(Beginer Friendly) Star Wars Saga Edition Game set after the KOTOR Games (NCES)

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Latooni Subota

Ah, I see it now. My brain just ignored it because it was written out for some reason. Silly brain.

Edit: Well, bugger all. Since all of my concepts/roles have been neatly sharked, Jedi it is. Someone's gotta keep on eye you guys and make sure everything runs smoothly, after all. Hilariously enough I don't think I've ever actually played a Jedi Knight PrC before.
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  You're certianly welcome to play a Jedi Knight, Latooni.  That said: 

  Mechanic:  No one has the Tech Specialist feat.  (I don't remember if Zaer's character has skill focus mechanics or not.) 
  Doctor:  Zaer doesn't have Skill Focus: for the skill he rolls for medecine.  He deosnt' have Surgical Expertise to let him do surgery in 10 minutes instead of na hour. 

  On the other hand, we dont' have a jedi knight yet, and I'ld lvoe to se eyou play one.
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Cataclysmic Archangel

Quote from: Muse on January 15, 2018, 10:50:00 AM
  You're certianly welcome to play a Jedi Knight, Latooni.  That said: 

  Mechanic:  No one has the Tech Specialist feat.  (I don't remember if Zaer's character has skill focus mechanics or not.) 
  Doctor:  Zaer doesn't have Skill Focus: for the skill he rolls for medecine.  He deosnt' have Surgical Expertise to let him do surgery in 10 minutes instead of na hour. 

  On the other hand, we dont' have a jedi knight yet, and I'ld lvoe to se eyou play one.

What I got from that:  Jedi-Healer and Force-Grease-Monkey.

Triggvi


Muse

  We've got teh ship, TRigg. 

  *Writes Trigg at number 3 on the waiting list* 

  That would be awkward.  What if a second ship's owner materialzies because of player turnover?  What if the first disapears? 

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Triggvi


Chajesdad

Quote from: Cataclysmic Archangel on January 15, 2018, 09:57:13 AM
I was looking at the Katarn armor in Galaxy at War, but that's outside my price range, even without the 20%.  I'm sitting on 27k to work with.  Plus I need something to go pewpew with.
Something to keep in mind, you have a sponsor, so I may be able to assist with the equipment. Let me get our ship and then see what I have to work with.


What were you thinking just now?

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Muse

Sounds like fun. 

(Nothing wrong with two ships, by the way.  Sorry if I'm being confusling.  It's only because I'm cnfusled.  ) 

Catac, an Iron Knight is a rare race of silicon based life forms.  The force users among them are able to interface wtih droids.  They sometimes get droid boddies to move around in and learn the ways organic types use the Force. 
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Cataclysmic Archangel

Quote from: Muse on January 15, 2018, 11:01:55 AM

Catac, an Iron Knight is a rare race of silicon based life forms.  The force users among them are able to interface wtih droids.  They sometimes get droid boddies to move around in and learn the ways organic types use the Force.

That's cool. but the transformer was you mentioning one leaving and getting another.

Quote from: Chajesdad on January 15, 2018, 11:00:47 AM
     Something to keep in mind, you have a sponsor, so I may be able to assist with the equipment. Let me get our ship and then see what I have to work with.

Wasn't sure how that would work if the character is military or not.  Does his 27k just count as 'issued' gear, which his higher rank (level) indicating he can requisition better stuff?  Does he freelance so he gets credits from a sponsor?

etc.

Muse

  Oh, and to further confuzle matters. 

  Latooni, if your'e avoiding a niche because Zaer is covering it, remember Zaer is on the wiating list.  He's not covering anything 'til we loose our frist player. 
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Zaer Darkwail

My char has skill focus: Mechanics and Tech Specialist (so yes, he can modify stuff and is techie even if he did not take but one talent from outlaw tech tree because force adept asks 3 force talents to enter). I take skill focus: Use Force so he can do nicer in treat injury (and spotting dangers, have to like the sense force talent).

Also try squeeze in the Surgical Expertise but considering he uses force to do so....so does he technically conjure tiny blades of forces to do the cutting or overall just tear body open by his bare hands? Or is it more doing surgery without cutting and he sort 'internally' fixes problems without bleeding body on table.

Zaer Darkwail

Quote from: Muse on January 15, 2018, 11:04:44 AM
  Latooni, if your'e avoiding a niche because Zaer is covering it, remember Zaer is on the wiating list.  He's not covering anything 'til we loose our frist player.

