Spartacus: War of the Damned (Started, Romans needed)

[bubby]

Last I saw there were 4 men and two women on the roman side.  Your char would make it number three, but from what you wrote, you plan on having her spend more of her time as a slave to the rebels.

Also, if you want to make a player feel wanted, try not to publicly swoon over other characters.

My dear, the first maybe third to half of this group role play would have my character in the Roman Followers camp. The main basis of my character is the fact that she is roman. She will also be doing some reconnisense for the romans once she is captured by the rebels. So there would still be more opportunities to be saved and other such.

Just because I swoon over one character or another Kckolbe does not mean I want to make you feel unwanted. Im deeply sorry if I made you upset, but truthfully, I joined the group roleplay because I enjoyed all the character sheets that I had read upon looking at the thread.

Once again..im really sorry if I upset you...

GM NOTICE

Not everyone will get along. Not everyone will want to interact with every char. THEY DO NOT NEED TO NOR ARE OBLIGATED TO. Kckolbe, your comment was uncalled for. With that being said, if you want to exit the game because you feel slighted in some manner, we of course will not stop you. We would like for you to stay, but I won't deal with any sort of OOC drama.


ALSO: Let's go ahead and move things over to the game OOC gang, and leave this thread for potential players! Don't want to fill it up too much!

[kckolbe]

I am leaving the game, yes.  I did not threaten to.  I stated that I was leaving.  My comments were entirely valid.  You are the one who made unnecessary comments, "flaming" me after I left.  I have been very discreet with problems throughout this process, having PMed you, Primarch and RubySlippers over past concerns.

Upon deciding to leave, I listed the reasons for my departure, targeting no one in particular.  When Karia attempted to publicly guilt me into staying (which was also uncalled for), you said nothing to her, and I responded accordingly.

Again, I am leaving.  If you wish to discuss any of these issues further, I request that it be done in PMs with an admin ccd.

[bubby]

IC threads are up! The game is now official. ROMANS NEEDED, MALE AND FEMALE!

[RubySlippers]

No links to the game?

[bubby]

In the OOC Ruby

[Primarch]

No links to the game?

Rebel thread: https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=165285.0
Roman thread: https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=165286.0

[Viper]

Posted up in the roman camp!!

[bubby]

WE NEED ROMANS!!!

[bubby]

Just a bit of inspiration...

[ebpohmr]

Should totally have made a Roman... Although after watching Life of Brian recently, I'd be far too tempted to try and call him Biggus Dickus...

[Imogen]

I'm interested in playing Tigurius son if that character is still free?

[Viper]

Yes! please come join us! Tigurius's son's slot is still open!

[ebpohmr]

Tigurius's son's slot

There's a part of me that feels a little sorry for the female slave who is so dehumanised that THAT is how she is referred to... Or was it not an euphemism? *looks innocent*

[Viper]

Oh haha, very funny. Picking on my way of writing now are yeh? Them's be fighting words yeh know!

*smiles* just kidding ^.^

[Vassus]

OK, I commented a while ago, and I'm back! I'm either considering making my own character, or filling in for the needed role of "Son of Tigurius", unless someone is already working on that, and I missed it. Any specifications on that point?

[Imogen]

I'm currently working on a char sheet for the son's role, but if you were first, Vassus, I apologize. I didn't mean to steal your char By all means, go for it.

[bubby]

Just in case people are wondering, it's been a bit of a slow start, but we're still going!

[Madriv]

Any chance of rebooting the Roman camp? I could drag Lucius over -from elsewhere-  and let him win friends, er,  make a shitload of enemies  serve the Empire in the manner to which he has become accustomed.

[Kristen]

I'm enjoying this show much more than I thought I would lol...

I don't know if this is the appropriate thread to discuss potentially creating a character (Roman needed apparently) :-P

- Kristen -

[bubby]

Any chance of rebooting the Roman camp? I could drag Lucius over -from elsewhere-  and let him win friends, er,  make a shitload of enemies  serve the Empire in the manner to which he has become accustomed.

Primarch has actually vbrought that to my attention, and I think it's what he has planned babe. I say have at it!

I'm enjoying this show much more than I thought I would lol...

I don't know if this is the appropriate thread to discuss potentially creating a character (Roman needed apparently) :-P

- Kristen -

Yes and yes!

[Kristen]

I'll admit I haven't read all pages yet but I'm thinking of playing a Marc Antony character that could transfer over haha. Since Starz has taken liberties with totally butchering my historic view of Caesar, I can allot myself the privilege of playing with Marc Antony and provide some redemption perhaps lol.

I mean really... If Caesar's not yet on his campaign then I see absolutely no problem with Marc Antony not yet being otherwise engaged ;-)

But do let me know if you guys would prefer not haha. For all I know... maybe someone else is already playing Marc Antony. I have no idea. (In some ways... Marc Antony could be considered relatively young at this stage. Still... fun fun fun :-s

- Kristen -

[bubby]

I'll admit I haven't read all pages yet but I'm thinking of playing a Marc Antony character that could transfer over haha. Since Starz has taken liberties with totally butchering my historic view of Caesar, I can allot myself the privilege of playing with Marc Antony and provide some redemption perhaps lol.

