Beyond Hogwarts, Potter-verse (BON-H; Freeform)

[Vandren]

Alright, I'm still developing this idea and jotting down setting info, but . . .

Would there be any interest in a post-NEWT, Potter-verse group?

The idea is set at what is basically a Wizarding college located on an island off the western coast of Ireland (I'm using photos of Innissheer Island).  Graduates of Hogwarts, Durmstrang, and Beauxbatons, or other minor European schools would be acceptable.  There are no houses, since those are already set.  In addition to continued magical studies, the school (in my conception) is also very sexually open and experimental, interested in expanding students' horizons.

All characters would be Human (or at least part-Human, some part-Giants, part-Veela, etc. may be allowed).

Like I said, its still a bit rough, bu if there's interest I'll do more development.

[polaroids]

Er.
There's no such thing as Wizarding colleges.
Hogwarts (and other similar schools) basically prepare you for your jobs and further training continues on the job site.  For example, if you want to become an Auror you go to the Ministry and you're trained.  Same with Healers. 

But I'm just a stickler for keeping things pretty canon.
Good luck anyway~*~

[Vandren]

Er.
There's no such thing as Wizarding colleges.
Hogwarts (and other similar schools) basically prepare you for your jobs and further training continues on the job site.  For example, if you want to become an Auror you go to the Ministry and you're trained.  Same with Healers.

Yes, I understand this . . . having read the entire series at least seven times, taught Rowling several times, written a dissertation on Rowling, and published two academic papers on her work.

But, that's not the point.

There are four reasons for the set up below:

1) Because it popped into my head while I was re-reading Half-Blood Prince last week

2) Because it sounded fun.

3) Because of character ages.

and

4) Because it avoids canonical characters in every way possible, in accordance with JKR's publicly stated wishes re: "adult" situations and her characters.  Which I have no problem with respecting (even if Foucault is correct [I don't think he is] and "the author is dead").

[Rhapsody]

First off, grats on 6k posts.  :)

Second off, I might be interested.  I'm a huge Potter-phile.

Er.
There's no such thing as Wizarding colleges.

Doesn't mean the shiny bright New Ministry under Shacklebolt might not have instituted one, given the sorely pathetic training Ministry officials and journalists in particular seem to receive in the Potterverse. :)  Or that there wasn't someone who created a private college of their own, a la the Four Founders.  The magical world is pretty underdeveloped in a lot of areas in the series.

[Vandren]

Danke, for the interest.

As far as the School for Advanced W & W goes, I'm figuring private (technically Hogwarts is private too, at least in U.S. terms, public in British terms) and certainly not Ministry approved, given the uniform I have in mind and the school's, shall we say, loose morality.   Basically, it is a place where more advanced magic is taught, including non-Dark magic that the Ministry still wouldn't entirely approve of.  Some inspiration came from a few pics posted at Imagefap, including an "erecto gigantum" transfiguration/charm that I'll leave to your imaginations.  ;)  Given this, a certain amount of maturity and skill would be required, thus the NEWT requirement.

[Insight]

Well, reguardless of the merit of the idea, I'm still interested. I'd be happy to join!

[LordAnubis]

Admittedly I'm a usual safe bet on joining a potter game if it gets off the ground.

[Vandren]

It's a little messy due to how the wiki handles pics, but here's a brief setting outline:

Wiki Page

I'm happy with what's there, but am open to modification so long as there's a good, coherent reason and an alternative is suggested.  :)

[Vandren]

Alright, there've been three expressions of interest . . . before starting anything up, I'd like confirmation on those, since I've posted info.  If there's a fourth person out there who has viewed an been interested, I'd like to hear from you too before starting anything.

The former can, if necessary, include tweaks/suggestions.

[GothicFires]

i'd be interested in playing

[Vandren]

i'd be interested in playing

I'd be glad to have you.  :)

[Risa]

Hm...I bet I could whip up a character.

[DoctorWhy]

Though there are no wizarding colleges technically, there is pre-job training. And if you took a bunch of people training for their careers and put them together, what would you have? A college!
'S logical, right?

