Shadowrun 5e: Chinese Front

[Conundrum]

I mentioned previously about starting a Shadowrun 5e campaign on a bit of a spur of the moment so unlike my usual games this is not yet particularly planned out and am therefore looking to start by discussing it.

My current though are putting the game in the Republic of China, a rump state, primarily in Tianjin.  Tianjin is the capitol and a coastal city of the Republic of China and since it is being backed and held up by the megacorps everyone has a major presence there.  To the north is the awakened and heavily anti-corp Manchuria, to the south are the Coastal Provinces which may as well be one big sweatshop for the megacorps, if you travel overland a bit you get to places like the die hard communist Henan, and Shaanxi which is tough to describe so to simply is pretty much the Qing dynasty revived with an Empress who claims to trace her lineage back that far.

China in Shadowrun is a giant clusterfucking mess,

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This makes it perfect for shadowrunning.  Runners can stick to a lot of the classic styles inside of the big cities Tianjin, swing down to Hong Kong, mix the usual with something a bit different and trawl up and down the Coastal Provinces dealing with with pirates and privateers or head up to Shenyang to see an anti-corp capitol, or the players can do something way off the map from the usual Seattle fair and head around Manchurian and Mongolian outbacks dealing with death worms, armies of rogue spirits, or simple bandits... armed with T-55s.

Being able to mix and match all this should be interesting I think.  I would like to hear some thoughts though.

[Laughing Ocelots]

I’m definitely interested! Just because it varies so heavily from GM to GM, how would you be representing the Matrix, and how heavily a role would it be playing in your game?

China is an awesome (OOC, less so IC) place in the sixth world, so a game set there would be pretty unique!

[Conundrum]

I’m definitely interested! Just because it varies so heavily from GM to GM, how would you be representing the Matrix, and how heavily a role would it be playing in your game?

China is an awesome (OOC, less so IC) place in the sixth world, so a game set there would be pretty unique!

The matrix will vary a bit depending on where you are.  In the Coastal provinces it will be more compartmentalized for example and pretty sparse if you get out to places like Mongolia.  In major cities with a lot of international and inter-corporate presence like Tianjin I usually run it as a sort of parallel world, much like the astral.  Everyone and everything with a presence in the matrix has a representation on the matrix, big or small.  If you go for a simple AR overlay you will be walking in two worlds and interact equally with both, if you go full VR then you surrender fully to the other world and obey it's laws.

How big of an impact it has will depend on the players.  I try to work campaigns around the runners.  I don't send murder hobos to negotiate delicate deals and I don't send a group of deckers to deal with a spirit.  Johnsons hire people skilled in their particular field for particular jobs.

[Captain Whitebread]

Given the setting, this gives me the chance to do something I've always wanted to try.  Years ago,I came across (second edition) rules for Chinese Hermetic magic.  It is a unique tradition featuring five elements rather than four and shares as much with shamanic tradition as it does with Hermetic.  I will try and track down the article, if you are willing to let me try it....

Shadis issue #20 is the magazine it was in....

[Muse]

  Good morning awesome people.  I doubt i have much priority here since im allready in one of conundrum's shadowrun games, but I'd love to offer a razor girl here if you have space. 

[Conundrum]

Given the setting, this gives me the chance to do something I've always wanted to try.  Years ago,I came across (second edition) rules for Chinese Hermetic magic.  It is a unique tradition featuring five elements rather than four and shares as much with shamanic tradition as it does with Hermetic.  I will try and track down the article, if you are willing to let me try it....

Shadis issue #20 is the magazine it was in....

I am fine allowing homebrew traditions.  Just find it or write it up and I will let you know if I see any issues.

[Captain Whitebread]

I will have to scan it and send it to you.  I've found Shadis #19.5 and #22 online but not #20....

[Keelan]

What do you think char-gen would look like for this? I do enjoy SR, and definitely SR5, but I haven't done a non-solo game in a long while, and my characters usually resembled DM-PCs or Prime Runner threats, so I might be interested, but I also know it might take me a little to refamiliarize myself with normal chargen ^_^

That said, I did come up with a super-high-power chargen/game idea that has a (somewhat) setting-related reason for the madness...

[Conundrum]

What do you think char-gen would look like for this? I do enjoy SR, and definitely SR5, but I haven't done a non-solo game in a long while, and my characters usually resembled DM-PCs or Prime Runner threats, so I might be interested, but I also know it might take me a little to refamiliarize myself with normal chargen ^_^

That said, I did come up with a super-high-power chargen/game idea that has a (somewhat) setting-related reason for the madness...

That is something I hoped to discuss in this thread.  Prime runners are an option if players are experienced and looking for that.

[Captain Whitebread]

I've been playing Shadowrun since 1st edition, back when every weapon had a different staging number and Physads bought automatic successes rather than extra skill dice.

Ah, the good old days.

[Laughing Ocelots]

I am most faimilar with 5e, and Prime Runner, Sum to 12 or any other nonstandard character creation is fine with me, and can allow for unique creations which is always interesting. Your point about being able to have a lot of different types of environments and runs would be pretty awesome to play with, although being 'higher spec'd' shadowrunners may help in everyone being able to more fully partake in all of those different things.

As a PC I'd be most interested in a technomancer or Awakened decker? Weird but fun builds I guess.

For any adult content, I assume it would be as the game came to it, instead of having it central to the game?

[Conundrum]

I am most faimilar with 5e, and Prime Runner, Sum to 12 or any other nonstandard character creation is fine with me, and can allow for unique creations which is always interesting. Your point about being able to have a lot of different types of environments and runs would be pretty awesome to play with, although being 'higher spec'd' shadowrunners may help in everyone being able to more fully partake in all of those different things.

As a PC I'd be most interested in a technomancer or Awakened decker? Weird but fun builds I guess.

For any adult content, I assume it would be as the game came to it, instead of having it central to the game?

Higher spec characters may make it easier but the barrier to get around is also a lot lower in this area.

Adult content can be a focus if that is what players are looking for.  I am trying to get people's thoughts on this.

[TheLaughingOne]

Heyya! I would be down for this! Loved shadowrun hong kong, andbeen into the system for a long while!

