This scared me a bit- (Advice please?)

[Broken Knight]

Yeah, I know it's hard to read. It says:

"I DO NOT KNOW WHO YOU ARE OR WAHT YOU ARE ....NO MORE ROLE PLAYING. THIS IS THE MOTHER!!! WHOEVER IT IS...YOU ARE A SICK PERSON TO BE SPEAKING TO AN UNDERAGE PERSON. I AM TURNING THIS OVER TO THE STATE POLICE."

Okay, first, let me just start by saying that I assumed she was 18+ from the other site that I'd been with.

After that, I know that there isn't anything legally I've done wrong. It's not like I ever said that we should go meet up and have a fling or what-not. Simple role play, nothing different from anything I've done on Elli.

Anyone else ever have something like this? Because I'm doing a complete 'Aw, crap -Face desk-'

[Greenthorn]

*stops drooling over the avatar to post*

Well BK, this is why we joined Elliquiy..to RP with adults...and well...why I am so damn picky on who I associate with.

*nods*

[MagicalPen]

My Advice:

RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!!!!!

[Broken Knight]

Yeah, she wasn't from Elli, but she was from an 18+ site.

Can't run for the hills. It's the intarwebs.

(I play as my avatar in Rp. <3)

[Greenthorn]

Yeah, she wasn't from Elli, but she was from an 18+ site.

Can't run for the hills. It's the intarwebs.

(I play as my avatar in Rp. <3)

Ohhhh BK...when you said wolf furry I pictured all mushy gushy cuddly!

*swoons*

/hijack

[Broken Knight]

-Laughs- God, no. I've always played a big, tough wolf. -Nod nod-

[Trieste]

Moms have been known to go on their children's computers/screen names and do such things. There are also groups that act as 'bait' to internet predators, and they have been known to catch non-predators in the crossfire. ("Perverted Justice" is the name of the only one I know... and I don't know if they're in operation anymore.)

If the person presented themselves as 18, you didn't try to meet up with her in real life, and it was just roleplay, I really wouldn't worry about it too much. Especially if both your characters were of age. I wouldn't worry about it for two reasons: 1) What's done is done, and you can't undo it. You could delete logs but that would get you into even more trouble IF this person goes to the police and IF they come to take a look at you. 2) It could very well have been just a bluff to get you to leave the girl the hell alone. If it wasn't a bluff and Mom brings something to the police, they could also not worry about it, since you didn't try to do anything IRL.

I'd definitely block the HELL out of that screen name, though, because no roleplay is good enough for me to want to deal with that crap.

[Broken Knight]

Oh, I already took care of blocking the IM names. As for the roleplay, it was 18+, but I don't keep logs of any of my IMs, simply for the same reason that she got caught; don't want anyone finding something out that I wouldn't want them to see.

[Greenthorn]

(*steals the avatar*)

[Broken Knight]

-Laughs- Oh, God, I'll just send you a PM.

[Paradox]

Are you sure that it isn't just someone playing a joke on you?

[Broken Knight]

Considering the little message that people can put under their names for everyone to read was listed as "THIS IS ------'S MOTHER, REMOVE HER FROM YOUR LIST!', I very much doubt it.

[Sherona]

I found my 17 year old stepdaughter chatting with this fellow who later tured out to be twenty nine years old, at the time she was fifteen. I keep close eye on her computer priviledges, she has no computer access outside of the main room in the house. I don't snoop but occasionally I go over and look over her shoulder...if she immediately switches windows I check.

When I found her givng her mothers home address to this man (I didn't know was 29 yet) I stopped her right then, I did look in her logs (I make her keep them on) and there was quite a bit of sex talk.

Now I did not do what this person did but I did write to him telling him that the person he was chatting wtih was under the age of eighteen, and that she did mislead him but the matter was now he knew and he was not to contact this IM address again. I blocked him after. and she got completely grounded..>.>

[Moondazed]

I agree that you're probably in the clear, but this brings to mind the fact that I really wish that Elliquiy could check ages by some sort of identifier so I KNEW I was dealing with someone who was legal.  That's why I'm so sensitive to immaturity.  I have a son who just turned 18, so it's very real to me, the fact that kids can pretend to be something they aren't online and get themselves in over their heads.  I know, I know, I sound like a crotchety old lady :P

[Trieste]

It's okay, 'Dazed. You're a very loveable crotchety old lady. *nodnods* :D

[Moondazed]

Awww... thank you, Trieste! *blush*

[Broken Knight]

I can understand the whole being pissed about her daughter being underage, and hey, I would be too.

I just am a little off-put by the whole 'zOMG! STATE POLICE?!?!' part of it.

I'm 23, which is why anything under 18 would weird me out as well. Honestly, I'm kinda wacky about who's behind the monitor on the other end.

[Trieste]

Well, I mean, there are people out there who won't take "Please, my daughter is only fourteen and I would appreciate if you would leave her alone" for an answer. I can't blame the mom, if it WAS the mom, for feeling like she has to threaten legal action.