Anyway, I'll be in, if there's room. I don't often build characters around pre-existing universe though, so I'll have to take some time to create this one..

[Vandren]

I've got no problem with large amounts of players/characters.  In this style thing, the more the better.  :)

I'll set something up in the way of IC threads tomorrow (Friday) afternoon (EDT), if I get a chance.  The evening otherwise.

As far as location, NC-H or BON?  Or elsewhere?

[GothicFires]

If there is going to be the chance of NC then it should go there. NC could include bondage but not the other way around.

I personally don't like NC, but will do it if the character forcing themselves upon mine wants an in game enemy  >:)

[Vandren]

Hi all,

I've set up threads in BON-H.  After some thought, I think that should still allow non-violent coersion, potions slipped into drinks, and consenting characters play-acting NC (therefore, not really being NC) if desired.

OOC Thread
Character Profiles

[jilorbb]

I was interested until I saw the female uniforms. While I can understand the skirts and kilts and the idea of a more sexually-open school, I can't go with the idea that you are required to dress scantily. This is supposed to be a school, after all, not just a sexual playground, right?

And, if that's not the purpose of the school, you might want to reconsider it's name.

[GothicFires]

you could be one of the students who wore a robe over their outfit the entire time because you weren't comfortable with the uniform. I think that would be a great concept.

You can be dressed wrist to wrist and chin to ankle and still be sexy or you can be in a bikini and have people wonder what the fuss is all about. I honestly don't think she is overly sexy... make it a sports bra and wear granny panties... It's a fantasy. It can be what ever we want to make it and not be wrong.

going against dress code is also a great way to get punished if you are into that sort of thing.

[jilorbb]

That's why I think it should be the other way around. Obviously, it makes no sense whatsoever to have the majority of people running around baring-all and then those that wear the robes are the ones who get punished. At a legitimate school this would never happen.

why not take the school idea seriously and have actual uniforms? Then the ones who wear the bikinis would be the ones who stood out and got into trouble. This is the only way I see it making any bit of sense. Otherwise, a person who was shy and/or seriously focused on school would never go to that academy in the first place.

[GothicFires]

It makes sense just fine. because it is a fantasy. Not something that actually exists.

if your character is shy and thinks that wearing a bikini with a skirt is not enough clothing then she can wear the robe to cover it with out getting in trouble. I was speaking of wearing more cloths to get in trouble.

you can make a reason for someone who is seriously shy to have no choice but to go there, perhaps they needed education and it was the only school that they could afford to get into.

This isn't real life, but honestly in real life I can sit in a classroom surrounded by good looking men in kilts and still get studying done. A woman in a bikini can be less of a slut than one who wears layers of cloths. Being sexy shouldn't be a problem.

Edited to add:
I've rp'd with Vandren before in a group game and briefly in a 1 on 1. He is a great writer. I am not sure if he has an over all plot for this game or if the dynamics will be based solely on character personalities but he is very capable of writing good stories that are more than just an orgy.

Give it a try. If you hate it then your character can always be written out, but who knows you might just have fun.

[jilorbb]

I don't think I'd be able to have fun because turning a wizarding school into a brothel suspends belief for me. I'm too much of a HP fan to take this seriously, I'm afraid. But I was really hoping to get involved since the only other HP game I found was Polaroid's and I'm not sure I'm expert enough to actually be involved in that one.

[Vandren]

That's why I think it should be the other way around. Obviously, it makes no sense whatsoever to have the majority of people running around baring-all and then those that wear the robes are the ones who get punished. At a legitimate school this would never happen.

And at a real legitimate school, the principal wouldn't be allowed to throw out representatives of the federal or state government who were showing up with concerns about murders, assaults, and other goings on.  But, because it's fiction and fantasy, Rowling can let her school get away with it.  The "uniform" in question was put in place because the concept popped into my head a week or two ago and it seemed interesting.  I noted earlier that if anyone had problems with it, I'd listen.  No one among the first 100 views and several posts seemed to have any issues.

