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Gavlois · « **Reply #600 on:** July 21, 2012, 12:12:31 AM »

Oh so he starts with a dorans. Thats interesting. How is his ganking ability?

SinXAzgard21 · « **Reply #601 on:** July 21, 2012, 12:35:33 AM »

Quote from: Gavlois on July 21, 2012, 12:12:31 AM

Oh so he starts with a dorans. Thats interesting. How is his ganking ability?

Since his slow and his main ability leaves him stationary, it is something you have to work on. Honestly I don't gank unless it is a for sure kill with fear and drain or I have crowstorm to hop a wall.

Shjade · « **Reply #602 on:** July 21, 2012, 01:21:33 AM »

Quote from: SinXAzgard21 on July 21, 2012, 12:08:11 AM

Doran ring, drain and smite is all you need.

If you have runes.

SinXAzgard21 · « **Reply #603 on:** July 21, 2012, 01:34:57 PM »

Quote from: Shjade on July 21, 2012, 01:21:33 AM

If you have runes.

I've done it at summoner level 5 when I started to learn jungling with fiddle. So yeah I had this shitty runes but the point I am trying to make is you don't need to have tier 3 runes to jungle.

Gavlois · « **Reply #604 on:** July 21, 2012, 01:55:04 PM »

So I guess that due to the nature of his abilities flash is quite important?

Ryven · « **Reply #605 on:** July 21, 2012, 02:34:27 PM »

Quote from: Gavlois on July 21, 2012, 01:55:04 PM

So I guess that due to the nature of his abilities flash is quite important?

Flash is invaluable to almost every champion. There are very few who can benefit more from taking other summoner spells because it is so versatile.

Gavlois · « **Reply #606 on:** July 21, 2012, 02:38:43 PM »

I know that those with a wall jumping ability can live without it, although a double flash is great for surprising your opponents. Jax and Kat can ward hop, so they can sometimes go without it.

Ryven · « **Reply #607 on:** July 21, 2012, 02:40:32 PM »

Quote from: Gavlois on July 21, 2012, 02:38:43 PM

I know that those with a wall jumping ability can live without it, although a double flash is great for surprising your opponents. Jax and Kat can ward hop, so they can sometimes go without it.

Even those who have abilities like that can benefit because it is your ace in the hole when your regular abilities are on cooldown.

Gavlois · « **Reply #608 on:** July 21, 2012, 02:44:06 PM »

Yeah I can't remember the times when that happens to me. I think I get away from a Kat who just used Shunpo, but then she surprises me with flash. I gotta stop forgetting that.

Ryven · « **Reply #609 on:** July 21, 2012, 02:45:56 PM »

Quote from: Gavlois on July 21, 2012, 02:44:06 PM

Yeah I can't remember the times when that happens to me. I think I get away from a Kat who just used Shunpo, but then she surprises me with flash. I gotta stop forgetting that.

Also remember that while Kat can shunpo, if she's running away and there is nothing to shunpo to, she can use flash to escape without anything to 'anchor' it.

Gavlois · « **Reply #610 on:** July 21, 2012, 02:47:27 PM »

Yeah, thats why I like chasing her through the jungle. "Nowhere to shunpo to now!" When I know she doesnt have flash.

Ryven · « **Reply #611 on:** July 21, 2012, 02:59:43 PM »

Quote from: Gavlois on July 21, 2012, 02:47:27 PM

Yeah, thats why I like chasing her through the jungle. "Nowhere to shunpo to now!" When I know she doesnt have flash.

That's her own fault then, and if you catch her, she deserved it.

Gavlois · « **Reply #612 on:** July 21, 2012, 03:04:28 PM »

It was quite close actually. She got back to her turret, but I still managed to dive.

Shjade · « **Reply #613 on:** July 21, 2012, 03:51:29 PM »

Quote from: Gavlois on July 21, 2012, 02:47:27 PM

Yeah, thats why I like chasing her through the jungle. "Nowhere to shunpo to now!" When I know she doesnt have flash.

Which is why Kat, like some other champions with hops, benefit greatly from carrying a ward in the jungle. Pop the ward over a wall, shunpo to one of the monsters on the other side of the wall, tada.