On the other hand, that kid had better be getting the spanking of her life, and total grounding.

On the other other hand (just call me Ganesha, right?), there are some people on the 'net who go for drama, and would do such a thing just to stir up excitement. It isn't pleasant to think about, but they are out there. ANother reason to just sit tight and leave it alone... and check your playmates more carefully, possibly.

[Broken Knight]

I've already got it all blocked and locked, but beyond that, I don't know anything else possible to do.

Like I said, it's not like I was ever like 'Let's meet up IRL!', at all. Just Rp. But, myeh, I'm neurotic.

[Moondazed]

Well, the message from this is probably something along the lines of 'be very cautious about who you go in a sexual direction with'.  I really don't think the mother has a legal leg to stand on, and I suspect she sent that hoping it would make you think twice about who you sexually rp with in the future :)

[Broken Knight]

True, and I will, but I'm also not psychic. If a female tells me that she's 18, I've only that, and my instinct, to go on.

[Sherona]

Well, me myself and I. I won't enter games with someone that I watch and tehy do not have a clear sense of maturity about them. If they can not hold a proper conversation without wigging out, or if they can not hold a proper conversation without spinning out of control, or if I have any doubts what so ever on their mental maturity then I say hold up wait.

So Yes OOC chat does effect my desires to play wtih someone..which is why I don't do group things too much, less of a way for me to control who I game with.

[Broken Knight]

I knew her via the other boards before we got into messengers. Even after that, I never really thought that she was younger than what she said. Well, I haven't any standing Rps at the moment right now, anyway.

[Trieste]

Could always just stick to threads for a while, but I don't know how much safer that makes you feel. *grins*

[Broken Knight]

Not a whole lot. But, like I said. 0 active Rps.

[Avi]

I wouldn't worry to much about it.  With my limited legal knowledge... I doubt you are at fault.  You were led to believe that the person whom you were interacting with was of legal age.  Therefore, it is their fault if they were underage, there was no way you could have known.  Now, if they'd told you, and you'd been "Oh... oh well, we can still RP.", then there would be reason to be concerned. 

However, since you weren't foolish, I think you're in the clear. :)  Probably, like others have said, just the mom trying to scare you off and warn you.

[Kittii]

As long as there was never an exchange of personal information or deliberate statements/attempts to meet each other in person... You haven't done anything illegal. Considering her association is through an 18+ website, you are already not liable because she committed fraud.

:D So perk up and RolePlay!!  :-*

[Broken Knight]

Heh. Nothing happend yet, sooo. We'll see. Don't even know a first name for her, so I'm just going to chill unless some blue suits and silver badges come for me.

[Lilian]

At most, you're soliciting a minor for sex, and.. gods.. what's it called when you show a minor explicit material?


If it helps you feel any better, at 13, I was doing a lot of scenes with far... uh'm.. more unconventional means of.. interaction.. than most people on this site would dare. Only a crazy transgendered drama-queen got me kicked off of Tapestries. =.=

Grr. =.=

[Broken Knight]

At most, you're soliciting a minor for sex

Yeah, why does THAT not make me feel any better?

[Lilian]

Pft. XD  Well, in any case, mom should take better care of the kid. If she lies, it's not really your fault. The FBI looks for people who get really interested in kids _after_ they find out they're kids. *Fuzzes*

[Broken Knight]

Yeah, like I said, I've got a legal background from classes I've taken in college, and I know a ton of laws and the penalties they carry. I can't think of one law that would apply to this, or even it's penalty. It's like I always tell people, it's just text on a monitor, don't take it so seriously all the time. >< (Although, should still be 18+ before going to these -Insert string of "Sailor approved" language- sites)

[Greenthorn]

(*stops by just to see the avatar*)

[Broken Knight]

-Snerk- If only I didn't have to go to work, Green.

[Greenthorn]

-Snerk- If only I didn't have to go to work, Green.

(oh that's okay BK...Your avatar remains behind *wink*)

[Broken Knight]

-Laughs- I might take it down, since it's my personafication and I'm leaving!

[Greenthorn]

-Laughs- I might take it down, since it's my personafication and I'm leaving!

*quickly saves the pic to her comp*

[NightBird]

Could the situation conceivably be against a law? Yeah, probably. Contributing to the delinquency of a minor comes to mind (but not soliciting, given that you weren't seeking to meet). There are situations where it doesn't matter if the underage individual lies about being underage and the adult is still considered responsible. So, yeah, there's risk.

However, I seriously doubt that any law enforcement agency, as overworked as they normally are, would consider this situation worth their while to do much about. You were not trying to discover any of her personal information, you were not trying to meet in person, and you were not pursuing her because she's underage. With how immediately you dropped contact, you also aren't going to raise any red flags by continuing the pursuit now that you know. There's just not much there to be worth the time and expense of law enforcement to pursue.

