I agree with pretty much every thing but this! You see... I would very much like to marry my girlfriend. I would love to have the same rights to care for the one I love as any other married couple. Saying I don't love my girl as much as that hetero couple is upsetting to me and that's why I want to change that. Because in the US church and state are supposed to be separate and keeping the law as it is is breaking that since it's clearly only a matter of church. And churches are welcome not to marry my girlfriend and I or any other homosexual couple! I will gladly go elsewhere to get married. But State officials should be required to marry those who wish to be married because it's a matter of state not religion. That's my opinion. :)
I also want to marry my girlfriend but I won't. In the UK, we can get married that is not the problem but the acceptance under some of her and my family members is just not there yet, So getting married would offend them a lot. Because we respect their opinions we will not get married yet.
But moreso, fine, this country may pass such a law, but then don't host something as big as the Olympic games with this threat hanging over potential visitors without clearly defining what actions will or won't be considered breaking said law.
The idea is that at this point, we still haven't clearly defined what will and will not lead to fines or arrests. The Russian government has not supplied a clear and concise explanation of what behaviors are defined within the law as unacceptable.
Yes, the athletes should be safe. I'm really not concerned about their safety at this point unless they specifically go looking for ways to push the law. The spectators however are a different story.
I don't really have an opinion on moving or not moving the Olympics because there isn't enough time for that to be a legitimate option, but I do think that the pressure is on Russia to define it's law as it will apply to those spectators, so that any visitors can go in knowing exactly what is or isn't allowed, thus giving lgbt attendees sufficient notice to NOT go if they feel unsafe.
Russia made a bid to host the Olympics. It was the IOC that choose the location. The law is perfectly clear for Russians so you can get the information you need by asking local tourist agencies about Russia. Inform yourself of the countries local customs and laws.
As I said, athletes and fans are perfectly safe. However....
I know there will be protest groups from gay groups around the world, because they think their 'brothers and sisters' are being opressed. These people do risk getting arrested, but that's the law.
So, in your way of thinking, it is perfectly alright for a whole group of people to be denied the right to be happy, the right to be parents, the right to love who they want, the right to have their loved ones in their hospital rooms/ER with them, the right to be able to have the person they love on their insurance, the right to be who THEY are. You believe it is perfectly alright for them to be targeted by hate groups - murdered because they are who they are. You believe it is alright to have adults shoving it down children's throats that being gay is an abomination... wrong... a sin. You believe it is just hunky dory for these same children to be isolated and made to feel that THEY are wrong and, in some case, end up killing themselves because they do not fit what has been shoved down their throats all their lives..
No. I did not say (or mean) that. I referred to a person committing a crime as serious as he did, or people who molest children or animals. They are lesser beings from me and they do not deserve the right to be happy, the right to be parents, etc.
Then they are within their rights to criticize us and pressure us to change, using your example. As I said, just because a value is entrenched in tradition would not make it immune to criticism and international pressure. If someone could factually and morally argue good reasons for the USA to go vegetarian, then I see no problem with that. But it would need to be concrete proof. It might or might not work, but they could give it a go.
I am not advocating for Americans to be the moral police of the world. I am advocating that any country has the right to criticize another country's law and put some pressure on it to change, if that law has no factual and moral basis for it's existence....and I believe Russian law about gay propaganda does not have that basis. Will it necessarily provoke another country to change, that criticism and pressure? Maybe....or maybe not. But simply saying that one culture does not have the right to criticize another culture simply because the people they are criticizing are another culture is not right. No culture should have that type of immunity from criticism....and that goes for American culture as well.
EDIT: Added a sentence.
Everybody has the right to criticize. Criticize all you want but as I said before, isn't it much wiser to spend your energy in trying to change things you actually can? Rather than trying to change 230 million Russians and a couple billion Catholics and Muslims.
That aside, In this case, the Americans aren't really pushing their culture onto Russia but one might see why people in Russia think or feel that way. Who had the loudest opinion AGAINST communism and the USSR? Which was the first non Russian television station in Russia after the perestroika? Fact is that the history of the two nations still prevails and tentions are still high and a lot of Russians are still weary for the Americans. So the louder the Americans speak out against this law, the more the Russian people will feel it's the right thing to do.
From a purely personal standpoint, I do hope Russia will evolve in its thinking over time, but that will come only if the Russian people choose to evolve in their thinking (and that is something they have the autonomy to decide either way). For us to act as an external agent telling the Russian people what to think is purely an ideological endeavor. Laws can be overturned, and new legislation can be written - but for deeply-ingrained prejudices to change, requires personal insight.
It will. Give it a year or ten and Russia's acceptance towards minorities will get higher and as Valthazar said, it's a process that Russia has to go through. Outside pressure from whatever nation will only work against that. It may have worked in smaller countries like South Africa but given the history of Russia and the present day way of ruling Russia and the more pressure, especially the US, will put on Russia, the longer it will take.
Take with that the fact that Europe is for more than 60% dependable on Russian gas, European countries have to be extremely carefull as Russia has proven to have no problems in closing the valves. Russia's international power is too great to pressure them and unfortunately, Putin knows that.