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Offline Cycle

Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1875 on: September 18, 2015, 05:48:00 PM »
Intelligence and emotion are two different things.  And for most humans, most of the time, emotion wins.  Most humans, most of the time, do what their emotions dictate.


Greed is an emotion.


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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1876 on: September 18, 2015, 06:01:41 PM »
Intelligence and emotion are two different things.  And for most humans, most of the time, emotion wins.  Most humans, most of the time, do what their emotions dictate.


Greed is an emotion.

It's also one of the Seven Deadly Sins (Avarice).  But cognitive dissonance and all that...

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1877 on: September 18, 2015, 06:07:20 PM »
It's also one of the Seven Deadly Sins (Avarice).  But cognitive dissonance and all that...

Not to mention typical Politician Attitude. Its illegal/wrong/immoral unless I or my party are doing it.


.....in other news.....A 10 year old girl is told she has HIV..and its the most heart breaking thing in the world. (shes had it al her life but is being given the talk now by her adoptive parents)

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/she%e2%80%99s-10-she-has-hiv-and-she%e2%80%99s-about-to-learn-the-truth/ar-AAesPyt?li=AAa0dzB&ocid=HPCDHP

Seriously don't read this unless you want to see how hard you can cry. At seven years old she said she wanted to die......
« Last Edit: September 18, 2015, 06:12:37 PM by Lustful Bride »

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1878 on: September 18, 2015, 06:13:31 PM »
There's been a recent development of a pill you can take which makes becoming infected with HIV much less likely while the drug is in your system. Several studies now have observed no transmissions of the virus occurring to at-risk volunteers using the pill daily.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-18/hiv-prep-pill-show-positive-signs/6774412

Far from a perfect solution to HIV but it's an interesting one and an approach I never imagined before.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1879 on: September 18, 2015, 06:16:09 PM »
Not to mention typical Politician Attitude. Its illegal/wrong/immoral unless I or my party are doing it.


.....in other news.....A 10 year old girl is told she has HIV..and its the most heart breaking thing in the world. (shes had it al her life but is being given the talk now by her adoptive parents)

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/she%e2%80%99s-10-she-has-hiv-and-she%e2%80%99s-about-to-learn-the-truth/ar-AAesPyt?li=AAa0dzB&ocid=HPCDHP

Seriously don't read this unless you want to see how hard you can cry. At seven years old she said she wanted to die......

Tough little girl, IMO. The article made it sound like learning what she had and why she needed to take those medicines she hated so much - i.e. - treating her like an adult - seemed to make her more determined, which is hopeful. But no ten-year old should have to be treated like an adult to begin with.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1880 on: September 19, 2015, 11:13:57 AM »
I just don't understand how Gosar (and people like him) are able to stick their heads in the sand and deny climate change.

Well, a lot of people here say that the climate change isn't happening, either. They say it's all panic-mongering...

The Pope is posing a bit of a problem with the GOP.  On the one hand, he's the freaking Pope, and the Bible Belt is used to having the Pope being 'their guy'.  On the other hand, Pope Francis is the most liberal Pope the RC Church has seen in a long time.

Interestingly enough, the Pope doesn't seem to be a problem to our right-wing guys here. Basically, they rationalize his opinions they don't agree with as either the Pope being misquoted by liberal media, or they just say that they don't have to listen to his opinions on some matters, as papal infallibility doesn't cover them...

For example, recently the Pope said that we should be helping the immigrants / refugees and take them in. One of our leading Catholic politicians, who's also critical of letting the immigrants in, openly said on the TV: "I do believe the Pope is wrong".

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1881 on: September 19, 2015, 01:50:12 PM »
...or they just say that they don't have to listen to his opinions on some matters, as papal infallibility doesn't cover them...

For example, recently the Pope said that we should be helping the immigrants / refugees and take them in. One of our leading Catholic politicians, who's also critical of letting the immigrants in, openly said on the TV: "I do believe the Pope is wrong".
And he has every right to say so, even as a conservative Catholic. The whole "infalibility" thing is often misunderstood; as long as certain criteria are not met, whatever the Pope says is just his personal opinion. To make a statement "infalible", the Pope has to speak "ex cathedra", which boils down to him making the statement the official word of god by declaring it as such, using a certain opening formula. Basically he has to say something that (very roughly, in my own words) translates as "now listen up, you primitive screwheads, for I am to proclaim the will of the almighty". Only then is it actually covered by his "infalibility".