Sure, the mother was upset. I'd have been, too, what with all the horror stories that are all over the place about what happens to girls who 'talk dirty' on the internet. Her severe tone probably had a lot of panic in it. You can't know what else that woman had just seen as she reviewed what her daughter had been doing. Just because you didn't seek personal information or talk about meeting in person doesn't mean that was universally the case. I can totally appreciate how you feel about the threat, but it's doing what the woman wanted, which is cutting off contact with people she believes put her daughter at risk of kidnapping, rape and death. You know you weren't a predator, but that woman doesn't, and there might have been predators in other material she read before telling everyone on her daughter's 'flirt list' to back off.

Everything honestly should be okay, and the sooner you get back on the horse, so to speak, and do a bit of rp, the less likely this will sour you on it long-term. I'd offer to write with you, but I'm still getting myself back up to speed after my summer's complications.

[Broken Knight]

See, that makes me feel a lot better. I've a lot of criminal law background, but it's in firearms and narcotics, not abuse.

As for my Rping status, there's some Rps that I have here and there, but they're very intermittent and sporatic. I'm fine with being lazy for right now. That and teasing the crap out of Green with my anthro form until she's ready to Rp. >:3

[Le RandomBloke]

Why don't you take a seat?

[Broken Knight]

Oh, crap! -Runs away-

[Paradox]

I just hope she didn't offer you any sweet tea or brownies, then quickly left the room to go retrieve them from the kitchen.

[Broken Knight]

Okay, I don't get that one.

[Paradox]

Every time the pervert walks into the house on To Catch A Predator, the little boy/girl offers them a plate of brownies or asks them if they would like some sweet tea, then promptly leaves the room to go get it. As soon as the kid leaves, Chris Hansen walks in.

[Broken Knight]

Ooooh, you know, I never picked up on that. I always picked up on, why was the male always carrying things with him, I mean, really...

[Greenthorn]

*drools...swoons...smiles*

[Mathim]

Here's my two cents:

As big a bitch as that mother was, I can't imagine what that poor girl is suffering through right now, so compared to what you're worrying about, hers is probably ten times worse. So consider TRUE justice to be served, the little lying brat. The only one liable in that situation is the kid, for lying and committing fraud as we've all pretty much been able to agree on.

And considering how easily free porn/sex stories are obtainable, I doubt the law has any grounds on you at all even if cybering is considered to be soliciting sex. If thirteen year olds like me (ten years ago, mind you) can get their hands on porn with nothing but dial-up and crappy computers, then it's ludicrous to say you were responsible for ANYTHING since if she chose that route to get sexual gratification (or whatever she did it for) instead of looking at other forms of free porn, they wouldn't blame those free porn sites since it's not their fault a computer isn't protected against adult material.

[Moondazed]

As logical as that sounds... logic rarely dictates law :)

[Broken Knight]

True enough, Dazed.

As for the mother, I don't really blame her, I can see where she's coming from. But I've got my own fluffy tail to worry about, ya know?

[Le RandomBloke]

To be fairly honest BK stop worrying about it. Do you honestly think anyone is going to give a rat's ass about such a petty thing? (As in, the police or whatnot :p)

There is a reason that in "How to catch a predator" they actually need the men to come over to the house with condoms and alcohol and whatnot.







So, yea.. and stuff.

[Broken Knight]

lol Okay, maybe I am being paranoid.

[Sherona]

The law states that there has to be intent to actually go and meet an underage child. They get them to go over there so that they can not say "OH I was just playing, wasn't actually going to go"

Also you will note that PJ always plays at being a child...never do they have a child pretend to be an adult. They are out looking for people who are actively looking and preying on children.

I will never go so low as to call that child a 'lying bitch' because..yeah oh my god??. I remember several times as a child I lied abotu my age. I know everyone of my peers did at times too...and if we are really being honest who did not lie about their age at some point in their life?

I hope she got grounded yes, but yeah I am not going to sit here and call her derogatory names. *smiles*

[Greenthorn]

Here's my two cents:

As big a bitch as that mother was, I can't imagine what that poor girl is suffering through right now, so compared to what you're worrying about, hers is probably ten times worse. So consider TRUE justice to be served, the little lying brat. The only one liable in that situation is the kid, for lying and committing fraud as we've all pretty much been able to agree on.

*blinks*

Apparently you don't have children *smiles*  I would have done much worse than what that mother did..errr...actually I did do worse.  I found out my at the time 13 year old was speaking with a 26 year old on yahoo...(but he -knew- her age)and their conversations -were not- sexually oriented no was he trying to meet up with her...but I, being a "bitch" followed the dude around to chat rooms under my daughter's id and outed him *smirks*

So...honestly...if you feel that the child is suffering because of being disciplined and protected, then you would really think my kids are living horrible lives.

[Broken Knight]

Yeah, I don't think the mother did anything wrong, per se. I just kinda went through an 'Oh crap!' phase.