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Offline BeorningTopic starter

Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1550 on: August 23, 2015, 11:11:30 AM »
No you're not, you're xeno scum.

*sicks Wyches on Countess*

BTW. Guys, I think I've found a more ruinous hobby than WH40K :))

It's White Wolf and World of Darkness. I mean... do you realize how many books are there to collect? Let's say you want to play Vampire: the Requiem. There's the core rulebook, five books for individual Clans, five books for each of the Covenants, a few books on adversaries... And it's only Vampire. The same amount of books exists for Mage. Other games have tons of literature, too...

I haven't realized it in the past, but I'm considering getting back into WoD. I looked at the list of the books I might want to purchase and... gasp! Can't breathe..!!!  ;D

Offline Xanatos

Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1551 on: August 23, 2015, 12:17:39 PM »
This is taking things more off topic, but a far more ruinous hobby than White Wolf's RPG's and Warhammer's Mini's, is Magic the Gathering. Holy shit that game gets expensive quick! I easily spent over one thousand dollars and I wasn't even hardcore collecting and I had only been playing for around two years. Imagine a lifer or some kid who has money to spend or spends his money only on the game. A single booster is around 4-6 dollars (roughly speaking, been a long time since I've kept up on prices). Then as the set gets older/not printed anymore, a booster raises in price. Sometimes hitting 10+ for a random booster not guaranteed to get you crap. Yeah, I could go on to explain why this game is ruinously expensive, but that would diverge the topic waaay to much.

Suffice to say, in Warhammer and White Wolf, what you see is what you get. Thus you get your money's worth (hopefully). Not the case in MtG. Its a crap shoot.


Anyway...

I'd say, the Sisters of Battle aside, I do tend to find some of the Xeno's interesting. Eldar, specifically, Though the Tau are kind of interesting. Necron are interesting too. More so than Tau, heh.


Well Countess, everyone loves a rebel (especially these days. So full of mistrust for the government). So the Space Wolves sound right up people's love for those sticking it to the big man.
« Last Edit: August 23, 2015, 12:18:47 PM by Xanatos »

Offline BeorningTopic starter

Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1552 on: August 23, 2015, 12:29:08 PM »
Thank God I never got into card games! Not my thing, I think. I tried to get into board games, but after playing some of them, I was like "Okay, but where's the story???".

Nay... I'm a RPer at heart, I think.

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I'd say, the Sisters of Battle aside, I do tend to find some of the Xeno's interesting. Eldar, specifically

Dark Eldar are even more interesting ;)

Offline arkhos

Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1553 on: August 23, 2015, 01:31:01 PM »
No you're not, you're xeno scum.

Coming from a -monkeigh-, I consider that a -compliment-. ;)

Offline arkhos

Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1554 on: August 23, 2015, 01:37:38 PM »

Suffice to say, in Warhammer and White Wolf, what you see is what you get. Thus you get your money's worth (hopefully). Not the case in MtG. Its a crap shoot.

Anyway...

I'd say, the Sisters of Battle aside, I do tend to find some of the Xeno's interesting. Eldar, specifically, Though the Tau are kind of interesting. Necron are interesting too. More so than Tau, heh.


Well Countess, everyone loves a rebel (especially these days. So full of mistrust for the government). So the Space Wolves sound right up people's love for those sticking it to the big man.

Ahh, you said the words made of kryptonite... MTG! I used to be big into it myself, and buying those quiet little booster packs adds up -fast-. WotC 'tapped' (ha ha!) into that 'Christmas morning feeling' with every pack. It can be mega-addicting. ;)

Out of all the Marine chapters, I would definitely play SW if I was forced (at gunpoint) to play one. They do seem to 'buck the trend' when it comes to playing sycophant groups of prayer-muttering super-humans.

And they ride giant wolves. That's gotta count for -something-. :)

That said, SW are my most common 40K opponent at the moment, and that cav is super nasty for certain.