OPen on story focus, or smutty focus! All fun and good:3

[Captain Whitebread]

My preference is for a focus on game, with smut being possible should we choose to indulge.

[Keelan]

My characters are quite slutty, so they will get up to some smuttiness and will likely be very flirty, though I would say that missions should be like any other, with the potential option for it to turn smutty (say if I decide to seduce a guard, or fuck my way out of getting arrested/reported, for instance).

Also someone mentioned Sum to 12 or etc; I'm totally down for that, as I like making 'heroic' badass characters, which I guess is the 'fantasy' part that I like best about a cyberpunk-fantasy like Shadowrun ^_^

[RSGAlex]

Oh, hey. Is there too many people showing interest yet?

[Conundrum]

Oh, hey. Is there too many people showing interest yet?

You are the sixth person to express interest I believe but one person in front of you is another Shadowrun game of mine so would give preference to people who so not have a game yet.

[RSGAlex]

Then depending on the group I may do a decker, a strange techo build I played around with, or mayrix support.

[MrBubbles]

Great galloping Ghost! A 5e Shadowrun campaign? On Elliquiy? With Prime Runner and Sum-to-12? Gosh, and it's in a novel part of the world, to boot! I've just got to make like Patrick Swayze and slip my fingers onto the wet clay of this CharGen and make a love-child with Chummer.

My preference is for a focus on game, with smut being possible should we choose to indulge.

Hear hear, Shadowrun's a system that never shied away from the more salacious subjects in the setting. Joygirls? Check. Orxsploitation? Check. Bunraku Parlors? Oh omae, you better believe that's a check. The system might not be a casual sex world where blowjobs are just a messier way to say "hello," but sex is more than just "possible." It's advertised, it's available - hell, it's cheap! Playing a flirty little slut that gets out of trouble with a tug or a titjob is as viable as your average jandering vatjob or Awakened Wizard (in fact, it's one of the most powerful builds in the system, the venerable Pornomancer.)

[TheLaughingOne]

Great galloping Ghost! A 5e Shadowrun campaign? On Elliquiy? With Prime Runner and Sum-to-12? Gosh, and it's in a novel part of the world, to boot! I've just got to make like Patrick Swayze and slip my fingers onto the wet clay of this CharGen and make a love-child with Chummer.
Hear hear, Shadowrun's a system that never shied away from the more salacious subjects in the setting. Joygirls? Check. Orxsploitation? Check. Bunraku Parlors? Oh omae, you better believe that's a check. The system might not be a casual sex world where blowjobs are just a messier way to say "hello," but sex is more than just "possible." It's advertised, it's available - hell, it's cheap! Playing a flirty little slut that gets out of trouble with a tug or a titjob is as viable as your average jandering vatjob or Awakened Wizard (in fact, it's one of the most powerful builds in the system, the venerable Pornomancer.)

Lets not forget the prospects of cybernetic/bioware genitals with all those added bonuses, Cyber dong with high frequency vibration module, super high quality synth flesh covering, and adjustable level of nerve reception, to help keep the early incidents from happening, VatVag with extra muscles and texturing to go that extra distance..

Maybe im putting a little to much thought into this... Or not enough.. ;3

[Captain Whitebread]

Yeah but it was Cyberpunk that came out with the Mr Stud/Midnight Lady implants in their first edition.

[TheLaughingOne]

... Quession. What is the sum to 12 rule thing..? only ever done baseline so not exactly sure whats up..

[Conundrum]

... Quession. What is the sum to 12 rule thing..? only ever done baseline so not exactly sure whats up..

Sum to 12 is an alternative rule set for more powerful characters.  You assign a "priority" to each E is 0 points, D is 1, C is 2, B is 3, A is 4.  These points must add up to equal or "sum" 12.  So you could have race E and Resources E but have Magic A, Attributes a, and Skills A.  Usually Sum to 10 is used but Sum to 12 is used for more powerful characters or allow more viable use of some metatypes.

[TheLaughingOne]

oohh!! Thanks for the explain!!!

[Keelan]

Thought of something important: How 'combat monster-y do you want us to be? Initiative-Boosters are expensive and invasive, but if you're not going to do multiple-IPs (Some PbP games don't do them out of simplicity's sake; combat is a drag normally in PbP without the confusion), it can change the ideas/builds...

[Muse]

:)   Sum to 12 prime runner?  *Grins*  I could play Guildenstern! 

Cause who doesn't want to run the shadows with a nine foot tall Shakespearean actor skilled in magic and the supernatural martial arts? 

Seriously, though, if there is a space for me, I'll build whatever the party is missing.  People not in another game already get the first priority. 

[Captain Whitebread]

Dibs on the human Chinese Hermetic Mage (not to be confused with a normal Hermetic Mage)

Trying to find an electronic version of the article.

[Keelan]

I have an urge to play someone focused on Athletics (Namely Gymnastics) and Sneaking...

[TheLaughingOne]

Well, think ill go with muscular orky gun-bun!

[TFcommando]

Looks like it's full up, but just in case, I could do a martial arts-themed adept, probably a sword user, a current or former river bandit... smuggler template or street samurai could fit there, or, going back to 1e, a Former Company (Wo)man, a more low-key, corporate-themed street sam, pistols and unarmed combat instead of assault rifles and katana.  Human all around.

EDIT:  There's a concept that I could only play here on E, a tantric sex mage.  Essentially a hermetic tradition with Charisma instead of Logic as the drain stat, the Seducer mentor spirit, social-themed magic and the Orgasm spell as favorites. 

[Phaia]

Oh darn! I love shadowrun...[just not all the die rolling pools] and this is a very different area and theme.

I have a rocker chic physical adept idea!

Phaia

[Captain Whitebread]

Might take me a bit to get up to speed on the system but it can’t be THAT different.

[Captain Whitebread]

Took me a while, only to find out the Chinese Hermetic system already exist in 5th under the name Wuxing.

5 Elements.  It was originally the only one that had an element attached to healing spells.

Bái Hǔ aka White Tiger (Real Name: Kai Ling)
Human follower of Wuxing.

