First, since I am not your friend, your use of the term is condescending. Please don't do it again.
Second, I have no illusions about clerics being better than anyone else, and don't know how you could possibly have gotten that from my post.
Third, my outrage is not fueled by expectations of better behavior from clerics. Rather, it is fueled by the special brand of arrogance and cruelty displayed by those who presume to proclaim god's judgment on homosexuals.
Fourth, I get plenty "hyped up" about the bad behavior of politicians, too. But, this is a thread about Mormon church doctrine on homosexuality.
I didn't mean it as condescending, and I apologize since it came out as such.
You didn't say it outright, but you presented the idea that self preservation being the highest goal of churches as being something surprising, something that one wouldn't expect from someone that is somehow supposed to be better than the next guy... that was how I read it, anyway.
Your outrage is misplaced. Everyone is arrogant when presenting points that they perceive themselves to be more knowledgeable in, is you yourself demonstrated in your 'outrage'. Everyone has the right to believe as they wish, and selectivity of certain groups, while deplorable, is nothing new, presented in men's clubs, women meetings, etc.(The precise names are a bit vague, sorry). If homosexuals are not accepted in a certain church, while that is an outrage, I know of no reason why they don't just leave that church, in favor of one that accepts them without discrimination. If they really feel the need to change the church, don't sensationalize it. Bring it to the proper authorities.
I apologize for having strayed from the topic of this thread.
It's not just Ireland.. I use it because I am following it. You got a LOT of Europe following, America and even in the 'strong holds' of South America..their abuses and rigid standing on specific issues and tendacy to cover up their mistakes rather than clean house are starting to have an effect. You got molesting priests being sent down to South America now.. three decades from now? The 'stronghold' nations of the Catholic faith might not be so kind towards them.
Clashes between Catholic Doctrine and the people of those nations are already starting. Excommunicating a doctor for saving a little girl's life from a failed pregnancy while supporting the molesting step father?
The problem with that is that stories such as these rarely, if ever, make it to the front pages of newspapers and the television, where they belong, due to the fact that many of the news agencies around here are very tightly held by the Catholic Church, which slows down the process considerably.