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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1300 on: June 18, 2015, 08:03:31 PM »
You can look up the Ferguson riots, the Michael Brown case, and the Freddie Gray case. Ultimately in all these cases before any proper investigation was even done, a rose tinted picture was already painted with the various social media platforms filled with people handing out "justice" When the sentence came out, well we all know what happened then because obviously the sentence was "wrong" and the justice system is corrupted
Unarmed victims are routinely described as "thugs", have unconnected possible wrongdoing made public to smear their names, and are depicted as drugged-up time bombs just looking to pick a fight with police. Meanwhile, a mass-murderer with a history of substantial drug usage who openly admits the racial motivation of his crime? I'll place an extremely large bet you'll never see him described in those terms. A guy with a 666 tattoo on his forehead who holds a goddamn church at gunpoint? Taken in peacefully. Zero points for guessing what decides which category you fall into.

What does that image even prove, someone telling that Dylann was "as quiet and soft-spoken" maybe he really was like that? These killers aren't usually the loud jock type in high school and outside of school, and yes Michael Brown was no angel indeed. The one who went on a shooting spree in Santa Barbara was also described as "quiet" but so what?
There's a substantial difference in media portrayal and police handling of unarmed black victims of violence as compared to violent white people, and it is exactly the opposite of what you claimed. That's what that image demonstrates.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1301 on: June 18, 2015, 08:11:26 PM »
Presumably if someone is suddenly mowing down unarmed people machine-gun style in a church - or children and teachers in a school: thinking of Sandy Hook here - the "quiet and soft-spoken" image wasn't the full picture.  >:(


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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1302 on: June 18, 2015, 08:15:55 PM »
  There's also the image comparing his arrest to that of  Eric Garne, the black guy who died in a choke hold. Their crimes? Mass murder vs. selling cigarettes.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1303 on: June 18, 2015, 08:25:50 PM »
Unarmed victims are routinely described as "thugs", have unconnected possible wrongdoing made public to smear their names, and are depicted as drugged-up time bombs just looking to pick a fight with police. Meanwhile, a mass-murderer with a history of substantial drug usage who openly admits the racial motivation of his crime? I'll place an extremely large bet you'll never see him described in those terms. A guy with a 666 tattoo on his forehead who holds a goddamn church at gunpoint? Taken in peacefully. Zero points for guessing what decides which category you fall into.
There's a substantial difference in media portrayal and police handling of unarmed black victims of violence as compared to violent white people, and it is exactly the opposite of what you claimed. That's what that image demonstrates.

Well of course the media has to hush hush about the black violence because there is a high chance it will incite some form of riot as we have seen in the past many many times. Also being a cop in cities like Chicago and Detroit is extremely tough, and increasingly so in cities like Baltimore for example. In some areas at a wrong time it might as well be a death sentence. When you harsh the police enough they will stop working, and then we will truly witness what a society without the evil police man can be. Do you know why they never cut electricity from Soweto in South Africa, but do it regularly from many other areas?

I think the "quiet and soft-spoken" referred more to the personal traits of the killer outside of the shooting situation, but yes that's a problem with modern services like twitter where people base their view on a limited number of characters.

Having read this forum quite a lot I would say something like around 80% of the people here would most likely vote for democrat and hold very liberal views, this type of forum attracts liberally minded people so of course the general consensus here is vastly different than in a more conservative messaging board. Everyone has the right to opinion and you can't claim that you have any moral high ground to other kinds of people.

What comes to Eric Garner, is that he had a criminal record of dozens of arrests and other crimes. So saying that he was merely selling cigarettes is pretty lame. The officer in the case of Eric Garner was also released of charges, what?!? The court must be bribed or even worse it must be corrupted all the way. Come on now.
« Last Edit: June 18, 2015, 08:28:07 PM by Mistyy »

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1304 on: June 18, 2015, 08:31:01 PM »
What comes to Eric Garner, is that he had a criminal record of dozens of arrests and other crimes. So saying that he was merely selling cigarettes is pretty lame. The officer in the case of Eric Garner was also released of charges, what?!? The court must be bribed or even worse it must be corrupted all the way. Come on now.

  Did the criminal record involve a hate crime that claimed 9 lives?

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1305 on: June 18, 2015, 08:34:53 PM »
Posting some news from the state I live in.

The weather here has been extraordinarily bad the past 1 1/2 months. To a point where there a portion of highway now indefinitely closed a section of the Interstate due to water and rock slides.

I hate to think of how badly Tropical Storm Bill must be affecting Texas.  :-\

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1306 on: June 18, 2015, 08:56:59 PM »

What comes to Eric Garner, is that he had a criminal record of dozens of arrests and other crimes. So saying that he was merely selling cigarettes is pretty lame. The officer in the case of Eric Garner was also released of charges, what?!? The court must be bribed or even worse it must be corrupted all the way. Come on now.