[Conundrum]

So it seems like people are generally aiming for the higher end here.  Sum to 12 I will generally only do for High Life games or if I need to do so to help certain metatypes.  It also sounds like Tianjin will be a good starting spot.

lusciousonly, Captain Whitebread, Keelan, TheLaughingOne, and RSGAlex were the first five people in the thread besides Muse.  Muse, since you are already in a campaign I want to make sure other people have a chance as well.

MrBubbles, TFCommando, and Phaia you three will be on the short list for if anyone drops out.


Given the amount of interest Shadowrun seem to garner after this semester's finals it seems I could easily fill up another campaign, maybe somewhere like the Ivory Coast, Texas, or Oceania.

[Captain Whitebread]

I just want to thank you for setting thinks outside the standard Seattle playpen

[Conundrum]

I just want to thank you for setting thinks outside the standard Seattle playpen

You are welcome, I very rarely tread within Seattle.  It is up there is the top three most boring locations to set a Shadowrun campaign for me.  It is just too established and restrictive.

[TFcommando]

So it seems like people are generally aiming for the higher end here.  Sum to 12 I will generally only do for High Life games or if I need to do so to help certain metatypes.  It also sounds like Tianjin will be a good starting spot.

lusciousonly, Captain Whitebread, Keelan, TheLaughingOne, and RSGAlex were the first five people in the thread besides Muse.  Muse, since you are already in a campaign I want to make sure other people have a chance as well.

MrBubbles, TFCommando, and Phaia you three will be on the short list for if anyone drops out.


Given the amount of interest Shadowrun seem to garner after this semester's finals it seems I could easily fill up another campaign, maybe somewhere like the Ivory Coast, Texas, or Oceania.

Thanks for running, and having me on standby.  I'll work up a couple of characters. :)

I have to say that Texas could be fun, allowing for wide-open spaces for a Rigger to drive fast in. 

[Laughing Ocelots]

While there are some nitty gritty details questions I have, most of them can wait. Starting in Tianjin sounds pretty awesome though - not only is it a cool 'hub city', its massive arcologies are great settings for adventure themselves.

Before getting too caught up in character creation, the details thereof should likely be ironed out? I am fine with the higher powered, more active High Life style of games that might use Sum to 12 or Prime Runner creation. Those seem to lend themselves to the setting of mainland China in particular, since there's a lot of smaller scale geopolitical stuff the PCs could dabble in.

Captain Whitebread was looking at a Wuxing mage potentially, and RSGAlex was looking at something matrix. If it'd be allowed, I'd be interested in running a Technomancer that could work in support of another matrix-based character? That may result in a team that's better at the Matrix side of things than Conundrum is looking for though, so GM veto is of course allowed.

[Conundrum]

I am fine with lopsided groups, I will build the campaign around the players.

[MrBubbles]

MrBubbles, TFCommando, and Phaia you three will be on the short list for if anyone drops out.

Groovular, thanks for having me on call!

I could easily fill up another campaign, maybe somewhere like the Ivory Coast, Texas, or Oceania.

Ivory Coast and Texas might be fun, the former because it's a Runner's paradise with all sorts of dubious dealings and nefarious negotiations, while Texas... I mean, c'mon, it's Texas. Everything's bigger there - the Runs, the guns, the funds! It's a flashpoint with the NAN, Aztlan and the CAS with Denver just a hop and skip away too, so there's oodles of possibilities for why your (likely outrageously proportioned) Runner's decided to set up shop in the Lone Star State.

Other juicy locations include Madagascar and Constantinople - Madagascar's something of a pirate's haven in the Sixth World (which would present players with something they aren't used to in their Seattles and Hong Kongs; aquatic Runs) and Constantinople's sitting smack-dab in the middle of a whole lotta drek; it's the City of the World's Desire, and you'll be able to find anything (and anyone) there!

[Keelan]

For reference: I've been considering a Gymnastics/Sneaking oriented character, if I haven't mentioned already.  My existing character - Lapine Leblanc - I usually portray as being fluent in Mandarin, which could be useful...

Also, how do you feel about custom Qualities? The aforementioned character of mine is Mute, and I have a fun negative Quality for people who like exhibitionism/surprise sex/'wardrobe malfunctions'/ENF/etc :3

[Conundrum]

Groovular, thanks for having me on call!
Ivory Coast and Texas might be fun, the former because it's a Runner's paradise with all sorts of dubious dealings and nefarious negotiations, while Texas... I mean, c'mon, it's Texas. Everything's bigger there - the Runs, the guns, the funds! It's a flashpoint with the NAN, Aztlan and the CAS with Denver just a hop and skip away too, so there's oodles of possibilities for why your (likely outrageously proportioned) Runner's decided to set up shop in the Lone Star State.

Other juicy locations include Madagascar and Constantinople - Madagascar's something of a pirate's haven in the Sixth World (which would present players with something they aren't used to in their Seattles and Hong Kongs; aquatic Runs) and Constantinople's sitting smack-dab in the middle of a whole lotta drek; it's the City of the World's Desire, and you'll be able to find anything (and anyone) there!

I often set campaigns in places where water can play a big impact, like my current game in the Carib League.  I feel it is a fun and underused aspect.  I have never done a Constantinople game though, Europe game yes, but I think the closest I have had runners go in down to Egypt, through thee Balkans, and some Ukraine/Russia action.  I would need to read up on it.

For reference: I've been considering a Gymnastics/Sneaking oriented character, if I haven't mentioned already.  My existing character - Lapine Leblanc - I usually portray as being fluent in Mandarin, which could be useful...

Also, how do you feel about custom Qualities? The aforementioned character of mine is Mute, and I have a fun negative Quality for people who like exhibitionism/surprise sex/'wardrobe malfunctions'/ENF/etc :3

I am willing to allow homebrew.

[Ciosa]

I generally don't like starting games when other people are advertising for something in the same genre, but your general level of response kinda makes me want to run a shadowrun game too.  Any objection, MrBubbles?  If so, I'm happy to wait a month until your game is up and running.

[Keelan]

Homebrew suggestions!!!

