Pitch this GM a game idea!

[Creeper]

Ever have a game idea, one that is so awsome, so fantastic that you're grinding your teeth to play it, but your GM doesn't want to run it, or you don't have the time to GM it yourself? Well, it's your lucky day! My ideas (if you can tell from the other thread) didn't really drum up the support needed to justify setting a game up (though BESM gave a good showing), but my fingers are still itchin' to GM something. ANYTHING.

So, how will this work? Simple. Just pitch your idea, and I'll tell you if I'm interested in running the game or not. If 5 other people post their interest in a paticular game, then I'll set it up and we'll all start playing.

There will be a few guidlines to match my paticular style. Take these into consideration while making your pitch.

- None of my games are the kind where the PC is just left in (Insert City/country/spacestation name here) and abandoned by the GM to do what they want. If you don't go looking for The Plot, the Plot will come looking for you. All the plots will be constructed indivdually matching the character's history and goals. If you want your plot to be following a paticular goal or theme, PM me or put it on your character sheet.

-The PC's arn't likely to meet up with each other. Posting will be in individual topics, primarily between GM and PC. I find that the game moves faster when there are just the two people involved. Exceptions can be made, of course. Just PM me about the Character you want to meet, and I'll arrange it.

-Any sex will also be plotted to the player's interests. My own interests will make apperances (tentacles, hermaphrodites, other weird stuff) but none of these will be inflicted on your characters unless you want them. Tickling, bondage, violence, whatever it is, I'll ensure your interests get in your story. The amount of Combat as well, will be plotted to your tastes.

-The setting is mutable. You can conqure the country, lift the Dreadful aeons-old curse, or burn the capital city down. It won't be easy, or done quickly, but it IS possible in my games.

-No entirely reality-based games, please. I play these games to get away from boring real life. Aliens, magic, werewolves, there's gotta be something exotic about it!

-You can pitch a game with a published system. If I posess the system and like it, I'll run it. If I don't, or hate it, I won't. Still need's 6 interested players, though.


So... get to it! I wanna hear your ideas! Wheather it's a setting you've worked on for years, or just a 1-liner! Tell me!

[Siegfried]

Back when I lived in London (Ontario folks, not England), me and my friends had a good time playing X-Men Evolution or Buffy the Vampire Slayer campaigns.  We use Fusion system alot for most of our games but you don't have to here.

[Creeper]

There's a lot of superhero games going on already, but if there's demand for it I could run another, but I don't have fusion. I'd probably use Mutants and Masterminds, or Aberrant by Whitewolf. Any call for Buffy or X-men?

[Siegfried]

Stay away from White Wolf.  Having to roll more dice instead of having a target number is just too much of a hassle.

[Cosmo_ac]

sounds interesting creeper.  Might i ask what your innitial game was?

[Creeper]

Initial game that got the most support was a Comedy BESM game, a parody of Goverment agencys and multi-dimensional hijinks. The characters were over-exceptional humans or beings from other dimensions that got recruited/bribed/blackmailed/threatened into working for a broke Goverment agency who were tasked with cleaning up extra-dimensional messes.

Oh, and I heart White-wolf's systems. There's a sort of pure joy to hurling a ton of dice on a table.

[Cosmo_ac]

There's a sort of pure joy to hurling a ton of dice on a table.

Lol, well as an occasional craps player, i can appreciate that ;)

[Creeper]

Lol, well as an occasional craps player, i can appreciate that ;)

Appreciate by pitching an idea! A bunch of other people might find it appealing!

[Cosmo_ac]

Well, i just pitched an idea for my own game, so i'm not sure if i have any for you.  To be honest, i'm not much of an experienced gamer, though i do love RPG's and fantasy.  Maybe you should check out my game idea.  ;)

[Creeper]

I did check it out. I like the setting, but I hate the system you use for it. No offence ment, of course.

[Cosmo_ac]

lol, none taken.  And the system showed in the link i posted was a first draft, so it was a bit rough. Basically, i wanted to create a game that was fairly basic.  I love AD&D setting, but it seems to get so techinical at times.  I just wanted something anybody could pick up relatively easy and play instead of having to learn 180 pages of rules.  hence the name "Battle Basic" :D

From what you've posted below though, you do sound like you might indeed be a fun GM to play for.  a good fantasy RPG i think you'd do well with.  If you do set up a game, i'd be willing to join perhaps.  You could go for a basic 3.5 game, at least i have the book for that, though not overly experienced with it.  Or, you could just do something simple. 

