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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #600 on: November 21, 2014, 06:14:39 PM »
True, there are minor orders and non militant ones, but outside of an Inquisitors retinue, you're not likely to see them on the tabletop anywhere :)

Actually, both the Dialogi and the Hospitallers have their minis and can be included in a Sororitas army (as a part of a Canoness' command squad). So, you *can* see them on the tabletop :)

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #601 on: November 21, 2014, 06:19:56 PM »
Hospitaliers I can see, medics and all that. But what does a Dialogous member contribute to a battlefield?

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« Reply #602 on: November 21, 2014, 06:27:05 PM »
They operate laud hailers, which strenghten the rest the army's faith. Meaning, they help with the miracles.

In fact, this ability makes them more useful than the Hospitallers, whose presence basically makes the command squad (and only the command squad) harder to kill (I guess that's what the Feel No Pain rule effectively means...).

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« Reply #603 on: November 21, 2014, 06:40:24 PM »
So they're the radio(w)men, then. That's probably the most useful job you're going to find for a linguistic scholar on a battlefield.

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #604 on: November 22, 2014, 04:15:34 AM »
Probably a long shot, but do any of the Marine players here happen to have leftover bits from the Sternguard plastics? I'd like to try and get hold of some of the alternate bolters with drum and box magazines and don't particularly feel like picking up the whole set for a handfull of guns :)

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #605 on: November 22, 2014, 02:30:56 PM »
Do we ever get a look into what the average Imperial Civilian's life is like?

Also do soldiers of the Imperial Guard/ Navy get shore leave?
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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #606 on: November 22, 2014, 03:27:28 PM »
Do we ever get a look into what the average Imperial Civilian's life is like?

Here and there. What you need to keep in mind is there are literally a million worlds within the Imperium. These range from feral worlds barely above iron age barbarism to high tech metropolises, factory worlds, agricultural worlds, shrine worlds, death worlds (where simply surviving to maturity is an accomplishment). Finding an average citizen might be somewhat tricky.

The Inquisition related novels will give more a view of the non military side of things though.

Also do soldiers of the Imperial Guard/ Navy get shore leave?

Some would. I know some navy crew are press ganged, so I can't see them getting shore leave. Regular navy .. probably.

Imperial Guard would likely get leave when on garrison duty / rotated out of active combat. It's unlikely to be on their home world though.

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #607 on: November 22, 2014, 03:34:16 PM »
Okay, thanks HH.  ;D

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« Reply #608 on: November 23, 2014, 03:59:56 PM »
I painted a new mini... this time, it's a Sister Superior (meaning, a squad leader):




It looks... alright, althought the face is a catastrophe, as usual. I didn't intend her to have those marks on her cheeks, they're the result of me trying to paint her eyes. Also, the shading doesn't work at all...

BTW. It took me 3.5 hours to paint her. Am I slow? How long does it take you to paint your minis?

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #609 on: November 23, 2014, 04:25:20 PM »
For me, painting depends a lot on what I'm doing. I did a test piece today for my Night Lords Kill Team, as I didn't have the colours in the paintbox that I thought I did. It looks a bit darker than I was counting on, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. I took a couple of pics, but they came out pretty poor, so I'm going to take more tomorrow when there's decent light. The model I did today took me about half an hour. I probably should have taken a bit longer on it, I know some of the paint was still wet when I was going over it with a second colour, but it still looks okay. Not wonderful, but it'll do for tabletop quality. I've spotted a few bits I missed or need to redo, but that's touch up work, and I can get it done tomorrow.

I have the squad of 10 to do tomorrow, so I can take an assembly line approach with them. Pick one colour, and work through all the stuff on each model that needs that colour. By the time I've done the lot, the paint should be dry enough to start on the next colour I want to do.

I also suck at painting faces, which is why I try to keep bare heads to an absolute minimun in every army I do :)

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« Reply #610 on: November 23, 2014, 04:45:01 PM »
Wow. Half an hour for a mini? You're fast... or, maybe, I'm really slow, then. As I said, it takes me about 3-4 hours to paint one mini... Hmmmm.

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #611 on: November 23, 2014, 05:24:27 PM »
I've been in this hobby for 25 years, give or take. You kinda expect me to be a bit faster :)

Plus I'm not painting to a high standard. All I want is tabletop quality, which means I'm not using fancy techniques, or multiple coats and layers of shading and all the rest of it. I could probably try some of those, and maybe end up with a better painted model, but for me the fun is in the playing, and the fiction around the characters .. painting is a chore for me, and one I try to get through as quickly as possible :)

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« Reply #612 on: November 24, 2014, 10:17:47 AM »
I've been in this hobby for 25 years, give or take. You kinda expect me to be a bit faster :)

Plus I'm not painting to a high standard. All I want is tabletop quality, which means I'm not using fancy techniques, or multiple coats and layers of shading and all the rest of it.

I'm not using them, either...  ;) Still, 3.5 hours!

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #613 on: November 24, 2014, 02:50:17 PM »
Break it down into a timeline. What takes you 3 1/2 hours?