However, I find it interesting that it's the female uniform that's causing trouble for you, not the male uniform (which actually show a heck of a lot more).

Besides, when was it said that this place being proposed was legitimate?  In fact, it is stated that the place is non-Ministry approved, therefore making it implicitly non-legitimate.

why not take the school idea seriously and have actual uniforms?  Otherwise, a person who was shy and/or seriously focused on school would never go to that academy in the first place.

Perhaps.  Or perhaps they thought it was something else.  Or they didn't know Anglo-Saxon and therefore couldn't translate the school name.  :)  As Gothicfires noted (thanks for the compliment, btw, not that I deserve it), that can open up RP possibilities.  And who said the school idea wasn't being taken seriously?  Also, who said that students who wear the robe (even closed) necessarily get punished?  I don't recall typing that anywhere.  Now, some faculty might, but I certainly never wrote that this would be standard policy.

I don't think I'd be able to have fun because turning a wizarding school into a brothel suspends reality for me.

Where'd that impression come from?  Brothels sell sex to outsiders and have employees who get paid for sleeping with people.  Neither of which is intended to be going on here.  In fact, outsiders are, for all intents and purposes, never likely to appear (unless there's a Ministry raid or some such . . . but I wouldn't do that . . . by the way, there's this great bridge in London that I need to sell, only 200 euro ;) ).

I'm too much of a HP fan to take this seriously, I'm afraid.

Your call.

However, as noted previously in this thread, I'm a huge fan (and scholarly critic) of Rowling's world, so please don't imply otherwise.  That fandom is exactly why this isn't set at Hogwarts and doesn't involve canon figures.

[jilorbb]

I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to imply that you weren't a fan, though after re-reading what I wrote I can understand that you took it that way. I only meant that this school situation didn't fit my own take on the HP universe.

And brothel was certainly the wrong word to use, admittedly, it was just the first one to come to mind.

[Transgirlenstein]

I would be interested if you need another character

[Vandren]

I would be interested if you need another character

The more the merrier.  :)

[MadPanda]

Tempting.  Very tempting.
I could always advance Vincent or Kat a year or so...

[Vandren]

I only meant that this school situation didn't fit my own take on the HP universe.

It doesn't necessarily fit my own primary take on the Potter-verse either.  But, then, as a consequence of my profession and training, I'm open to lots of interpretations and such.  That's the nice thing about literature, there are lots of possibilities (in this case, sure, there's no textual evidence, but I'm not trying to make an argument regarding it, so evidence doesn't really need to be there in this case).

[kckolbe]

   Well, I really am enjoying your Imperial Academy, and would be up for this.  So all of the characters are graduates of one of the schools and are they all preparing for same or similar jobs, or is it just "graduate" school?  I'm in either way, just curious.

[GothicFires]

its like University after high school. you have to decide your own goals and what you want to do.

you can look at what we have done for characters so far here Characters

you don't have to know the harry potter history but you do need to know a little about the universe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogwarts#Grading_and_assessment is a start you can probably find links to the schools from there or just google Goblet of Fire... that is if you want to come from one of the other schools beside hogwarts.

Edited to include... you can even play a teacher if you want. But if you run more than one character, one must be a student. If I am wrong I am sure Vandren will correct me.

[Vandren]

Well, I really am enjoying your Imperial Academy, and would be up for this.  So all of the characters are graduates of one of the schools and are they all preparing for same or similar jobs, or is it just "graduate" school?  I'm in either way, just curious.

Basically, think of it as a sort of Hogwarts College (although such things don't necessarily exist in the canon world).  Actually, a college or university from a good century or so back would be a better analogy.  That'd be before practically everyone went to college and really only those who could a) afford to and b) were interested in knowledge for its own sake went to higher education.

As far as info goes, this is the best and most user friendly HP wiki I've found to date.

[Vandren]

I'd forgotten, there is possible canonical precedent for specialized post-Hogwarts education: Wizarding Academy of Dramatic Arts in Beedle.  However, I say possible because this could be an alternative school to Hogwarts' more generalized education.

[kckolbe]

   Lovely, I will start working up a char concept.