[Creeper]

DnD is a bit too complicated for a Forum game. I've found that loose systems work best on pbp games.

In any case I suppose it would be easier to list the systems I do have. I've got DnD 3.5, Exalted (with most of the suppliments), Mage: The Ascension (with most of the suppliments), Demon: The Fallen, New WoD, Mage: the Awakening, Shadowrun 3rd edition, Unknown Armies, BESM 2nd edition, Mutants and Masterminds.

Oh! And a really battered copy of Changeling: The Dreaming.

Of course, I'm still very willing to play Freeform.

[Hunter]

I don't know if this would appeal much to anyone else but how about a game theme similar to the old PS1 Legend of the Dragoon?

[Siegfried]

I friend of mind showed me that game.  He was pretty far though it at the time so I didn't catch the entire drift, but it did look interesting.

[Creeper]

I don't know if this would appeal much to anyone else but how about a game theme similar to the old PS1 Legend of the Dragoon?

You, Sir, are too beautiful for this world.

I loved that game. I remember playing that game for hours when I first got it. Scared my 21 year old elder brother out of bed by shouting 'GUST OF THE WIND DANCE FUCKERS!' at a paticular boss. I forget which one.

A theme similar, you say? How about a low-magic fantasy world, recovering from a cataclysm so devistating that it slaughtered the Gods.  But there was a problem; gods do not naturally possess a state called 'Death'. How do you slay the sun? How do you shatter the Moon?
The closest thing that they have is the destruction of their Minds. The energy and faith that truely makes up their forms filiters down into Orbs of power, and rained down into the world. Any mortal that finds them slowly gains control of the god's power.

Something like that. System would probably be freeform.

[Hunter]

Tee hee.  Why not just go ahead and make the game on that particular theme and characters?  Maybe set a few years later?(dibs on Miranda!)

[Creeper]

'Cause I forgot most of the story, and I lost my CDs

:-[

[Hunter]

Too bad.  Count me as interested, though.  ^_^

[Muse]

Oh, my, where to begin! 

Well, since I mentioned it before, Seventh Sea, an excelent system, though you have to stretch it just a little bit before it lends itself to Hentai. 

Mage: The Ascenion, any edition, perhaps with slightly experienced starting charecters.  Not too experienced, maybe free Arete 4 and +10-40 EXP? 

I'd love to play my shinto temple girl/skater girl/martial artist/olympic gymnast/demon hunter Kumiko in a good game with plenty of action and a bit of sexy NC wierdness...  Or more than a bit.  :) 

Changeling: The Dreaming, with some extra EXP would be similiarly awesome. 

A Shape CHangers game for white wolf would be similiarly awesome.  Probably not Werewolf since they run in packs, but a story about a Corax could be fun, they interact with everyone.  What would be extra cool, though it would require a group of five (sentai) would be a Henokai game (set in Japan?) with five difrent shape changing girls out to battle the centepede and getting into really intresting sitations when they lost. 

I'd be intrested in just about any White Wolf game but Vampire.  Vampire's not totaly bad, but I've already got my vampire fix in a GURPS game.  Demon: The Fallen I haven't read, but nor have I forgiven them for replacing Changeling in the line up. 

Exalted rocks beyond all compare.  A high level Exalted game to move Yume into from a game that died would be nice.  BUt on the other hand, I've got a few Exalted venues right now, so other games would be preferable. 

Speaking of other games, one that looked intresting but I never got to play was Dead Lands, the Roll Playing Game of the Wierd, Wierd West.  That would be fun. 

[Creeper]

Don't have 7th sea, Werewolf, Deadlands, or Vampire (Don't like Vampire).

An Adept-level Mage would be fun, but I doubt you can get much support for it around here. Even less likely with Changeling, but if I get enough interest, I'll run both.

Exalted is, indeed, awsome to the extreme, but I too am in quite a few of those games, and waiting for Zulokitty to start her game.

[Muse]

Same here. 

[Muse]

Since you're doing mostly one on one, could the request be for World of Darkness, systems that the DM enjoys? 

So, someone could play a mage in one part of the world/city, someone else a changeling in another part, someone else a bastet or corax elsewhere? 

Or, fi I misread that and you do want us working together, or at last in the same city woards the same goal, could we be a band of diverse world of darkness being united by a Corax towards mutual goals? 

[Ajoxer]

I'm very much into Changeling, by the way. I'd be thrilled to play some- Though I warn you, I typically play Pooka.