Muteness
Karma: 2 or 5
While it's entirely possible in the 6th world to go entire days without actually talking to someone with your own voice, it's still rare to be incapable of speaking altogether. Whether by injury, birth defect, or psychological trauma, this runner finds themselves incapable of utilizing spoken language. At the 2 Karma level, the runner still has functional vocal chords, but is incapable of utilizing spoken language, limiting their utterances to grunts, growls, screams, and other animalistic sounds. At the 5 Karma level, the runner is unable to do even that as their vocal chords are torn, missing, or paralyzed; they are as silent as a ghost, even when tortured.

Ecchi no Kaze
Karma: 9
KYAAA!!! HENTAI!!! Anime girls have it rough; wind flipping up their skirts, attacks that tear through their clothing around their erotic parts, and having to engage in the most lewd activities in order to go about their mundane, daily lives. Unfortunately for you, chummer, this isn't an anime, but the same rules seem to apply. Whenever the GM sees fit, she can roll a number of dice equal to the Edge of the runner in question, and whenever a 1 is rolled, the runner ends up with something 'perverted' happening to them (such as getting groped on a subway train, or perhaps a button on their blouse pops open right in front of an onlooking crowd). The GM may choose to rule that the more 1s on the test, the more perverted the events are that happen to them. Additionally, when the runner uses their Edge, they roll a 1d6. Whenever a 1 is rolled, the outcome of the test is not altered, but the outcome involves something lewd happening to the runner (they managed to leap over that gap, but in the process it seems they've torn open their pants, exposing their cute new underwear to the world!). The GM should make sure to speak to the character's player about what their limits are for the purposes of this definitively mature quality.

[Conundrum]

I generally don't like starting games when other people are advertising for something in the same genre, but your general level of response kinda makes me want to run a shadowrun game too.  Any objection, MrBubbles?  If so, I'm happy to wait a month until your game is up and running.

Did you mean to ask me?  I do not think I saw MrBubbles starting a game.

Homebrew suggestions!!!

Muteness
Karma: 2 or 5
While it's entirely possible in the 6th world to go entire days without actually talking to someone with your own voice, it's still rare to be incapable of speaking altogether. Whether by injury, birth defect, or psychological trauma, this runner finds themselves incapable of utilizing spoken language. At the 2 Karma level, the runner still has functional vocal chords, but is incapable of utilizing spoken language, limiting their utterances to grunts, growls, screams, and other animalistic sounds. At the 5 Karma level, the runner is unable to do even that as their vocal chords are torn, missing, or paralyzed; they are as silent as a ghost, even when tortured.

Ecchi no Kaze
Karma: 9
KYAAA!!! HENTAI!!! Anime girls have it rough; wind flipping up their skirts, attacks that tear through their clothing around their erotic parts, and having to engage in the most lewd activities in order to go about their mundane, daily lives. Unfortunately for you, chummer, this isn't an anime, but the same rules seem to apply. Whenever the GM sees fit, she can roll a number of dice equal to the Edge of the runner in question, and whenever a 1 is rolled, the runner ends up with something 'perverted' happening to them (such as getting groped on a subway train, or perhaps a button on their blouse pops open right in front of an onlooking crowd). The GM may choose to rule that the more 1s on the test, the more perverted the events are that happen to them. Additionally, when the runner uses their Edge, they roll a 1d6. Whenever a 1 is rolled, the outcome of the test is not altered, but the outcome involves something lewd happening to the runner (they managed to leap over that gap, but in the process it seems they've torn open their pants, exposing their cute new underwear to the world!). The GM should make sure to speak to the character's player about what their limits are for the purposes of this definitively mature quality.

Muteness is good, Ecchi no Kaze I feel needs a bit more practical downside.  I see it is playing off bad luck a bit but also gives less karma.  I would think that when you use edge I roll a 1d6 and if you succeed something lewd happens that detracts from the success partially.

[Ciosa]

Did you mean to ask me?  I do not think I saw MrBubbles starting a game.

Yes, sorry, I was reading off quotes.  Sorry, Conundrum, that question was directed at you.

[Conundrum]

Yes, sorry, I was reading off quotes.  Sorry, Conundrum, that question was directed at you.

No problem and I have 0 problems with you starting your own Shadowrun campaign.  This is my second campaign I am starting and the wait list is still 3 plus Muse who is in my current game, and I would not mind playing in one either.  Even if not everyone is interested in the style you propose I doubt you will have much problem finding enough players to fill a game.

[Ciosa]

No problem and I have 0 problems with you starting your own Shadowrun campaign.  This is my second campaign I am starting and the wait list is still 3 plus Muse who is in my current game, and I would not mind playing in one either.  Even if not everyone is interested in the style you propose I doubt you will have much problem finding enough players to fill a game.

Awesome, and thank you for the quick reply.  I'll cobble something together over the next few days.

[Keelan]

Did you mean to ask me?  I do not think I saw MrBubbles starting a game.

Muteness is good, Ecchi no Kaze I feel needs a bit more practical downside.  I see it is playing off bad luck a bit but also gives less karma.  I would think that when you use edge I roll a 1d6 and if you succeed something lewd happens that detracts from the success partially.

Yeah, I definitely considered Bad Luck as the model, with less OOC deterrents and more IC deterrents (or motivators, if you play perverts like I do XD) to pushing one's luck. Clearly from it you can tell I have seen a lot of ecchi anime lol...

And... it does have that?

Ecchi no Kaze
Karma: 9
KYAAA!!! HENTAI!!! Anime girls have it rough; wind flipping up their skirts, attacks that tear through their clothing around their erotic parts, and having to engage in the most lewd activities in order to go about their mundane, daily lives. Unfortunately for you, chummer, this isn't an anime, but the same rules seem to apply. Whenever the GM sees fit, she can roll a number of dice equal to the Edge of the runner in question, and whenever a 1 is rolled, the runner ends up with something 'perverted' happening to them (such as getting groped on a subway train, or perhaps a button on their blouse pops open right in front of an onlooking crowd). The GM may choose to rule that the more 1s on the test, the more perverted the events are that happen to them. Additionally, when the runner uses their Edge, they roll a 1d6. Whenever a 1 is rolled, the outcome of the test is not altered, but the outcome involves something lewd happening to the runner (they managed to leap over that gap, but in the process it seems they've torn open their pants, exposing their cute new underwear to the world!). The GM should make sure to speak to the character's player about what their limits are for the purposes of this definitively mature quality.

