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Offline BlackestKnightTopic starter

It's like sex is an after thought in most of these games, I like a good sci fi fantasy game as much as anyone else, but it seems like people aren't really giving too much thought into the actual sex portion of their games. A lot of games are just not sexy, someone needs to bring the sexy back. That's just my .02$

« Last Edit: October 12, 2012, 11:34:44 AM by BlackestKnight »

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Re: Anyone else a bit dissapointed in the lack of roleplays about sex?
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2012, 11:39:14 AM »
Elliquiy is a literary site that supports adult content.  To most of us adult content includes sex but isn't just sex.  I'm sure if you put your desires out there in a request thread you'll find some partners who are willing. 

We have writers of all sorts.  Just be respectful. ;D

Offline alxnjsh

Re: Anyone else a bit dissapointed in the lack of roleplays about sex?
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2012, 08:28:50 PM »
Might be an interesting conversation for the On Topic board. Actually, I'm pretty sure I've seen that thread somewhere in this place ;)

Online Thufir Hawat

Re: Anyone else a bit dissapointed in the lack of roleplays about sex?
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2012, 03:57:31 AM »
It's like sex is an after thought in most of these games
Yes, I strive to achieve this in my own games ;D! So, why would that be a problem?

I'll back Beguile's Misstress (>:)), you just need to find partners that want the same from a game.

Offline rick957

Re: Anyone else a bit dissapointed in the lack of roleplays about sex?
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2012, 04:39:57 AM »
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Re: Anyone else a bit dissapointed in the lack of roleplays about sex?

Short answer:  hell yes.  ;) 

Sorry, I'm an overly-opinionated and verbose mofo who likes to prattle and act silly, and you've raised what I think is a fascinating topic, so I'm going to share my thoughts about it, but please be aware that I'm going to be blunt, i.e., please stop reading if you take offense frequently or easily.  (I feel the need to insert this caveat because I say things sometimes that bother people when I don't even mean to do so.)

Okay, sex in Elliquiy RPs.  There's too little of it, IMO.  Why is that?  Does anyone know?  Here are my theories, which may be totally wrong, because I have no special knowledge whatsoever.

I ran a modern-day suspense/espionage group game at Elliquiy that lasted for over a year, I think, and I assumed that everyone in it wanted to write sex scenes as often as possible, so I kept creating what I thought were viable opportunities for just that.  Nobody had sex.  All the characters were incredible studmuffins or supervixens, and they all sat around talking to each other and thinking things to themselves, when they could have been fucking.  :)

Eventually I tried to do a sex scene myself using one of my own characters, because it sure seemed like the thing to do.  It went poorly -- actually it went really well, because the other player was a great writer, except -- there was almost no sex in it!  I don't know why, honest; we tried, both of us.

Later on I moved the entire game into a whorehouse setting.  Seriously.  Know why I did that?  You guessed it, because I figured it would make it even easier and more obvious for people to fuck the shit out of each other.  :)  I created opportunities within the whorehouse for all kinds of kinky BDSM and voyeurism and exhibitionism and non-con and gangbanging.  Almost none of that happened, especially if you subtract the scenes I participated in myself.

Our game always had about an even number of male and female players who were either straight or bi in their sexual preferences, so that wasn't the problem.  All incredibly gifted writers; you can check and see.  And again, every single character in the game except for some of mine (as the GM) were hotter than hell (based on their char pics).  The game lasted for over a year, and I only recall two relatively-short sex scenes that reached a mutual completion.

Hehehehe I suppose I'm just pointing all this out to suggest that BlackestKnight really has a good point that might be worth further discussion from anyone else interested in seeing more sexual content on the boards.  It seems rare to me, too, and I don't know why that is, or what can (or ought) to be done about it (maybe nothing, I dunno).

One more little thing and I'll go.  (Oh, and sorry if I've been too blunt here for anyone's tastes; I'm making an honest effort to be lighthearted and friendly and totally non-offensive, except that I use expletives, because I figure that's okay to do at Elliquiy, right?)

