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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2150 on: November 06, 2015, 03:48:56 PM »
He's currently one of the Republican party 2016 presidential candidates here in the USA. A lot of his appeal for many voters has been that he's not a career politician and had a career as a surgeon who also had a specialty in pediatrics, which is why some of what he says is sometimes so weird/shocking.

Specifically, a neurosurgeon.  And he has admitted to falsifying a claim that he 'received an offer of a full scholarship to West Point'.  This is wrong on so many levels, I can't begin to list them.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2151 on: November 06, 2015, 03:50:20 PM »
He also endorses fraudulent/junk medical supplements, and was called out on such recently as discussed over in the US Presidential Candidates thread (which this should probably be copied over into honestly).

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2152 on: November 06, 2015, 03:54:03 PM »
Here is his wikipedia page.

He is currently in the lead, or close to being in the lead, to win the Republican Party nomination to be its Presidential candidate.  The polls show that about half of the Republican Party want him or Trump right now.  That may change over time, since the first votes for a candidate won't take place until early next year.


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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2153 on: November 06, 2015, 04:28:45 PM »
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/obama-rejects-canada-to-us-keystone-xl-pipeline/ar-CC2dXg?li=BBmQ9Av

About time... Now to watch the salty tears of the ignorant in the comment sections, most are trolls though...

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2154 on: November 07, 2015, 08:53:05 PM »
Sooo some #bluelivesmatter supporters are not happy with Quentin Tarantino Why you may ask? Because he dared to protest police brutality.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/quentin-tarantino-protests-police-brutality-834482
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/quentin-tarantino-police_563e677ce4b0b24aee4a9366

and the countries finest aren't either

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/fraternal-order-police-quentin-tarantino-837394
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/police-union-quentin-tarantino-surprise_563bfddde4b0411d3070793c

I keep hearing that there are good cops out there , but Where they at though? Its not one bad apple it's a whole damn orchard. To be so bold as to Bully a world renown director good luck with your image Police Union. Good luck.


On another note
But I thought All Lives Matter? I guess its only in the Context of when someone says Black lives matter. They just got the wrong B word is all.

« Last Edit: November 07, 2015, 08:57:36 PM by DiscoveringEzra »

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2155 on: November 08, 2015, 10:04:43 AM »
You wanna know where the good cops are? they are out there actually doing their jobs, going out and keeping drugs off the streets. They do the job without recognition, they do it despite the shitty pay, the risks. Because they want to help others and me of them don't come home.

Those are the real heroes, the real officers that ensure we can get to work and buy the things we need in relative safety. The men who have been committing police brutality are no better than common scum and deserved to be shamed and thrown in prison. Their selfish and disgusting acts make it harder for the honest cop to do his work and make it difficult for people who do need help to call upon them because they don't trust them.

Not every cop is an abusive asshole with a massive Patriot Missile sized stick up their ass. And not every one of them is a saint with only the public good in mind. That is life and the same can be said about every group out there. We only really focus on the worst and act as if the best parts don't exist. Its one of the worst parts of our nature.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2015, 10:18:01 AM by Lustful Bride »

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2156 on: November 08, 2015, 10:19:11 AM »
You wanna know where the good cops are? they are out there actually doing their jobs, going out and keeping drugs off the streets. They do the job without recognition, they do it despite the shitty pay, the risks. Because they want to help others and me of them don't come home.

Those are the real heroes, the real officers that ensure we can get to work and buy the things we need in relative safety. The men who have been committing police brutality are no better than common scum and deserved to be shamed and thrown in prison. Their selfish and disgusting acts make it harder for the honest cop to do his work and make it difficult for people who do need help to call upon them because they don't trust them.

Not every cop is an abusive asshole with a massive Patriot Missile sized stick up their ass. And not every one of them is a saint with only the public good in mind. That is life.