I realize the wording needs work, so to clarify: the GM is the one who rolls the 1d6, and the intention was that it did not convert a success into a failure, or a dice-add to a dice-subtraction, or etc, and that everything mechanically still played out normally. HOWEVER on a 1, it's certainly not a clean success, even if you had an overwhelming success. It gets difficult to do with combat - what kind of sexy mishaps happen when you're firing a Glock 51 full-auto to mow down a couple of guys? - but with many other tasks success comes at the cost of some sort of sexy mishap 1/6th of the time. This is on top of being cursed with sexy mishaps as a result of your good luck...

What would you suggest to modify this if it's still not enough tho?

[Captain Whitebread]

what kind of sexy mishaps happen when you're firing a Glock 51 full-auto to mow down a couple of guys? -

Automatic weapon fire has been known to vibrate boobs out of their support system.

[Keelan]

Automatic weapon fire has been known to vibrate boobs out of their support system.

You make a fatal assumption!

...that they're wearing a 'support system' at all! >:3

[Captain Whitebread]

How is that a fatal assumption?  Unless it truly is killer cleavage....

[Keelan]

Truth be told, the word-choice was better when I was drunk (which is when I responded XD)

[Conundrum]

Yeah, I definitely considered Bad Luck as the model, with less OOC deterrents and more IC deterrents (or motivators, if you play perverts like I do XD) to pushing one's luck. Clearly from it you can tell I have seen a lot of ecchi anime lol...

And... it does have that?

I realize the wording needs work, so to clarify: the GM is the one who rolls the 1d6, and the intention was that it did not convert a success into a failure, or a dice-add to a dice-subtraction, or etc, and that everything mechanically still played out normally. HOWEVER on a 1, it's certainly not a clean success, even if you had an overwhelming success. It gets difficult to do with combat - what kind of sexy mishaps happen when you're firing a Glock 51 full-auto to mow down a couple of guys? - but with many other tasks success comes at the cost of some sort of sexy mishap 1/6th of the time. This is on top of being cursed with sexy mishaps as a result of your good luck...

What would you suggest to modify this if it's still not enough tho?

When I say something bad I mean something noticeably bad, like drawing attention to yourself or something.  Some solid narrative or mechanical penalty but obviously not to the degree of Bad Luck.  Having something lewd happen may not necessarily be narratively bad, like doing a stealth thing and nobody notices your panty flash so you just feel embarrassed I am not sure is 9 karma worthy.  Trying to schmooze your way into a club and succeeding only for a teammate to tell you that the zipper on your dress came up and people in line behind you have may pictures of your panties a bit more, since that is a potential data trail for your enemies to pick up on.

[Captain Whitebread]

Truth be told, the word-choice was better when I was drunk (which is when I responded XD)

Isn't that always the case?

[RSGAlex]

As the other person involved in that quality,  I guess I should put in my two centavos  on how I did/planned to do its happening. My fallback when it happened too late in a scene, or my usual others wouldn't apply, was that either the character was treated as having Distinctive Style for a few days at the place or a memory roll was allowed even if the earlier events said a roll probably would not be happening.

If the timing was better, I'd levy a success penalty (literally one success in most cases) or treat some armor benefit as down.

That was not entirely what I came here to talk about, nor most of it even. I was going to ask two things related to Blank Slate, because I may just show two different versions of Ice.  First, how are you interpreting near-fuge state. I just want a little heads up on what happens in a worst case scenario.  Second, what upcharge, if any is allowed, to do some mods to stuff. The main one I'm looking at is the non-oneshot mod for P-fixes in the core, but also some tricks from Data Trails.

[Conundrum]

As the other person involved in that quality,  I guess I should put in my two centavos  on how I did/planned to do its happening. My fallback when it happened too late in a scene, or my usual others wouldn't apply, was that either the character was treated as having Distinctive Style for a few days at the place or a memory roll was allowed even if the earlier events said a roll probably would not be happening.

If the timing was better, I'd levy a success penalty (literally one success in most cases) or treat some armor benefit as down.

That was not entirely what I came here to talk about, nor most of it even. I was going to ask two things related to Blank Slate, because I may just show two different versions of Ice.  First, how are you interpreting near-fuge state. I just want a little heads up on what happens in a worst case scenario.  Second, what upcharge, if any is allowed, to do some mods to stuff. The main one I'm looking at is the non-oneshot mod for P-fixes in the core, but also some tricks from Data Trails.

Fugue state is tough to describe but basically you are alive, can comprehend the world around you, but little if anything is being recorded or processed.  If someone starts telling you to do things and you register it you start doing those things.  For a permanent P-fix chip can be fixed RAW with a test so the cost will depend on who is doing it.  Hardware + Logic (10, 1 hour) so starting with one will depend on contacts and background.

[Phaia]

ummm is the setting a 'Mirror Shades' or 'Pink Mohawk'.

I was wondering since I had a screwy idea for a concept!

Phaia

[TheLaughingOne]

Right! got my character drawned up... Someone i send to or post directly here..?

[Conundrum]

ummm is the setting a 'Mirror Shades' or 'Pink Mohawk'.

I was wondering since I had a screwy idea for a concept!

Phaia

Depends on how you approach problems.  The way I do things allows for both to a reasonable degree I like to think.  There are cameras everywhere but rarely will people of competing groups willingly turn over their video footage without good cause.

Right! got my character drawned up... Someone i send to or post directly here..?

You can post it here for me or others to see and in a few days the OOC will be put up for players to put their sheets.

[TheLaughingOne]

Righto!!

https://imgur.com/a/n3wwwy4

[RSGAlex]

I have both decking and 'mancing versions here. Input is nice-ish.