Oh yeah, that too as well.

Triggvi

My iron knight would have a translator installed so she could work as protocol droid.

EV-5 is a bad ass medical Droid.

Muse

Catac, your sheet on mythweavers.  HAve you saved it ? I bet if you clicked save the rest of us could see the latest? 
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Cataclysmic Archangel

Quote from: Muse on January 15, 2018, 11:14:46 AM
Catac, your sheet on mythweavers.  HAve you saved it ? I bet if you clicked save the rest of us could see the latest?

Oops.

Saved.

Muse

YEp!  That did it!  Yay! 

Have you ever been able to get any use out of Dodge? 
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Cataclysmic Archangel

I have no idea.  But it seemed prudent to take one or two things to increase defense if I was also taking Draw Fire to taunt. :)

Speaking of... am I correct that my Will Defense remains flat 13, 1 for the feat, 2 for Wisdom... nothing else boosts it, right?

Latooni Subota

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Cataclysmic Archangel

So total character level?

I knew that for Fort and Reflex you only get your armor bonus or the level I thought... that's the point of the various talents and stuff.

Muse

   You write that your classes are Soldier and Elite Trooper?  Could you please specificy how many levels of each? 

I'm counting 7/2, but it would help to actualy have it noted.   

   The Improved Armored Defense talent is pretty useful at this level, usualy?  (Don't forget your level applies to your will defense too.) 

Quote from: Cataclysmic Archangel on January 15, 2018, 11:20:47 AM
I have no idea.  But it seemed prudent to take one or two things to increase defense if I was also taking Draw Fire to taunt. :)

Speaking of... am I correct that my Will Defense remains flat 13, 1 for the feat, 2 for Wisdom... nothing else boosts it, right?

   About Dodge: Grants you +1 reflex defense against a single oponent.  Every round you have to name who that opponent is.   

   Compared to improved defense, which is a flat +1 to every defense, and Martial Arts II, which would be another +1 to reflex defense and would up your unarmed damage to d8—your fists hit like maces! 
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Quote from: Muse on January 15, 2018, 11:28:41 AM
   You write that your classes are Soldier and Elite Trooper?  Could you please specificy how many levels of each? 
yes, 7/2.  updated and saved.


   
QuoteThe Improved Armored Defense talent is pretty useful at this level, usualy?  (Don't forget your level applies to your will defense too.) 

This confuses me a bit.  So if I'm level 9, I get +9 to Will.  But I only get +9 to Reflex if I have the Armored Defense talent (which you've given us with proficiency).  I feel like I'm missing something? 

   
QuoteAbout Dodge: Grants you +1 reflex defense against a single oponent.  Every round you have to name who that opponent is.   

   Compared to improved defense, which is a flat +1 to every defense, and Martial Arts II, which would be another +1 to reflex defense and would up your unarmed damage to d8—your fists hit like maces!

I have Imp Defense already, but hadn't looked at MA2.  Honestly that was just in there as a 'tax' because of Elite Soldier, but I could certianly look into it.  I may also change the Veteran talents out (they seemed pretty interesting to me) and put more into Commando and Armor Mastery.

Muse

  High level heroics are badly limited by using armor unless they take a few talents that turn them into unstoppable juggernaughts. 

Say you had a Jedi Knight (Jedi 8, Jedi KNihgt 1) with Dexterity, constituion, and wisdom att at 14. 

His defenses would look like this: 
Defense: Base + Level + Class + Ability Score = Total
Fort     10 + 9 + 2 + 2 = 23
Refl     10 + 9 + 2 + 2 = 23
Will     10 + 9 + 2 + 2 = 23

Now say that same Jedi Knight, though not proficient in armor, donned a suit of storm trooper armor (+5 Reflex Defense, +2(?) Equipment Bonus to Fortitude Defense.) 
Fort     10 + 9 + 2 + 2 +2= 25
Refl     10 + 5 + 2 + 2 +0= 19
Will     10 + 9 + 2 + 2 +0= 23

Higher fortitude, but his armor bonus replaces his level bonust o reflex defense. 

If that same Jedi had Armored Defense Talent (A bonus in my hous rules) and Improved Armored Defense:
Fort     10 + 9 + 2 + 2 +2 = 25
Refl     10 + 9 + 2 + 2 +2 = 25
Will     10 + 9 + 2 + 2 +0 = 23

And that's just a fairly inexpensive light armor!
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