I mean really... If Caesar's not yet on his campaign then I see absolutely no problem with Marc Antony not yet being otherwise engaged ;-)

But do let me know if you guys would prefer not haha. For all I know... maybe someone else is already playing Marc Antony. I have no idea. (In some ways... Marc Antony could be considered relatively young at this stage. Still... fun fun fun :-s

- Kristen -

As long as you remember that all the chars in this game are OC's, basing your char off your particular view of Marc Antony would be fine! The only thing we're sticking to show wise is the actual setting and slight timeline, as we thought it gave us a good basis for a story line beginning.

I'm not worrying about us being sticklers on actual history. This RP is meant to be fun, not historically accurate!   

[Kristen]

Alright... here's a first attempt hehe.

Name: Mark Antony

Faction: Romans

Position Head of his Cavalry division.

Nationality: Central Roman

Appearance:







Personality: Mark Antony is young, cocky, confident and legitimately has a strong sense of superiority over those he views to be beneath the heal of Rome. He does have a strong disdain for 'men in white cloaks' or the 'senators' of Rome who he views to be Rome's largest liability despite also being it's greatest asset. It's what the people want... and thus they must have it as a Rome without Governance just won't do. That being said... he is not one to keenly enjoy the company of a a handful of senators nearly as much as he would enjoy a dining session with a handful of his own cavalry units.

Mark Antony is outspoken, but rather defiant. He is one to use alot of sarcasm and flash in the way he communicates with others.


Equipment: Typical Roman gear. As he is a cavalry unit, he generally carries his shield with the force's roaming equipment. He'd much sooner ride without it to be honest. Still... policy is policy and one never knows when their horse will be struck down, ne? 

Skills: Mark Antony has received exceptional standing as an officer of elite cavalry, though his initial training had been in infantry. Mark Antony's greatest skill is the ability to motivate his fellow soldiers. It is a trait that inevitably leads him to become extremely impressed with another such inspirational figure who need not be named in the near future. Romans were typically shorter men than their adversaries. Everything about their training was conditioned not to promote individual excellence, but rather cohesiveness of a unit.

Roman soldiers often clustered together forming structured advances with their shields and striking, poking with their upward arched swords like teeth. Much like their Greek adversaries who loved to use the 'Phalanx' system which included a wall of spears, up to 5 layers of spear-heads held outright while marching forward (The goal was to form a pin-cushion type advance. They would literally mow down enemies who stood in front of them.) Romans counted on structure and planned formations. Romans held more impressive shields... heavier... larger in mass. They worked as a unit to invite charges from vastly outnumbering enemies to strike against their walls of shields, and then through small gaps, they would slice outward with their blades at will.

Such tactics allowed the Romans to devastate rebellious tribes composed of much taller and more 'formidable' men who outnumbered them greatly. In close quarters, Romans were trained to teach their adversaries the very same lesson the Greeks felt compelled to teach the Persians. Despite this technique ensuring that the Romans often killed north of 6-10 rebellious tribal soldiers for every 1 Roman who was killed or wounded (in most cases)... the Romans did not have much success in trapping their enemies. In order to make themselves defensible and ensure they could kill large numbers of enemies who attacked them, the Romans did not focus on spreading their forces unless they had a huge advantage in numbers.

Roman victories were often announced by the retreat of adversaries and not the systemic killing of thousands of 'trapped' soldiers. Rome, like the Greeks when facing greater odds compacted their forces... used depth of formation to make themselves unbeatable by the larger force, then let the larger force crash on them in wave after wave of flesh and bone. These were called 'battle pulses'. Two sides lined up... when neither side moved, eventually the attackers were forced to charge.

Charging resulted in crashing against a wall of Roman shields that would not move... the sheer mass of bodies piled in against those shields trying to force the Romans back or overpower their structure resulted in a stalemate. When the typically larger Roman shields held... like teeth... the small Roman blades would seep out from the small barely noticeable gaps between the shields. They would strike, slice, poke and tear at the flesh of those pressed against them. Confusion was a result and eventually... the overall mass of bodies pressed against the Roman wall had to take several steps back and prepare for another charge.

The Romans would wait... use their system to make every enemy charge cost them more and more lives. Eventually... every time a charge ended and they had to back up again... the number of wounded that couldn't withdraw grew. Soon there would be large numbers of crying, begging, pleading rebel forces pleading to be allowed to die or begging that someone come and take them back for medical attention. As with the Greeks and Persians... often times the outnumbering rebels would have to send in soldiers to clear the dead and dying out of the way just so that they could try to charge again.