Decking

== Personal Data ==
Street Name: Ice-D
Name: I forget
Movement: 6/12 (2m/hit)
Swim: 2.5 (1m/hit)
Karma: 0
Street Cred: 0
Notoriety: 0
Public Awareness: 0
Human F Age ??
Height 5'8" Weight heavy-cybered
Composure: 9
Judge Intentions: 9
Lift/Carry: 6 (45 kg/30 kg)
Memory: 12
Nuyen: 485¥
== Priorities ==
Metatype: D,1
Attributes: A,4
Special: E,0
Skills: B,3
Resources: A,4
== Attributes ==
BOD: 3
AGI: 3 (4)
REA: 4 (5)
STR: 2 (3)
CHA: 4
INT: 5
LOG: 6 (7)
WIL: 5
EDG: 5
== Derived Attributes ==
Essence: 0.02
Initiative: 10 +2d6
Rigger Initiative: 10 +2d6
Astral Initiative:
Matrix AR: 10 +2d6
Matrix Cold: 10 +3d6
Matrix Hot: 10 +4d6
Physical Damage Track: 12
Stun Damage Track: 11
== Limits ==
Physical: 5
Mental: 8
Audio Enhancement [+2] (Only for Perception (Hearing))
Audio Enhancement [+2] (Only for Perception (Hearing))
Audio Enhancement [+3] (Only for Perception (Hearing))
Medkit [+3] (Only for First Aid and Medicine)
Social: 5
Astral: 8
== Active Skills ==
Automatics (Cyber-Implant) Base: 5 Pool: 9 (11)
Computer Base: 6 Pool: 13
Con Base: 0 Pool: 5
Cybercombat Base: 4 Pool: 11
Disguise Base: 3 Pool: 8
Electronic Warfare Base: 4 Pool: 11
Etiquette Base: 1 Pool: 5
Gymnastics Base: 1 Pool: 5
Hacking (Devices) Base: 6 Pool: 13 (15)
Hardware Base: 2 Pool: 9
Leadership Base: 1 Pool: 5
Negotiation Base: 1 Pool: 5
Palming Base: 3 Pool: 7
Perception Base: 1 Pool: 7
Running Base: 1 Pool: 4
Sneaking Base: 3 Pool: 7
Software Base: 6 Pool: 13
Swimming Base: 1 Pool: 4
== Knowledge Skills ==
Bulgarian Base: 3 Pool: 8
English Native
Mandarin Base: 5 Pool: 10
BTLs (Persona-Fixes) Base: 3 Pool: 8 (10)
My Past? Base: 4 Pool: 9
Triads Base: 3 Pool: 8
Undead Base: 3 Pool: 10
== Contacts ==
Biggs & Edwin; Club "The Gates"; Fence (5, 2)
FIxit; Botanical Gardens; Fixer (6, 1)
Moneymaker; Matrix Cafe "Greene's"; Infobroker (3, 3)
Mr. Ren; Outside the Docks; Beat Cop (1, 3)
== Qualities ==
Blank Slate
Codeslinger (Hack on the Fly)
Overclocker
Perceptive
== Lifestyle ==
Deng Hau Appt (Medium) 2 Months
+ Cramped [-10%]
+ Grid Subscription (Local Grid)
+ Grid Subscription (Public Grid)
== Cyberware/Bioware ==
Cerebral Booster Rating 1
Datajack
Flashback System
Obvious Full Arm (AGI 3, STR 3, Physical 5) (Left)
+ ArmorRating 3
Obvious Full Arm (AGI 6, STR 5, Physical 6) (Right)
+ ArmorRating 3
+ Customized AgilityRating 6
+ Customized StrengthRating 5
+ Custom Submachine Gun
Simrig
Smartlink
Wired Reflexes Rating 1
== Armor ==
Ares Briefcase Shield +4
Armor Vest 9
+ Faraday Pocket
+ Nonconductivity 2
+ Responsive Interface Gear: Armor
Helmet +2
+ Responsive Interface Gear: Helmet
== Weapons ==
Ares Briefcase Shield
Pool: 0 Accuracy: 3 DV: 5P AP: - RC: 2
Ingram Smartgun X
+ Cyberimplanted
+ Gas-Vent 2 System
+ Smartgun System, Internal
+ Sound Suppressor
Pool: 9 Accuracy: 4 (6) DV: 8P AP: - RC: 4
Unarmed Attack
Pool: 3 Accuracy: 5 DV: 3S AP: - RC: 2
== Commlink ==
MCT Blue Defender (ATT: 0, SLZ: 0, DP: 1, FWL: 5)
+ Commlink Form Factor, Non-Standard (Bracelet)
+ Commlink Functionality [Camera, Micro, Chip Player, Credstick Reader, Earbuds, GPS Guidance System, Micro Trid-
Projector, Music Player, RFID Tag Scanner, Shock- and Water-Resistant Case, Touchscreen Display]
Meta Link (ATT: 0, SLZ: 0, DP: 1, FWL: 1) ×2
+ Commlink Functionality [Camera, Micro, Chip Player, Credstick Reader, Earbuds, GPS Guidance System, Micro Trid-
Projector, Music Player, RFID Tag Scanner, Shock- and Water-Resistant Case, Touchscreen Display]
Sony CIY-720 (ATT: 7, SLZ: 6, DP: 5, FWL: 4)
+ Sim Module, Hot
+ Universal Connector Cord (Meter)
+ Commlink Functionality [Camera, Micro, Chip Player, Credstick Reader, Earbuds, GPS Guidance System, Micro Trid-
Projector, Music Player, RFID Tag Scanner, Shock- and Water-Resistant Case, Touchscreen Display]
+ Armor
+ Baby Monitor
+ Cloudless
+ Fly on a Wall
+ Hammer
+ Smoke and Mirrors
+ Sneak
+ Stealth
+ Decryption
+ Wrapper
+ Browse
+ Configurator
+ Encryption
+ Signal Scrub
+ Virtual Machine
== Gear: Equipped ==
Ammo: Gel Rounds (Submachine Guns) ×100
Ammo: Regular Ammo (Submachine Guns) ×100
Ammo: Stick-n-Shock (Submachine Guns) ×100
Biomonitor ×2
Bodyguard BTL
Fake SIN (Lisa Steele) Rating 4
+ Fake License (Automatic Weapons License) Rating 4
+ Fake License (Restricted Cyberware License) Rating 4
+ Fake License (Restricted Armor License) Rating 4
+ Fake License (Matrix Software License) Rating 4
+ Fake License (Cyberdeck License) Rating 4
+ Fake License (Bodyguard License) Rating 4
+ Fake License (Projectile License) Rating 4
Headphones Rating 4
+ Select Sound Filter Rating 2
+ Audio Enhancement Rating 2
Medkit Rating 3
Personafix ×4
Slap Patch, Trauma Patch ×2
Spare Clip (Ingram Smartgun X) ×3
== Vehicles ==
Renault-Fiat Funone
+ Metahuman Adjustment Rating 1
+ [Model] Maneuvering Autosoft Rating 2
+Sensor Array rating 2

