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Offline KythiaTopic starter

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Mobile Data Costs
« on: October 07, 2013, 04:57:50 PM »
http://gizmodo.com/the-price-of-500mb-of-mobile-data-across-the-world-1442047579

I'm amazed.  How on earth is it costing so much in the US?  What's going on there?

Offline Aiden

Re: Mobile Data Costs
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2013, 05:01:53 PM »
We are basically at the mercy of whatever our mobile providers say.

I am in transition from Verizon to Metro PCS, where my bill would be cut in half.

Offline Callie Del Noire

Re: Mobile Data Costs
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2013, 05:08:41 PM »
http://gizmodo.com/the-price-of-500mb-of-mobile-data-across-the-world-1442047579

I'm amazed.  How on earth is it costing so much in the US?  What's going on there?

I think the words you are looking for are 'agreed price fixing'. The mobile companies state side are gouging the hell out of us and ironically are NOT using as much for what they are getting to upgrade their networks.

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Re: Mobile Data Costs
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2013, 05:22:08 PM »
My brother acquired and iphone/ipad package last week, a bargain deal with subscriptions on the go, I'll have to hear what he's getting - it sounded like he got a good deal though.

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Re: Mobile Data Costs
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2013, 05:24:07 PM »
I'm getting unlimited for *checks* 13.99 a month.  That's a business contract though so I dunno how typical it is.

Offline Vekseid

Re: Mobile Data Costs
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2013, 04:11:23 AM »
http://gizmodo.com/the-price-of-500mb-of-mobile-data-across-the-world-1442047579

I'm amazed.  How on earth is it costing so much in the US?  What's going on there?

It is well-known fact that US mobile providers are engaging in price fixing. There's just no 'proof'.

Offline Callie Del Noire

Re: Mobile Data Costs
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2013, 10:59:11 AM »
It is well-known fact that US mobile providers are engaging in price fixing. There's just no 'proof'.

I'm waiting fora MASSIVE network failure on behalf of one of the providers to shake up thing to where they can't go on like this. Losing say a chunk of New York City or LA county sound like just the sort of thing to show JUST how much of the infrastructure support has been going on.

Offline Chris Brady

Re: Mobile Data Costs
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2013, 11:14:04 AM »
In the U.S. there's only one major company that owns the network infrastructure.  Up here in Canada, in Ontario, there's two.  No matter which company you pay through, they're owned by Ma Bell for you Americans.  Up here, we have Rogers and Bell fighting for space, but every little wireless service pays them and are in fact, own by them.

Offline Aiden

Re: Mobile Data Costs
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2013, 11:41:00 AM »
It's basically what is going on with cable companies, there is no competition for them and because of that, they get to bend us over a barrel.

I am waiting for google to expand, I hear that cable companies in the east are actually lowering prices and doing what they need to do to hold onto their customers.

Offline Iniquitous

Re: Mobile Data Costs
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2013, 12:46:35 PM »
As someone who works for a cable company in the east I can tell you this is not true. Prices remain about the same though the one I work for is rolling out a new platform for their video service that makes it better.

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Re: Mobile Data Costs
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2013, 12:55:00 PM »
Is there no body like our Competition Commission who can investigate and tell all involved to knock it off?

Offline Scribbles

Re: Mobile Data Costs
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2013, 05:49:23 AM »
Is there no body like our Competition Commission who can investigate and tell all involved to knock it off?

Unless something has changed, I think America has antitrust laws to encourage fair competition but are they even enforced anymore?

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Re: Mobile Data Costs
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2013, 06:58:29 AM »
I'm not entirely sure what department this should fall under:  The Federal Trade Commission (for the price-fixing/monopoly) or the Federal Communications Commission (for the maintenance of the communications infrastructure.)

Offline Vekseid

Re: Mobile Data Costs
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2013, 10:33:46 AM »
In the U.S. there's only one major company that owns the network infrastructure.  Up here in Canada, in Ontario, there's two.  No matter which company you pay through, they're owned by Ma Bell for you Americans.  Up here, we have Rogers and Bell fighting for space, but every little wireless service pays them and are in fact, own by them.

...the hell? This hasn't been true for three decades.

There are four wireless carriers in the US, each with their own network. Virtual operators operate off of these:
AT&T Wireless/Cingular/whatevertheycallthemselvesnow
T-Mobile
Sprint-Nextel
Verizon

Offline Callie Del Noire

Re: Mobile Data Costs
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2013, 03:48:15 PM »
...the hell? This hasn't been true for three decades.

