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Offline KaylaM

Re: (WoW) Why the Alliance Hate and Why is the Horde so Popular?
« Reply #75 on: August 01, 2011, 10:40:54 PM »
I'd fully support that idea. Sylvie W. long ago gave up any illusion of being a sypathetic character, as did the Forsaken as a race/faction. They've long since passed from "self-defence" and into "genocide" and are completely unapologetic about it. Killing innocent civillians and turning them into undead makes them no better then the Scourge.

Sadly, this has also had the effect of bringing out the worst in the Horde's RP population. There's been an influx of "hur hur kill babies" types who have been relishing the opportunity to play stupidly evil.

Offline Callie Del Noire

Re: (WoW) Why the Alliance Hate and Why is the Horde so Popular?
« Reply #76 on: August 01, 2011, 10:55:44 PM »
I always thought that the Worgen/Goblins should have been part of a 'neutral' group that would include the Panderens or perhaps another group.

Sylvannus is (and to me) always a dangerous person waiting for the right fuse to be lit go off. I can see her quite easily wiping out a Tauren/Troll local to 'recruit' reserves.


Online TheGlyphstone

Re: (WoW) Why the Alliance Hate and Why is the Horde so Popular?
« Reply #77 on: August 01, 2011, 11:03:18 PM »
They'll never release Pandarens as a playable race, because it means an entire game they can't sell to the China market (Chinese law forbids pandas or panda-likenesses depicted involved in violence). China's just too big of a sales pool to give up for the sake of lore.

Offline Callie Del Noire

Re: (WoW) Why the Alliance Hate and Why is the Horde so Popular?
« Reply #78 on: August 02, 2011, 02:54:38 PM »
Well they could do what they do to the undead and reskin them. I want mah drunk panda death knight!

Offline Aiden

Re: (WoW) Why the Alliance Hate and Why is the Horde so Popular?
« Reply #79 on: August 02, 2011, 03:50:26 PM »
I would rather see Slyvanus redeemed then become a villain, Blizzard loves redemption.

I don't think Blizzard gives a crap on China's standing, this game can be controversial depending on how you spin something.  Panderia was a joke concept that grew like crazy, I still hope one day they will bring them in but they would not side with one faction over the other so this game does need a neutral faction.

Offline meikle

Re: (WoW) Why the Alliance Hate and Why is the Horde so Popular?
« Reply #80 on: August 02, 2011, 04:40:03 PM »
They'll never release Pandarens as a playable race, because it means an entire game they can't sell to the China market (Chinese law forbids pandas or panda-likenesses depicted involved in violence). China's just too big of a sales pool to give up for the sake of lore.

Nobody seems to have stopped WarCraft 3 from being played in China.

Offline Fieryone

Re: (WoW) Why the Alliance Hate and Why is the Horde so Popular?
« Reply #81 on: August 02, 2011, 05:30:17 PM »
Ya know, I'm curious. How many of you play on Moon Guard and roleplay? If you do, where do you usually hang out?

I only ask because I play on Moon Guard as a B. Elf Mage named Nelloran, usually at Silvermoon when I'm not leveling him. I would love to play with you guys.
« Last Edit: August 02, 2011, 05:34:02 PM by Fieryone »

Offline KaylaM

Re: (WoW) Why the Alliance Hate and Why is the Horde so Popular?
« Reply #82 on: August 02, 2011, 05:50:31 PM »
Never, ever admit to playing on Moon Guard. Its like admitting that you have sex with giraffes.

I don't see how you could pull off a "Redeption" for Sylvie W. She's unambigiously evil, commiting genocide and atrocities in the name of increasing her own personal power. The text deliberately draws compariosns between her and Arthas, pointing out that she's doing the same things as he did.
« Last Edit: August 02, 2011, 05:53:23 PM by KaylaM »

Offline Fieryone

Re: (WoW) Why the Alliance Hate and Why is the Horde so Popular?
« Reply #83 on: August 02, 2011, 05:53:35 PM »
It's just a server, and yes I do know its reputation, I see no reason to not admit I play on it. I have played with plenty of fine people on the server.



And on the subject of Slyvanis I have to agree, I don't see anyway you can make her redeemable, especially after playing through the Worgen Starting Zone where she pretty much goes behind Garrosh's back to use the Plague to convert all of Gilneas into more Forsaken soldiers. I wouldn't mind seeing her be the big bad of the next expansion or of some large in game event.
« Last Edit: August 02, 2011, 05:58:15 PM by Fieryone »

Offline Anjasa

Re: (WoW) Why the Alliance Hate and Why is the Horde so Popular?
« Reply #84 on: August 02, 2011, 06:03:23 PM »
Ya know, I'm curious. How many of you play on Moon Guard and roleplay? If you do, where do you usually hang out?