Mancing

== Personal Data ==
Street Name: Ice9-3
Name: Yes?
Movement: 4/8 (2m/hit)
Swim: 2 (1m/hit)
Karma: 0
Street Cred: 0
Notoriety: 3
Public Awareness: 0
Human
Composure: 13
Judge Intentions: 10
Lift/Carry: 7 (60 kg/40 kg)
Memory: 13
Nuyen: 1,195¥
== Priorities ==
Metatype: E,0
Attributes: A,4
Special: C,2
Skills: B,3
Resources: B,3
== Attributes ==
BOD: 3
AGI: 2 (4)
REA: 4 (6)
STR: 2 (4)
CHA: 5
INT: 5
LOG: 5
WIL: 6 (8)
EDG: 3
RES: 1
== Derived Attributes ==
Essence: 1.12
Initiative: 11 +1d6
Rigger Initiative: 11 +1d6
Astral Initiative:
Matrix AR: 11 +1d6
Matrix Cold: 5 + DP +3d6
Matrix Hot: 5 + DP +4d6
Physical Damage Track: 14
Stun Damage Track: 12
== Limits ==
Physical: 6
Mental: 8
Medkit [+3] (Only for First Aid and Medicine)
Medkit [+6] (Only for First Aid and Medicine)
Social: 7
Astral: 8
== Active Skills ==
Artisan Base: 0 Pool: 6
Automatics (Cyber-Implant) Base: 6 Pool: 10 (12)
Computer (Matrix Search) Base: 6 Pool: 11 (13)
Con Base: 2 Pool: 7
Cybercombat Base: 6 Pool: 11
Disguise Base: 2 Pool: 7
Electronic Warfare Base: 0 Pool: 7
Etiquette Base: 1 Pool: 6
Gymnastics Base: 0 Pool: 5
Hacking (Devices) Base: 6 Pool: 11 (13)
Hardware Base: 3 Pool: 8
Impersonation Base: 2 Pool: 7
Leadership Base: 1 Pool: 6
Negotiation Base: 1 Pool: 6
Palming Base: 2 Pool: 6
Perception Base: 6 Pool: 11
Performance Base: 2 Pool: 7
Running Base: 0 Pool: 5
Sneaking Base: 2 Pool: 6
Software Base: 6 Pool: 11
Swimming Base: 0 Pool: 5
Unarmed Combat Base: 0 Pool: 5
== Knowledge Skills ==
Arabic Base: 3 Pool: 8
English Native
Mandarin Base: 3 Pool: 8
Cybertechnology Base: 3 Pool: 8
Data Havens Base: 5 Pool: 10
Mathematics Base: 3 Pool: 8
Nanotechnology Base: 3 Pool: 8
== Contacts ==
Cheng; Beat on the labs; Beat Cop (1, 3)
Fly FLy fLY; Apartment near downtown; Infobroker (5, 2)
Greedy Greens; The oldest Techtronics; BTL Dealer (3, 3)
Moneymaker; Online unless necessary; Fixer (6, 1)
Mr. Metal; His Traveling Alchemist Lab's location of the week; Mercenary Alchemist (5, 1)
== Qualities ==
Bad Rep
Blank Slate
Cyber-Singularity Seeker
Resonant Stream: Cyberadept
Technomancer
== Complex Forms ==
(Tradition: Default, Resist Fading with WIL + RES = 9)
Overdrive
PuppeteerTarget: , Duration: , Fading Value:
== Lifestyle ==
The Emergency Exit (Low) 3 Months
+ Grid Subscription (Public Grid)
== Cyberware/Bioware ==
Antennae
Antennae
Biomonitor
Datajack
Dream Link
Flashback System
Implant Medic Rating 3 (Flashback System)
Nanohive, Hard Rating 2
Obvious Full Arm (AGI 3, STR 3, Physical 5) (Left)
+ ArmorRating 2
+ Built-in Toolkit
Obvious Full Arm (AGI 9, STR 6, Physical 7) (Right)
+ Custom Submachine Gun
+ Customized AgilityRating 6
+ Customized StrengthRating 6
+ Enhanced AgilityRating 3
+ ArmorRating 2
Obvious Full Leg (AGI 3, STR 3, Physical 5) (Left)
+ ArmorRating 2
Obvious Full Leg (AGI 3, STR 3, Physical 5) (Right)
+ ArmorRating 2
Reaction Enhancers Rating 2
Smartlink
== Armor ==
Armor Jacket 12
Helmet +2
== Weapons ==
Ingram Smartgun X
+ Cyberimplanted
+ Gas-Vent 2 System
+ Smartgun System, Internal
+ Sound Suppressor
Pool: 10 Accuracy: 4 (6) DV: 8P AP: - RC: 5
Unarmed Attack
Pool: 5 Accuracy: 6 DV: 4S AP: - RC: 3
== Commlink ==
Living Persona (ATT: 5, SLZ: 5, DP: 5, FWL: 8) Rating 1
Transys Arthur (ATT: 0, SLZ: 0, DP: 1, FWL: 1)
+ Commlink Functionality [Camera, Micro, Chip Player, Credstick Reader, Earbuds, GPS Guidance System, Micro Trid-
Projector, Music Player, RFID Tag Scanner, Shock- and Water-Resistant Case, Touchscreen Display]
+ Sim Module
Transys Avalon (ATT: 0, SLZ: 1, DP: 6, FWL: 6)
+ Commlink Functionality [Camera, Micro, Chip Player, Credstick Reader, Earbuds, GPS Guidance System, Micro Trid-
Projector, Music Player, RFID Tag Scanner, Shock- and Water-Resistant Case, Touchscreen Display]
+ Sim Module
+ Sim Module, Hot
+ Stealth Dongle Rating 1
== Gear: Equipped ==
Ammo: Gel Rounds (Submachine Guns) ×100
Ammo: Regular Ammo (Submachine Guns) ×100
Ammo: Stick-n-Shock (Submachine Guns) ×100
Berserkr BTL ×2
Bodyguard BTL ×2
Certified Credstick, Silver
Cram ×5
Fake SIN (Sarah Silverman) Rating 2
Fake SIN (Asuka Steel) Rating 5
+ Fake License (Automatic Weapons License) Rating 5
+ Fake License (Bounty Hunter's License) Rating 5
+ Fake License (Cyberdeck License) Rating 5
+ Fake License (Projectile License) Rating 5
+ Fake License (Cram License) Rating 5
+ Fake License (Concealed Carry Permit) Rating 5
+ Fake License (Restricted Cyberware License) Rating 5
+ Fake License (Matrix Software License) Rating 5
Long Haul ×5
Medkit Rating 3
Medkit Rating 6
Pacifier ×2
Personafix ×5
Spare Clip (Ingram Smartgun X) ×3
== Vehicles ==
Renault-Fiat Funone
+ Metahuman Adjustment Rating 1
+ Multifuel Engine
+ Nanomaintenance System Rating 2
+ Pilot Enhancement Rating 3
+ Sensor Enhancement Rating 2
+ [Model] Maneuvering Autosoft Rating 3 + Clearsight Autosoft Rating 3 + Sensor Array Rating 2