There are four wireless carriers in the US, each with their own network. Virtual operators operate off of these:
AT&T Wireless/Cingular/whatevertheycallthemselvesnow
T-Mobile
Sprint-Nextel
Verizon

Yeah..definitely way out of date.. Ma Bell was broke up.. but only a small portion of the switching hardware of the old network is relevant to Cell Networks anyway. The 'gateways' mostly if I understand it. The actual towers are 'relatively' new if I understand folks right

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Re: Mobile Data Costs
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2013, 04:22:55 PM »
     Now if you want to talk about a monopoly and expensive "overage" costs on data or time use, come to parts of China...  On the service I have now, it's like $1/hr. after 200 hours in a month.  And 15 gb package or you get charged for more, too.

And with that, I should probably be sitting on a cheaper connection right now...  But in fact, I is lazy and likes my high speed picture loading, though it may end up very expensive here.

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Re: Mobile Data Costs
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2013, 06:07:17 PM »
Even now there are some pretty sweet deals.

Virgin Mobile (subsidiary of Sprint) offers 300 anytime minutes, unlimited messaging, and unlimited mobile data for $35 a month.  Pretty nice deal if you ask me, but not sure how good the quality of speed is.

Offline Caeli

Re: Mobile Data Costs
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2013, 06:56:40 PM »
Even now there are some pretty sweet deals.

Virgin Mobile (subsidiary of Sprint) offers 300 anytime minutes, unlimited messaging, and unlimited mobile data for $35 a month.  Pretty nice deal if you ask me, but not sure how good the quality of speed is.

I've been looking into Virgin Mobile after my contract finishes with Verizon. I'm getting gouged every month for the cost of my data plan, but I barely use half of it as it is.

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Re: Mobile Data Costs
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2013, 12:46:49 PM »
I loath Verizon and will not bore you all with all the times they have given me the shaft or that things have turned into a protracted battle. Thing is where I live they have coverage, they also have relatively good service in the areas I visit family and so on. Being in an extremely rural area my family is all cellular for phone and internet. We dumped Hughes Net for internet because they were pricey and their service was spotty at best and most others I know describe their service as sub par as well. So on unlimited minutes and text share everything Verizon really gets in my pocket on data. And like I said I hate their lack of customer service as well as price.

The thing is about anyone around here will tell you that if you want reliable coverage then you are stuck with Verizon. The other carriers are so spotty that it really does not make sense to use them. Even though the prices are nice it does not do you much good if you cannot get out. So what that all pans out to is a monopoly if not in actuality, in theory. So Verizon continues to screw you and one has to pretty much smile and take it.

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Re: Mobile Data Costs
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2013, 01:00:33 PM »
I've been looking into Virgin Mobile after my contract finishes with Verizon. I'm getting gouged every month for the cost of my data plan, but I barely use half of it as it is.

I'm in the exact same boat as you.  I'll probably switch sometime next year.

Offline Callie Del Noire

Re: Mobile Data Costs
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2013, 03:50:39 PM »
The MAIN reason (aside from my backdated data plan) I can't change is I use an iPhone and it is kind of a one service phone for the model I have.. ie.. there is 'one model' for ATT and one for Verizon. If I switch it will be after I completely and totally wear out my phone.

Offline Chris Brady

Re: Mobile Data Costs
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2013, 06:19:05 PM »
...the hell? This hasn't been true for three decades.

There are four wireless carriers in the US, each with their own network. Virtual operators operate off of these:
AT&T Wireless/Cingular/whatevertheycallthemselvesnow
T-Mobile
Sprint-Nextel
Verizon
All of which are owned by Bell, up here.  At least up here in Canada, they have to pay Bell for the use of their bandwidth.

Offline alextaylor

Re: Mobile Data Costs
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2013, 09:54:26 PM »
Might not even be price fixing. Telecommunications is absurdly expensive to get into so there are rarely any new competitors. The existing competitors can just charge an absurd price for a new product (like data). They know better than to engage in a price war as all of them would lose out. It's often only the new guys who crack and give in a much lower price than the others.

Malaysia's seen similar... but hey, most of us are willing to pay triple our present phone bill costs for mobile internet. There's no price fixing here, but the last time they competed on prices, text messaging costs went down to about $0.002/SMS. They've learned their lesson and won't be undercutting their competitors anytime soon.

Offline Vekseid

Re: Mobile Data Costs
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2013, 09:14:37 AM »
All of which are owned by Bell, up here.  At least up here in Canada, they have to pay Bell for the use of their bandwidth.

Paying for using someone elses network does not mean owned by.

Offline dragonsen

Re: Mobile Data Costs
« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2013, 09:39:40 PM »
I'm in the exact same boat as you.  I'll probably switch sometime next year.

My wife and I were with Spring for 8 years. When we decided to finally buckle and get smart phones, Sprint wanted to charge us an arm and a leg. We looked around and chose T-Mobile for our service. We pay about $140 a month for two phones. That gives us 1000 shared min and unlimited text and data.