It seems many people at Elliquiy like to tell all their potential RP partners exactly which kinky and obscure sexual practices seem most exciting to them personally, and we're talking about giving extensive detail here.  :D  Not everyone at Elliquiy lists as much detail as they do at, say, that Rabbit Hole place (which I find absolutely hilarious), but it's common for many of us to list many sexual activities we would theoretically like to write about in our O/O's.  I did it, a long time ago, because it seemed like the thing to do.

Now, how many people actually do scenes in RPs that involve hardly any of that incredibly kinky stuff that gets listed in everyone's O/O's?  If you look around at enough RPs, you discover that most have no sex at all, and many of the rest have only short sex scenes.  (There are a few people who do nothing but sex-heavy RPs, but they're a small minority of E members, it seems to me, at least.  Before I joined, I would have guessed they would be in the majority.)

That's my impression at least; I'm no authority, nor does it personally matter to me what others like to RP about; to each his own!  But how come everybody lists their kinks in such detail and so publicly, if so few of us ever write about them?

Just sayin'.  :)  I think it's a fun, fascinating topic for discussion.  (Please nobody get mad at me, okay?  I'm just trying to have fun here.)
« Last Edit: October 13, 2012, 04:46:45 AM by rick957 »

Offline Ryuka Tana

Re: Anyone else a bit dissapointed in the lack of roleplays about sex?
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2012, 05:05:48 AM »
"I have never had any trouble finding sex in a game... Hell, I, almost literally, had a character stumble into a threeway. However, I'm not here because I want to have kinky sex... Kinky, slow-paced word sex, is a fun diversion, it's not a goal, because in the end, maybe the me from a few months from now gets his rocks off to reading a completed story that he reflects on. Otherwise, it's too slow-paced for me to get much more out of it than some fun. In a big group game, if your sex scene lasts too long, that's going to hamper some story for everyone else who isn't having sex with you."

"In the end, I like that my characters can murder and rape and fuck like real people an no one flinches, but there's a reason I wouldn't watch the 'Murder, Rape, Fuck' show, and there's a reason I only want enough story in my porn to create chemistry."

"This is just me, answering the question on my behalf, but I think there's a number of people who agree. Most of the people here for more than a month or two have done the 'let's fuck' thing, or don't have any interest in that whatsoever. Now we just let everyone know, 'hey, we're up for that, sometime, here's the rules if it comes to it...' Then it's time to tell a cool story."

"Nothing wrong with playing, 'Murder, Rape, Fuck' (trust me, those games exist, I know at least one of my E friends is in something like that), and the Solo/non-Forum RP threads are filled to the brim with people who just want sexy time. You just gotta look, wait, or tell people what you want."

"A little disclaimer, though, the all-sex games attract a very diverse crowd. Group games in general do, and you better be ready to tell them what you want, and possibly reject people. I try to keep my standards pretty high, and also make sure the 'scary kinks' (not meant in offense, I mean that entirely subjective to kinks that make me squick or squirm) know I'm not the place to go for certain stuff."

"Anyway, open communication (with maybe a little careful diplomacy) is key, if you want to get down and dirty, say so. Let people know, make the 'Down and Dirty (Interest Check)' thread, and gather thy fellow horny bastards. Taking action will always be the best way to make things go your way."

EDIT: "Oh, by the way, Rick, if you could read everyone's PMs, the story might be very different. You can easily have a 5 person PM orgy, and no one would ever know but the participants. Some people prefer it that way."
« Last Edit: October 13, 2012, 05:08:22 AM by Ryuka Tana »

Online Thufir Hawat

Re: Anyone else a bit dissapointed in the lack of roleplays about sex?
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2012, 06:01:00 AM »
Short answer:  hell yes.  ;) 

Sorry, I'm an overly-opinionated and verbose mofo who likes to prattle and act silly, and you've raised what I think is a fascinating topic, so I'm going to share my thoughts about it, but please be aware that I'm going to be blunt, i.e., please stop reading if you take offense frequently or easily.  (I feel the need to insert this caveat because I say things sometimes that bother people when I don't even mean to do so.)
I don't get offended easily, or at all. Carry on, you're safe with me. Yes, in that sense as well >:)!