[Phaia]

Is there still interest in this. I have a character almost done for backup so i was wondering?

Phaia

[Conundrum]

I have finals next week so the weekend after this one will be when I start this.

[Phaia]

have you approved characters?

[Captain Whitebread]

I know mine hasn’t been approved because I haven’t submitted it

Numbers are done. Just have finished his background

[Captain Whitebread]

Bái Hǔ aka White Tiger
Kai Ling (Human)            Movement: 8/16 (2m/hit)     Swim: 4 (1m/hit)     
BOD AGI REA STR CHA INT LOG WIL EDG MAG ESS
4      4    4     4     4     4    4      4     2      6      6.00 (1) 
Init    Rigger Astral Matrix AR Matrix Cold  Matrix Hot CM        Physical Limit Mental Limit Social Limit Astral Limit
8+d6 8+d6  8+3d6 8+d6       4+DP+3d6 4+DP+4d6 10/10     6                    6                  6                6

Qualities: Magician

Active Skills: Alchemy 11, Animal Handling 3, Arcana 9, Archery 3, Armorer 3, Assensing 8, Astral Combat 8, Automatics (Machine Pistols) 8 (10), Blades (Knives) 7 (9), Clubs 3, Computer 3, Con 9, Cybercombat 3, Demolitions 3, Disguise 3, Diving 3, Escape Artist 3, Etiquette 8, First Aid 3, Forgery 3, Free-Fall 3, Gunnery 3, Gymnastics 8, Hacking 3, Heavy Weapons 3, Impersonation 3, Instruction 3, Intimidation 3, Leadership 8, Longarms 3, Navigation 6, Negotiation 8, Perception 7, Performance 3, Pilot Ground Craft (Wheeled) 7 (9), Pilot Watercraft 3, Pistols 3, Ritual Spellcasting 10, Running 8, Sneaking 7, Spellcasting 11, Summoning 11, Survival 6, Swimming 8, Throwing Weapons 3, Tracking 6, Unarmed Combat 3

Knowledge Skills:  N, Area Knowledge: Hong-Kong 8, Astronomy 7, Fight Clubs 6, Magic Traditions 6, Religion 6, Triads: Hong Kong 7


Weapon Pool Accuracy Damage AP Mode RC
Ceska Black Scorpion 8 (10) 5 (6) 6P - SA/BF 6 (7)
Concealable Holster, Folding Stock, Gas-Vent 3 System, Laser Sight, Spare Clip, Spare Clip
Ceska Black Scorpion 8 (10) 5 (6) 6P - SA/BF 6 (7)
Concealable Holster, Folding Stock, Gas-Vent 3 System, Laser Sight, Spare Clip, Spare Clip
Unarmed Attack 3 6 4S -  3
   
Combat Skill Rtg
Archery 3
Automatics (Machine Pistols) 8
Blades (Knives) 7
Clubs 3
Heavy Weapons 3
Longarms 3
Pistols 3
Throwing Weapons 3
Unarmed Combat 3
   
Armor (12) 
Armor Jacket 12
Clothing 0
Urban Explorer Jumpsuit 9
Biomonitor


Spells: Animate (P, LOS, None, S, F-1) , Detect Enemies, Extended (M, T, None, S, F) , Heal (M, T, None, P, F-4) , Levitate (P, LOS, None, S, F-2) , Magic Fingers (P, LOS, None, S, F-2) , Manaball (M, LOS (A), P, I, F) , Manabolt (M, LOS, P, I, F-3) , Mind Probe (M, T, None, S, F) , Mob Control (M, LOS (A), None, S, F+1) , Mob Mind (M, LOS, None, S, F+1) , Powerball (P, LOS (A), P, I, F) , Powerbolt (P, LOS, P, I, F-3)

Gear: Ammo: APDS (Machine Pistols) ×70, Ammo: Gel Rounds (Machine Pistols) ×140, Ammo: Regular Ammo (Machine Pistols) ×140, Binoculars, Optical [Vision Magnification] , DocWagon Contract, Gold (1 Year Advance Payment), Slap Patch, Tranq Patch 6 ×10, Slap Patch, Trauma Patch ×10, Tool Shop (Artificing), Tool Shop (Alchemy), Tool Shop (Spellcasting), Tool Shop (Summoning)

== Description ==
Bái Hǔ aka White Tiger
Faceclaim: Chin Siu Ho

[Conundrum]

OOC is up

https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=297867

I had some ideas and did some big rewrites to the overarching plot so I apologize for the delay.  Due to the amount of nitty gritty for characters in Shadowrun I will only disapprove on mechanics if something is blatantly broken, otherwise assume you are fine and approved.