[Creeper]

Hmm... a multi-genre oWoD game... Yeah, that would most defenatly work. IF we can gather enough other players, of course.

[Jefepato]

I have some WoD stuff lying around, but I have no idea of the relative edition of my Changeling stuff.

Which is a shame, since changelings are surprisingly powerful.

[Hunter]

*politely declines if it's going to be a WoD game*
(hates the system and the background both)

[Ty]

Various WoD systems could be promising.

[ZK]

I could help with Changeling: The Dreaming. I own all the books, both 1st and 2nd edtion from the regular Kithian to the strange Hsien. ^-^

[Creeper]

That's 5. If we can find one more willing to play, I'll make the system.

[Idachan]

*head explodes from a rush of ideas* 

I´m eagerly expressing my intrest. But you better limit me to Changeling or else I´ll run around in a beaheaded chicken fashion for a while.

[Muse]

Whoot!  Six Players!  Thank you, ida-chan! 

[Idachan]

 :)

[ZK]

Well, as things go. Heh, I own and know all the systems of oWoD and nWoD. If ANYONE needs help, I'll extend my hand...

[Creeper]

Well, looks like I've gotten enough players... But my life has hit a bumpy point, so the game won't be up for a few days.

I went back through 2nd edition, and realised why so many of my other players had problems with it. There will be a number of houserules.

Houserules In a nutshell:

-Everything updated to 3rd edition
-Glamour and Blanalty will be better defined
-The appearance of your seeming will not be restricted by Kith. Kith will represent an Concept, an idea rather then a straight 'Race'. I don't really see creatures born from dreams looking all the same.
-Better definition of the barrier between the Dreaming and the Autum world
-Bunks will be easier to do overall, you won't have to struggle to affect a mortal.
-Some Mage/Changling interaction rules.

[Muse]

Is there a GM request and/or consensus as to wether the game will be pure changeling, or changeling/mage crossover, or completly multi-venue? 

I'm good for either. 

[ZK]

Since the change of "Kith" appearance, I'll decline and pull myself out of the game.

That to me doesn't set well. I agree on everything else, just breaking that mechanic doesn't set well with me.

[Muse]

Now I'm lost.  How is makign the appearence of your kith less set in stone breaking a mechanic? 

[ZK]

Because all the Kiths have backgrounds and histories as to why they look that way. Taking it away breaks the games mechanics as for ability modifiers, special attributes as well as familiarity in the past.

As for the "Appearance", it's possible to have an appearance 5 Redcap or Sluagh.

Just, please, don't take away their distinguished looks. It's a portion of what makes the Kith.

[Idachan]

Because all the Kiths have backgrounds and histories as to why they look that way. Taking it away breaks the games mechanics as for ability modifiers, special attributes as well as familiarity in the past.

As for the "Appearance", it's possible to have an appearance 5 Redcap or Sluagh.

Just, please, don't take away their distinguished looks. It's a portion of what makes the Kith.

I agree mostly but I do think some changes to looks can work extremly well, in nordic mythology young Troll maidens where petite and fair, adding that would not harm for those female Trolls descending from northern Europe. Having a Troll with fur and pink skin is quite unnecessary though. Tweaks and slight changes within the frame of background and concept yes, freeflowing fantasy that goes over the top no thank you.

[Creeper]

It's going to be a Changling/Mage crossover, though how much interaction between the two will mostly be determined by the player's actions.

There are enough 'Standard' looking fae to set sterotypes, but fae are creatures of dreams, it would be blanal, in my mind, to say they stay the same throughout the ages. I only have the 2nd edtion book too, so I can't say much about their appearance-based history.

It's not that I'm taking away their distiguising looks, it's just that those looks will be volentary, rather then enforced. A changeling's Seeming can change with age and experience, just like a mortal's body can.

Oh, I forgot the mage houserules.

-Resonance will have a much stronger effect on a Mage's magic and life.
-No fast-casting penalty
-Technology will no longer be 'Evil'
-Certamen rules
-Less Technocratic influence, there will be much more inter-tradition clashes

[ZK]

I own all the Changeling books. Second Edition was the last edition. BUT for the reasoning of their basic looks, it goes with what they could merge from human dreams after being around humans for such a long time. It's why they start OUT with banality since they're still partially human and the Fae soul is stained with it. Sure, some do have unique characteristics and they do differ from ages of the Fae Mein.