I did my Kill Team this afternoon, 10 models, in about the same length of time, going with something of an assembly line approach.

I sprayed the undercoat the other day, which I haven't included in the time.

After that I work by colour.

Base colour on the models (Necron Abyss). By the time I've done the 10th, I can come back around to the first and start on the next colour. It's darker than I planned to use, and looks almost black under the lighting here, but it's all I had in the paint box (I thought I had Kantor Blue, but meh). It's darker than I intended, but it'll do the job.

Bleached bone on the shoulder pads and helmets. I'm seriously out of practice on painting. Messier than I intended on the first couple, but I can touch up where it's overspilled. On a couple of trophy skulls too.

Red gore on the wings (shoulderpads and team leaders helmet), as well as on the helmet eye pieces and a few scopes and laser dots and such. And on the flayed head attached to the team leaders backpack. Teeth got picked out using the bleached bone in the previous pass.

Boltgun metal. Shoulder pad rims, chainblade teeth, weapon blades. I normally do the entire guns using boltgun metal, I wanted to see how they'd look in legion colours this time around. Thinking I may want to add it to some parts of the weapons to break the overall colour up. Probably to things like armour cables too. Right now, the models are very uniformly dark, for the main.

Lightning blue. First attempt at the Night Lords lightning bolts on the armour. Lightning blue for the corona, then skull white down the middle. I need a thinner brush and steadier hands. Meh, it's not too bad. Tabletop quality :)

Touch up. Necron abyss and red gore where other colours have overspilled.

They're sitting to dry now.

I wouldn't call them my finest work, but given I've painted nothing in the best part of two years, I'll take 'em :)

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« Reply #614 on: November 24, 2014, 03:31:01 PM »
Hm. I don't remember what I did when, exactly. But I'd say that I started with painting the armour red - that took about half an hour. Then, I painted the robe and the bolter black - another half an hour. And so on...

Overall, I try to paint colour by colour, in some sort of order that makes sense. As I mentioned, I started with the large parts: armour, robe and bolter. As I painted, I wasn't too concerned with the colours overspilling on small elements, like the silver chain at the waist, the hair, the insignia itd. When I was done with those two colours, I think applied silver to the sword's blade, the chain, the insignia, some bolter sections and the neck tubes. When I was done, I painted the sword's hilt with brass and so on...

I don't know. Sounds simple, but somehow it took half of my evening...

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« Reply #615 on: November 24, 2014, 06:25:25 PM »
Do you use a very fine brush? The basic colour work I tend to use a fairly large one, then a finer brush for the more tricky bits.

I'm finding it hard to figure out how you'd spend so long on a single figure when it sounds you're doing things much the same way I am.

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« Reply #616 on: November 25, 2014, 05:11:52 PM »
Do you use a very fine brush? The basic colour work I tend to use a fairly large one, then a finer brush for the more tricky bits.

This time, I was using an 000, mostly. And a 0/10 for some really small details.

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« Reply #617 on: November 25, 2014, 05:46:09 PM »
Hmm. My brushes are also old. I have basecoat brush, detail brush and fine detail brush :)

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« Reply #618 on: November 26, 2014, 10:18:17 AM »
Hm. I really don't know why I'm painting so slowly...

Anyway. Any photos of your minis, HH?

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #619 on: November 26, 2014, 10:27:48 AM »
None worth sharing. The last batch were either too dark or out of focus. I'll try to get some at the weekend.

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #620 on: December 02, 2014, 11:43:39 AM »
Random thought: if they were gong to make a live action Warhammer movie, I would want it to be about the Imperial Guard and be sort of an underdog type tale with  a guardsmen regiment defeating or stallng an invasion. And hopefully be a 3 hour long movie.

I just don't really see any other kind of warhammer tale being movie worthy. But then again I might be wrong. :P
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« Reply #621 on: December 02, 2014, 02:31:24 PM »
So, you wouldn't want to see a movie about Space Marines? Or the Sisters?

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« Reply #622 on: December 02, 2014, 02:32:49 PM »
Actually I would be fascinated to see one on the Sisters.  ;D

Or maybe one on The Blood Ravens.

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #623 on: December 02, 2014, 04:17:59 PM »
There's been at least one live action movie, a fan made one called Damnatus. I believe you can find it online if you go looking.

There's also the CGI one that's in production, The Lord Inquisitor.

For a live action movie, I'd love to see The Horus Heresy done. I know with all the books they've released it would be next to impossible to cram more than a fraction of that into even a trilogy. Maybe something like GoT though, a multi season mini series ... that'd work.

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #624 on: December 02, 2014, 04:21:24 PM »
There's been at least one live action movie, a fan made one called Damnatus. I believe you can find it online if you go looking.

There's also the CGI one that's in production, The Lord Inquisitor.

For a live action movie, I'd love to see The Horus Heresy done. I know with all the books they've released it would be next to impossible to cram more than a fraction of that into even a trilogy. Maybe something like GoT though, a multi season mini series ... that'd work.

My god I would totally pay for a mini series.  ;D