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Offline RedPhoenix

Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1650 on: February 13, 2016, 12:16:04 AM »
Ironically appropriate, really. All system games are doomed to fail quickly here, 40K games in particular have a habit of dying even before they get IC.

Hairy ran a Black Crusade game that lasted a decent amount of time.

System games are so hard on forums though, unless you abandon the system make it freeform, but 40k games really don't lend themselves to sexytimes so it's not a great audience for them!

Offline TheGlyphstone

Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1651 on: February 13, 2016, 12:20:38 AM »
Hairy ran a Black Crusade game that lasted a decent amount of time.

System games are so hard on forums though, unless you abandon the system make it freeform, but 40k games really don't lend themselves to sexytimes so it's not a great audience for them!

That's also a factor, I suspect. Other sites and player pools probably do better than we do.

Offline arkhos

Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1652 on: February 13, 2016, 01:44:56 AM »
Ironically appropriate, really. All system games are doomed to fail quickly here, 40K games in particular have a habit of dying even before they get IC.

That's been my experience, as well. There's a BUNCH of excitement at the beginning, character creation flies off the charts, then the game starts, a posting order ensues... and people are slow to respond, or lose interest for whatever reason, one or two people drop out, etc, - and the boat sinks. That's been my experience in every 40K game I've participated in here so far.

Sexytimes can take place in a separate thread or through PMs, and doesn't -have- to slow down the game. Like Red mentioned, 40K may not be 'encouraging' to sexytimes, but they're still quite possible if that is your interest (and someone else is interested as well).

None of the 40K groups I have been in have lasted more than a handful of posts/couple weeks. Definitely sad, as the background and setting offers a TON of material to mine and explore.


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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1653 on: February 13, 2016, 05:58:11 AM »
You know, we could always use Mumble. Playing the game live, say one session every other weekend, might work out better to keep interest going.

Offline BeorningTopic starter

Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1654 on: February 13, 2016, 02:33:38 PM »
Mumble could be difficult, considering different time zones etc...

But guys - I'd say that us that frequent this thread are relatively reliable. And I wouldn't say that in a WH40K RP, we would be mostly interested in sexytimes. So, if a small group of us tried, wouldn't we really be able to keep such a game alive?

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1655 on: February 13, 2016, 06:35:50 PM »
Mumble could be difficult, considering different time zones etc...

True, but I've done it before. Early evening GMT works fairly well for a 2-3 hour window. It means its not hideously late for the Europeans and not too early for the folks on the US West coast.

But guys - I'd say that us that frequent this thread are relatively reliable. And I wouldn't say that in a WH40K RP, we would be mostly interested in sexytimes. So, if a small group of us tried, wouldn't we really be able to keep such a game alive?

40k games come up every so often. Black Crusade, Rogue Trader, Dark Heresy, Deathwatch, Only War .. I think they've all come through at one point or another.

I do have an idea for a game at the moment, I'm just working out the details in my head. Heresy era, Shattered Legions ... might actually work using a mixture of Black Crusade and Deathwatch, which would allow for both Marine and human player. BC for rules, DW to help provide variety to the Marines.

Offline TheGlyphstone

Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1656 on: February 14, 2016, 09:08:43 PM »
I've just discovered the Stars of Inequity book for Rogue Trader, and am loving it immensely. Incredibly detailed star system/planet generation, all randomized. Sadly, Rogue Trader fares even worse online than the rest of the 40K line, because it's so open-ended.

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1657 on: February 15, 2016, 12:09:16 AM »
Personally, I don't actually like Warhammer 40k- the miniatures are too expensive and the lore is kinda spotty...

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I'm a HUGE fan of "If the Emperor had a Text To Speech Device"



This stuff is HILARIOUS. This series can make me laugh when nothing else can.

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1658 on: February 15, 2016, 12:16:24 AM »
I myself have started prefererring one on one 40K RPs. Though I have a bad habit of getting too busy with my stuff and not telling my partners, as well as taking too long on posts sometimes. Which tends to ruin RPs :-(


Personally, I don't actually like Warhammer 40k- the miniatures are too expensive and the lore is kinda spotty...

-however-

I'm a HUGE fan of "If the Emperor had a Text To Speech Device"



This stuff is HILARIOUS. This series can make me laugh when nothing else can.

