.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/supernumbertankman2018-hero-of-tiananmen-protest-remembered-across-globe/ar-AAycU8X?ocid=spartandhp

[Lustful Bride]

A former slave is on the path to being declared a Saint.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/former-slave-on-possible-path-to-sainthood-to-be-entombed-in-denver-cathedral/ar-AAycyVd?ocid=spartandhp

I hope they go all the way and make them a saint.

[RedRose]

I always find that interesting, who becomes a saint.



ROFL Hard to explain that one. "Ma poule" is rather… inappropriate in a professional setting. It's not mean or vulgar but you just don't call people that way. I'm curious if the guy really calls everyone so. Poule can also refer to a breeding hen or a higher class whore, so I see why she was so mad. I'd probably have replied in kind and called him mon poulet but I'm sadly used to that kind of guys
https://vaaju.com/franceeng/called-my-hen-by-an-alternate-replies-brune-poirson/

[midnightblack]

ROFL Hard to explain that one. "Ma poule" is rather… inappropriate in a professional setting.

Well, if it has any relation with a certain latin word that sounds quite similar (and originally stood for "bird", if I recall), then it's basically the slang term used in my language for men's genitals. 

Not sure if it holds a similar meaning to you, but it still makes me giggle.

[gaggedLouise]

A former slave is on the path to being declared a Saint.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/former-slave-on-possible-path-to-sainthood-to-be-entombed-in-denver-cathedral/ar-AAycyVd?ocid=spartandhp

I hope they go all the way and make them a saint.

Agree, very cool. Christianity reached slaves at an early stage both in the Roman empire and in North America, so it feels very fitting that an ex-slave woman should become a saint.

[Beguile's Mistress]

Agree, very cool. Christianity reached slaves at an early stage both in the Roman empire and in North America, so it feels very fitting that an ex-slave woman should become a saint.

When you raise yourself out of supreme hardship it allows you to see the need of others and move to try to ease their burden.



How can you tell when Trump is lying?  His lips are moving.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/04/us/politics/trump-mueller-falsehoods-tower-meeting.html?nl=top-stories&nlid=72754896ries&ref=cta

[Hades]

http://www.scotusblog.com/2018/06/opinion-analysis-court-rules-narrowly-for-baker-in-same-sex-wedding-cake-case/

The US Supreme Court today ruled 7-2 on the case involving a Colorado bakery owner who refused to decorate a cake for a gay couple back in 2012.  The justices sided with the baker, but in a very narrow and specific way.  They ruled that the Colorado anti-discriminatory agency was too aggressive in applying their standards towards to the baker. 

So my take on it, based on the opinions I've read such as the one linked above, seems to be that the case was decided on a technicality rather than the important issue of where the balance falls between personal religious beliefs and anti-discrimination laws, and whether one portion of the Constitution (freedom of religion) can ever supersede another portion of the Constitution (equal protection).  That is an issue that I'm sure will make its way to the court again.  I just hope it's not a court that has been filled by the current iteration of the GOP.

[Lustful Bride]

I just hope it's not a court that has been filled by the current iteration of the GOP.

+1

[RedRose]

Well, if it has any relation with a certain latin word that sounds quite similar (and originally stood for "bird", if I recall), then it's basically the slang term used in my language for men's genitals. 

Not sure if it holds a similar meaning to you, but it still makes me giggle.

haha nope! I'm now trying to think of all birds names and see.. But no…

[gaggedLouise]

haha nope! I'm now trying to think of all birds names and see.. But no…

I suspect Midnightblack is thinking of pullus?

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pullus

[RedRose]

Note the reappearance of the poule (chick)… https://stepfeed.com/renowned-paris-restaurant-denies-entry-to-muslims-and-arabs-0672

[TheVillain]

SO Mitch McConnell has just cancelled the traditional August Congressional Recess, citing "historic" obstructionism from Democrats.


...He knows we remember all the shit he pulled during the Obama years, right?

[Sara Nilsson]

SO Mitch McConnell has just cancelled the traditional August Congressional Recess, citing "historic" obstructionism from Democrats.


...He knows we remember all the shit he pulled during the Obama years, right?

We remember yes, Trump voters.. not so sure they do.

