Guild Wars 2 Beta Weekend 2

Started by Chris Brady, June 08, 2012, 07:44:31 PM

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Chris Brady

Anyone else in, other than Sel_Nar and I?
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SinXAzgard21

I forgot about it, but I'll probably be playing tomorrow morning.
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Sel Nar

Lots of changes, some temporary, some more likely to be permanent. Still bloody awesome.

Shjade

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Chris Brady

Shade, did you pre-order?  If yes, you are in.  If no, then you are SOL for the next little while.

Remade my Norn warrior, feels a bit more sturdy, the Personal quest balance feels better too.
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ExisD

I really wish I could play, but I have work all weekend. What are the biggest changes?

SinXAzgard21

I pre-purchased mine... I need to play so I might just do that for the next two hours.
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Quote from: ExisD on June 09, 2012, 08:33:15 AM
I really wish I could play, but I have work all weekend. What are the biggest changes?
The extra servers.  And that's it.

They were supposed to make one handed weapons all hit multiple targets, but apparently that change hasn't been implemented.
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ExisD

Quote from: Chris Brady on June 09, 2012, 01:26:37 PM
The extra servers.  And that's it.

They were supposed to make one handed weapons all hit multiple targets, but apparently that change hasn't been implemented.

Thanks, extra servers are good news though I was hoping to hear something about changes that make it less painful to do melee combat. Improving one handers would help there.

Sel Nar

Having mucked about in the beta for only a few hours today, I can list off a short list of changes so far.

Chat interface is greatly refined and far smoother than before.

You get Rewards for 100% exploring an area, including loot; having fully-explored Divinity's Reach in the first BWE, it was a pleasant surprise to revisit the City and see a chest icon in the bottom-right that gave me 1K exp. Doing the same in the first explorable area gave me a weapon, some armour, a pile of transmutation stones, and a heap of crafting materials, as well as Experience, karma, and money.

Melee combat has noticeably changed; 'normal' attacks from enemies of the same or slightly lower level than you only really do 'chip' damage; Having my level 20 thief downscaled to 12 in beetletun, the local centaur population could only really hurt me when they fired off a special, like their warrior's blindingly obvious charge attack. My level 10 warrior also chumped the same centaurs by merit of having a big Fucking hammer to knock them flying.

All melee weapons have a noticeable physical buff; my old and crappy daggers were doing 20+ on baseline hits instead of 10+ in the previous BWE, pistols and rifles remain the same, but have what appears to be a slightly slower Rate of Fire, balancing the advantage of 'keep-away' with lower DPS.

The doubling of servers (96 worlds in the beta = holy crap) means that the only lag is client-side, not server-side. Trawling the forums basically showcased that everyone who complained about lag in the last BWE has mysteriously disappeared entirely.

They're reworking the minimap; last BWE it was a classic circular minimap akin to the GW1 'radar' map, this time it's rectangular, and clearly a placeholder.

Utility skills have tiers to encourage experimentation; you need to unlock 5 skills per tier to gain access to the next, and there's 7-9 skills per tier, not counting racials. Tier 1 skills all cost 1 skill point, and have fun things like the thief's scorpion wire, or the ranger's summonable spirits that buff allies in fights. Tier 2 skills cost 3 skill points each, (so at minimum, you'll have blown 20 skill points to gain access to tier 3), and, have more of the 'generalist' utility skills, or AoE skills, such as the Thief's blinding powder (Blinds all nearby enemies, stealths all nearby allies). In general, I find that it encourages experimentation rather than settling into one build, which is a GOOD thing.

Traits are also tiered; instead of getting access to all 12 major trait choices, it encourages investment; trait 1-6 are available at tier 1, 7-10 are added at tier 2, and 11-12 are added for tier 3, so you get a limited selection early on, but the more you invest and specialize, the more powerful major traits are unlocked.

Remember; all of this is still subject to change, for obvious reason.

Shjade

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Quote from: Chris Brady on June 09, 2012, 03:50:23 AM
Shade, did you pre-order?  If yes, you are in.  If no, then you are SOL for the next little while.

No. Pre-ordering to get into the beta would defeat the purpose of getting into the beta to see if the game runs well enough to be playable on my machine, since at that point I'd have bought it anyway.

Quote from: Sel Nar on June 09, 2012, 04:07:55 PM
You get Rewards for 100% exploring an area, including loot; having fully-explored Divinity's Reach in the first BWE, it was a pleasant surprise to revisit the City and see a chest icon in the bottom-right that gave me 1K exp. Doing the same in the first explorable area gave me a weapon, some armour, a pile of transmutation stones, and a heap of crafting materials, as well as Experience, karma, and money.

All melee weapons have a noticeable physical buff; my old and crappy daggers were doing 20+ on baseline hits instead of 10+ in the previous BWE, pistols and rifles remain the same, but have what appears to be a slightly slower Rate of Fire, balancing the advantage of 'keep-away' with lower DPS.

The doubling of servers (96 worlds in the beta = holy crap) means that the only lag is client-side, not server-side. Trawling the forums basically showcased that everyone who complained about lag in the last BWE has mysteriously disappeared entirely.

Interesting. Despite my only having theorycrafted about the game's mechanics and potential problems (since I haven't had a chance to test it firsthand, only observed and read reports/reviews), it sounds like they're making changes to things I'd suggested anyway. Not that it was due to my suggesting they'd be problems, obviously, but it's a fun coincidence.

Also yay, I love exploring and hate lag, so those things sound great. =D
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Quote from: Shjade on June 09, 2012, 09:50:25 PM
No. Pre-ordering to get into the beta would defeat the purpose of getting into the beta to see if the game runs well enough to be playable on my machine, since at that point I'd have bought it anyway.

As I mentioned in the last thread that got derailed into GW2-talk, if you bought your computer new at any time within the last 5 yeas, you can play Guild Wars 2. Minimum requirements for GW2 are literally the Bleeding-edge machines from 8 years ago. (Single-core, Radeon 9600 or Geforce 3, or better, 2 GB RAM)

Shjade

I remember. "Can play" doesn't necessarily mean "playable," though. There are games my machine can run, but not in a way that makes them anything other than frustrating. *shrugs* What can I say, I like a hands-on look at things.
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Chris Brady

Dood, my rig is dual core 4400 AMD with 4 gigs RAM and a Radeon HD5550 (which was a total of 90 bucks with taxes brand spanking new on the market) and it runs GW2 as smooth as fine whiskey.
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