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Okay, sex in Elliquiy RPs.  There's too little of it, IMO.
TH checks last 3 games.
TH checks random game, sex every page.
TH leaves it at this.

I'm driven to conclude you haven't included a "sex is a big part of this game" in your request thread ;D?
You totally should do that, it's all about attracting a like-minded crowd. As an example, if I was to join a spy game, I would expect it to be about spying, not sex, unless the interest thread says otherwise 8-)!

Offline rick957

Re: Anyone else a bit dissapointed in the lack of roleplays about sex?
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2012, 06:07:30 AM »
"Oh, by the way, Rick, if you could read everyone's PMs, the story might be very different. You can easily have a 5 person PM orgy, and no one would ever know but the participants. Some people prefer it that way."

As a former (and hopefully future) GM, this makes me a wee bit forlorn, to think that my players might wish to keep such entertaining developments away from me.  :'(

More seriously, my impression is that the majority of E members prefer the sex to be brief or absent, not described at length.  Also I suspect (this is highly theoretical; I'd love to hear opinions) that many male E joiners feel otherwise -- they're looking for more explicit smut -- whereas more female Elliquians only enjoy brief smut in the context of a larger, non-sexual story.  And for whatever reason, it's the E ladies whose preferences inform the majority of E RPs. 

(Yes, I assume -- perhaps wrongly -- that most men are hormone-crazed animals like me, and most women are sexually inhibited, relatively speaking -- compared to the average male.  Now, before anyone jumps down my throat, I understand that non-sexual RPs can be as much or more fun than sexual ones, and I understand that many women love the smut and many men find it boring.  I'm making uninformed and highly speculative generalizations about the majority of E members, but I'm only speculating for the sake of fun, certainly not to criticize anyone's personal preferences or look down on anyone. 

All that said, I love talking about this kinda stuff.  hehehehe  ;)  ) 
« Last Edit: October 13, 2012, 06:41:30 AM by rick957 »

Offline rick957

Re: Anyone else a bit dissapointed in the lack of roleplays about sex?
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2012, 06:18:48 AM »
This fascinated me:

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I'm driven to conclude you haven't included a "sex is a big part of this game" in your request thread ;D?

With respect, I would suggest that for the majority of E RPs, sex is not a "big" part, but more importantly, there isn't any at all.  People bring in these sexy characters and then never describe them having sex, even for one scene, even for one or two posts.  That's okay; to each his own; but isn't that a little bit odd and unexpected?

I would propose the following:  many people like myself join E assuming that everyone at the site, or at least the majority, expect that most of the games at a website dedicated to "adult roleplaying" will feature at least a little sex.  The reality is exactly the oppositemost RPs at E have very brief sex scenes or (more often than not) no sex at all.  Is that the typical case, or not?  If so, why is that, and what's that about?

Again, let me be clear:  rock on, all you people who want to do RPs with little or no sex.  All my RPs that have lasted have turned out that way, and I enjoyed the hell out of them.  But I imagine -- might be totally wrong -- that there's a presumption among most males and at least a few females who join E that there will be far more sex-focused RPs than there actually are.  If I'm wrong, as I may be, that's totally cool; I like E just the way it is and wouldn't even want any big changes.  But I think it's a fun topic for further discussion and input from various people, I hope.  :)
« Last Edit: October 13, 2012, 06:50:03 AM by rick957 »

Offline Ryuka Tana

Re: Anyone else a bit dissapointed in the lack of roleplays about sex?
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2012, 06:52:56 AM »
"I ca say from observation (and I do a hell of a lot of that), that females tend to want slower-paced, longer term role-plays, and males tend to just want the sex. However, I still am not seeing a lack of sex, just a difference in opinion as to how to go about it. Also, those are complete generalizations, but I'd say not uncommon ones. E has more males than females (by a decent margin), especially if you count biological males (most lieges are males biologically, from my experience)."

"However, there are more Dames than Knights, and I think more Sirens/Goddesses than Satyrs/Gods. A lot of guys come here for fast and dirty sex and find themselves disappointed. E is a mature community, and eventually, I'd say most of the long time players here are long time players because of the community, not the sex."

