I have kept quiet for a long while after pointing out my own personal experiences in the military. I haven't seen a lot of rape by violence.. but a whole lot of date rape/rape with alcohol involved. I find it interesting the parallels between bullying and rape. Similar behaviors with a similar root ties. A lot to think on. The comments on what and when we should be educating our kids to stifle both were something to think on. All in all, a lot to think on. I've said my thoughts on the offenders list and what it needs to be reformed on. Too often it's being used as a weapon to get pleas rather than protecting the innocent.
In the end though..my outlook on the Steubenville Rapists hasn't changed. These kids raped a girl who was so totally out of it..she didn't recall ANY of it. They put her degradation up on social media, violated her repeatedly, and generally used her as a toy/trashcan rather than a human being. When I was their age, I went to a party with a bunch of friends, and during the night we found one of the girls passed out in the woods outside dead drunk. We put her in the recliner by the fire inside the cabin, took turns watching her while we had beers, drank PJ and generally did stupid teenager shit. We also were generally more human than the kids as we put a blanket over her as the fire burned down, kept a bottle of water for her when she woke up, and got two of the girls in the core group to walk her to the bathroom to be sick and help clean her up after. We weren't jocks and star athletes, we were a trio of geeks, a couple of metalheads, and two stoner guys. We were also basically fucking human. Of the eight of us that took time out of having a good time looking after the girl, five of us have kids, one died in service to our country, and the rest of are normal folks who haven't found the right person yet.
Those boys, and the ones who LET it happen, aren't worth the time to think on their 'destroyed' life. What if the girl had gotten pregnant? Or god forbid she'd gotten sick from alcohol poisoning or choked on her vomit. Would they have done the right thing and taken responsibility of her.. or seen her way to the hospital.
I shall shed no tears for them. My sympathy and empathy are for the victim. I got a lot of issues, pro and con, on the issue of rape.. but this seems fairly clean cut. The fucking media needs to stop pitying these boys and wonder what scars they left on the girl.