And yes, Fiddles really needs flash to pull off the best crowstorms so you can channel from far enough out to avoid interruption/being seen and then get that extra jump distance forward to get into the enemy team.

Gavlois · « **Reply #614 on:** July 21, 2012, 03:56:32 PM »

Does crowstorm have a jump as the skill itself?

Shjade · « **Reply #615 on:** July 21, 2012, 07:50:16 PM »

Yeah, when you first cast Crowstorm you're rooted in place while you channel for I think 1 second, maybe 1.5, then you appear wherever you'd targeted the spell when you started casting. It's about as far as two flashes, more or less.

Gavlois · « **Reply #616 on:** July 21, 2012, 07:51:50 PM »

Thats quite far. You can move and flash once it's active right?

Shjade · « **Reply #617 on:** July 21, 2012, 08:23:17 PM »

Right. His ult just deals damage to everything around him for a few seconds after the channeling finishes. He can move, attack, cast, whatever he wants while it's active. So generally the goal is to land as close to the center of the enemy team as possible (for maximum damage) and immediately cast his silence to bounce around the group and disrupt their ability to attack/escape, fear the highest priority target and start draining whoever he can (or, alternately, activate Zhonya's to not die/get CC'd himself).

SinXAzgard21 · « **Reply #618 on:** July 21, 2012, 08:25:51 PM »

Sad that Fiddles stats do not scale very well... He is still a decent champ but has tons of counters.

Gavlois · « **Reply #619 on:** July 21, 2012, 08:30:12 PM »

Speaking of Zhonya's I had an embarrassing game. Not exactly sure of how it worked, I was playing morgana, and I attempted to cast her ult after I used Zhonya's, making a total fool out of myself.

Changingsaint · « **Reply #620 on:** July 23, 2012, 09:37:00 PM »

If it makes you feel better, I was playing sona once, and eyeing a 4v5 (My team being the 4), as I diligently floated my way to the battle... And quickly cast R, Iron Solari Locket, and then Reverie....

And then I remembered I was WATCHING the fight as I made my way there. I was not actually there.... Imagine my feelings.

Shjade · « **Reply #621 on:** July 23, 2012, 11:15:10 PM »

Quote from: Changingsaint on July 23, 2012, 09:37:00 PM

If it makes you feel better, I was playing sona once, and eyeing a 4v5 (My team being the 4), as I diligently floated my way to the battle... And quickly cast R, Iron Solari Locket, and then Reverie....

And then I remembered I was WATCHING the fight as I made my way there. I was not actually there.... Imagine my feelings.

...you poor, poor thing. D:

Changingsaint · « **Reply #622 on:** July 23, 2012, 11:32:29 PM »

Quote from: Shjade on July 23, 2012, 11:15:10 PM

...you poor, poor thing. D:

Thankfully my team ROCKED that fight since I helped our AD get super fed, and our Kayle Top was crushing! And after that I finally floated with them to blow up the enemy nexus.

....Was pretty funny though.

Cybrewaste · « **Reply #623 on:** July 24, 2012, 11:30:39 AM »

Quote from: Changingsaint on July 23, 2012, 09:37:00 PM

If it makes you feel better, I was playing sona once, and eyeing a 4v5 (My team being the 4), as I diligently floated my way to the battle... And quickly cast R, Iron Solari Locket, and then Reverie....

And then I remembered I was WATCHING the fight as I made my way there. I was not actually there.... Imagine my feelings.

Quote from: Gavlois on July 21, 2012, 08:30:12 PM

Speaking of Zhonya's I had an embarrassing game. Not exactly sure of how it worked, I was playing morgana, and I attempted to cast her ult after I used Zhonya's, making a total fool out of myself.

These feels, I know them!

I just cannot seem to grasp Zhonya's in my hands. My head understands what I need to do, but then my hands are like NOPE!

I once ulted wolves as Malphite because I was watching a fight on the other side of the map.

I am just terrible at League of Legends.

Shjade · « **Reply #624 on:** July 24, 2012, 12:13:55 PM »

I don't think I've ever triggered items/ults because I thought I was closer to a fight than I actually was, but I have the opposite problem of almost never remembering to activate items like Zhonya's/Randuin's while I'm in a fight. It's only after I die that I'm like, oh right, that's a thing I should have done. Shit.