  I don't think its that simple. A lot of bad cops are also the real heroes you mention above. Working for shitty pay to do the dangerous and often thankless task of keeping us all safe. But whilst also doing all that, they are also racist either subconsciously or consciously. They help the elderly across the road, enter an unsecured house where a break in has been reported to make sure the occupants are safe, but then when they see a black kid running they think thug, whilst a whit kid running would have had them being open to alternate options, or turn their back on their mayor for suggesting police brutality is a problem, like what happened in New York. I don't believe every officer who took part in that stunt is bad, I just think there's a code of silence about ignoring the shortfalls of police officers that is preventing them from dealing more productively with the situation. When talking about the good cops, the question isn't where are they, of course they are on the streets doing their job, is why aren't they being more vocal in denouncing the Fraternal Order of Police. Or maybe they are, and the media just isn't reporting it.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2157 on: November 08, 2015, 10:28:59 AM »
, is why aren't they being more vocal in denouncing the Fraternal Order of Police. Or maybe they are, and the media just isn't reporting it.

That and yes... anyone who opens their mouth gets branded a snitch. And we know what happens with snitches.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2158 on: November 08, 2015, 10:51:00 AM »
That and yes... anyone who opens their mouth gets branded a snitch. And we know what happens with snitches.

  Yeah, but if there are more good cops than bad cops, then it shouldn't be a problem, once it gains critical mass. Unfortunately cops are humans, and as such herd mentality and apathy are both very popular.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2159 on: November 08, 2015, 11:42:04 PM »
You wanna know where the good cops are? they are out there actually doing their jobs, going out and keeping drugs off the streets. They do the job without recognition, they do it despite the shitty pay, the risks. Because they want to help others and me of them don't come home.

Those are the real heroes, the real officers that ensure we can get to work and buy the things we need in relative safety. The men who have been committing police brutality are no better than common scum and deserved to be shamed and thrown in prison. Their selfish and disgusting acts make it harder for the honest cop to do his work and make it difficult for people who do need help to call upon them because they don't trust them.

Not every cop is an abusive asshole with a massive Patriot Missile sized stick up their ass. And not every one of them is a saint with only the public good in mind. That is life and the same can be said about every group out there. We only really focus on the worst and act as if the best parts don't exist. Its one of the worst parts of our nature.


Not saying that there aren't any, Cause I've seen them. I follow Officer Tommy Norman on instagram, but there sure is a silence when It comes to most of them.

On the Snitches get stitches, People don't want to cooperate with an entity that they don't trust, or don't believe doesn't respect them.  They don't trust the cops and are terrified of the gangs who live in their neighborhoods. The cops don't, I think that would make anyone keep their mouth shut. There isn't anymore community policing. They are either Poorly trained and we definitely need a reform.  http://www.joincampaignzero.org/

http://www.vice.com/read/an-ex-baltimore-cop-just-came-clean-on-twitter-about-all-the-corruption-he-saw-on-the-job-624

"What you think black people have been lying for the last hundreds of years?.... They aren't lying."-Michael A. Wood Jr. Former Baltimore Cop

This isn't some new thing that's just been going on since Ferguson, We've been saying this stuff for decades but no one cared until people started videoing them. You can't deny something shoved in your face.  Poor people have been getting shit on for decades and decades and we've been screaming for help decades and decades with no answer.
Don't get me wrong I love cops, I wanted to be one, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to hold them accountable, nor am I going to allow silence.

But I'm getting on my soapbox, an I don't want to cause any unintentional disputes (as I tend to get passionate about this topic) I need to get back to my character sheets. 

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2160 on: November 09, 2015, 12:20:16 AM »

Not saying that there aren't any, Cause I've seen them. I follow Officer Tommy Norman on instagram, but there sure is a silence when It comes to most of them.

On the Snitches get stitches, People don't want to cooperate with an entity that they don't trust, or don't believe doesn't respect them.  They don't trust the cops and are terrified of the gangs who live in their neighborhoods. The cops don't, I think that would make anyone keep their mouth shut. There isn't anymore community policing. They are either Poorly trained and we definitely need a reform.  http://www.joincampaignzero.org/

http://www.vice.com/read/an-ex-baltimore-cop-just-came-clean-on-twitter-about-all-the-corruption-he-saw-on-the-job-624

"What you think black people have been lying for the last hundreds of years?.... They aren't lying."-Michael A. Wood Jr. Former Baltimore Cop

This isn't some new thing that's just been going on since Ferguson, We've been saying this stuff for decades but no one cared until people started videoing them. You can't deny something shoved in your face.  Poor people have been getting shit on for decades and decades and we've been screaming for help decades and decades with no answer.
Don't get me wrong I love cops, I wanted to be one, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to hold them accountable, nor am I going to allow silence.