[Vandren]

More players and characters are always welcome.  :)  See the links below.

[DarkAngel]

I wouldn't mind jumping in this .. If you need another female let me know

[GothicFires]

We have a more the merrier policy. Create a character and send it to Vandren  :D

[Vandren]

What she said . . . all PR for the group will henceforth be handled by GF.   ;D

[GothicFires]

So if i save you time here, does that mean i can occupy your time else where?  O:)

[GothicFires]

We've got 9 characters and 7 players in the game.

While we are just now getting to the island where the school is located, this game is open any time you want to jump in so come have fun with us

WE'RE MAGICALLY DELICIOUS!

[Risa]

Sorry for the delay in my character's posting. My mind has been...elsewhere for the last two weeks.

[GothicFires]

Its all good love, we are easy going folk.

[Vandren]

No problem, Risa, although that's probably better for the OOC thread.  :)  Offline lives always come first and being "out of it" happens . . . a lot in some cases.

[Saku]

I wouldn't mind coming on board if you still have the 'more the merrier' policy going on *winks* xD I'll have to think about my character and will probably PM you when I get back on Wednesday ^^ if that's okay :)

[Vandren]

The "more the merrier" policy is always in effect.  I'm working things up as one part "sandbox" style and one part guided (varying ratios depending on offline stuff, desires, etc.)

[Tyolka]

Hey there - I'm new and looking for a place to jump in...and this looks like something I'd love to be a part of.  Is it too late to join? :D

Tyo  O:)

And modified to see the "more the merrier" policy...on my way over to find the school!

[GothicFires]

We'll be happy to have you. :)

[GrinningHound]

Can I be a Teacher's Assistant focusing on Field Training for Fighting Fire With Fire, an advanced Defense Against the Dark Arts?  :D

[GothicFires]

I've already set up a character to be the defense against the dark arts teacher. I don't see a problem with you role playing a student actively trying to become her assistant. it should be fun.

[Vandren]

Can I be a Teacher's Assistant focusing on Field Training for Fighting Fire With Fire, an advanced Defense Against the Dark Arts?  :D

You can try . . . a TA in that field is ultimately up to Vivienne (GF's teacher character).   >:)

[GrinningHound]

It's a University, there's room for more specialized courses, Defense Against the Dark Arts is quite broad.

My guy is probably working on his thesis or some other big project for his degree, and he's going to do that by developing this course. 

Fighting Fire with Fire, powerful and dangerous magic for use in the field against enemies of goodly wizards, be they monster or Dark Wizard (a militant specialty).

It's fine with me for him to be working under GF's character.  I want to lead students on lots of dangerous field trips.  :P  Or, if there are no other players who want their characters in my class, he can just do that in the background, and show up with all sorts of burn marks and bruises and trophies and stuff from his adventures.

[Saku]

Wow, things are heating up xD I'm gonna have to jump in soon! xD I should be able to get something in at some point either today or tomorrow! I'm currently catching up on posts ugh lol

[Vandren]

It's a University, there's room for more specialized courses, Defense Against the Dark Arts is quite broad.

Could be possible.

My guy is probably working on his thesis or some other big project for his degree, and he's going to do that by developing this course.

Well, like all Potter-verse schools, this one doesn't offer any degrees.  :)  Even if the other did/do, since it's not Ministry approved, Nacodsaed wouldn't. 

It's fine with me for him to be working under GF's character.  I want to lead students on lots of dangerous field trips.  :P

Field trips could be a bit of a problem . . . that whole hidden island, hidden school, concealed from Muggles and Ministry of Magic alike thing . . .

[GothicFires]

of course there is the issue of Vivianne's back ground as a 'body guard' and eventually living what you have your character wanting to teach. She also has a extreme sport personality, so the more danger her life has been in... the happier she is. I'm not stingy with the subject. perhaps we can work something out.

[Hayato]

might i ask if it's still open to join? i've always toyed with this idea of an American wizard coming across the pond (we can't assume only Europe has witches and wizards, can we?). Please let me know if I can join, thanks.

