Twilight? *snickers* You're not a fan of politics, are you, Nyk?
See, the Sabbat is perfect for mindless brutesquadding with religious overtones thrown in. So... in a lot of ways its a lot like the Crusades. Fitting, no? After all, the Sword of Caine is engaged in a millenia long crusade against the (allegedly mythical) Antideluvians and their Elder pawns. The problem with the Sabbat is two-fold.
One- Players. The typical Sabbat player (sadly) couldn't politic himself out of high school with a copy of Mean Girls in one arm and the entire series run of Beverly Hills 90210 in the other. The typical Sabbat player is as two dimensional as his PotenceCelerityObfuscateFortitudeSerpentisProtean having character is.
Two- Characters. Not only the characters themselves, but the concept as viewed through the setting. The Sword of Caine is supposed to be comprised of brainwashed Neonate and Ancillae grade Licks who passionate and deeply believe in the legends taught to them by the True'd Shovelheads who survived a decade or so of being cannon fodder; the aforementioned (almost) Elder Shovelheads who are True (finally) and are now in positions like Priest, Ductus, and if they're extremely lucky maybe the odd Bishop, Templar, and Black Hand member; a smattering of Vampires literally old enough to remember that the Sabbat was not a religious movement at first; and lastly the obscenely powerful bastards like Moncada who are EXACTLY THE SORT OF CREATURE THEY'RE CLAIMING TO BE FIGHTING AGAINST. However, 90% of the characters (both PC and NPC) are designed to be, at best, two dimensional mockeries and at worst min maxed combat wombats that were designed to 'win the game'.
Now, I'm not Trolling you or anyone else in this thread just to be a dick. Phyr and I are very close rl friends, and I was just messing with her, buuuuut accusing me of being some sort of Twilight junky because I prefer a game where you have to think (like the Camarilla or a FoS game) is exactly the sort of gauntlet throwdown I just can't resist.
I'm not mad, by any means, but I just couldn't NOT reply!