@Beorning

D&D was my first game system, my first love, and I played it for about 8 years before touching my first minis game (Blood Bowl). RPG's really are pretty cheap in comparison, in most cases, to GW games. I learned that the hard way in 1989. LOL! :)

-ark

Offline CountessJess

Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1555 on: August 23, 2015, 01:39:18 PM »
Well Countess, everyone loves a rebel (especially these days. So full of mistrust for the government). So the Space Wolves sound right up people's love for those sticking it to the big man.

Well, yeah. Seems a bit childish. That, and the yiffing.

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Coming from a -monkeigh-, I consider that a -compliment-. ;)

Stu-stupid xeno, I wasn't trying to compliment you or anything! Baka...

Offline ChaoticSky

Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1556 on: August 23, 2015, 02:07:22 PM »
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Well, yeah. Seems a bit childish. That, and the yiffing.
Ugh, dont tell me your one of those, the 4chan impression of Space Wolves is not the least bit valid. Every chapter is different (except smurfs and co), and SWs just happen to be A) based on Vikings and B) one of few chapters that have a care for the humans around them. If one is tired of space marines who are 1dimensional killing machines, then SWs are one of the best go-to chapters because they have alot of good fiction about them, while other chapters who might be even better (like my favourites, the Salamanders) either have little or bad fiction.

And they are neither childish (atleased compared to the notion of space marines in general) nor themed around rebellion against authority. They had exactly two spats with the imperium in the last 10k years. Yes they were a big deal, but neither was to the tone of a angsty teenager rebelling against daddy. The first time was because they were ordered to participate in the extermination of billions of people they literally just saved, including the Guardsmen who had fought alongside them with distinction and honour, and took exception to that order. The second was because the Ecclesiarchy decided to assault their homeworld. Frankly, i hope to god you would do the same in their position.

There is no yiffing, they are not furries and most of them dont have anything to do with wolves other than wearing a picture of one on their shoulders. A handful ride wolves or fight alongside them, but thats like accusing all humans of being furries because some people ride horses.

Offline Xanatos

Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1557 on: August 23, 2015, 02:13:40 PM »
Ahh, you said the words made of kryptonite... MTG! I used to be big into it myself, and buying those quiet little booster packs adds up -fast-. WotC 'tapped' (ha ha!) into that 'Christmas morning feeling' with every pack. It can be mega-addicting. ;)

Out of all the Marine chapters, I would definitely play SW if I was forced (at gunpoint) to play one. They do seem to 'buck the trend' when it comes to playing sycophant groups of prayer-muttering super-humans.

And they ride giant wolves. That's gotta count for -something-. :)

That said, SW are my most common 40K opponent at the moment, and that cav is super nasty for certain.

@Beorning

D&D was my first game system, my first love, and I played it for about 8 years before touching my first minis game (Blood Bowl). RPG's really are pretty cheap in comparison, in most cases, to GW games. I learned that the hard way in 1989. LOL! :)

-ark

Oh yeah! I feel you. Opening a booster pack can be very addicting. Just hoping to score one of those rares, or now they have Mythic Rares as well... heh. Totally addicting. I still like to play. I like the game a lot. Just have to stay away from buying too much XD.


Don't get me wrong, I don't hate the overall Armored Space Soldier concept. I'm a big fan of Starship Troopers. I'm one of the few people I know of who enjoyed the book. And one of the greatest times I've had Role Playing was with the Starship Troopers RPG. A surprisingly balanced version of the d20 ruleset. I GMed for my group and we had a blast while it lasted. So nothing against armored dudes blowing up aliens. I just find the portrayal, at times, to be the boring part. Yet if I find a portrayal that sparks my interest, I'll give it a chance.



Ooo, Chaotic... you just made me interested in Space Wolves lol! Now that is more a group down my alley. Willingness to stand up against orders like that is a big plus to me. I hate blind loyalty to following orders. Now, yes, the Sisters of Battle are probably quite guilty of that, but they fall into an extreme. And sometimes I like writing in such extremes for a different take on things. So yeah, anyway, I'll have to check out those SW dudes.