[GothicFires]

there are at least two american characters already.  :-) create your character and send it in to Van. we'd be happy to have you  :-)

[GrinningHound]

I'm thinking my character served actively in the military after graduating Hogwarts (fighting evil terrorist wizards, of course), so he has a fair amount of experience, not to mention he's just naturally 'good' at it and has worked long and hard honing those skills.  This would make him about 26 right now.

As for field trips, can't wizards Teleport or use other means of magical travel?

[Vandren]

might i ask if it's still open to join? i've always toyed with this idea of an American wizard coming across the pond (we can't assume only Europe has witches and wizards, can we?). Please let me know if I can join, thanks.

That's possible, although I'd like to minimize the number of non-European students.  We do know that there are canonically wizards around the world (see Goblet), but even so, the schools tend to be rather secretive.

I'm thinking my character served actively in the military after graduating Hogwarts (fighting evil terrorist wizards, of course), so he has a fair amount of experience, not to mention he's just naturally 'good' at it and has worked long and hard honing those skills.  This would make him about 26 right now.

See PM.  A couple additional things, since this has more info: 1) What military?  There are no militaries in the wizarding world.  2) At 26, he couldn't be a student.  He'd have to be a full blown instructor/teacher.

A note on the canonical stuff . . . GF's ex-bodyguard, I can see from extrapolation even if there are none shown in the series because 1) the Ministry provides guards to top members of the government and 2) I could easily see say a member of the Weird Sisters or Gwenog Jones, for example, hiring some protection from time to time.  Organized military forces on the other hand are completely out of whack with the setting, the closest we get are an hoc groups put together on the spur of the moment for specific threats (ex. Order of the Phoenix, Dumbledore's Army) that are unofficial and disband after the threat's gone.

As for field trips, can't wizards Teleport or use other means of magical travel?

Yes, apparition/disapparition is around, as are broomsticks.  However, as noted, apparition doesn't work on or to the island (as per Hogwarts and other major sites like Gringotts/Diagon Alley).  The school's not on the Floo Network, because the Ministry monitors it (Phoenix, Half-Blood, Hallows).  Portkeys aren't an option because the Ministry traces and monitors them (see Goblet).  And even brooms can be followed.

[GothicFires]

kind if a explanation of 'body guard', while that could include protection of certain officials/famous wizards it can also include accompanying wizards on expeditions that might require aggressive defensive and offensive spells that they might not be good at. I guess you can think of her as an auroror (sp) without her actively pursuing that field. She doesn't actively chase down people who breaks magical law unless requested but if a wizard was to go rouge and threaten another, she could set up the threatened wizard's defense.

i've only read the books once. while i love the concept I find for the most part they are a boring read so i am at times going to screw up on the terminology or confuse/mix actual magical mythology (that i have studied) with potterverse magical mythology. I ask a bit of forgiveness during those times.

[Vandren]

No worries there.

[Saku]

I might wait a bit on this game I'll join later on I think but I need to think about what sort of character to come up with lol

[GothicFires]

bump time. still going. still accepting new players

[Vandren]

Thanks, I was going to do that this weekend.

We can especially use teachers and upperclass(wo-)men.

[GothicFires]

Thanks, I was going to do that this weekend.

We can especially use teachers and upperclass(wo-)men.

this is still true. We are on the first morning having breakfast and getting ready for the first class. Anyone can jump in at anytime just send Vandren a character sheet and he'll get back to you.

we can all be magically delicious (in more ways than one)

[GothicFires]

we're about to start the first class period. Everyone still welcome

[Korbl]

I'd love to join. I've got an idea for a student, and possibly a teacher. I'll send them off for approval when I'm not about to head off to actual classes...

[Vandren]

Sounds good, we'd love to have some new blood injected into the mix.  :)

[GothicFires]

we're over half way to having our own board. We are having fun and still accepting players. Students and teachers welcome.

[Vandren]

We've had some people leave, so there are numerous positions for teacher and student characters.  Everything except Ancient Runes is open for teachers, and we're heavy on the lower end of students (1st year).