But I'm getting on my soapbox, an I don't want to cause any unintentional disputes (as I tend to get passionate about this topic) I need to get back to my character sheets.

*nods* I agree with you, that's why im actually fairly in the camp that's pro body cameras. Its good for the civilians since it grants extra protection from abuse and for the officer since its video evidence. We have the technology, we just need to put it into use...and probably make it cost effective..

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2161 on: November 09, 2015, 12:22:32 AM »

However, those body cams can be used by certain three letter organizations to spy on ordinary civilians. Body cams solve one problem while causing another.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2162 on: November 09, 2015, 12:32:52 AM »
However, those body cams can be used by certain three letter organizations to spy on ordinary civilians. Body cams solve one problem while causing another.

If they're attached to cops, as is the intent, they can't do any additional 'spying' that said cops aren't already doing/capable of doing, so I'm not sure what the suspicion is here.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2163 on: November 09, 2015, 12:48:43 AM »
I'm thinking, imagine a camera on every single cop that records everything including the time, his location via GPS, and footage and audio of everyone in his vicinity, and stores it somewhere with the potential of being abused at some point by our own government or stolen from them and abused by some foreign agency or criminal org. It may be fairly harmless now, but that's not to say that it couldn't become problematic in the future.


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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2164 on: November 09, 2015, 12:57:02 AM »
I'm thinking, imagine a camera on every single cop that records everything including the time, his location via GPS, and footage and audio of everyone in his vicinity, and stores it somewhere with the potential of being abused at some point by our own government or stolen from them and abused by some foreign agency or criminal org. It may be fairly harmless now, but that's not to say that it couldn't become problematic in the future.
Not really a problem if people realize that not every device that can be connected to the internet has to be connected to the internet. Store the recording inside the camera, copy the data to a computer at the end of the day, and make certain that computer is not taken online - ever. As you would only need the data in case of a complaint against a cop you don't need 24/7 access to the recordings. Put them in a "data vault" and the only means of spying or stealing the information would be accessing a computer in every police station in person.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2165 on: November 09, 2015, 01:11:55 AM »
If you worked for the NSA, wouldn't you be interested in collecting and dissecting this information and adding it to your store of searchable data? They have shown some serious interest in doing this sort of thing already, so I think it's safe to assume that this would be of interest.

Getting this information piped to them on a regular basis might be as simple as ensuring that data handling policies are put into place to ensure that data from these cams are stored and retained in a secure, tamper free manner for "legal" reasons. Yes, one way to store this info is to record it to a thumb sized belt-attached device, a better way would be to cache it to a belt attached storage device and then automatically upload it when the cop goes into his car, or enters a police station ( ie. Bluetooth technology). Something like this would be incredibly easy to set up and would be very convenient for those using it.

I'm not necessarily saying that the current govt would abuse this information, but a future government could and likewise, that data if stolen, could be used in harmful ways.
« Last Edit: November 09, 2015, 01:19:00 AM by TaintedAndDelish »

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2166 on: November 09, 2015, 04:05:32 PM »
Poland's new cabinet is finally revealed:

http://www.bne.eu/content/story/polands-law-and-justice-nominates-hardline-cabinet

If you ask me, I have only one comment:

... my God.  :o  :-(  :'(

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2167 on: November 10, 2015, 12:23:11 PM »
I'm thinking, imagine a camera on every single cop that records everything including the time, his location via GPS, and footage and audio of everyone in his vicinity, and stores it somewhere with the potential of being abused at some point by our own government or stolen from them and abused by some foreign agency or criminal org. It may be fairly harmless now, but that's not to say that it couldn't become problematic in the future.

But that's like saying well people rob anyway so lets not lock any doors.  Why should it not be implemented because there could be a chance. Nothing is getting done now  and 776 (161 were unarmed) people are dead at the hands of Law enforcement so far in 2015.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2168 on: November 10, 2015, 12:47:54 PM »
But that's like saying well people rob anyway so lets not lock any doors.  Why should it not be implemented because there could be a chance. Nothing is getting done now  and 776 (161 were unarmed) people are dead at the hands of Law enforcement so far in 2015.

