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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #575 on: July 15, 2012, 02:43:37 PM »
That guide has not been updated in a while.

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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #576 on: July 15, 2012, 03:12:23 PM »
That guide looks a bit weird, among other things it assumes you will be hitting your Gale on lane as harass non-ignisificant amount of time, which isn't happening if your opponents has boots (and pretty much every single mid should start with boots) and has some skill at dodging skillshots. And it has clarity as recommended summoner spell. Over flash.

The item section leads me to believe he mistook Janna for Anivia or something.

Anyway, I think I should talk to my friends to let me play more AP Janna mid.

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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #577 on: July 15, 2012, 03:14:07 PM »
AP Janna mid is actually something that's been played in high-level tournaments now and then. It's very uncommon, but it can be done effectively.

That said, I wouldn't recommend it.

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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #578 on: July 15, 2012, 03:18:35 PM »
I have done it before. Its not the most optimal mid choice, but its extremely fun pushes like a maniac. Her problem is her lack of damage lategame.

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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #579 on: July 19, 2012, 10:58:24 AM »
Evelynn's changes have been implemented.  I've played her once or twice, and I like her new abilities.  I'm reserving judgment until I play her more, but I can say that movement speed is really what gives her the killing power.  Without any kind of ability to close the distance between her and her target, her movement speed must be high in order to catch her enemies before they get too far, but I've found that once she's on them, it's hard to shake her off.

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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #580 on: July 19, 2012, 11:57:27 AM »
Nifty, I'll have to check out the changes later then. Got stuck playing Eve in ARAM earlier this week and it was painful trying to do anything to anyone whenever I wasn't in stealth with her almost-no-range abilities for her entire kit. Having longer range on her pokes should help a bit if nothing else.

I don't suppose they did a remodel on the character's look while they were at it?

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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #581 on: July 19, 2012, 07:09:43 PM »
Nifty, I'll have to check out the changes later then. Got stuck playing Eve in ARAM earlier this week and it was painful trying to do anything to anyone whenever I wasn't in stealth with her almost-no-range abilities for her entire kit. Having longer range on her pokes should help a bit if nothing else.

I don't suppose they did a remodel on the character's look while they were at it?

Nope.  Same look, same voice, just new abilities. 

I need to learn how to jungle. :/

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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #582 on: July 20, 2012, 03:51:42 AM »
Xin is back to being a homing missile of destruction.
Aim, let go, and murder the hell out of everyone.
Welcome back to two years ago (I'm going to jungle the hell out of him until he's nerfed again)

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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #583 on: July 20, 2012, 01:06:16 PM »
What exactly is jungling, again?

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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #584 on: July 20, 2012, 01:55:19 PM »
What exactly is jungling, again?

You level your champion by killing the mobs in the jungle rather than defending or pushing a lane to level.  The advantages are that you don't have to share experience and gold between yourself and another champion, you're usually left alone for the first couple of levels, and you're off the radar for a while because no one knows where you are.  After you're a sufficient level, you usually coordinate a gank on one of the enemy champions.

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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #585 on: July 20, 2012, 02:12:34 PM »
That's what I thought, thanks.

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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #586 on: July 20, 2012, 02:22:07 PM »
As a side note however, jungling should probably not be attempted until level 20 since you do not have tier 3 runes. The only exception I find is Warwick. I made a smurf account to try and jungle Warwick at level 1, and it turned out nicely.

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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #587 on: July 20, 2012, 02:46:26 PM »
As a side note however, jungling should probably not be attempted until level 20 since you do not have tier 3 runes. The only exception I find is Warwick. I made a smurf account to try and jungle Warwick at level 1, and it turned out nicely.

Yeah, without proper runes, it can get kinda dodgy.  Armor is a good thing to have when doing it so you're not completely obliterated by the mobs.

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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #588 on: July 20, 2012, 05:30:43 PM »
Unless you're playing Mundo, then you just stack HP runes instead.

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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #589 on: July 20, 2012, 05:39:37 PM »
Unless you're playing Mundo, then you just stack HP runes instead.

I've never seen a mundo jungle.

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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #590 on: July 20, 2012, 05:44:05 PM »
Really? He's one of the top tier ones, though personally I prefer him as a laner. He can gank well thanks to his cleaver and ult, though he is only effective once he levels up to 6, or else he's too slow.

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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #591 on: July 20, 2012, 07:25:16 PM »
As a side note however, jungling should probably not be attempted until level 20 since you do not have tier 3 runes. The only exception I find is Warwick. I made a smurf account to try and jungle Warwick at level 1, and it turned out nicely.

Fiddle is the easiest to jungle with as is shaco, just have to know the spawn times with him to place 3 jitb.  You don't need to be level 20 either.

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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #592 on: July 20, 2012, 07:27:47 PM »
I've failed as Shaco each time. Do the jitb's shoot the nearest target?

Offline SinXAzgard21

Re: League of Legends
« Reply #593 on: July 20, 2012, 07:32:20 PM »
I've failed as Shaco each time. Do the jitb's shoot the nearest target?

I drop then where blue spawns three of them and a smite kill blue.  But yeah they hit the nearest but they eat the small minions with him and then tear him up.  Shaco, Udyr and Rammus I feel have the fastest clear times.

Offline Shjade

Re: League of Legends
« Reply #594 on: July 20, 2012, 07:41:58 PM »
Fiddle is the easiest to jungle with as is shaco, just have to know the spawn times with him to place 3 jitb.  You don't need to be level 20 either.

Fiddle is an easy jungle...if he's undisturbed. He's extremely easy to counter-jungle, especially in the early levels, since he basically does no damage at all and has no escapes.

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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #595 on: July 20, 2012, 08:17:12 PM »
I see. I'll have to try fiddle and shaco again. I tried fiddle when I had no idea what jungling was, and I drained the golem but didn`t have smite. I was like, wtf how do people do this

Offline Shjade

Re: League of Legends
« Reply #596 on: July 20, 2012, 08:33:22 PM »
You don't really need smite for Fiddle's jungle, technically, if you get drain and health pots. He can just barely survive blue golem without a leash.

You want smite desperately, though (and should always have it as a jungler regardless).

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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #597 on: July 20, 2012, 08:39:26 PM »
I know that now lol. Not when I was level 5 and having fun figuring out how to kill the turret without dying in three hits xD

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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #598 on: July 20, 2012, 08:40:58 PM »
I've never seen a mundo jungle.

Just for the hell of it, Moscow 5 jungling Mundo. (If it doesn't do it automatically, skip ahead to 18:55 to get to the start of the game.)

[Kings of Europe] Grand Finals CLG.EU vs Moscow 5 Game 1

Edit: I should've looked for a game where they weren't up against CLG.EU. For some reason that matchup is always so one-sided in CLG.EU's favor that it makes M5 look like they don't even know how to play. xD
« Last Edit: July 20, 2012, 09:11:14 PM by Shjade »

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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #599 on: July 21, 2012, 12:08:11 AM »
You don't really need smite for Fiddle's jungle, technically, if you get drain and health pots. He can just barely survive blue golem without a leash.

You want smite desperately, though (and should always have it as a jungler regardless).

Doran ring, drain and smite is all you need.