"Again, these are generalizations and speculations, not hard facts, but I feel pretty confident given how much of these sorts of things I've seen."

"Also, the idea that someone's keeping 'developments' away from you, is kind of insulting. I am running a PM game right now, partially because it was convenient for me and the partner (who is way kinkier than I am, if the time we've been talking is any indicator). I don't care much care if you see what I write, it's not a privacy thing, but you don't have any 'right' or 'entitlement' to it, even if its part of your game. If you have strong feelings about that, tell your players that all scenes must be public, ahead of time."

"I swear, and this isn't directed at you Rick, it's just a general statement, but when I talk to people about communication it often seems like I'm talking to children. Relationships (between any two or more people, for any purpose) are about rules, you establish them early, as reasonably as possible, and you discuss them often. Communicate them, and you build trust, with those two facets, a relationship stays strong."

"Tell people what you want, be clear, be detailed, and if you have to be assertive. I like the game concept I'm working on now enough to have actively sought out players for hours. Not everyone can do that, not every game survives, and life's not fair. Just put the word out, use the O/O search function, talk to people, network, make friends. Most of all, be courteous and polite, because no one is wrong for being busy or disliking your game concept (unless they're rude about it)."

"I, personally, would likely have zero interest in running a game with you, as I tend not to play well with the hornier members of my gender. That doesn't mean I think you're a bad person, go forth and have your dirty sex game, I know there are girls here who want it. You just have to know how to ask, and remember that there's a lot of different strokes out there, and most people don't want what you want. So, more people don't want what you're selling than do, just figure out how to call out to the ones that do."

With respect, I would suggest that for the majority of E RPs, sex is not a "big" part, but more importantly, there isn't any at all.  People bring in these sexy characters and then never describe them having sex, even for one scene, even for one or two posts.  That's okay; to each his own; but isn't that a little bit odd and unexpected?

I would propose the following:  many people like myself join E assuming that everyone at the site, or at least the majority, expect that most of the games at a website dedicated to "adult roleplaying[/b]" will feature at least a little sex[/b].  The reality is exactly the opposite:  most RPs at E have very brief sex scenes or (more often than not) no sex at all.  Is that the typical case, or not?  If so, why is that, and what's that about?

Again, let me be clear:  rock on, all you people who want to do RPs with little or no sex.  All my RPs that have lasted have turned out that way, and I enjoyed the hell out of them.  But I imagine -- might be totally wrong -- that there's a presumption among most males and at least a few females who join E that there will be far more sex-focused RPs than there actually are.  If I'm wrong, as I may be, that's totally cool; I like E just the way it is and wouldn't even want any big changes.  But I think it's a fun topic for further discussion and input from various people, I hope.  :)

"Again, see Thufir's post, and I'll say again. I've gotten plenty of sex scenes going here. I've played at least 10 to 20 games here or because of something from here (a request for an IM RP or something), and I can probably count on one hand the ones that lasted a reasonable amount of time and where I didn't have a sex scene."

"I haven't seen a lot of games without some discussion or implication of sex. Maybe, you and I have differing definitions on what 'too little' is... However, it comes back to this, again and again, go make a game where the goal is sex. Tell everyone you want all kinds of sex, and give it a good hook. Keep trying til a game works out... Be the change you want to see, or whatever."

Online Thufir Hawat

Re: Anyone else a bit dissapointed in the lack of roleplays about sex?
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2012, 07:24:50 AM »
This fascinated me:

With respect, I would suggest that for the majority of E RPs, sex is not a "big" part, but more importantly, there isn't any at all.
What is a "big" part differs wildly between different RPers, so I wouldn't go there. Sometimes, people might value the sexual tension more than the actual sex. Sometimes, they might value the actual sex, but value the logic of the story more. And logically, you don't want to screw other spies, to use your own example ;D!
That's why I was asking. Did you specify that you want it to be a big part in the interest thread?

