I just do not like when it goes from a Philosophical discussion to a "All <insert group of people>" or "Those <insert group of people>" as its stereotyping :)
That was my point. All that this thread's served to do is stereotype Christians as ultra-conservative bible-thumpers who brainwash their kids. Is the stereotype true? Of course it is. There are plenty of Christians who fit into that stereotype perfectly, else the stereotype wouldn't exist. However, the fact remains that not all Christians are like that. In fact, the vast majority of them aren't.
The reason why I used the generic <insert group here> tag in my post is because this thread could easily be about "white people", or "black people", or "geeky people", or "stupid people", or "middle class people", or "rich people", or "handicapped people", or "athletic people", or "fat people", or "people who love ice cream", or "blonde people", or "women with big boobs", or "men with small feet", or "women named Joe".... It's just formula. You go, "Let's talk about X", and then you have a bunch of people who consider themselves experts on X throw out a few things about X, a bunch of people who are completely misinformed about X retort, then people who identify with X get offended, then the experts come back to "clarify" their positions after they realize how many people they pissed off, then the misinformed come back and go "I was right", then there's another wave of offense...etc. etc. etc. and the pendulum continues to swing.
Maybe if this thread narrowed things down to, say, "Liberal interpretation of the Bible vs. Strict interpretation of the Bible, which do you adhere to or agree with?", then you'd have a discussion on your hands, but just "Christians"? I mean, c'mon...whoever doesn't like em will speak negatively, whoever is Christian will get offended, and whoever sympathizes will try to "ameliorate" the situation but fail to appease either side. What kinds of facts can you bring into a topic like that? Just go back and look at this thread...lots of conjecture and opinions, maybe some synthesis and extrapolation, but how many facts, or at least "expert opinions" are there? Who can consider themselves an "expert" on Christianity, when there are thousands upon thousands of different sects out there claiming to be Christian? Heck, there even exists a liberal Christian Swingers group (which the wife and I considered joining).
So, really, the end-all, be-all of a discussion on such a broad topic can only be the same as any discussion of any subsection of the world's population: Some of them suck, some of them are cool