So skill... discipline. Mark Antony is trained in the way of war. His personal skill is a result of competitive spirit and no bloodlust whatsoever. He is great with his sword and shield... but he is naturally born to ride on his horse and lead the bulky Roman Cavalry squad into certain parts of combat. He is an expert huntsman.

Backstory: For this I can take some time to come up with something but I am considering a little younger Antony, just prior to working with Caesar. I would have him lead a division of cavalry and not be a 2nd in command for any large unit of men etc. While he is fully capable of fighting in an infantry line if necessary... Mark Antony has made a name for himself with his expert use of his cavalry division.

Cavalry is not something Rome generally specialized in. Generally they used light Cavalry as policing forces. It was only when meeting enemies in the far east that heavy Cavalry were seen in action. Large Cataphracts... heavily armored horses that matched the heavily armored men wearing them... traveling by number of more than a hundred in a group... this was an impact charge. This was something Rome had not seen... and had been devastated by in many battles.

Mark Antony... a stern student of Cavalry warfare has quickly made a name for himself by turning the tide of almost every battle he's involved in. Much like Alexander the great, Mark Antony refuses to get stuck in to a large battle. He uses his cavalry to examine the battlefield... charge... fall back... examine again... find another point, one where the enemy infantry are thinned out and vulnerable... then charge again. Often... a single series of charges is enough to turn the entire tide of a battle. One group of men turning to flee in panic often results in mass panic.

Mark Antony is proud of an astonishing statistic. In almost every battle... more men are killed in the fleeing stage than on the fighting stage. Oh yes... There is a very thin line between a tactical withdrawal, and an all out retreat. In an all out retreat, structure goes out the window. The army that is retreating is now composed of every man trying to get away from the enemy. At times like this, an enemy's charge after them results in killing more and more men without really having to worry about losing any of their own (Unless you're unlucky enough to trip or run into someone who is fleeing and somehow luckily catches you off guard).

Mark Antony is known for being the dagger that starts the slow poison. After he charges... there's panic. Panic leads to a route... and the route leads to every man for himself while the Roman line breaks to pursue and Mark Antony himself with his cavalry also continue to ride down those fleeing on foot. At this point... killing the retreating army is all too easy... in order to gain speed, they drop their shields, they drop their spears. It's no longer about protection, it's about fleeing. Without a structured defense... there's nothing to stop the wounded, winded or otherwise tired from being picked off in the run. The discipline folds up and without everyone working together to keep a line in place, a few men here or there standing to fight will simply be bulldozed given that everyone else has fleeing on the mind.

And of course... the more people that fall to this charge... the more panic is instilled. The more speed is amplified. Get the hell out of here. There is yelling, screaming... frustration... but there is no signal that can be given to make everyone turn around at once and catch the chasing army by surprise (unless this is part of a pre-made plan all along).

In addition to battles themselves... Mark Antony and his cavalry are often recruited to track down runaway slaves of high note. They provide escort services for high ranking individuals and hunt down whatever targets are presented to them for a bounty should they choose to accept it.

[Kristen]

As long as you remember that all the chars in this game are OC's, basing your char off your particular view of Marc Antony would be fine! The only thing we're sticking to show wise is the actual setting and slight timeline, as we thought it gave us a good basis for a story line beginning.

I'm not worrying about us being sticklers on actual history. This RP is meant to be fun, not historically accurate!   

Sorry... I was doing up my char sheet while this was posted. If you want, I can change his name. What I did was really just reshape him based on what I think Mark Antony would be like at this particular time frame in the story haha.

Similarly... alot of Mark Antony's history fits real well with this type of story I think. Alot of people mocked Mark Antony's battle (with Cleopatra's navy as he faced off against Caesar's nephew Octavian on the sea) as a 'cavalry' charge. Like a cavalry charge, he ordered his ship to sail forward, he sent the signal that Cleopatra's ships were to follow him and charge into the lines of Rome's ships (Under Octavian) as though he were leading men on horseback.

Of course, his ship was faster than the others, he ended up getting much closer to Octavian's ships much sooner than the rest of Cleopatra's ships could. Octavian... a bit more of an intellectual simply had his ships re-position themselves, turn about and adjust their weaponry and they were simply able to bombard Antony's vessels with astonishing ease lol. Egypt sunk (haha... wow pun not intended) a fortune into creating this navy and Octavian dismantled it within hours.

I also wonder if in this type of RP... Mark Antony 'the hunter' or 'slave tracker' might make more sense as a fitting role for what you guys have in mind. I'm sure there may be battles and such, but in terms of side stories or separate events occurring, he might make more sense as a hunter looking to profit from bounty offerings with his exceptional cavalry veterans than simply saying he's leading 'thousands of men' that are going to fight every so many posts hehe.

Let me know what you think. If there are any changes needed, I think you know I'm flexible hehe...

- Kristen -

[bubby]

First, I would say yes indeed, change the name darlin'. Remember, Original characters.

As for the rest, I'll leave it up to the Big Boss Primarch, especially since he's generally the kahuna of the Roman side.