[TheGlyphstone]

Im sure he remembers, it just doesn't count as obstructionism because it was them doing it.

[Lustful Bride]

Yet more reasons it might be a good idea to drop Facebook.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/facebook-gave-data-access-to-chinese-firm-flagged-by-us-intelligence/ar-AAygCDf?ocid=spartandhp

[Silk]

http://www.scotusblog.com/2018/06/opinion-analysis-court-rules-narrowly-for-baker-in-same-sex-wedding-cake-case/

The US Supreme Court today ruled 7-2 on the case involving a Colorado bakery owner who refused to decorate a cake for a gay couple back in 2012.  The justices sided with the baker, but in a very narrow and specific way.  They ruled that the Colorado anti-discriminatory agency was too aggressive in applying their standards towards to the baker. 

So my take on it, based on the opinions I've read such as the one linked above, seems to be that the case was decided on a technicality rather than the important issue of where the balance falls between personal religious beliefs and anti-discrimination laws, and whether one portion of the Constitution (freedom of religion) can ever supersede another portion of the Constitution (equal protection).  That is an issue that I'm sure will make its way to the court again.  I just hope it's not a court that has been filled by the current iteration of the GOP.

From what I heard the reason behind the ruling was two-fold.

The couple in question actively and intentionally targeted this bakery for it's policy, having traveled over 30 miles and skipping several other bakeries that offer the same service for no other reason than  the policy in question. So it was more based around a attack against the bakery than the bakery attacking the couple.

And the other more important reason is that in this instance compared to other cases of it's kind is that the couple were seeking a custom ordered cake to be made by the bakery, from what I understand, you are not allowed to deny sales of goods based on a discriminatory policy, but in this instance it was the Bakeries right withold their labour. If they were buying a pre-built cake it would've been a different story, but you can't "make" people do something for you regardless of anti-discriminatory law.

[RedRose]

I cannot find the article I read before, for some Reason - nor an article in English. Basically: the "racialized", "anti colonial" students want the song "Le Sud" (the South) and its covers to stop being legal, because of a positive message about American South. Granted the image here, that I had never seen, really bothers me.

Spoiler: Click to Show/Hide

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDcmJYr8DGU

[gaggedLouise]

I cannot find the article I read before, for some Reason - nor an article in English. Basically: the "racialized", "anti colonial" students want the song "Le Sud" (the South) and its covers to stop being legal, because of a positive message about American South. Granted the image here, that I had never seen, really bothers me.

Spoiler: Click to Show/Hide

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDcmJYr8DGU

Do you mean cover versions/new recordings of the song, or the cover art of the single?

There are many examples of vinyl cover art from the 1970s - or pop videos from the 1980s - that no major label would have wanted to touch with a pole today, that could seem offensive and exploitative to many people these days. Pictures playing around with underage kids in vaguely sexualized situations, blackfacing, serious racial stereotypes and the like. The actual lyrics of the songs tend to be much less offensive. :)

[Oniya]

Do you mean cover versions/new recordings of the song, or the cover art of the single?

There are many examples of vinyl cover art from the 1970s - or pop videos from the 1980s - that no major label would have wanted to touch with a pole today, that could seem offensive and exploitative to many people these days. Pictures playing around with underage kids in vaguely sexualized situations, blackfacing, serious racial stereotypes and the like. The actual lyrics of the songs tend to be much less offensive. :)

I found an English translation of Le Sud, and it is pretty innocuous.  You could quite literally replace 'The South' with any other place (that has a summer) and it wouldn't change the sense of the song.  The translator put in a note that 'The South' referred to New Caledonia, where Nino Ferrer spent his childhood.  (i.e., the South Pacific.)

[gaggedLouise]

I found an English translation of Le Sud, and it is pretty innocuous.  You could quite literally replace 'The South' with any other place (that has a summer) and it wouldn't change the sense of the song.  The translator put in a note that 'The South' referred to New Caledonia, where Nino Ferrer spent his childhood.  (i.e., the South Pacific.)

Interesting! Back in the day, New Caledonia used to be a feared penal colony - a bit like the Devil's Island, with tropical heat, rain, diseases, even cannibals I think - and lots of mosquitoes and snakes. It's improved some since WW2. This autumn they will be holding a referendum on independence.