It's very hard in most countries to get any policemen's actions reviewed in court in  satisfying manner if the suspected outcome of those actions may have involved violent crimes (abuse, harsh beatings, killing, rape etc alleged to have been inflicted during working hours by one or more cops).  Parents, relatives and lawyers struggling for years to break through the brick wall of police corps loyalty, an unspoken "I'm not gonna say anything that could damage my fellow policeman" is more rule than exception. That's as true in Britain, France, Finland or Sweden as it is in India or Italy.

And IIRC the cop who forced Garner into a chokehold was acquitted because it could not be established that his sitting on the guy had been the sole cause, or the only decisive cause of his death. Garner was overweight, remember? Nor could it be made clear that he had to have known (deliberate intention) that if he forced Garner down that way, he would seriously risk the man's life. That's a bit like saying, if several armed men are threatening a single unarmed man in some hotel room, and saying "either you'll play Russian roulette with this gun, which has two bullets in it, or we beat you up severely, till you pay back your debt" and the man, in sheer desperation and fear, accepts the first alternative and shoots himself dead, then the thugs were not guilty of any intention to harm him or kill him, so it's ruled suicide or death by misadventure...
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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1307 on: June 18, 2015, 09:48:44 PM »
Well of course the media has to hush hush about the black violence because there is a high chance it will incite some form of riot as we have seen in the past many many times. Also being a cop in cities like Chicago and Detroit is extremely tough, and increasingly so in cities like Baltimore for example. In some areas at a wrong time it might as well be a death sentence. When you harsh the police enough they will stop working, and then we will truly witness what a society without the evil police man can be. Do you know why they never cut electricity from Soweto in South Africa, but do it regularly from many other areas?
Bold part: Citation needed. The rest: Cops, frankly, chose to be cops. Unarmed black people didn't choose to be black, and are being shot in significant numbers for it, by the aforementioned cops. And really, asking them to give people of colour the same consideration they give to white folks is being so harsh on them that they will stop doing the job they were hired to do? Then fucking fire them.

I think the "quiet and soft-spoken" referred more to the personal traits of the killer outside of the shooting situation, but yes that's a problem with modern services like twitter where people base their view on a limited number of characters.
Isn't it funny, though, that white perpetrators of violence are so often described as "quiet", "soft-spoken", etc, while PoC who are victims of violence are described as drugged-up thugs? This has nothing to do with twitter, and don't pretend it does; the sources cited earlier are from major news outlets. Try again.

Having read this forum quite a lot I would say something like around 80% of the people here would most likely vote for democrat and hold very liberal views, this type of forum attracts liberally minded people so of course the general consensus here is vastly different than in a more conservative messaging board. Everyone has the right to opinion and you can't claim that you have any moral high ground to other kinds of people.
I can and absolutely will claim the moral high ground over people who support racist mass-murderers over victims of violence and oppression. This isn't a "conservative vs liberal" issue, it's a "murderers vs victims" issue.
« Last Edit: June 18, 2015, 09:50:11 PM by Ephiral »

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1308 on: June 18, 2015, 10:11:23 PM »
Everyday I wake up, I am reminded that in my own country I can't do anything without being reminded that I was born black and that the world is afraid of me and will kill me before anything else.

Love it

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1309 on: June 18, 2015, 10:25:51 PM »
Everyday I wake up, I am reminded that in my own country I can't do anything without being reminded that I was born black and that the world is afraid of me and will kill me before anything else.

Love it

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Makes me sad that the country I love is suffering like this. That this is such a problem its almost expected.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1310 on: June 18, 2015, 10:31:32 PM »
Everyday I wake up, I am reminded that in my own country I can't do anything without being reminded that I was born black and that the world is afraid of me and will kill me before anything else.

I won't pretend to understand being part of a racial minority, but I can definitely relate to that sentiment of how much it hurts to see people like yourself receiving hatred or being killed for no reason you can understand.

It sucks. *offers my commiserations*

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1311 on: June 18, 2015, 10:40:26 PM »
Thanks guys. I'm just having a bit of a fit reading comments from other websites and people saying that black people are race baiting the crime on the people in church wasn't racist - even though the killer said himself that it was racially charged and even going as far as to make excuses as to why he was treated humanely during the arrest, but these so called "black thugs" were shot or choked to death.


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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1312 on: June 18, 2015, 11:26:05 PM »
Thanks guys. I'm just having a bit of a fit reading comments from other websites and people saying that black people are race baiting the crime on the people in church wasn't racist - even though the killer said himself that it was racially charged and even going as far as to make excuses as to why he was treated humanely during the arrest, but these so called "black thugs" were shot or choked to death.


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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1313 on: June 20, 2015, 11:36:56 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/texas-turns-away-criminal-truancy-courts-students-142053292.html

I came close to being "criminally" truant back in Highschool, but that was because I hated my life at school on top of days where I was either not feeling physically fit to attend or just arriving to school past the bell. But being fined and even thrown in jail for missing school days is complete and utter bullshit. Oh I'm sorry I didn't know not going to school a few days in a row made you a hardened criminal.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1314 on: June 20, 2015, 11:50:37 PM »
     Nine wounded and one killed in shooting at a Detroit block party...  Few details as yet in the article.