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People bring in these sexy characters and then never describe them having sex, even for one scene, even for one or two posts.  That's okay; to each his own; but isn't that a little bit odd and unexpected?
Not at all odd, no, though I see it's odd for you.
Let me give you an example. If I bring up a character that's the best ever at fighting and assassinations at a court game, do you assume I want combat to be a central part of the game?
If you do, I remind you what they tell about assuming >:)! It's just as likely I want to skip any fights there are, surviving, and cut back to the talking, negotiations and deal-mongering. In character, the character is sick of killing and wants to solve some problems where violence doesn't help. There are many like this one.

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I would propose the following:  many people like myself join E assuming that everyone at the site, or at least the majority, expect that most of the games at a website dedicated to "adult roleplaying" will feature at least a little sex.  The reality is exactly the oppositemost RPs at E have very brief sex scenes or (more often than not) no sex at all.  Is that the typical case, or not?  If so, why is that, and what's that about?
That's not the typical case, IME.
So far, the game I'm running is barely over 300 posts, but already had 3 sexual scenes, another might start soon, and we've got even more unresolved relationships in progress. I find that to be about right for what is, after all, a game about criminals. Yes, I made it explicit the game wasn't about sex, and that anyone gets as much action as they get their characters involved into.
Had I made the opposite statement, I'd have expected triple that number of sexual scenes by now, at least. Except I wouldn't run it, since for me what leads to the sex is as interesting as the sexual content itself.

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Again, let me be clear:  rock on, all you people who want to do RPs with little or no sex.
Curiously enough, no RP I've been in that passed the 150-posts mark has been that way. And while the number might seem great, what is a post?
It's a statement of action or decision taken, putting it a bit simplified. How many mundane actions do you make, how many decisions do you take, per a single sexual act? Presumably, you aren't locked in a room masturbating all day long.
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All my RPs that have lasted have turned out that way, and I enjoyed the hell out of them.  But I imagine -- might be totally wrong -- that there's a presumption among most males and at least a few females who join E that there will be far more sex-focused RPs than there actually are.  If I'm wrong, as I may be, that's totally cool; I like E just the way it is and wouldn't even want any big changes.  But I think it's a fun topic for further discussion and input from various people, I hope.  :)
Obviously there are people that presume there would be more sex on E. than there actually is. And there are the people that presume there would be less.
These people are called, collectively, outliers. That's because if they tended towards what the majority are comfortable with, they'd be having no trouble finding what they're looking for. Most people on E. would be tending towards the same spot, literally!
That's not to say being an outlier is wrong. I'm saying that we all need to communicate our preferences clearly, unless what the majority wants is exactly what you want. Then, and only then, can you rely on unwritten assumptions! (Also keep in mind that what the majority expects from a game about nurses that give sexual favours to patients is different from what the majority expects of a game of international spies having a meeting, no matter where the meeting place is located).
Personally, I don't even know whether I'm an outlier. I take care to communicate my preferences clearly, so people that respond know what they're in for. Or if I'm considering to join an existing game, I ask about them.
And again, as someone else pointed above, a simple check of the One-on-One and One-shot interest threads, would show there are enough people that want lots of sex in their games. So maybe I'm the outlier, and not you?
Who cares! Just state clearly the amount of sexual content you expect from a game when you post an interest thread :P. People with different preferences would know not to join. The ones that want as much sex as you would know to jump at it. Everybody would be happier as a result, or at least I hope so ;D!

Offline ExisD

Re: Anyone else a bit dissapointed in the lack of roleplays about sex?
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2012, 07:52:44 AM »
If you're talking group games I'm also used to them containing very little sex, though in my case for groups I am part of the.... faction?(unsure if this is the correct word to use here)... that tends to have it either be non-existent or very brief in a group.

The reason for this tendency is simple. Sex scenes are a break in any plot continuation happening in the game and usually cause the game to stop or slow for the duration of the scene or longer. When a scene starts I'm used to one of two things happening; either everyone starts one or everyone not involved stops posting. In the first case it's possible that the plot of the game is suddenly on hold for a month or two as the variable posting rates and length preferences of each participant come into play. In the second everyone who stopped paying attention until the scene is done, which may also take over a month depending on posting speed, tends to have forgotten about the game and because of the break takes time to get back up to the previous level of interest.

