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Offline Mobius

Re: Best non-anime cartoon
« Reply #50 on: October 07, 2012, 09:06:31 PM »
Are you kidding? SatAM is amazing! Even watching it as an adult it makes me happy. Of course some of the jokes are outdated, but the darker undertones always was great. I remember watching it when it came out and was SO sad when they canceled it!

I've always been a fan! :D

I know! They ended the show on such a cliffhanger too! But given some of what Ben Hurst (RIP) shared with his ideas for season 3, I am wondering if it might have been better off ending it where it did before things went too out in left field.

Do you read the SATAM s3 comic? They do a pretty decent job picking up where the show left off.

Offline Chris Brady

Re: Best non-anime cartoon
« Reply #51 on: October 07, 2012, 09:18:59 PM »
I feel the Spider-Man cartoons were often overshadowed by the Timm-verse animations of the time but not that they weren't deserving of attention themselves. I haven't really been as big a fan of the DC animation since they got away from the Bruce Timm designed work myself. (Not counting the Teen Titans, I did enjoy that show) I also feel that the Avengers : Earth's Mightiest Heroes holds up with any of those shows as far as quality and storytelling myself.

Bear in mind, I am not saying the Marvel Cartoons sucked, in fact, quite a few were awesome.  But the DC stuff had traction, and brand recognition, which meant when someone mentions a Batman, or Justice League cartoon, there's a certain type of quality to expect.  Not so with the Marvel ones.  Although I've heard that the Avenger's cartoon is getting cancelled.  I hope not, cuz I LIKED it.  Of course, it was aiming for a demographic not usually touched by Disney:  The 14 to 24 crowd.

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Re: Best non-anime cartoon
« Reply #52 on: October 07, 2012, 09:47:11 PM »
Oh, I agree.  If you sat me down and asked me to watch an average episode of Spider-Man, X-Men, or Batman TAS, I'd be prone to choose the Batman episode.  IMO, the general writing quality of the series was better than that of its Marvel counterparts.  So much so that, more than Michael Keaton or Christian Bale, I consider Kevin Conroy the real Batman.  Accept no substitutes.

Unless you want camp, then Adam West is king.

Offline Shjade

Re: Best non-anime cartoon
« Reply #53 on: October 07, 2012, 10:13:08 PM »
Batman : The Animated Series - Haven't met too many who don't like this one really. It has some stinker episodes (The one where Bruce gets amnesia was particularly atrocious.) But it also has some episodes that are among my favorite of all time. In particular the one where the villains are gathered around a table each telling their how they got Batman but he got away stories. It also gave us Harley as a character. And made characters like Mr Freeze interesting in a way they never had been before.

On that note, and for folks like Rick who perhaps haven't seen much of the series to get a taste for it, here are The Nostalgia Critic's choices for top 11 Batman:TAS episodes. I don't know that I necessarily agree with his choices, but there are a lot of good ones on the list.

He also has a commentary episode, but eh, it's not exactly informative about the show.

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« Reply #54 on: October 07, 2012, 10:15:01 PM »
Unless you want camp, then Adam West is king.

Word.

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Re: Best non-anime cartoon
« Reply #55 on: October 07, 2012, 10:24:09 PM »
Batman Beyond was pretty nifty, especially when they linked the future Bruce Wayne in the Justice League Unlimited cartoon for an episode or two that involved a futuristic Justice League.  Fanboy awesomeness.  ;D

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« Reply #56 on: October 07, 2012, 10:29:13 PM »
I actually took a look at that NC episode.  I agree with some of the choices: Gray Ghost, Trial, Almost Got 'Im.  Some of the others I haven't seen, so I don't know.

I will say that I disagree with the NC's best episode choice, however.  Heart of Ice will always be the best TAS ep.  Took Mr Freeze, a villain with a simple gimmick, and turned him into a highly sympathetic and tragic figure.

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Re: Best non-anime cartoon
« Reply #57 on: October 07, 2012, 10:31:21 PM »
Agreed.  The writers did a terrific job with making Mr. Freeze a very believable villain, especially considering he's got one of those glass clock covers for a helmet lol

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« Reply #58 on: October 07, 2012, 10:40:02 PM »
I would actually argue, DC, that Freeze is a more believable villain now than he was when the episode was penned and shown in 1992.  Evil corporate exec that doesn't give a damn about anything but money?  Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis that the sound of the 2008 financial crisis I hear?

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Re: Best non-anime cartoon
« Reply #59 on: October 07, 2012, 10:56:39 PM »
They did the same thing with the original rendition of Clayface, as well.  That's another classic episode of TES that introduces the Dagget Corporation and their miracle face cream.  I thought that was pretty well done, too, if a little on the cheesy side with some of the melodrama.

Offline TentacleFan

Re: Best non-anime cartoon
« Reply #60 on: October 07, 2012, 11:10:09 PM »
I actually took a look at that NC episode.  I agree with some of the choices: Gray Ghost, Trial, Almost Got 'Im.  Some of the others I haven't seen, so I don't know.

I will say that I disagree with the NC's best episode choice, however.  Heart of Ice will always be the best TAS ep.  Took Mr Freeze, a villain with a simple gimmick, and turned him into a highly sympathetic and tragic figure.

I checked it out as well. Some good choices. I wouldn't put Baby Doll so high myself even if it was a good episode. I do think what they did with Mr Freeze, along with the creation of Harley, was one of the great legacies of the show. I found the Two-Face story, woven through several episodes before he even becomes Two-Face was very emotional and well done as well.

