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Offline Shjade

Re: Fifty Shades trilogy by E.L. James
« Reply #50 on: June 20, 2012, 02:35:32 PM »
Gives 'You've Got a Friend In Me' a whole new meaning.

I think you mean, "You've Got a Friend in Me There"

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Re: Fifty Shades trilogy by E.L. James
« Reply #51 on: June 20, 2012, 09:34:18 PM »
Oo!  You guys!  I found another sporking!  This one has already finished FSoG and is already onto poking through the sequel!

http://steamingpileoflit.tumblr.com/archive

On a side note, I'm starting to wonder if it's bad that I enjoy picking apart bad fiction almost as much as I enjoy reading good stuff...

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Re: Fifty Shades trilogy by E.L. James
« Reply #52 on: June 25, 2012, 01:33:01 PM »
http://dearauthor.com/features/industry-news/master-of-the-universe-versus-fifty-shades-by-e-l-james-comparison/

I read that before I ever picked up the book. Friends keep trying to encourage me to read it, but honestly, I just cannot read something that started as FANFIC of another Author's work, and then had the names changed (and very little else) to be published.

Honestly, when did the publishing industry become so bloody desperate for author's to publish?


Offline Shjade

Re: Fifty Shades trilogy by E.L. James
« Reply #53 on: June 25, 2012, 02:50:24 PM »
It occurs to me that thinking of Fifty Shades as Twilight fanfiction puts something of a different spin on the menstrual moment scene. And not in a good way. >.>

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Re: Fifty Shades trilogy by E.L. James
« Reply #54 on: June 25, 2012, 02:52:31 PM »
I've read some pretty good fanfic.  I've read some rather crappy fanfic.  I've read good fanfic of good source, and bad fanfic of good source.  I haven't read good fanfic of bad source, but if it's out there, I'd be willing to give it a shot.  50SOG seems to fall into the 'bad fanfic of bad source' category for most people, and that's where you can't pay me even to beta.

Seriously, though, if the publishing industry is that desperate, I can dust off the Monster and ship it to them.

It occurs to me that thinking of Fifty Shades as Twilight fanfiction puts something of a different spin on the menstrual moment scene. And not in a good way. >.>

Okay, that just squicked me - and that's pretty hard to do.  I tip my hat to you, Shjade.  ;)

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Re: Fifty Shades trilogy by E.L. James
« Reply #55 on: June 25, 2012, 03:12:56 PM »
It occurs to me that thinking of Fifty Shades as Twilight fanfiction puts something of a different spin on the menstrual moment scene. And not in a good way. >.>



Squicked forever.

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Re: Fifty Shades trilogy by E.L. James
« Reply #56 on: June 25, 2012, 03:24:39 PM »
I totally understand that fanfic can be some pretty amazing writing. And I also get that there are probably no completely original ideas out there. But to me fanfic is NOT meant for publication, and definitely should not be something that publishers of major publishing houses should be wading through looking for things to publish. It really bothers me.

And ..
It occurs to me that thinking of Fifty Shades as Twilight fanfiction puts something of a different spin on the menstrual moment scene. And not in a good way. >.>

Just. Eww. *facepalms*

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Re: Fifty Shades trilogy by E.L. James
« Reply #57 on: June 25, 2012, 04:02:22 PM »
I suspect that James did the filing-off-of-serial-numbers before submitting it to a publishing house, rather than someone from the publisher stumbling across it and saying 'Gee, if we just change the names, it'll sell like hotcakes!'  James might've also gone the self-pub route, and done well enough by word of mouth for a big house to notice.  There was a vicar I heard of who tapped in on the whole Harry Potter craze with a self-pub that got picked up by Penguin Press.  That one wasn't badly written, just a little 'late C.S. Lewis' for me.

Offline Shjade

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« Reply #58 on: June 25, 2012, 05:16:14 PM »
Three squicks and a tip of the hat from one observation. I do believe I am the winnar.

You may now reward me with delicious foods.

Offline Antioch

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« Reply #59 on: July 08, 2012, 09:36:39 PM »
So Just recently finished book three and can honestly say number one trilogy in my favorites list. Ok close tie for first with the black jewels trilogy.

Offline Envious

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« Reply #60 on: July 08, 2012, 09:59:12 PM »
I started reading this after it was recommended, and I find it (so far) to be thoroughly disappointing. I was told it gets better, so I'll be fastforwarding to the sexy bits when I next have time to sit down and read.

The sporkings link thing was super-fab.

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Re: Fifty Shades trilogy by E.L. James
« Reply #61 on: July 10, 2012, 04:35:13 PM »
SNL skit.  Just had to post. :-)



SNL 50 Shades of Grey skit

Offline Will

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« Reply #62 on: July 10, 2012, 05:29:25 PM »
SNL skit.  Just had to post. :-)



SNL 50 Shades of Grey skit

That was pretty damn funny. XD

It kinda baffles me, though, that so many people consider 50 Shades of Grey to be "hot."  Their standards must be impossibly low.  Some of the stuff I've read on Elliquiy would probably make their heads explode!

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Re: Fifty Shades trilogy by E.L. James
« Reply #63 on: July 10, 2012, 06:59:21 PM »
These are the same people who bought Fabio's book, most likely.

