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Offline CyclopsTopic starter

SSL for added Privacy
« on: June 13, 2008, 02:04:08 AM »
I post things here that I don't really want intercepted, knowing what I do 'bout the net and how many here may use WiFi (as I do), public WiFi being what it is, cell network traffic being what it is when posting from a mobile.  Is there a way to use SSL?

The added layer would also add protection to usenames/passwords sent in the clear on a public wifi network or even a private network used in a hotel, or a dorm facility where hundreds of people are on the same network subnet and thus able to make creative use of packet sniffers.

Just a question.  Adding an "s" to http (https://), it throws an invalid domain error.  The domain doesn't match the cert.

Offline Vekseid

Re: SSL for added Privacy
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2008, 03:48:04 AM »
If someone wants to drop a few hundred for a cert...

Offline CyclopsTopic starter

Re: SSL for added Privacy
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2008, 03:52:09 AM »
If someone wants to drop a few hundred for a cert...

Could do the same thing, if a private cert I suppose, but that is a good point - I forgot how much it cost for a cert.

Who is your hosting/domain provider?

Offline Vekseid

Re: SSL for added Privacy
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2008, 03:54:34 AM »
Acceleratedweb, though I'm thinking about moving.

If donations pick back up and people want it enough, I'll happily spring for one.

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Re: SSL for added Privacy
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2008, 07:10:18 PM »
How much would it cost?  And how far from breaking even is E currently?

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Re: SSL for added Privacy
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2008, 06:34:30 PM »
Is that not public information?

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Re: SSL for added Privacy
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2008, 06:55:18 PM »
Sorry, missed this! Feel free to point me to threads. Elliquiy is doing a lot better than breaking even, though in terms of accounts it's still about $800 short of what I've spent on it. We're going to have to move to a dedicated server by the end of the year, however... which is quite a pretty penny, though it allows for lots of cool things.

Certificates cost between a few hundred and a few thousand a year, depending, but we really don't need them to be 'official', I just need to set up the secure part of the website (which is hopefully easier to do than I thought, will try to get to it shortly).

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Re: SSL for added Privacy
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2008, 07:47:06 PM »
Good heavens, I thought you said it was about $200 a year as it is now?

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Re: SSL for added Privacy
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2008, 07:54:07 PM »
Right now we're not paying for any certificate, and the secure site feature here seems to be disabled : /

I'll probably hold on this until we move to a dedicated host.

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Re: SSL for added Privacy
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2008, 08:03:47 PM »
OK... but that didn't really answer my question :)

Offline Vekseid

Re: SSL for added Privacy
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2008, 09:19:01 PM »
I have no idea where you got that figure from, so I'm not sure how to answer it :-p

Depending on type, a security certificate runs from $150 to $1,100 or so a year, I think Thawte would charge us $250 a year for one.

Running Elliquiy on a dedicated server will cost between $80 a month and ~$200 a month, depending on desired features, how much we want to invest in stability, and so on. Right now Elliquiy costs about $650 a year to run.

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Re: SSL for added Privacy
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2008, 08:27:12 AM »
Thank you :)

Offline CyclopsTopic starter

Re: SSL for added Privacy
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2008, 12:55:12 PM »
Right now we're not paying for any certificate, and the secure site feature here seems to be disabled : /

I'll probably hold on this until we move to a dedicated host.

Well, on a linux server you can create your own cert.  It won't be signed by a root cert but that doesn't matter if you post the fingerprint of it.  The cert can be used by those on E who want to but those who want to can check the cert themselves to check the fingerprint.  Like using a PGP key and the web of trust kinda.

If you want any help there, let me know, I am not an expert but I am knowledgeable in computer security.

Offline Vekseid

Re: SSL for added Privacy
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2008, 06:55:06 PM »
That's not the issue, the problem is the ssl directory can't be read by the webserver, I'll have to contact them to figure it out.

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Re: SSL for added Privacy
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2008, 09:38:20 PM »
I just thought I'd offer. :)