I only ask because I play on Moon Guard as a B. Elf Mage named Nelloran, usually at Silvermoon when I'm not leveling him. I would love to play with you guys.

I used to lead the Burning Tusk Tribe on Moon Guard until we quit in May :) There's a lot of amazing people on that server. The reputation is highly undeserved and mostly fueled by trolls, many of whom are from other servers.

I was Anjasa / Idryl / Teeva over there. Anjasa used to always be around Silvermoon.

Offline Fieryone

Re: (WoW) Why the Alliance Hate and Why is the Horde so Popular?
« Reply #85 on: August 02, 2011, 06:07:19 PM »
Ahh I see Anjasa, thats sad your guild shut down, what was your guild about if I may ask?

Offline Anjasa

Re: (WoW) Why the Alliance Hate and Why is the Horde so Popular?
« Reply #86 on: August 02, 2011, 06:15:43 PM »
Oh the guild is still there :D We handed control over to one of our members. It's a heavy RP guild.

www.burningtusktribe.com if you were interested :) Westly is the leader now, and there's a lot of really amazing people in the guild. I think they still do Thursday taverns at World's End in Shattrath at 9:30pm which is an open RP event, and they host tons of other events as well. Feel free to ask any of them about upcoming open RP events if you want :D

Offline Fieryone

Re: (WoW) Why the Alliance Hate and Why is the Horde so Popular?
« Reply #87 on: August 02, 2011, 06:18:39 PM »
Ahh, I must have misread that my bad. Did you transfer your character off Moon Guard then? I'll also have to go check that out then! Sounds like it'd be fun.

Offline Anjasa

Re: (WoW) Why the Alliance Hate and Why is the Horde so Popular?
« Reply #88 on: August 02, 2011, 06:21:29 PM »
I quit WoW, actually, after playing for 5+ years. It just wasn't holding my attention any more, but I do miss the random Silvermoon roleplay. Most of the people I had the pleasure of roleplaying with on Moon Guard over the years were absolutely wonderful, in character and out.

Online TheGlyphstone

Re: (WoW) Why the Alliance Hate and Why is the Horde so Popular?
« Reply #89 on: August 02, 2011, 06:22:24 PM »
You mean Silverporn city?  ;D

Offline Fieryone

Re: (WoW) Why the Alliance Hate and Why is the Horde so Popular?
« Reply #90 on: August 02, 2011, 06:41:52 PM »
I think you mean Goldshire, because honestly I haven't seen that outside of the obvious trolls.

@Anjasa: Ahh yeah that's understandable, I got back into it this year after playing Vanilla way back when it was a long hard grind.

Offline Aiden

Re: (WoW) Why the Alliance Hate and Why is the Horde so Popular?
« Reply #91 on: August 02, 2011, 07:06:03 PM »
Never, ever admit to playing on Moon Guard. Its like admitting that you have sex with giraffes.

I don't see how you could pull off a "Redeption" for Sylvie W. She's unambigiously evil, commiting genocide and atrocities in the name of increasing her own personal power. The text deliberately draws compariosns between her and Arthas, pointing out that she's doing the same things as he did.

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Re: (WoW) Why the Alliance Hate and Why is the Horde so Popular?
« Reply #92 on: August 02, 2011, 07:12:15 PM »
I quit WoW, actually, after playing for 5+ years. It just wasn't holding my attention any more, but I do miss the random Silvermoon roleplay. Most of the people I had the pleasure of roleplaying with on Moon Guard over the years were absolutely wonderful, in character and out.

You were on MG?  So was I.  It was enjoyable for a long while until the guild I was a part of basically fell apart and the three year+ story arc we had been working failed.  Sad times.

Offline Krysia

Re: (WoW) Why the Alliance Hate and Why is the Horde so Popular?
« Reply #93 on: August 02, 2011, 07:19:51 PM »
Well I started out as an Alliance player and I ended up not liking it. Hordies were jerks to us and of course the server I started on (Dark Iron) was a PVE server. I hated the fact that when I was just doing quest I'd get ganked for no other reason then being an Alliance character. On top of that I think the Alliance races look retarded save for the Worgen and Draenei. The night elves to me look as if they were put together in a puppet factory, humans looked retarded and well all around ghetto in my eyes. Gnomes... nuff said. Dwarves well I didn't mind them actually, it was the first game I had played with them where their females didn't look like 12 year old pedo bait (Forsaken World & Lineage 2). The only Alliance race I actually enjoyed was the Draenei pre-cata, to me they had the most believable body structure in the game at the time, but my first love when I got BC was the blood elves. I had one on Dark Iron I got up to 30 soloing.