Doesn't mean I agree with that politician in question on the subject at hand, but he is free to disagree with the Pope in most any matter, even if he is a catholic.
« Last Edit: September 19, 2015, 01:51:15 PM by Cassandra LeMay »

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1882 on: September 19, 2015, 02:29:19 PM »
And he has every right to say so, even as a conservative Catholic. The whole "infalibility" thing is often misunderstood; as long as certain criteria are not met, whatever the Pope says is just his personal opinion. To make a statement "infalible", the Pope has to speak "ex cathedra", which boils down to him making the statement the official word of god by declaring it as such, using a certain opening formula. Basically he has to say something that (very roughly, in my own words) translates as "now listen up, you primitive screwheads, for I am to proclaim the will of the almighty". Only then is it actually covered by his "infalibility".

Doesn't mean I agree with that politician in question on the subject at hand, but he is free to disagree with the Pope in most any matter, even if he is a catholic.

True, but see: back when John Paul II was the Pope, his word was considered almost-holy back here. It was almost the same with Benedict XVI. Basically, when a Pope says something our right-wingers agree with, then they seem to point to this Pope's opinion and claim "See? The Pope's words. It's very important! Especially to us Catholics!"

Now, there's a Pope they don't agree with... and they have absolutely no problem with casually shrugging off what he says. Suddenly, there's no "The Pope's opinion is very important" attitude anymore.

Also, the attempts both by Polish Catholic politicians and publicists and by the Polish hierarchy itself to explain away some of the uncomfortable (to them...) ideas Pope Francis presents are sometimes... embarrassing. There was this one time when the Pope said that the hierarchy members don't really need expensive cars and the like... and, back here, the hierarchy representatives hastened to explain why it's actually *okay* for them to own such cars and why the Pope's words didn't actually mean what they seemed to mean. It was kind of pathetic, really.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1883 on: September 19, 2015, 02:36:43 PM »
True, but see: back when John Paul II was the Pope, his word was considered almost-holy back here. It was almost the same with Benedict XVI. Basically, when a Pope says something our right-wingers agree with, then they seem to point to this Pope's opinion and claim "See? The Pope's words. It's very important! Especially to us Catholics!"

The Answer right there. :P Its not about what they really agree with, its always about what's best for the political party/ what can get them more votes in a short amount of time.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1884 on: September 19, 2015, 03:42:16 PM »

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1886 on: September 19, 2015, 06:34:12 PM »

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1887 on: September 20, 2015, 12:28:31 PM »
Richard Glossip receives a two-week stay of execution in Oklahoma on evidence concerns and such. I'm genuinely curious to see how this will turn out.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1888 on: September 20, 2015, 12:32:50 PM »
I'm genuinely curious when those countries who still use the death penalty will finally enter the 21st century, like the rest of the world.


Also, 17 years and all of a sudden there is new evidence?


You hear about this a lot, all over the world, that weeks before somebody is being executed, new evidence is found or people suddenly start to spring into action. I remember Australia and the Netherlands both got their knickers in a twist when Indonesia was going to execute some drug runners. They started to be upset, a few days before the execution, while the men had been in prison for at least half a year.

Why not take action immediately? Why wait till the last minute.

If this guy is innocent though, I hope they release him and pay him a hefty deal of money. If he is still found guilty, for the love of God put him in prison for the rest of his life. The death penalty is such a medieval tool. What's the thinking behind it anyway?
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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1889 on: September 20, 2015, 01:15:43 PM »
Amazingly, the governing socialist Syriza party of Greece scores a fresh election victory, despite getting a drubbing at the hands of fellow EU leaders and the IMF this summer and having to give up on many of the promises that made them win back in January. They managed to hold on to a good deal of their voters anyway, and those who didn't return to vote for them may have stayed at home in disillusion rather than turning to any other party.

