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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2275 on: December 01, 2015, 10:29:44 PM »
Is it bad I didn't really know who this Deen was?

Also I feel the internet it (as always) just the worst example of humanity, don't pay the too much mind.

Not at all. I knew the name and that he was a porn star, but that was all. Of course, I hang out with a lot of kinky people in RL, so I hear names tossed around a bunch.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2276 on: December 01, 2015, 10:51:53 PM »
This sucks because I really enjoyed watching him and now I feel fucking disgusting...

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2277 on: December 01, 2015, 10:55:59 PM »
Is it bad I didn't really know who this Deen was?

My first two thoughts were:  'I know it's not the guy from 'Rebel Without A Cause - he's been dead for too long, and it's spelled wrong,' and 'Is this Paula Deen's relative?'

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2278 on: December 01, 2015, 11:04:39 PM »
He's actually got a huge following. I didn't know who he was until I saw posts where people were talking about him on here and sharing pictures a couple of years ago.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2279 on: December 01, 2015, 11:05:39 PM »
I'm a little ashamed that I did recognize the name, and thought 'wait, that James Deen?"

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2280 on: December 02, 2015, 02:10:41 PM »
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/12/02/us-california-shooting-idUSKBN0TL2F120151202#KXRAbHscuSjLXC5g.97
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Multiple-Victims-Reported-in-San-Bernardino-Shooting-360080371.html

There's still a lot of confusion as to exactly what happened, but they're reporting a mass shooting about an hour ago with at least 20 dead in San Bernardino, California, and possibly as many as three shooters.  :(

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2281 on: December 02, 2015, 02:41:56 PM »
Watching the tv news with dismay - It's really smart to protest against abortions by going on a shooting spree, now isn't it? *headdesk*

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2282 on: December 02, 2015, 03:43:37 PM »
Not another one. :(

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Re: What's in the news?
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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2284 on: December 02, 2015, 04:01:02 PM »
I.....I don't even have words.....

I am so tired of seeing headlines about mass shootings. 

My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone affected.   :'(

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2285 on: December 02, 2015, 04:45:53 PM »
Edit: Changing my post because I cant let fear control my thoughts.

I hope the cops find these murderers and put them six feet under.
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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2286 on: December 02, 2015, 05:36:57 PM »
I'm curious whether anyone else has been following this story.

(Trigger warning: rape)

1) At this point I think it is worth remembering that these are accusations rather than proof of guilt and there's some evidence to suggest the Stoya accusation may not be entirely on the up-and-up (the issue of someone seemingly knowing that a rape accusation is false but refusing to speak up because they don't want people who accuse others of rape to be doubted is a pretty big issue in and of itself). That said three accusers, two of which gave fairly specific details, as well as some fairly negative comments by others against a very vague statement by James do seem to swing things against him... although considering how recent the story is one shouldn't draw too many conclusions either way.

2) If the accusations are true then Deen joins a growing number of men who were happy to talk about their feminist credentials and beliefs in public but turned out to be rapists or abusers in private with Hugo Schwyzer being one of the most prominent examples. What is it about the modern version of feminism that draws men who on paper should be its mortal enemies deep inside?

3) As someone who practices BDSM in my personal life and writes scenes in the NC and EX subforums here if the accusations are true then there may be wider consequences then simply the horrific acts themselves. In more than one discussion about the accusations I've seen paraphrased versions of "what did you expect" while referencing Deen's work in porn; both the vanilla but often rough stuff he did in general and his work for Kink.com in particular where he took part in a number of roleplayed non-con scenes. The implication people are trying to draw is pretty clear; as someone who took part in what were basically rape roleplays, are we exactly surprised he turned out to be an actual rapist? That should frighten anyone who writes in any of the non-con based subforums here and considering that E was founded so people could play out such scenes it could frighten anyone. Considering the Jian Ghomeshi accusations as well (a number of women have accused him of sexual assault, he claims it was BDSM sex) it could be a bad year or two for people who enjoy BDSM in their private lives and are already under pressure from those who wish to have it all reclassified as sexual assault (see Yes means Yes consent) or made illegal (see the UK government).



Speaking of the UK government, a motion was just passed for air strikes in Syria against the Islamic State. We're already doing so in Iraq so in some ways there's not a huge change in sending aircraft over an arbitrary line on a map (a line that the Islamic State doesn't acknowledge) but the debate itself was fairly interesting. There are a lot of domestic British politics issues that come from it but the highlight was a speech by Hillary Benn; audio here.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2287 on: December 02, 2015, 05:41:44 PM »
Watching the tv news with dismay - It's really smart to protest against abortions by going on a shooting spree, now isn't it? *headdesk*

 It's like... how the hell does it make sense? Take lives to keep another (possible) life?

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2288 on: December 02, 2015, 05:50:46 PM »
It's like... how the hell does it make sense? Take lives to keep another (possible) life?

I typically get Inigo Montoya playing in my head when I see this kind of violence done in the name of 'pro-life'.

'You keep using that word.  I do not think it means what you think it means.'

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2289 on: December 02, 2015, 05:55:36 PM »
That's what I was saying when I was reading the comments from so called 'pro-life' advocates praising the shooter of the Planned Parenthood incident in Colorado Springs, calling him a 'hero', and some even wishing he had gotten rid of more of what they referred to as 'baby killers'.  I sat there dumbfounded, wondering how they could consider themselves pro-life when they were advocating the taking of someone's life.   