Offline CountessJess

Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1558 on: August 23, 2015, 02:44:49 PM »
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Ugh, dont tell me your one of those, the 4chan impression of Space Wolves is not the least bit valid. Every chapter is different (except smurfs and co), and SWs just happen to be A) based on Vikings and B) one of few chapters that have a care for the humans around them. If one is tired of space marines who are 1dimensional killing machines, then SWs are one of the best go-to chapters because they have alot of good fiction about them, while other chapters who might be even better (like my favourites, the Salamanders) either have little or bad fiction.

And they are neither childish (atleased compared to the notion of space marines in general) nor themed around rebellion against authority. They had exactly two spats with the imperium in the last 10k years. Yes they were a big deal, but neither was to the tone of a angsty teenager rebelling against daddy. The first time was because they were ordered to participate in the extermination of billions of people they literally just saved, including the Guardsmen who had fought alongside them with distinction and honour, and took exception to that order. The second was because the Ecclesiarchy decided to assault their homeworld. Frankly, i hope to god you would do the same in their position.

There is no yiffing, they are not furries and most of them dont have anything to do with wolves other than wearing a picture of one on their shoulders. A handful ride wolves or fight alongside them, but thats like accusing all humans of being furries because some people ride horses.

I don't find Space Wolves childish; I find it childish to like them purely because they stand up to big bad Imperium because they're so special snowflake. I'm not saying that you're childish, I'm just basing this off my experience with Space Wolf players, that by and large most people who play Space Wolves feel some, if not all of the following: 1) Look, I'm not playing boring Ultramarines, I'm so cool, 2) Guys I'm so strong I can fight the Imperium's enemies as well as the Imperium's toadies and I'm too badass to lose, 3) Wolvessssssssssssssssssssss HURRDURRLOL.

It seems that all the most obnoxious bits of the marine fanbase end up in the Space Wolves eventually. People who play Ultramarines (the ones who paint up full armies, not the summer kids who get their parents to buy them a force then quit after a month) tend to be super cool people, and even Grey Knights players tend to know that certain parts of their faction are pretty dumb and don't mention them. Space Wolf players though...although I might be out of the loop. Haven't stepped into a tabletop place for a couple of years already.

And there's a lot to do with wolves in their fluff. Between Wolf Cavalry and the Curse of the Wulfen and the raised-by-wolves backstory of Leman Russ and the wolf capes and that 3/4 of the unit names and ranks have some variation of wolf/fang/claw, honestly speaking, they seem to be less Viking and more wolf. Space Wolves are defined more by the Wolf and less by the raiding Lindisfarne kind of thing.

Offline TheGlyphstone

Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1559 on: August 23, 2015, 04:27:22 PM »
Salamanders are best Marines. They're the only Chapter still standing that remembers the original purpose that the God-Emperor designed the Adeptus Astartes for - serving humanity, not the other way round. Even the Space Wolves shut themselves away in a big isolated fortress, and for all their benevolence the Ultramarines are still tyrants within their pocket realm. The sons of Vulkan, on the other hand, actually live amongst their people when they're not deployed, often with their actual human relatives and extended families.
« Last Edit: August 23, 2015, 04:28:53 PM by TheGlyphstone »

Offline BeorningTopic starter

Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1560 on: August 23, 2015, 05:18:01 PM »
If I may interject for a moment - more stuff for Dark Heresy 2E coming up!

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/products/dark-heresy-second-edition/products/enemies-without/

Offline Xanatos

Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1561 on: August 23, 2015, 07:49:36 PM »
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/458311699555648922/


That link leads to some freaking amazingly painted Warhammer 40k mini's. Make sure to scroll down below, the ship pic for more mini's.

Also pinterest is an ass and requires you have an account to view their pictures. Fortunately, its free. So not a total ripoff, I suppose.

Offline ChaoticSky

Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1562 on: August 23, 2015, 09:03:59 PM »

Offline Wajin

Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1563 on: August 23, 2015, 09:09:08 PM »
Salamanders are best Marines. They're the only Chapter still standing that remembers the original purpose that the God-Emperor designed the Adeptus Astartes for - serving humanity, not the other way round. Even the Space Wolves shut themselves away in a big isolated fortress, and for all their benevolence the Ultramarines are still tyrants within their pocket realm. The sons of Vulkan, on the other hand, actually live amongst their people when they're not deployed, often with their actual human relatives and extended families.