     Police shoot unarmed man with towel around his head for extending his arm toward them in LA...

"Just another day... in Paradise?"

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1315 on: June 21, 2015, 01:34:36 AM »
A man in Norway gets hurt while firing swedes (AE rutabagas, Swede turnips) with a home-built, gas-powered cannon; he was sitting or standing by his turnip launcher when the machine made some kind of violent rebound and threw him over. Apparently the gas used to drive the piece with was some variety of natural gas - it would have been cooler if it was bio gas produced by hacked and heated potatoes, cabbages and other root veggies, but I guess that kind of engine remains to be explored.

Police who arrived at the scene said they had hear of potatoes being used as missiles from a similar "gun" before, but never Swedes.  ;) It is unknown whether the man was aiming to fire his goods across the border into Sweden. Norway and its neighbour have been at peace for two hundred years.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1316 on: June 21, 2015, 12:15:01 PM »
A man in Norway gets hurt while firing swedes (AE rutabagas, Swede turnips) with a home-built, gas-powered cannon; he was sitting or standing by his turnip launcher when the machine made some kind of violent rebound and threw him over. Apparently the gas used to drive the piece with was some variety of natural gas - it would have been cooler if it was bio gas produced by hacked and heated potatoes, cabbages and other root veggies, but I guess that kind of engine remains to be explored.

Police who arrived at the scene said they had hear of potatoes being used as missiles from a similar "gun" before, but never Swedes.  ;) It is unknown whether the man was aiming to fire his goods across the border into Sweden. Norway and its neighbour have been at peace for two hundred years.

He should come over to the States for a little Punkin' Chunkin'!

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1317 on: June 22, 2015, 03:08:53 AM »
Apparently a commando of Taliban fighters have attacked the Afghan parliament in Kabul, going in through a new building (part of the complex) that was under construction. There was a lot of heavy fighting inside the Parliament proper; the incident is now over and all six intruders have been killed, according to government spokesmen and the BBC (who have a correspondent posted in the city) but it speaks volumes about the confidence of the Taliban - and the lax security around the building.  :-(

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1319 on: June 23, 2015, 05:01:45 PM »
More Than Two Thirds of Americans Are Overweight or Obese.

http://time.com/3929990/americans-overweight-obese/


Simply shocking.

To put it in numbers:

Apparently there are 213 million people of 25 or older in the US.

67.6 million of the 213 are obese.

65.2 million of the 213 are overweight.

That leaves 81 million of the 213 that are normal (or under) weight.



Why isn't something serious being done about this? I know the US government is really busy meddling and interfering in every other country in the world but their own, but surely these kind of numbers call for some action in their own country. Surely right? Like.. education or campaigns or laws or rules or whatever. I think we all knew the problem excisted but I never thought it would be this bad.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1320 on: June 23, 2015, 05:24:02 PM »
Ive honestly stopped giving a shit about the weight problem. Person wants to be fat and suffer the health defects, that's their problem, not mine. I hate that its become such a stereotype for Americans. It pisses me off every time I see or hear about it.

And whats the government supposed to do about what people eat? Unless they assign a cop to watch every person and keep them from eating more than  certain amount.
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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1321 on: June 23, 2015, 05:26:46 PM »
Why isn't something serious being done about this? I know the US government is really busy meddling and interfering in every other country in the world but their own, but surely these kind of numbers call for some action in their own country. Surely right? Like.. education or campaigns or laws or rules or whatever. I think we all knew the problem excisted but I never thought it would be this bad.

Ah, but you see, this is really part of our brilliant plan to solve climate change.  Pretty soon, there will be enough mass concentrated in the United States that it'll cause the planet's axis to tilt.  And then, poof!  All will be good again.


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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1322 on: June 23, 2015, 05:54:37 PM »
9 year old dies trying to save mother from drowning..

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/hero-boy-9-dies-after-trying-to-save-doomed-mom-from-suv/ar-AAc0vKh?ocid=HPCDHP

This stuff just breaks my heart... I would rather die painfully than have my child die with me.  :'(

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1323 on: June 24, 2015, 02:26:34 AM »
Ah, but you see, this is really part of our brilliant plan to solve climate change.  Pretty soon, there will be enough mass concentrated in the United States that it'll cause the planet's axis to tilt.  And then, poof!  All will be good again.

Aahh.... they didn't mention that in the article. Good plan. If the climate change was real that is :)


9 year old dies trying to save mother from drowning..

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/hero-boy-9-dies-after-trying-to-save-doomed-mom-from-suv/ar-AAc0vKh?ocid=HPCDHP

This stuff just breaks my heart... I would rather die painfully than have my child die with me.  :'(


It was the kid's own choice. I can understand you, but how would the kid feel the rest of his life knowing he might have saved his mom? This was a loss-loss situation for everybody from the start.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #1324 on: June 25, 2015, 12:45:17 PM »
The US Supreme Court upheld the current provisions on federal tax credits of the Affordable Care Act (aka Obamacare) in a 6-3 decision.

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/06/25/politics/supreme-court-ruling-obamacare/index.html