As for Seeming, I think you have it crossed. The Seeming is what their mortal self looks like. Which can in deed, be vastly different then your Fae Mein. The Fae Mein is the "race" or the type of dream the being embodies over the time. And yes, regional areas DOES infact effect the Fae Mein. But, the general description of each Kith is in fact a race.


It was all because of the Shattering and such they were forced to take familiar shapes.

The "true" Fae as it was, was the Sidhe. As they're the last to cross over, they take more of the traditional routes of the Fae.

But, everyone is a Changeling, Partial Human, Part Fae. If they didn't have the "human" part in it. Their Fae Mein wouldn't be as general as it is.

That's the reason for their general looks. Due to what happened in the past, it forced them to take familiar shapes and over time, their Fae Souls begin to erode with the rise in banality, they resulted in adapting to shapes best suited for the "dream" they're based on.

So, the basis of General Appearance does stay and goes with each portion of the age of the Kithian's Fae Mein, but aside from the "general" looks, the actual Fae Mein is unique depending upon each type of Kithian.

As for the Technocracy being "evil" They're not. Just, missunderstood. Just like the majority of all things from the oWoD.

Only thing sofar being truly evil is the Earthbound.

But, as things go on the Fae discussion. They didn't -start- out as Kithian. They were one. Then came humanity. Which fucked up rythm all along and -forced- them into shapes.

Now if they all had no general appearance portion on Kithian, they would always be truly immortal, they wouldn't age, there would be no Kithian and well, they would be a True Fae instead of a Changeling.

An example. All Satyrs have horns and goat's lower half. That's right. But forcing all Satyrs to be nude, or wear skimpy clothes in their Fae Mein is -bad-.

General Appearances need to stay. That's all I want.

[Jefepato]

2nd was the last edition?  That's good -- it's all I have.

Zulokitty, do you happen to know whether the Shadow Court book was for 1st or 2nd?

[ZK]

The Shadow Court was for Second Edition.

As for the transitory move between First and Second, not really much was change. Only a few Cantrip and Bunk alterations and added storyline.

[Muse]

Okay, I'd like to play my skater girl mage Kumiko, since I've been looking for a good game to play her in for forever. 

If a second charecter is allowed, I'd like to play a changeling game as well, since it's really my only chance.  Either winged female sidhe or male giant (seelie troll).  If a second charecter is allowed, I'll work with the group to see which changeling charecter would better fit. 

[Creeper]

I own all the Changeling books. Second Edition was the last edition. BUT for the reasoning of their basic looks, it goes with what they could merge from human dreams after being around humans for such a long time. It's why they start OUT with banality since they're still partially human and the Fae soul is stained with it. Sure, some do have unique characteristics and they do differ from ages of the Fae Mein.

As for Seeming, I think you have it crossed. The Seeming is what their mortal self looks like. Which can in deed, be vastly different then your Fae Mein. The Fae Mein is the "race" or the type of dream the being embodies over the time. And yes, regional areas DOES infact effect the Fae Mein. But, the general description of each Kith is in fact a race.


It was all because of the Shattering and such they were forced to take familiar shapes.

The "true" Fae as it was, was the Sidhe. As they're the last to cross over, they take more of the traditional routes of the Fae.

But, everyone is a Changeling, Partial Human, Part Fae. If they didn't have the "human" part in it. Their Fae Mein wouldn't be as general as it is.

That's the reason for their general looks. Due to what happened in the past, it forced them to take familiar shapes and over time, their Fae Souls begin to erode with the rise in banality, they resulted in adapting to shapes best suited for the "dream" they're based on.

So, the basis of General Appearance does stay and goes with each portion of the age of the Kithian's Fae Mein, but aside from the "general" looks, the actual Fae Mein is unique depending upon each type of Kithian.

As for the Technocracy being "evil" They're not. Just, missunderstood. Just like the majority of all things from the oWoD.

Only thing sofar being truly evil is the Earthbound.

But, as things go on the Fae discussion. They didn't -start- out as Kithian. They were one. Then came humanity. Which fucked up rythm all along and -forced- them into shapes.

Now if they all had no general appearance portion on Kithian, they would always be truly immortal, they wouldn't age, there would be no Kithian and well, they would be a True Fae instead of a Changeling.

An example. All Satyrs have horns and goat's lower half. That's right. But forcing all Satyrs to be nude, or wear skimpy clothes in their Fae Mein is -bad-.

General Appearances need to stay. That's all I want.