I like the Salamanders for those reasons, and for so many others, including the fact, that the Emperor and Horus was like "So... we know you guys like making the populace of the planets take over feel like part of the imperium... but yeah... we're gonna need you to speed up a bit, you're lacking behind" Also, I love how Vulkan left them a book, and they're like "These aren't puzzles, they're just names for shit, how the fuck are we supposed to figure out what these look like?" But then still go and pick a dude to go around the galaxy, being a badass, searching for some of the most powerful artifacts ever created by the imperium

Offline Xanatos

Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1564 on: August 24, 2015, 01:17:14 AM »
Here is a origin story for an OC written by girl named Aicasse on Deviantart. Despite the numerous grammatical errors, the story is nice. It has 7 parts. A link to the next part is below each chunk of the story.

http://aicasse.deviantart.com/art/Ethinas-origin-part-1-297298103?

Offline Xanatos

Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1565 on: August 30, 2015, 09:11:02 PM »
I ran into this image and it made me laugh good. It was titled...


Being an Inquisitor is Tough


Offline BeorningTopic starter

Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1566 on: August 31, 2015, 06:00:28 AM »
Heh :) Thanks for sharing!

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1567 on: August 31, 2015, 01:16:58 PM »


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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1570 on: September 04, 2015, 07:09:47 PM »


 :P

So that's what they mean by 'Don't turn around / Der Kommisar's in town.'

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1571 on: November 07, 2015, 01:05:58 PM »
Vermintide is basically Left 4 Dead: Rat Edition...yet...so addicting @3@  *feels money leaving wallet and tries to stop it* No! I thought what we had was special!

Also im sad that this crossover isn't a thing..

Spoiler: Click to Show/Hide


Unless that one theory is true where Warhammer fantasy is actually the far..far..far future of 40K....which kind of makes the "Endtimes" all the more depressing.

Offline BeorningTopic starter

Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1572 on: November 08, 2015, 11:16:37 AM »
So, how's it going, folks? Anything interesting WH40K-related?

I admit I haven't done anything with it in these last few months...

Offline arkhos

Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1573 on: November 08, 2015, 02:29:02 PM »
Yesterday I participated in a 40K Charity tournament. I'd only gotten to play 2 games of 40K this year so far, so I was rusty on the rules. It was 2000 points and did not use the standard missions from the book or anything. The organizer created random missions that we all played.

There were no prizes for winners. Everyone received a door-prize, and everyone received a 'completion' prize if you remained for the entire tournament. I think there was an award given for the best-painted army, and the organizer also had every person roll 20d6 and whoever rolled the most 1's got a prize. All in all, there were 12 slots (and they filled up very fast ahead of time), so that was like 26+ prizes from my recollection. A lot of it was stuff donated by another non-GW manufacturer, along with some store-credit vouchers.

Nice tables, nice terrain, and great fun. We were encouraged to bring 'fluffy' lists, and I think most people did. This was advertised as a NON 'competitive' tournament (as evidenced by the lack of prizes for 1st, 2nd, 3rd), though a few guys still came with the obvious killer-instinct and it showed.

I played an all-Harlequin list and had a ton of fun with it. I went 2-1, but very few people played the games a full 4 or more turns. My one loss was a brutal beat-down, and two more turns would likely have seen me tabled. My other two games were heavily in my favor when we stopped. The scenarios were pretty wacky. :)

There were 4x Ork players, 3x Tyranid players, a Blood Angels player, a Dark Angels player, a Night Lords player, a Necron player, and me.

All in all a good time, but after a 10-12 hour tournament, I am pretty 40K'd out for awhile, I think. My current real love is Infinity, and I've got lots of projects for that in the works. But I do enjoy 'fun' tournaments for charity. Good good stuff. :)

-ark

Offline eBadger

Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #1574 on: November 10, 2015, 01:55:46 AM »
No 40k, but I got in a couple games of the new Malifaux last week.  Game play was pretty fun, might have to get back into that now that the new edition issues are over with.