Offline Chris Brady

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« Reply #64 on: July 10, 2012, 07:29:52 PM »
People are easily swayed by celebrity opinions.

Offline Will

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« Reply #65 on: July 10, 2012, 09:09:40 PM »
Or they're horribly repressed and have a low tolerance for any sort of erotica.  I would imagine it's a little of both.

Offline Chris Brady

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« Reply #66 on: July 10, 2012, 09:14:09 PM »
Pretty much yeah.  Some celebs fall under that category too.

Offline Iniquitous

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« Reply #67 on: July 10, 2012, 09:41:54 PM »
I would say that the reason it is considered so "hot" and "good" is truly because there are celebs out there saying it is. Most people are sheep and will follow the word of a famous person over forming their own opinion.

That and they have dismal sex lives so that what E.L. James wrote seems 'omg hot!'... which still baffles me that someone would think that since I found the sex in the books to be ridiculously boring.

Still, the woman will be filthy rich soon since it is official that they are adapting the books for the big screen. Ironic that a movie is being made out of a book that is a fanfiction of another book. *shakes her head*

Offline SinXAzgard21

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« Reply #68 on: July 10, 2012, 10:47:35 PM »
I would say that the reason it is considered so "hot" and "good" is truly because there are celebs out there saying it is. Most people are sheep and will follow the word of a famous person over forming their own opinion.

That and they have dismal sex lives so that what E.L. James wrote seems 'omg hot!'... which still baffles me that someone would think that since I found the sex in the books to be ridiculously boring.

Still, the woman will be filthy rich soon since it is official that they are adapting the books for the big screen. Ironic that a movie is being made out of a book that is a fanfiction of another book. *shakes her head*

Yup filthy rich off of someone else's idea...

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Offline Will

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« Reply #69 on: July 10, 2012, 11:54:50 PM »
I'm right there with Professor Farnsworth.

Offline Shjade

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« Reply #70 on: July 11, 2012, 12:22:02 AM »
I would say that the reason it is considered so "hot" and "good" is truly because there are celebs out there saying it is. Most people are sheep and will follow the word of a famous person over forming their own opinion.
See Oprah for details.

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Re: Fifty Shades trilogy by E.L. James
« Reply #71 on: July 11, 2012, 02:10:51 AM »
Also, I am starting to believe that most people are really, really vanilla and despite being in an digital age that is saturated in sex and violence, they just don't think about it as much or consider it daily like some of us do.  Such a book series that is suddenly "mainstreamed" shocks them because it is not something that they think about consciously on a daily basis or something.  "Shocking the mundanes" as it may be called.

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« Reply #72 on: July 11, 2012, 04:13:38 AM »
Well, yes, people are really vanilla.

How can I put this...  Um.  You know when you look at a tragedy (like an accident) and suddenly think 'Glad I'm not that guy!'  Or when you see something on TV or movie and wish you could do something that spectacular?  But when you walk away or turn off the idiot box and move on with your life, what you just saw or experienced no longer affects you and you simply 'move on' to the next thing?

That's how people are.  They live in the moment, no thought of what happens next.  We, roleplayers, gamers, artists, writers, do not work that way, this is why we stand out, why we're not like everyone else, we continue to live, to care, to watch, to just DO.  So we get to experience more and it STICKS with us.

To everyone else, things happen, good or bad, to 'that guy', never to them, and so it never registers that THEY could be THAT guy.  Honestly, to your friends and family, you ARE 'that guy' to them.  Us imaginative types tend to figure that out at some point in our lives and decide HOW to be 'that guy'.

Hope people got that, it's 5:15AM over here, and my brains are leaking again...

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Re: Fifty Shades trilogy by E.L. James
« Reply #73 on: July 11, 2012, 04:29:29 AM »
Well, yes, people are really vanilla.

How can I put this...  Um.  You know when you look at a tragedy (like an accident) and suddenly think 'Glad I'm not that guy!'  Or when you see something on TV or movie and wish you could do something that spectacular?  But when you walk away or turn off the idiot box and move on with your life, what you just saw or experienced no longer affects you and you simply 'move on' to the next thing?

That's how people are.  They live in the moment, no thought of what happens next.  We, roleplayers, gamers, artists, writers, do not work that way, this is why we stand out, why we're not like everyone else, we continue to live, to care, to watch, to just DO.  So we get to experience more and it STICKS with us.

To everyone else, things happen, good or bad, to 'that guy', never to them, and so it never registers that THEY could be THAT guy.  Honestly, to your friends and family, you ARE 'that guy' to them.  Us imaginative types tend to figure that out at some point in our lives and decide HOW to be 'that guy'.

Hope people got that, it's 5:15AM over here, and my brains are leaking again...

Made perfect sense to me, to be honest.

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Re: Fifty Shades trilogy by E.L. James
« Reply #74 on: July 11, 2012, 01:18:03 PM »
New sporking is up!  Chapter Eight is up! It's... it's just so bad.  Anatomy fail, possessiveness, sexually ignorant sex champion, painful vanilla sexing... God, how do people actually enjoy this?  Have they seriously never read erotica before or do they just not care about characterization?