The most successful group game I've taken part in lasted for a bit more than a year and ended at 626 posts. My character was involved in two scenes and I think everyone else, of four players, was in the same number.

Given the difficulties in getting a group game to run longer than a month, or even to begin in the first place, it makes sense that people would try to avoid something that has the potential to end the game preemptively.

Online Thufir Hawat

Re: Anyone else a bit dissapointed in the lack of roleplays about sex?
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2012, 10:51:15 AM »
If you're talking group games I'm also used to them containing very little sex, though in my case for groups I am part of the.... faction?(unsure if this is the correct word to use here)... that tends to have it either be non-existent or very brief in a group.

The reason for this tendency is simple. Sex scenes are a break in any plot continuation happening in the game and usually cause the game to stop or slow for the duration of the scene or longer. When a scene starts I'm used to one of two things happening; either everyone starts one or everyone not involved stops posting.
You could say the same about dialogue, though, especially if someone posts more slowly. While you hesitate, then whisper "no", me, posting faster, resolved a car race? Oh GM, sing me of those timing problems, that caused the death of many a group game >:)!

More practically, I'm used to three different means of resolving this for sexual scenes.
  • Either everyone is in a spot where an action takes a similar amount of time, like combat, or dialogue. A few simple actions at once, then resolving it? Then you can continue it in the main thread, provided everyone posts with roughly the same speed.
  • Or you take it to another thread, and continue from the aftermath of a resolved sex scene in the main IC thread.
  • And finally, if the people involved in it are relatively fast posters, the other fast posters are involved in another fast-paced activity, and the slow posters need some downtime anyway, you can continue as per the first case. This is rarely the case, but it happens, otherwise you have to use whatever it is that's the common way to resolve slow posting.
But generally, as soon as not everybody is in the same space, a group game becomes a time-managing exercise for the GM. It's always about matching at least roughly the speed of posting to the time passed, and sex is no exception.

Offline Ellipsis

Re: Anyone else a bit dissapointed in the lack of roleplays about sex?
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2012, 10:53:32 AM »
Elliquiy is a literary site that supports adult content.  To most of us adult content includes sex but isn't just sex.  I'm sure if you put your desires out there in a request thread you'll find some partners who are willing. 

We have writers of all sorts.  Just be respectful. ;D

+1. THIS.

I think it's too easy to assume that "Adult Roleplaying" means sex, sex, and more sex. We've all joined E looking for different things in our writing. Some wish to experiment or exercise certain kinks or settings. Some wish to find a sense of community with likeminded individuals. Some want to become better writers and storytellers. Our motivations differ. I joined because I wanted a freedom in my characters and stories that I didn't have on previous sites where fading to black was the rule.

I currently have eleven games at the moment and only four have included any sexual content. In one of them, the first "sex scene" didn't occur until nine pages into it. I'm in the mindset that sex will happen, eventually, but I make sure that my partners understand that sex isn't my primary goal when it comes to writing. If that's what you're after, that's perfectly fine by me, but I'm not the collaborator for you in that case. Sex should occur naturally between characters and I want it to make sense in the grand scheme of things like TH mentioned, some characters aren't going to hump like rabbits. At least not so soon. I also don't want to force the situation just because Elliquiy is labeled as an adult roleplaying website.

As for group games, I can't really say much on that since I rarely play them.

Truthfully, it all depends on what you want as a writer. I guarantee you that you'll be able to find a handful of people who want the same things you do, though it certainly may take a bit of patience.

Online Thufir Hawat

Re: Anyone else a bit dissapointed in the lack of roleplays about sex?
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2012, 11:14:05 AM »
Truthfully, it all depends on what you want as a writer. I guarantee you that you'll be able to find a handful of people who want the same things you do, though it certainly may take a bit of patience.
I disagree about the patience part, you need something like 15 minutes IME :P!
I mean, I just opened 6 threads just based on the titles, and 4 of them clearly show a desire for more sexual content, and most specified looking for a male co-writer, which the OP is. These were all on the first page, so I don't think of them as exactly hard to find ;D!