This is how I feel, yeah. Sure, the NSA might theoretically at some point in the future decide it wants access to police body camera recordings because it is an entire organization of professional paranoiacs who trust no one, not even the citizens they work for. But they've done that once already with phones, they got busted, and it was a big scandal that made them look bad, with only the major phone companies being the points of contact. Some sort of massive coercion of body camera footage would be far more difficult to 'keep secret', and if anything overrides the NSA's paranoia, it's the fear of having their rock flipped over and exposed to sunlight and the public. I'll happily accept that potential risk 'later', with its caveats, for the hope of solving a guaranteed and unquestionable problem 'now'.

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Poland's new cabinet is finally revealed:

http://www.bne.eu/content/story/polands-law-and-justice-nominates-hardline-cabinet

If you ask me, I have only one comment:

... my God.  :o  :-(  :'(

Being an American and thus required to be ignorant of other country's politics (my own are boring enough, thank you), what is the significance of this cabinet lineup and why does it bother you so much?
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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2169 on: November 10, 2015, 01:33:25 PM »
Being an American and thus required to be ignorant of other country's politics (my own are boring enough, thank you), what is the significance of this cabinet lineup and why does it bother you so much?

From what I've read of Beorning's posts on the subject, this is the rough equivalent of the Tea Party taking the White House and Congress.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2170 on: November 10, 2015, 01:35:59 PM »
From what I've read of Beorning's posts on the subject, this is the rough equivalent of the Tea Party taking the White House and Congress.

If that's accurate, then yeah, I can see the concern, at least domestically.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2171 on: November 10, 2015, 02:41:40 PM »
From what I've read of Beorning's posts on the subject, this is the rough equivalent of the Tea Party taking the White House and Congress.

Yeah, it's sort of like that.

Let me put it this way: the new minister of defense is a guy who, for the last five years, kept promoting conspiracy theories regarding the presidential plane crash of 2010, i.e. that the crash was no accident but an assasination (probably executed by Russian working with the previous Polish government). The guy is on record stating that Russia has is currently in the state of war with us. The new minister of justice is a hardliner who is in favour of harsh law and who also happens to have some scary ideas as to what amount of power should the government have over the state prosecutors and the judges. And the guy who is going to be in charge of our special services (the agencies that are our equivalent of FBI, CIA etc.)? He has a prison sentence hanging over his head, because he was convicted of abusing his powers back when he was in charge of one of the aforementioned agencies.

Other members of the new cabinet include a known conservative Catholic as a minister of education and a minister of enviroment who is both a believer in the evil conspiracy of chemtrails and a person who nearly had an ecologically unique region destroyed back when he held the same post ten years ago.

If you ask me, it's a nightmare...

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2172 on: November 11, 2015, 01:15:51 AM »
This is happening right now.

KKK and White Supremacist leaders and followers are threatening black students on a Missouri college campus. They have threatened to shoot up the school, rape black women, and countless other threats. Police are doing very little, classes are still continuing as normal, and there is no national news covering these unsettling event.

It's 2015 people...but it looks like 1965 on this campus. I am very fucking afraid for these students. I'm just wondering where #Alllivesmatter is.

http://www.businessinsider.com/mizzou-social-media-threats-2015-11

http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2015/11/mizzou-threats-black-students-yik-yak-social-media

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2173 on: November 11, 2015, 08:19:37 AM »
This is happening right now.

KKK and White Supremacist leaders and followers are threatening black students on a Missouri college campus. They have threatened to shoot up the school, rape black women, and countless other threats. Police are doing very little, classes are still continuing as normal, and there is no national news covering these unsettling event.

It's 2015 people...but it looks like 1965 on this campus. I am very fucking afraid for these students. I'm just wondering where #Alllivesmatter is.

http://www.businessinsider.com/mizzou-social-media-threats-2015-11

http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2015/11/mizzou-threats-black-students-yik-yak-social-media

They SHOULD be standing up for those black students.
seriously as a white angelo-saxon protistant male... and one living in a middle class family at that, I believe these Klansmen should be opposed and pointed out to be the backwards sexually impotent dumbasses they are. Not worthy of respect, not even worthy of fear, fuck them, fuck their threats and if anyone starts saying things in support of these actions they should be punched.

The freedom of speech does not cover threats and does not protect you from your fellow americans. Just the government.
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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2174 on: November 11, 2015, 09:58:24 AM »
This is just after the Mizzou president was forced to step down because he wouldn't do anything about racial harassment.  The entire football team basically went on strike until he resigned.