I can understand your point of view Zulo, but to me that is quite limiting. General appearances aren't leaving, they just aren't enforced. "Change", wanted and unwanted, Is going to be a very signifigant theme for both Mage and Changeling in this game, and I would like the rules to signify that. Characters will be able to look like whatever they like.

And I never said The Technocracy was evil, just that they'd play a lesser role in the Mage side then usual. The 'Technology is not evil' bit was a feeling I got from Changling more then Mage, and probably should have added it to the first list.

[ZK]

Which with me breaks the entire game as it is. Honestly. It's Changeling, not Dark Ages: Fae or Exalted: The Fair Folk. It's meant to be limiting as I stated before for reasons.

[ZK]

I guess I'm out of the game then. Too far fetched from their general appearance breaks the game.

Kithian are in fact races of Fae.

[Creeper]

Which with me breaks the entire game as it is. Honestly. It's Changeling, not Dark Ages: Fae or Exalted: The Fair Folk. It's meant to be limiting as I stated before for reasons.

I re-checked the core, and there was nothing about the sundering or the shattering that made kiths. But you probably have access to more books then I.

I can understand you disagreeing with a houserule, but it sounds like your saying it's wrongbadfun. I prefure to think that the base concepts of dreams, innocence and belief are more important to the game then appearance. I could understant it in, like, werewolf, but this is Changling, and there are a whole number of other fae and fae-like creatures in mythology all around the world.

I'm sorry you disagree, but it's good you voiced your objections now rather then when I made the game. Good luck in your endevors.

[Muse]

So do I need to hunt you up more players, boss? 

[Ajoxer]

I'm still here. Just have been a tad bit busy lately. Still interested, of course. ^_^ I don't mind there being changeability in the Fae Mien, because frankly, I'm probably still going to play pretty heavily towards stereotype. I'm thinking a male Snake Pooka, as per the Clanbook- Expensive, but so damn cool. ^_^

Probably going to skirt the edge between Seelie and Unseelie, and would likely go out of his way to make contact with the mages, though he might not be the most social of people...

[Creeper]

No, I'm making the game. The only reason I ask for 6 people to raise interest is that usually only half of those interested send a character sheet. I have a good feeling that most folks here will send one in.

[ZK]

Heh, if you don't mind be being a "stereotype" in appearance I will. And yes, I do have acess to more books when it comes to C:TD. I own the entire line. *ish a book collector* ^-^

[Muse]

Thanks, Creeper, what about the question of two charecters? 

[Creeper]

I'd Like for everyone to have only 1 character for the moment.

Your character can look like whatever you'd like it to look like. 60% of the Fae have the sterotypical look anyways, so you won't be alone.

I've sent pixie a request for a forum. We just gotta wait for the moment.

[Muse]

So a starting level third edition mage.. 

Do you know any 3rd edition rules for Do, or do I just use Brawl? 

[Creeper]

Use 3rd edition Do, but you have to buy it with freebies.

[Muse]

Um...  Okay, where do I find third edition Do, and how many freeibes does it cost?  (if I'm being confusing, I'm talkign about Akashic Brotherhood Martial Arts.)

[Creeper]

Third edition Do is in the Third edition Akaskic (sic) brotherhood traditionbook. If you don't have it, just use brawl. It costs as much as any ability.

[Muse]

Thanks. 

[Idachan]

Weighing between Troll and Sluagh here...

[Creeper]

As you come up with your character, please keep in mind what sort of game you'd like to play. With the seperate character format, we could have high action-adventure with one thread, and deep political drama with the other. I'm serious when I say that I'm catering the game to the player's tastes.

[Idachan]

Sounds absolutely lovely. I am going to have to read up on the kiths and so on before I decide though, the two characters backgrounds would be quite different which would indeed make for great difference in what kind of games they would fit in.

[Jefepato]

I'm trying to decide between troll, redcap, and pooka here.

Creeper, should I assume character creation is standard?  Can stuff from outside the core Changeling book be used (kithbook Merits/Flaws, Arts from other books, and so forth)?  Any other house rules we need to be aware of?

[Ajoxer]

I'm actually the kind of person who would prefer joining another person's adventure, so if anyone would be interested in having a slightly goofy Pooka guy with a macabre streak joining them, I'd leap to the occasion. ^_^ I should try somebody beside a Pooka some time... but I'll be damned if I will, because I'm that kinda person.

[Creeper]

I'm still deciding on house rules, but I largely encourage made up stuff, like wonders and rotes and what have you.

The game is up, check World of Darkness: Bad Dreams in NC: Exotic system.