Offline Ellipsis

Re: Anyone else a bit dissapointed in the lack of roleplays about sex?
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2012, 11:25:33 AM »
I disagree about the patience part, you need something like 15 minutes IME :P!
I mean, I just opened 6 threads just based on the titles, and 4 of them clearly show a desire for more sexual content, and most specified looking for a male co-writer, which the OP is. These were all on the first page, so I don't think of them as exactly hard to find ;D!

I meant it in a general sense that to get what you want, you may have to wait or spend some time searching for something that meets a majority, if not all, of your criteria. Also, the OP's interests may be a bit more discerning than just "more sexual content."

From my personal experience and probably because I'm picky or very particular in what I'm looking for, I may have to wade through several messages or search threads before I'm able to find something that grabs my interest. It may take days or even weeks. It depends on what you want. Sure, if you want something as simple as more sex without much regard to a certain setting, content, or anything else, then you're going to have an easier time meeting those requirements.

Online Thufir Hawat

Re: Anyone else a bit dissapointed in the lack of roleplays about sex?
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2012, 12:26:14 PM »
I meant it in a general sense that to get what you want, you may have to wait or spend some time searching for something that meets a majority, if not all, of your criteria. Also, the OP's interests may be a bit more discerning than just "more sexual content."

From my personal experience and probably because I'm picky or very particular in what I'm looking for, I may have to wade through several messages or search threads before I'm able to find something that grabs my interest. It may take days or even weeks. It depends on what you want. Sure, if you want something as simple as more sex without much regard to a certain setting, content, or anything else, then you're going to have an easier time meeting those requirements.
If you didn't see it as teasing you, I made a poor joke.
So, it was a poor joke, but the above post was originally an attempt at kidding about it. Either way, both you and the OP have my apologies for the poor presentation!

Offline BitterSweet

Re: Anyone else a bit dissapointed in the lack of roleplays about sex?
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2012, 12:49:25 PM »
To answer your original post not really.

Every solo game (that's survived) I've had has run into sex, or the precursors for it within about three pages.  That's because I specifically ask for what I want sex, what kind, who with, how it might come up of the game set-up.  It's also much easier for solo players to include sex in their games because there's only the two of them to satisfy and there's no pressure to avoid slowing down the game for others.

And, to be blunt, several of the group games I've seen (and attempted to play in before it moved too fast) have had plenty of sex because the games were advertised and designed for sex.  One of them is a Victorian romp in the country (or cuntry), structured specifically to allow sex of all sorts.  There was sex almost as soon as the first player set foot on the stage.

The problem I've seen (and it's not exactly a problem if everyone is having fun) is that if you're starting a group game about spies, or sci-fi well, it's about spying or sci-fi adventures and to be frank, if you're going to keep even a vague sense of realism, most people when faced with life threatening or difficult situations focus on them, not fucking.  Combine that with the fact that most of us get our ideas on how a spy/sci-fi/whatever story progresses from movies/books etc, which rarely have any explicit sex at all.  So, if we're following the pattern of say Die Hard, where do we shoehorn the sex in?  There's no model to start from.  Porn movies and books are often the opposite no story progression or plot, just sex.  Group gamers, even on E, are usually looking for something more complex than a porn flick (hey, otherwise we'd be watching one).

Setting a game up for sex is actually pretty difficult; the right environment, situations that lead (more or less) logically into sex, compatible partners available (frankly, the rigidity of many male players in sexual situations can crimp available partners) and enough non-sexual plot to give the characters a chance to exercise their personalities but not be too distracting.  Most importantly, though, some mechanism that allows sex scenes to be 'off-screen' for other players so they're not hanging around waiting for two (or three/etc) people to get off so they can continue their stories.

In a group game I played elsewhere, the process for handling sex was to 'sideline' the sex thread and have the players involved in the sex write two threads; their sex thread and then continue on with the group game as usual.  That way, the group as a whole isn't held up by two (or so) players.  I don't see that happening much on E, which surprised me, considering I also expected quite a bit of sex focused play.

