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Offline Caity

Re: What's the most racist show on TV?
« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2008, 12:43:05 PM »
I think I do the right thing... if not all the time, but a lot of the time.  *laughs*
It has nothing to do with being naive.  I'm far and away from being naive.  And if it's naive to believe good in people, I'd rather be naive than cynical and negative.
I can stand up for myself without spreading violence or hatred, and rarely get walked all over. 

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Re: What's the most racist show on TV?
« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2008, 12:45:29 PM »
But it's naive to think that way. People who do right are walked all over by people who embrace the other approach. Fight fire with fire, I say, and be prepared to relaliate when necessary. Not in a racist way, but if someone shows you hatred and is really trying to hurt you, you need to stand up for yourself because more often than not, just explaining to them that they're wrong and should behave differently, won't work. Speaking their language, violent or hated, might not change their way of thinking but they'll sure think twice about who they spread it to.

Look, I'm tough as nails and have had a pretty shitty existance.  I've always been treated badly no matter how nice or mean or scary I got.  You say naive, I say I'm not gonna let bitterness rule my life.  People are gonna act the way they want to and they'll pay for it when it's all over.  I want to be able to sleep at night in piece knowing that I know who I am and I act the way I see fit to act.

Offline Caity

Re: What's the most racist show on TV?
« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2008, 12:46:18 PM »
Hear hear, Poet!  :)

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Re: What's the most racist show on TV?
« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2008, 12:51:48 PM »
Personal opinion...

I think it should be stricken from everywhere.  Regardless of the rating... which really, means nothing.  That word, in any context, is disgusting. 

I disagree. It is only a word, and words have only the power you give them. Say it. Say it until it holds no meaning anymore, until it becomes one of those words that you've said so often that it becomes a nonsense word, no longer recogniseable because your brain is sick of it and refuses to process it anymore. Shying away from a simple word seems to me akin to linguistic superstition - and I'm not afraid to walk under ladders and pet black cats.

Aside from that commentary - I don't actually watch TV much ... but I have yet to run across anything that seemed like it was deliberately dissing another race.

Offline Caity

Re: What's the most racist show on TV?
« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2008, 12:55:10 PM »
It's not just a word.  It's a word filled with hundreds of years of hatred.  I don't shy away from it.  I just find it disgusting and would rather not hear it or see it.  Has nothing to do with superstition.  And I will never say it.  *laughs*

I also think spiders are gross, not going to get friendly with them until I don't care that they're gross anymore.   :P

Offline wizeguy2182

Re: What's the most racist show on TV?
« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2008, 09:06:06 PM »
I disagree. It is only a word, and words have only the power you give them. Say it. Say it until it holds no meaning anymore, until it becomes one of those words that you've said so often that it becomes a nonsense word, no longer recogniseable because your brain is sick of it and refuses to process it anymore. Shying away from a simple word seems to me akin to linguistic superstition - and I'm not afraid to walk under ladders and pet black cats.

Aside from that commentary - I don't actually watch TV much ... but I have yet to run across anything that seemed like it was deliberately dissing another race.

Amen. Why care? Its just another word, like M*th*r F*ck*r or @$$ hole or SOB. I hear those thrown around all the time but every one is sooooo afraid of the "N" word. *gasp* like saying it will cause the earth to open up and civilization to be swallowed whole. I'm still trying to figure out why its racist to use it, but its perfectly fine for people to call other people redneck. Why the double standard?

Offline Caity

Re: What's the most racist show on TV?
« Reply #31 on: August 09, 2008, 09:13:01 PM »
Gah!  *bites you*  And you were sooo close to being perfect. 
(before I get a siren on my butt, I know this person quite well)

MFer, doesn't bother me, neither does ahole or sob. 
Redneck doesn't bother me... though, I prefer to only be called a redneck by another redneck. 

The N word is different because of the hatred attached to it for hundreds of years.

There's actually a documentary on the history of the word.  I just ordered it from eBay.  I'll have to let you know how it is.  ;)

Offline Sherona

Re: What's the most racist show on TV?
« Reply #32 on: August 09, 2008, 09:23:06 PM »
Quote
(before I get a siren on my butt, I know this person quite well

*blinks* Playful affection has never been unallowed on the site, as long as both parties wish for the playful affection.

Frankly any word can have hatred attached to it. Pink could have hatred attached to it. Fluffy could as well..it really is due to the use and the sensitivity to it. The more people throw fits over words the more power they have. I choose to release that power into the void by not giving the word power. *shrugs* That is just my opinion....sticks and stones and all.

Offline Caity

Re: What's the most racist show on TV?
« Reply #33 on: August 09, 2008, 09:29:45 PM »
And sometimes that playful affection is misinterpreted by one or more outside parties who don't know either person.

*laughs*

But Pink or Fluffy doesn't have all that history or hatred attached to it. 


A note on redneck.  I spent a year "talking" to this guy... a Yankee (north of the Mason Dixon Line), who called me "his" little redneck girl claiming affection.  And this was when he'd routinely equate it with lesser intelligence, racism, and incest. 

*headdesk* Gah!


Offline Sherona

Re: What's the most racist show on TV?
« Reply #34 on: August 09, 2008, 09:37:09 PM »
Ah but who knows what will happen in 100 years. Fluffy and Pink very well could....its just a habit to make words powerful.

Offline Maeven

Re: What's the most racist show on TV?
« Reply #35 on: August 09, 2008, 09:39:03 PM »
I'm with Sherona and Trieste on this one.

It's just a word.

The one thing that each and every one of us share, as human beings, is the fact that we wake up every single solitary day with the same thing: CHOICE. 

We choose how we react to everything that is presented to us. 