I love how they poke fun at the lore, GW, themselves, everything in a fun way.

Also love how energetic the models get and I love the Custodes!

Also made me realize the emperor ironically nearly created a chaos god and helped me realize the only faction I really sympathize with are the IG.

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1659 on: February 18, 2016, 07:42:05 PM »
So...Narratively/story wise..what kind of armies do you like pitting together? I like seeing the I.G. fighting Necrons, these desperate men and women with heavy artillery and dug in positions just raining hellfire down on these walking metal skeletons, as they slowly make their way to them. And yet for each one they manage to permanently knock down, there are still many more coming at them, with some just picking themselves up and continuing to march on. Some even rising out of the ground like the undead, soulless, emotionless eyes. They don't cry out, or scream threats. They just march onwards like a force of nature.

To quote the borg 'Resistance is Futile.'

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1660 on: February 20, 2016, 02:58:27 PM »
I don't really have any narrative match ups, but I do enjoy creating signature characters in the armies I field, and writing about them, weaving stories with allies and enemies in my friends armies.

Offline arkhos

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« Reply #1661 on: February 20, 2016, 03:06:10 PM »
I don't really have any narrative match ups, but I do enjoy creating signature characters in the armies I field, and writing about them, weaving stories with allies and enemies in my friends armies.

Ditto. Especially with friends whom I played against regularly, writing some short-stories about 'rivalries' between my favorite Farseer and my friend's Chaos Lord was pretty fun. It makes the table-top battles more interesting to me when a narrative of some kind is added. Most people I know don't care about it, or the fluff, though, at least not as much as they do the game-play itself.

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1662 on: February 20, 2016, 03:34:14 PM »
The hobby spans a lot of people, from the win-at-all-costs tournament types to the narrative players. I've been a part of this hobby literally since 40k came out (I think the first White Dwarf I ever got was about 2-3 months after Rogue Trader launched), and the background is what has kept me going in it, particularly when the rules for my favourite armies have sucked.

Offline arkhos

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« Reply #1663 on: February 20, 2016, 04:15:17 PM »
The hobby spans a lot of people, from the win-at-all-costs tournament types to the narrative players. I've been a part of this hobby literally since 40k came out (I think the first White Dwarf I ever got was about 2-3 months after Rogue Trader launched), and the background is what has kept me going in it, particularly when the rules for my favourite armies have sucked.

Yep. I took a similar path. :) I even quit playing during some entire editions because of rules and such - but I still bought various book/codex supplements so that I could still -read- about one of my favorite settings. :)

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1664 on: February 20, 2016, 04:17:16 PM »
And ignore everything by Matt Ward :P

Offline arkhos

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« Reply #1665 on: February 20, 2016, 04:21:46 PM »
And ignore everything by Matt Ward :P

Matt who?

;)


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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1666 on: February 20, 2016, 04:33:23 PM »
Rare video of Matt Ward when asked why he likes to screw his fans so much.

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Offline TheGlyphstone

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« Reply #1667 on: February 20, 2016, 04:38:27 PM »
And ignore everything by Matt Ward :P

Except the Newcrons. They are the sole shining jewel in the Wardian dumpster.

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1668 on: February 20, 2016, 04:52:44 PM »
So, on entirely different note, anyone been looking at the new game that's being previewed, Deathwatch against Genestealer cult, in the same style as Betrayl at Calth?

http://imgur.com/a/F4g8P

Pics at the link
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Offline Drowdeviant

Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1669 on: February 21, 2016, 07:24:06 PM »
I myself have started prefererring one on one 40K RPs. Though I have a bad habit of getting too busy with my stuff and not telling my partners, as well as taking too long on posts sometimes. Which tends to ruin RPs :-(


I love how they poke fun at the lore, GW, themselves, everything in a fun way.

Also love how energetic the models get and I love the Custodes!

Also made me realize the emperor ironically nearly created a chaos god and helped me realize the only faction I really sympathize with are the IG.

The only imperial factions I sympathize with is IG, the sisters( because while they are A bunch of crazy xenophobic zealots they at least are honest about it) ,space wolves, salamanders, black dragons and Admech.

...Generally if they regularly say" fuck the inquisition" I like them VERY much.