Offline Ellipsis

Re: Anyone else a bit dissapointed in the lack of roleplays about sex?
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2012, 01:03:31 PM »
If you didn't see it as teasing you, I made a poor joke.
So, it was a poor joke, but the above post was originally an attempt at kidding about it. Either way, both you and the OP have my apologies for the poor presentation!

Now I feel silly.  :P

Text and tone don't always translate, so no apologies necessary.

In a group game I played elsewhere, the process for handling sex was to 'sideline' the sex thread and have the players involved in the sex write two threads; their sex thread and then continue on with the group game as usual.  That way, the group as a whole isn't held up by two (or so) players.  I don't see that happening much on E, which surprised me, considering I also expected quite a bit of sex focused play.

That's a really good idea! I usually shy away from group games because I find the posting rate a bit overwhelming or I feel like an intruder when two characters are interacting mainly with one another, whether it's something sexual or not, but a 'sideline' thread of sorts would definitely curb that outsider feeling.
« Last Edit: October 13, 2012, 01:07:36 PM by Ellipsis »

Offline Cold Heritage

Re: Anyone else a bit dissapointed in the lack of roleplays about sex?
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2012, 01:19:57 PM »
There was a time when I was, but I got over it. Now, I tend to be disappointed and dismayed when I see too much sex creep into a roleplay. I am particularly dismayed by effusively sexual characters in otherwise non-effusively sexual games.

Offline Ryuka Tana

Re: Anyone else a bit dissapointed in the lack of roleplays about sex?
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2012, 01:33:03 PM »
There was a time when I was, but I got over it. Now, I tend to be disappointed and dismayed when I see too much sex creep into a roleplay. I am particularly dismayed by effusively sexual characters in otherwise non-effusively sexual games.

"Yeah, this is annoying. I swear, even communication will never get through to some people. I mean, I haven't run a game yet where sex was off the table (or of no bearing to the game at all), but some people seem to think that adult rp means that their character has to run naked through the world with double D cups or a 12 inch dick... That's an exaggeration, but I always have to be wary when dealing with people who would rather act like a dog in heat than make a plot go smoothly."

Online Thufir Hawat

Re: Anyone else a bit dissapointed in the lack of roleplays about sex?
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2012, 03:50:59 PM »
frankly, the rigidity of many male players in sexual situations can crimp available partners
Could you elaborate on that, please :P?

That's a really good idea! I usually shy away from group games because I find the posting rate a bit overwhelming or I feel like an intruder when two characters are interacting mainly with one another, whether it's something sexual or not, but a 'sideline' thread of sorts would definitely curb that outsider feeling.
That's the SOP for me when running games, unless one of the other two solutions I've got aren't readily available.
I strongly suspect that this is the reason the number of threads allowed per game go up with the number of players ;D!

Offline LunarSage

Re: Anyone else a bit dissapointed in the lack of roleplays about sex?
« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2012, 02:30:14 PM »
If you're not seeing the sex in games on Elliquiy, I would venture to guess you're not looking very hard.  Sex is everywhere in these games.  I really don't know what else to say about that. 

I didn't come to this site to write constant porn smutfests, if that's what's being suggested.  I like about 80% story and 20% sex.  Sex can be -really- repetitive to write in my experience and if that's all I wrote about, I'd lose interest in writing real quick. 

Offline Cold Heritage

Re: Anyone else a bit dissapointed in the lack of roleplays about sex?
« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2012, 02:35:25 PM »
I'm somewhat torn. On the one hand, I want to write more sex to get more practice and experience in doing so, but on the other, I don't want to get things off the rails by devoting too much time to sex scenes.

Online AndyZ

Re: Anyone else a bit dissapointed in the lack of roleplays about sex?
« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2012, 06:42:06 PM »
My two cents:

I absolutely love that you can have characters who have sex instantly and spontaneously.  By default, in most places, you just can't.  Either you have to take it to a separate room or outside the normal game or whatever.

Now, when you first get to E, it's pretty normal to jump on all kinds of sexual games.  However, I think that after people get good and saturated, things calm down enough that you play normal characters and leave that potential open for when you're in the mood.

I don't need every game to be sexual, but it's awesome that any game can be.