I soon moved over to my home realm of Malfurion after that. I had family on there who helped me get going with some gold. I made a hunter to mess around with that ended up making it to 85 after several skill tree fixes. I fell in love with the stories on the horde side and just well their we're not pansies attitude. I hated hearing "For the Light" "Light bless you.." I was definitely more happy hearing "BLOOD AND THUNDER!" "FOR THE HORDE!" I forced myself to play every race in the game at least to level 20 and find it hard to play an undead period. Where as the new story is awesome I just can't do it.

After Cata dropped a group of friends and I made a worgen raid party. We were doing awesome and got up to level 60 with them. 2 of the members were hard core alliance people and well due to the age old fight our raid group kind of just vanished. So I started my own guild on Malfurion and have a 3 man dungeon team with my Tauren Paladin in the lead. I love the horde because it just fits my personality better. I hate the alliance because their pansies who prance around with rainbows and glitter. Just my opinion though.

Offline Anjasa

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« Reply #94 on: August 02, 2011, 07:23:53 PM »
You were on MG?  So was I.  It was enjoyable for a long while until the guild I was a part of basically fell apart and the three year+ story arc we had been working failed.  Sad times.

What guild was that?

Offline Aiden

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« Reply #95 on: August 02, 2011, 07:25:33 PM »
Krysia gets it!

For the Horde!

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« Reply #96 on: August 02, 2011, 07:27:19 PM »
What guild was that?

House Dawnhaven which became just Dawnhaven.  I used to be a part of the Burning Tusk Tribe (more commonly known as BTT) and Couriers of Compassion.

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Re: (WoW) Why the Alliance Hate and Why is the Horde so Popular?
« Reply #97 on: August 02, 2011, 07:27:53 PM »
Well I started out as an Alliance player and I ended up not liking it. Hordies were jerks to us and of course the server I started on (Dark Iron) was a PVE server. I hated the fact that when I was just doing quest I'd get ganked for no other reason then being an Alliance character. On top of that I think the Alliance races look retarded save for the Worgen and Draenei. The night elves to me look as if they were put together in a puppet factory, humans looked retarded and well all around ghetto in my eyes. Gnomes... nuff said. Dwarves well I didn't mind them actually, it was the first game I had played with them where their females didn't look like 12 year old pedo bait (Forsaken World & Lineage 2). The only Alliance race I actually enjoyed was the Draenei pre-cata, to me they had the most believable body structure in the game at the time, but my first love when I got BC was the blood elves. I had one on Dark Iron I got up to 30 soloing.

I soon moved over to my home realm of Malfurion after that. I had family on there who helped me get going with some gold. I made a hunter to mess around with that ended up making it to 85 after several skill tree fixes. I fell in love with the stories on the horde side and just well their we're not pansies attitude. I hated hearing "For the Light" "Light bless you.." I was definitely more happy hearing "BLOOD AND THUNDER!" "FOR THE HORDE!" I forced myself to play every race in the game at least to level 20 and find it hard to play an undead period. Where as the new story is awesome I just can't do it.

After Cata dropped a group of friends and I made a worgen raid party. We were doing awesome and got up to level 60 with them. 2 of the members were hard core alliance people and well due to the age old fight our raid group kind of just vanished. So I started my own guild on Malfurion and have a 3 man dungeon team with my Tauren Paladin in the lead. I love the horde because it just fits my personality better. I hate the alliance because their pansies who prance around with rainbows and glitter. Just my opinion though.


*waves a little Horde flag* For the Horde, damn it!

Offline Anjasa

Re: (WoW) Why the Alliance Hate and Why is the Horde so Popular?
« Reply #98 on: August 02, 2011, 07:30:33 PM »
House Dawnhaven which became just Dawnhaven.  I used to be a part of the Burning Tusk Tribe (more commonly known as BTT) and Couriers of Compassion.

Aww, who were you in the Tribe? :o

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« Reply #99 on: August 02, 2011, 07:37:42 PM »
Zarijin.  I wasn't there too long though.