The Syriza are projected to reach about 35%, but the biggest party in a Greekelectio gets a bonus fifty seats, so they will get a majority anyway. Might be hard to say how much of a real victory this is, there's more difficult negotiations coming about money, debts and refugees, but at least Allexis Tsipras is back at the helm and many Greeks are clearly still defiant against the powers that be outside of the country

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1890 on: September 20, 2015, 01:26:37 PM »
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... Also, 17 years and all of a sudden there is new evidence?

You hear about this a lot, all over the world, that weeks before somebody is being executed, new evidence is found or people suddenly start to spring into action. I remember Australia and the Netherlands both got their knickers in a twist when Indonesia was going to execute some drug runners. They started to be upset, a few days before the execution, while the men had been in prison for at least half a year.

Why not take action immediately? Why wait till the last minute.

     I don't really know...  But I'm guessing it has to do with the development of forensic technology and often, the times a case becomes eligible and scheduled for review.  The US system is generally rather overloaded as far as I know.  The lawyers for prisoners might also have some interest in holding evidence tight until they have all they can find again (often after a long time away from the case -- they'd have to reexamine a lot too), because they might not get another chance and the state might push particularly hard to avoid the potiential embarrassment? 

    All these are just my guesses.
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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1891 on: September 20, 2015, 01:36:46 PM »
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The Syriza are projected to reach about 35%, but the biggest party in a Greekelectio gets a bonus fifty seats, so they will get a majority anyway. Might be hard to say how much of a real victory this is, there's more difficult negotiations coming about money, debts and refugees, but at least Allexis Tsipras is back at the helm and many Greeks are clearly still defiant against the powers that be outside of the country

      Now if only the plan to live without the Eurozone will finally take shape... 

... And then just perhaps, we could all chip in and get one of the little islands they finally lease to pay for their escape, and establish the Mediterranean Paradise of Elliquiy.   >:)

     Or (back in the present) is symbolic defiance 'currency' enough to satisfy them?
 
 
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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1893 on: September 21, 2015, 12:55:23 AM »
      Now if only the plan to live without the Eurozone will finally take shape... 

... And then just perhaps, we could all chip in and get one of the little islands they finally lease to pay for their escape, and establish the Mediterranean Paradise of Elliquiy.   >:)

I'd support that. ;)

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1894 on: September 21, 2015, 08:02:50 AM »

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1895 on: September 22, 2015, 08:20:38 AM »
16 year old Olivia Hallisey won the google science fair with a new way to detect the Ebola virus within a patient that only takes 30 minutes and its cheaper/easier to produce than most modern methods.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/this-16-year-old-won-the-google-science-fair-with-a-way-to-detect-ebola/ar-AAeAOXm?li=AAa0dzB&ocid=HPCDHP

I say give this girl a nobel peace prize! This is life saving to so many people!

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1896 on: September 22, 2015, 08:45:41 AM »
If anyone ever doubted that there are sociopaths in the business world, this guy should change your mind.

Long story short, there is a drug used to treat toxoplasmosis - a parasitic infection that is of particular danger to pregnant women and immunocompromised individuals.  It is used as a co-treatment for HIV infections, some cancers, and malaria.  It cost $13.50 a pill, which is a hefty chunk of change.  It's also a generic, dating back over 60 years.

Enter Turing Pharmaceuticals, who purchased the rights to the drug.  It now costs $750 per tablet.  And no, I did not miss a decimal point there.  This raises the average cost of treatment from a little over a thousand dollars to $63,000 dollars.  And the CEO says that the price hike 'isn't excessive at all'

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1897 on: September 22, 2015, 09:00:13 AM »
Yeah, he's a real sweetheart. 

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Shkreli, 31, previously served as CEO of publicly-traded biotech company Retrophin. Last year, the board fired him because of stock irregularities, Bloomberg reported. Retrophin recently filed a lawsuit seeking $65 million in damages, alleging that he used the company to pay off claims of investors from his hedge fund. Shkreli told Forbes the company's claims are "preposterous."


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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1898 on: September 22, 2015, 12:53:42 PM »
Explain to me again how that whole 'socialised medicine' is bad thing goes  :P

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1899 on: September 22, 2015, 01:21:01 PM »
Explain to me again how that whole 'socialised medicine' is bad thing goes  :P

Damned if I know.  #FeelTheBern