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2290 on: December 02, 2015, 06:10:11 PM »
consortium: I didn't say I was assuming guilt, I just asked if anyone else was following the story. I know the article in itself isn't particularly unbiased or kind in the content it's sharing, though. I agree that it doesn't look good that a few people have come forward, but I agree that Stoya approached this a bit poorly. She may end up sued because of it. I didn't see the deleted comments but they seem odd to me (feminism or belief in others seems a flimsy excuse to remove them). 

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2291 on: December 02, 2015, 06:37:01 PM »
consortium: I didn't say I was assuming guilt, I just asked if anyone else was following the story. I know the article in itself isn't particularly unbiased or kind in the content it's sharing, though. I agree that it doesn't look good that a few people have come forward, but I agree that Stoya approached this a bit poorly. She may end up sued because of it. I didn't see the deleted comments but they seem odd to me (feminism or belief in others seems a flimsy excuse to remove them).

Oh, my comments weren't intended as a rebuke or an accusation at you in particular, more a general "we're still talking accusations here and there hasn't been much in the way of an investigation so we should all keep that in mind when discussing it."

The deleted comments were the one posted in the first image of the link (where she said "I just happen to know that this is the rare 1% of situations where it is false" in reference to Stoya's rape accusation) which she later deleted and gave her explanation of below. Her reasoning, as I follow it, is that she believes women are often assumed to be lying when they accuse someone of rape and as there have been a number of high profile cases of rape accusations that did turn out of be false (the Rolling Stone "Rape on Campus" being a recent example) if another high profile rape claim fell apart it would make people less likely to believe claims of rape and in turn women who have been raped less likely to come forward. So she decides in the interest of the greater good it's better that she doesn't defend James Deen against a rape claim she knows is false then it is by doing so and thus supposedly making it less likely for women to come forward. 

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2292 on: December 02, 2015, 07:12:08 PM »
This is both saddening and horrifying.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/pack-of-pit-bulls-maul-kill-4-year-old-boy-in-detroit/

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"One of (the dogs) grabbed the baby from her and drug the baby under the fence," Samuels told CBS Detroit News' Stephanie Davis. "The dogs started mauling on the baby, and when we came out -- we were getting ready to go somewhere -- she said, 'Miss Lala, they've got my baby!'"
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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2293 on: December 02, 2015, 08:13:52 PM »
This is both saddening and horrifying.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/pack-of-pit-bulls-maul-kill-4-year-old-boy-in-detroit/

I was gonna post but this is just to horrible to comment on....

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2295 on: December 03, 2015, 12:37:28 AM »
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/12/02/us-california-shooting-idUSKBN0TL2F120151202#KXRAbHscuSjLXC5g.97
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Multiple-Victims-Reported-in-San-Bernardino-Shooting-360080371.html

There's still a lot of confusion as to exactly what happened, but they're reporting a mass shooting about an hour ago with at least 20 dead in San Bernardino, California, and possibly as many as three shooters.  :(


So one of the alleged attackers has been captured and is being questioned, two have been gunned down. Of the two killed, one has been identified as Syed Farook. Not that it's related to the crime or anything, but apparently, this guy happens to be a Muslim. What's more disturbing is that the article suggests that he was an employed US citizen who was married and had a kid. In other words, it sounds like this person was more than happy to ditch a somewhat normal life in order to commit this crime. Smells like a terrorist cell to me.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/dec/2/syed-farook-identified-san-bernardino-shooting-sus/

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2296 on: December 03, 2015, 12:53:17 AM »
It sounded like the other shooter killed with him is a female, and (according to some news sources) perhaps his girlfriend/partner? Tashleen, something - it's a female name I think.

This is looking really ugly.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2297 on: December 03, 2015, 01:07:33 AM »
That was Tasfeen Malik - his internet / mail-order bride. Supposedly, he traveled to Saudi Arabia to pick her up, brought her back here, and got her knocked up. She popped out a kid and six months later, they go and gun down a bunch of decent Americans who worked with developmentally disabled people. They were just having a holiday party at work.

http://heavy.com/news/2015/12/tashfeen-malik-syed-farook-wife-suspect-inland-regional-center-san-bernardino-shooting-suspect-facebook-page/

Assholes.

Meanwhile, Obama is blaming this on firearms.



Funny how the illegality of having explosive devices did not stop these two from leaving three bombs at the facility they attacked. Perhaps we need stronger bomb control laws now. Derp.... >.>





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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2298 on: December 03, 2015, 01:57:17 AM »
Meanwhile, Obama is blaming this on firearms.


Funny how the illegality of having explosive devices did not stop these two from leaving three bombs at the facility they attacked. Perhaps we need stronger bomb control laws now. Derp.... >.>

You forget my friend, that politicians don't give a shit about tragedies unless they can swing it in their political way for more votes. Having lived near DC and listened to countless stories from my dad (whose been working there since 2003)....yeah House of Cards is astonishingly accurate.

Except id vote for Kaiser Sosa/Kevin Spacey cause hes more competent than half the people up there now.
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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2299 on: December 03, 2015, 01:58:41 AM »
You forget my friend, that politicians don't give a shit about tragedies unless they can swing it in their political way for more votes. Having lived near DC and listened to countless stories from my dad (whose been working there since 2003)....yeah House of Cards is astonishingly accurate.

To be honest, I really don't know if its political agenda or stupidity on his part.