Right. Demanding fiscal responsibility, and leaving your Rally locations cleaner than they were when you found them now makes you equivalant to the child-beheading Taliban. Truly, your conservatism astounds sir.
Your voting history is all very intriguing...and utterly irrelevant to what we were discussing(granted, my style of discussion is a tad colorful, but it was discussion nonetheless). Since you appear to have completely abandoned that discussion, shall I assume you've conceded the point? Or at least been given something to chew on and consider?
Well let's see..
I was raised to see Republicans as people who supported..
-Fiscal responsible government. Sometimes that means smaller government, sometimes that means more taxes.
-A prohibitive military.. (Haven't seen one of those since Reagan took office)
-Common sense government.
-Some of the social programs of the last century worked (Medicare, Social Security) but others haven't.
-Free Market Capitalism. (The republicans I grew up listening to wouldn't have tried to regulate copyrights to the point where it is a LAW that musicians are now considered 'on pay' contractors by law..)
The stuff I've seen the Tea Party do...
"I must confess that anytime I see someone with an Obama bumper sticker, I see them as a danger to the gene pool'" Your man Allan West.
-Constant revisionism of history. They have misrepresented the founding fathers, Reagan and others. No one who looks can ever say that Ronnie was 'anti-tax' or 'small government'. He increased taxes on the rich (including estate taxes) something like eight times in his first term.
Now let's look at some of the tenants of the Tea party
-Ideologically opposed to any compromise. Ever.
-Pushing for literal/textual literalism on the constitution and in religious belief.
-Insistence that the US was founded to be a Christian nation (It wasn't.. Adams and Jefferson both had much to say to that point as did other founding fathers. They all recalled the mess that came out of the conflicts between Protestant/Catholic clashes in England and Europe.)
-Denial of science, a refusal to accept facts even when it is self-evident they are wrong.
-The willingness to vilify anyone who is wiling to be a coalition builder (look at how they jumped on Gov Chris Christie of NJ after he praised the President for his fast actions and mauled the House for dragging their feet on the relief efforts.. the same thing LOTS of them did when they rose up after Katrina.)
-An insistence, despite their 'smaller government' to further regulate women's reproductive health. Do you know in one state it is, thanks to a person hood law, legal to consider a woman pregnant from onset of her first period to menopause.
-A refusal to debate, discuss or correct any law or bill they put forward and an unwillingness to discuss or approve any bill that their 'rivals' put forward. More bipartisan and democratic sponsored bills died on the house floor in the last session than any other time in congressional history. If the bill sponsor has a -D on the end of his/her name.. it's dead. End of story.
Tea Party Candidates have called for the repeal/destruction/removal of the 13th, 14th and 17th amendments. Immigration laws in republican states have gotten to the point that I worry for my niece.. because her mother's maiden name is Garcia. (she favors her mother's family). Ironically the Garcia's have been American as long as Texas has been part of the Union. Something that can't be said about some of the folks who put forth these atrocities.
They punish Hispanics over any other ethnic group in immigration, they seek to regulate reproductive issues to the point that in some areas the laws are so harshly written that they would potentially make the birth control pill illegal as well as any other method of birth control. I am waiting for something like the girl suffering from leukemia (Dominican Republic I believe) or the poor woman in Ireland here in the US. Condemned to die painfully because the law restricts doctors from saving their lives because they are pregnant, event when it is clear the fetus will not survive.
I worry when any group so blithely wants to do away with due process, the right to citizenship and even removing domestic liberties to ensure they can stay in power. Revising what is, and isn't, American by one groups definition is dangerous. Removing the right to assemble, the right to a transparent government, restricting free speech, and the right to a fast and fair trial. These are a few of the rights they see as 'unneeded.'.
Do you realize that the laws the Tea Party has put in place to prevent counter protests in places like Wisconsin, Michigan, New York and elsewhere would have made THEIR protests in those same places in 2008 illegal? That's right.. now that they are in power.. it's wrong to want to see an 'open government' or even tape it in some state houses.
I think Trieste said a few months back.. that a family of six in Wisconsin at the statehouse is TECHNICALLY a demonstration now. (If I am wrong.. let me know Trieste)
The Tea Party isn't about liberty..except for them.
The Tea Party isn't about Justice.. except for them..
The Tea Party in another time and place.. would have worn brown shirts or carried little 'party membership' cards.
I don't judge by rhetoric.. I judge by statements and actions.
And by that rubric..the Tea Party has strayed a long way from their origins. Any group that goes to the lengths they have to surpress rivals, disenfranchise voters, hide the process of public government and role back 100+ years worth of public safety laws aren't out for the public good.