Offline BeorningTopic starter

Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1670 on: February 22, 2016, 04:42:42 PM »
So, on entirely different note, anyone been looking at the new game that's being previewed, Deathwatch against Genestealer cult, in the same style as Betrayl at Calth?

http://imgur.com/a/F4g8P

Pics at the link

What's Betrayal at Calth?

Anyway, I'm not sure about these minis... They are a bit ugly. Also, there's no female Genestealer hybrids, while this could be an interesting additional selling point ;)

I don't really have any narrative match ups, but I do enjoy creating signature characters in the armies I field, and writing about them, weaving stories with allies and enemies in my friends armies.

I have some backstory worked out for my Wych Cult, especially their Succubus.

BTW. Today, I picked up an Exorcist for my Sisters... What a big box! I haven't thought that thing would have so many parts...

Interesting: the model is mostly plastic, but some parts are metal. I wonder why...

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1671 on: February 22, 2016, 05:27:24 PM »
What's Betrayal at Calth?

Horus Heresy era game. Word Bearers against Ultramarines in one of the more defining conflicts of the Heresy. I have no idea what the rules are like, I got it for the Heresy era minis, which would have cost twice or three times as much getting them from Forge World :)

Anyway, I'm not sure about these minis... They are a bit ugly. Also, there's no female Genestealer hybrids, while this could be an interesting additional selling point ;)

Stealer hybrids aren't exactly known for their looks .. not til they get to 3rd or 4th generation hybrids at least :)

And there are rules for playing them in 40k coming in White Dwarf.

I have some backstory worked out for my Wych Cult, especially their Succubus.

Going to share it?

BTW. Today, I picked up an Exorcist for my Sisters... What a big box! I haven't thought that thing would have so many parts...

Interesting: the model is mostly plastic, but some parts are metal. I wonder why...

IIRC the Exorcist is built of the rhino chassis, and it's also an old kit. When it was created, GW were only using plastic for the massive run stuff, like the rhino and all its variants. Over time they've shifted more to more plastic kits, and resin over metal, probably for manufacturing cost reasons. An engineer friend of mine who knows about this sort of stuff said the start up costs for plastic are about 10 times that of metal (or were back when we discussed this), even if the ongoing costs are cheaper. Sisters wouldn't have the sale volumes to to make all plastic financially viable.

Offline BeorningTopic starter

Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1672 on: February 23, 2016, 07:58:34 AM »
Stealer hybrids aren't exactly known for their looks .. not til they get to 3rd or 4th generation hybrids at least :)

And there are rules for playing them in 40k coming in White Dwarf.

Cool! Genestealers are an interesting concept.

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Going to share it?

Not much to it, admittedly... My idea is that this Cult is headed by a Wych that got betrayed and nearly killed by her old group. So, she tries to start a Cult of her own, gathering rejects, victims etc. from other groups. The Cult is small, but the plucky Succubus is determined on making alliances - so, she entered into a mysterious agreement with a leader of a Mandrake clan. What the agreement entails, she doesn't say, but she seems to have been... shaken and changed by her negotiations with the Mandrakes.

She also tries to secure some Haemonculi monstrosities for herself, but she's careful, as she hates and fears the Haemonculi themselves. Still, she wants to have one of the Pain Engines for her Cult...

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IIRC the Exorcist is built of the rhino chassis, and it's also an old kit. When it was created, GW were only using plastic for the massive run stuff, like the rhino and all its variants. Over time they've shifted more to more plastic kits, and resin over metal, probably for manufacturing cost reasons. An engineer friend of mine who knows about this sort of stuff said the start up costs for plastic are about 10 times that of metal (or were back when we discussed this), even if the ongoing costs are cheaper. Sisters wouldn't have the sale volumes to to make all plastic financially viable.

I see.

Anyway, the Exorcist has no assembly instructions, dammit! I need to google for it...  >:(

Offline AngelsSonata

Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1673 on: February 25, 2016, 02:47:59 PM »
Its nice to see that there's a discussion group for Warhammer 40K. Will definitely have to keep an eye on it.

Probably a stupid question, but has anyone else noticed the header on the GW website changing each day?

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1674 on: February 27, 2016, 07:26:53 AM »
I hadn't, but I rarely go to their website.