Offline Shjade

Re: Best non-anime cartoon
« Reply #61 on: October 08, 2012, 12:52:55 AM »
I'm trying to remember what my favorite was back in the day, but all I can recall is it was centered around the Joker...hm...maybe some Google-fu will jog my memory...

I think it was Joker's Favor.
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Offline Sel Nar

Re: Best non-anime cartoon
« Reply #62 on: October 08, 2012, 01:34:05 AM »
If we're talking good animation that isn't anime, check out Cybersix. Only had 13 episodes made (at a rather hefty pricetag of 1 million per, which is why only 13 episodes were made), but definitely worth it. Lots of mature themes and character development going on in that time, and the comic book it's based off of (argentinian origin) has been going on for a somewhat hefty amount of time. Definitely needs more Love though, even if the show tried to kiddifiy the show with more 'monster of the week' stuff.

Still, when the main character's creator is a nazi mad scientist who considers things like '6000 rebellious supersoldiers' to be 'worth exterminating' without so much as a blink of the eye? Yeah. Show was on in 1999 on Teletoon canada, went into reruns until 2003 or so. You can prolly find full rips online somewhere.

Offline Chris Brady

Re: Best non-anime cartoon
« Reply #63 on: October 08, 2012, 03:17:26 AM »
Cyber Six!  Man, another good one.

Offline Gadifriald

Re: Best non-anime cartoon
« Reply #64 on: October 08, 2012, 04:49:49 AM »
Waiting for the AC to cool down the upstairs so I can sleep and I remembered another one of my all time favorites! The Tick!

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Offline Sasquatch421

Re: Best non-anime cartoon
« Reply #65 on: October 08, 2012, 10:52:26 AM »
The newest stuff I liked would have to be Wolverine and the X-Men along with Avatar: The Last Airbender. I was watching the Thundercats remake for a bit as well, before CN shuffled it off to a new time slot.... Otherwise....

Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends
Gargoyles
The Original Transformers
M.A.S.K
Thundercats
Wild C.A.T.S(not as good as the comics, but oh well)
X-Men
The Original Ghostbusters
He-Man
She-Ra
C.O.W.boys of Moo Mesa
Pro-Stars
Darkwing Duck
The Mighty Ducks
G.I. Joe
Beetlejuice
Dungeons and Dragons
Jem
Pound Puppies
Superfriends
The sometimes Captain N: The Game Master

Online VonDoom

Re: Best non-anime cartoon
« Reply #66 on: October 08, 2012, 11:36:17 AM »
Gargoyles
Batman: TAS
Batman Beyond
Avatar: The Last Airbender
Spectacular Spider-Man
Scooby Doo: Mystery Incorporated
TMNT (the 2003-2009 one)
Pinky and the Brain
Freakazoid!

... does Transformers Prime count? Only Transformers series I've ever seen, but utterly brilliant.

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Re: Best non-anime cartoon
« Reply #67 on: October 08, 2012, 12:03:59 PM »
Transformers: Beast Wars was another favorite.

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And I'll always be a fan of Eek the Cat lol

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Offline Sasquatch421

Re: Best non-anime cartoon
« Reply #68 on: October 08, 2012, 12:14:01 PM »
I never could get into Beast Wars for some reason.... I do still have the game for the PS1 though. Though saying Eek does remind me off Felix and Heathcliff now. Always was a Garfield fan as well...

Offline Arohk

Re: Best non-anime cartoon
« Reply #69 on: October 08, 2012, 12:19:42 PM »
Ohmaigawd, Mobius. I did read it! I have never met anyone else who has. :O I do like where they took it. I just wish it could have seen the light of day in animation.

Beast Wars! I loved Beast Wars! It was my favorite of the whole Transformers series. Which also leads me to remember ReBoot. I loved ReBoot too! Doesn't hold up well today, but I loved the humor in the entire thing. The winks. The plot. It was a great show.

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Re: Best non-anime cartoon
« Reply #70 on: October 08, 2012, 01:14:02 PM »
Not to mention Tony Jay's excellent performance as Megabyte.

Offline Chris Brady

Re: Best non-anime cartoon
« Reply #71 on: October 08, 2012, 02:05:07 PM »
Not to mention Tony Jay's excellent performance as Megabyte.
May he rest in peace.

Offline Lilias

Re: Best non-anime cartoon
« Reply #72 on: October 08, 2012, 02:28:22 PM »
Glad someone other than myself mentioned Daria! :D

But of course! There is some heartache for what MTV used to be involved in the equation, but it's mostly a case of me being in the second half of my 20s while it aired, and working my high school hangups out of my system with its help. ;D

Offline ArmandTopic starter

Re: Best non-anime cartoon
« Reply #73 on: October 08, 2012, 05:07:43 PM »
Thanks everyone for turning 10 years old again on my post lol glad you enjoyed re living classic childhood moments.

Offline Sasquatch421

Re: Best non-anime cartoon
« Reply #74 on: October 08, 2012, 05:24:55 PM »
Thanks everyone for turning 10 years old again on my post lol glad you enjoyed re living classic childhood moments.

Turning 10? According to my mom I'm a 10 year old living in a 33 year old body....

And while on the topic of MTV animation..... Aeon Flux and The Maxx..... 'nuff said.