If you CHOOSE to give that word that power, then so be it. 

I don't.

Just as I don't choose to give power to the words cunt, whore, hoe, slut, bitch, tramp, harlot, toots, or any other number of derogatory terms that can be used to refer to a female member of society.

Offline Sherona

Re: What's the most racist show on TV?
« Reply #36 on: August 09, 2008, 09:41:03 PM »
I'm with Sherona and Trieste on this one.

It's just a word.

The one thing that each and every one of us share, as human beings, is the fact that we wake up every single solitary day with the same thing: CHOICE. 

We choose how we react to everything that is presented to us. 

If you CHOOSE to give that word that power, then so be it. 

I don't.

Just as I don't choose to give power to the words cunt, whore, hoe, slut, bitch, tramp, harlot, toots, or any other number of derogatory terms that can be used to refer to a female member of society.

Lord, if I chose to give Slut, whore, or Bitch power then I would be all pissy all the time. *grins*

Nice post Maeven, you said it so much nicer then I could have.

Offline Caity

Re: What's the most racist show on TV?
« Reply #37 on: August 09, 2008, 09:46:32 PM »
That's okay.

I'm fine in being alone with having such a negative reaction to the "n" word. 

I also agree that a word is only as bad or good as what YOU as an individual attach to it.  And I have little-no problem whatsoever with any other word mentioned. 

But the n word, is just... different.  It has a history of hatred that "mother******" and "cunt" do not.  It's my personal opinion, and I think I have a right to state it. 

Offline Sherona

Re: What's the most racist show on TV?
« Reply #38 on: August 09, 2008, 09:53:21 PM »
No one is saying you dont have a right to state the opinion? *blinks*

though Mother----- has been used for years, and actually was very offensive particularly to men up until very recently when it has been used quite commonly.

Offline Caity

Re: What's the most racist show on TV?
« Reply #39 on: August 09, 2008, 09:58:48 PM »
Yep.. It is quite common. 

The n-word still isn't common and still carries a hugely negative connotation... for an entire race of people.  *shrugs*

That means something to me. 

Offline Maeven

Re: What's the most racist show on TV?
« Reply #40 on: August 09, 2008, 09:58:57 PM »
You are certainly entitled to your opinion Caity.

That's one of the great things I've found about Elliquiy. No one here is going to 'flame' you for what you believe.  Just offer their viewpoints.

Offline wizeguy2182

Re: What's the most racist show on TV?
« Reply #41 on: August 09, 2008, 10:00:06 PM »
  It's my personal opinion, and I think I have a right to state it.

Even though my opinion differs from yours, youre awesome to stay strong in your convictions...

I won't hold it against you....   ;) :P


Offline Caity

Re: What's the most racist show on TV?
« Reply #42 on: August 09, 2008, 10:01:18 PM »
Pffft.. That hardly counts, Mr. Wizeguy..  You tend to think I'm amazing no matter what I say.   :P

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Re: What's the most racist show on TV?
« Reply #43 on: August 11, 2008, 01:33:00 PM »
cunt, whore, hoe, slut, bitch, tramp, harlot, toots,

Those words are bad. . .*shifty eyes*  Woops. . .*slinks off*

Offline WyzardWhately

Re: What's the most racist show on TV?
« Reply #44 on: August 11, 2008, 03:26:28 PM »
Is The Boondocks actually racist?  I thought it was satirizing racism.  It's one thing to decry certain viewpoints or words or whatever, it's another entirely to say they shouldn't be the content of a meta-discussion.

Offline MathimTopic starter

Re: What's the most racist show on TV?
« Reply #45 on: August 11, 2008, 03:46:33 PM »
Is The Boondocks actually racist?  I thought it was satirizing racism.  It's one thing to decry certain viewpoints or words or whatever, it's another entirely to say they shouldn't be the content of a meta-discussion.

I used to think that, but they get so freaking aggressive with it sometimes, it's really frightening to think that the creator is an African-American. I mean, some of the things Uncle Ruckus says, I'm amazed there are African-Americans who will actually consent to say those things about their own race. That's really selling out, and even though it's supposed to be in jest, it just seems really full of hate. And they do it so often, it's like they can't think of anything funny on there EXCEPT for racist remarks and stereotypes.

Offline The Overlord

Re: What's the most racist show on TV?
« Reply #46 on: August 11, 2008, 06:07:50 PM »
 

I was listening to the Corey and J show 100.3 the edge the other day.  They were discussing the stupid irritating lady who got offended cause her license plate read 3 numbers and NGR.  She said it could be read as Nigger and therefore was offensive and racist.  Now they're perging the database and spending tons of money to do so.  

Makes you wonder how much of a fuss would have come up if her license plates read FKR.  :)

Offline The Overlord

Re: What's the most racist show on TV?
« Reply #47 on: August 11, 2008, 06:11:21 PM »

That's one of the great things I've found about Elliquiy. No one here is going to 'flame' you for what you believe.  Just offer their viewpoints.

Experience has showed me otherwise, but that's a whole other topic.

Offline Caity

Re: What's the most racist show on TV?
« Reply #48 on: August 11, 2008, 06:44:19 PM »
Wherever there are people with differing opinions, especially if there are quite a few with the same opinion... there will be flaming.  It's just human nature. 

Offline Sherona

Re: What's the most racist show on TV?
« Reply #49 on: August 11, 2008, 06:53:22 PM »
I think it is also how one perceives what is flaming and what is not. Opinionated personalities tend to get fiery when they are defending their positions, and sometimes this can be seen as flaming. Fiery, Feiry, Fiery looks right....*wanders off mumbling about spelling of fiery*