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Re: Anthony Weiner Controversy - Perspective of Roleplayers
« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2013, 01:43:40 PM »
... Jay Leno must be having fun, too.  (For those who don't know, Jay's been doing this thing for years involving 'unfortunate' headlines or headline placement.)

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Re: Anthony Weiner Controversy - Perspective of Roleplayers
« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2013, 01:54:21 AM »

This is just mud slinging.

To dig a little deeper, I think a lot of people are just uncomfortable talking about sex. Throwing him under the spotlight and pointing the finger at him for his sexual expression is kind of cowardly, if you ask me.

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Re: Anthony Weiner Controversy - Perspective of Roleplayers
« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2013, 01:19:08 PM »
From what I can tell, this should be a non-issue.  What he decides to do with his private life is generally none of our business.  I can see a few exceptions though: if he was using his position as part of his "online dating", for instance, and promising things that he can't do, then I'd have an issue with it.  Same if it was something illegal, or without consent of his partners.  Without knowing more about that however, it's pretty much impossible to say.  (And I'm willing to bet that the people "coming forward" about it are perfectly fine with lying about everything to look good, so they're hardly a reliable source.)

I would also take serious offense if he were taking a position that directly conflicts with his activities - someone mentioned if he was one of the people pushing for "defense of marriage" crap.  If he was doing that and also going around with all of this, I'd definitely speak out against him.  The CNN article linked by Valthazar only confuses me though, since as far as I can tell there's no real problem or disconnect between his political stance and his private life.

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Re: Anthony Weiner Controversy - Perspective of Roleplayers
« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2013, 01:28:51 PM »
The only thing I see that he did was he showed he had human needs and actions. The media loves leaders with 'feet of clay'. A lot of talented men and women who could do a LOT of good but were judged soley on their social foibles.

An example.. I say Gary Hart..what do you recall? His affair with Jennifer Flowers. Not the fact that he was on the Hart–Rudman Commission, which offered a LOT of security decisions that could have done a lot to security measures if they had been implemented prior to 9/11. He's a very knowledgeable man in the intelligence and military issues. He'd be a great Director of National Defense, Secretary of Defense or State. But he'll never be nominated.

And he is only one of dozens of men and women in like situations.

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Re: Anthony Weiner Controversy - Perspective of Roleplayers
« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2013, 01:43:41 PM »
An example.. I say Gary Hart..what do you recall? His affair with Jennifer Flowers.

Actually, I recall Gary Hart's affair with Donna Rice, not Gennifer Flowers. Gennifer was Bill Clinton's alleged paramour. But your point is correct. 

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Re: Anthony Weiner Controversy - Perspective of Roleplayers
« Reply #30 on: August 02, 2013, 11:56:52 AM »
Actually, I recall Gary Hart's affair with Donna Rice, not Gennifer Flowers. Gennifer was Bill Clinton's alleged paramour. But your point is correct.

Thank you Torch. I always get those two women crosswired for some reason.

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Re: Anthony Weiner Controversy - Perspective of Roleplayers
« Reply #31 on: August 02, 2013, 12:05:51 PM »
Thank you Torch. I always get those two women crosswired for some reason.

They do all seem to blend together after a while. :-)

Your point about Hart is a good one, though. I know he's become a very well respected security consultant since leaving the Senate. But all anyone remembers about him is that photo on the yacht with Ms. Rice on his lap.  ::)

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Re: Anthony Weiner Controversy - Perspective of Roleplayers
« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2013, 01:29:33 PM »
They do all seem to blend together after a while. :-)

Your point about Hart is a good one, though. I know he's become a very well respected security consultant since leaving the Senate. But all anyone remembers about him is that photo on the yacht with Ms. Rice on his lap.  ::)

He's a smart man. I think he'd be a good choice.. but the whole 'feet of clay' crap won't let go. I think it is funny that you can be a 'marriage is sacred' tool like Newt Gingrich, who actually pushed for divorce while she was in the hospital being treated for cancer, while folks like Hart are irrevocably stained by one affair.

It's annoying and irksome. Some men simply slide thru while others get hammered, even decades after. I guess being a lying facetious hypocrite is required over honestly admitting you did something. Whereas you can be a multi-affair, bed hopping tool with a history of bad mouthing/trashing your wives when you trade them in and expect them to crawl into a hole and vanish when you trade them in for the next model down.

My understanding is that Gary Hart is still married to Lee Hart, the wife he cheated on back in the day. So, clearly he learned from his mistakes.  I've read some of his articles on the political situation overseas and he's always struck me as smarter than the idiots (on both sides) we have running for the White House today.

He strikes me as about as sharp and savvy as men like John Huntsman.

Shame that neither will never make it into the white house where they can do good.

Back to the person the OP is dealing with.. Anthony Weiner seems to have.. well some impulse control issues but has learned to handle them, as far as I can see he's never abused his political position/office in these encounters and the only person that was really hurt by them would be mostly himself and his spouse. He was abrasive, running through three chiefs of staff in 18 months, and ran his people hard. He had a mixed record but not too bad or good overall.

I think what keeps them media coming back is his name. Cause..damn.. it practically draws your eye when you see it.

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Re: Anthony Weiner Controversy - Perspective of Roleplayers
« Reply #33 on: August 02, 2013, 01:38:37 PM »
My understanding is that Gary Hart is still married to Lee Hart, the wife he cheated on back in the day. So, clearly he learned from his mistakes.  I've read some of his articles on the political situation overseas and he's always struck me as smarter than the idiots (on both sides) we have running for the White House today.

He strikes me as about as sharp and savvy as men like John Huntsman.

Shame that neither will never make it into the white house where they can do good.

I wouldn't count Hart out on the 'doing some good' count just yet.  He started this in 2007, and is still quite outspoken.

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I think what keeps them media coming back is his name. Cause..damn.. it practically draws your eye when you see it.

Yeah... Some names just make the satirist's job too easy.

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Re: Anthony Weiner Controversy - Perspective of Roleplayers
« Reply #34 on: August 21, 2013, 03:18:19 AM »
Quoted for truth.   

It could have been worse, though.  He could have been this guy.


LOL omg how the heck did you find this!?!?!?!?!?

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Re: Anthony Weiner Controversy - Perspective of Roleplayers
« Reply #35 on: August 21, 2013, 03:53:26 AM »
Actually, I recall Gary Hart's affair with Donna Rice, not Gennifer Flowers. Gennifer was Bill Clinton's alleged paramour. But your point is correct.

Imagine the amount of mudslinging that would occur if Hillary Clinton were now found - or alleged - to have been involved with someone other than Bill for a while during her senate years. *sighs*

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Re: Anthony Weiner Controversy - Perspective of Roleplayers
« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2013, 08:31:10 AM »

LOL omg how the heck did you find this!?!?!?!?!?

Probably a link off to the side of some other weird crime story.  Stumbled across it recently enough to remember it when it was pithy.  Secret of my success. ^__^