Shadowrun Online! [5th edition]

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Are you ready to experience an all new way of existing, transcending the limits that the current gaming industry has to offer?  If you're an adventurer, a risk seeker, a viking ready to conquer a new and exciting land, than you have come to the right place!  We at Argus would like to announce the grand opening of the most anticipated game of the century; Shadowrun Online!  Maybe you're a fan of the old school table top game, the numerous fictional books, or even the games that have already been released;  or maybe you're new to the Shadowrun setting altogether, and want to become a part of history; whichever of these fits you the most, you'll find satisfaction joining our brand new Virtual Reality Massive Multiplayer RPG, Shadowrun Online. 

Thanks to our full dive technology, you'll be able to immerse yourself fully into the Shadowrun setting.  Create a character, a whole new personality, and live the life of an eco friendly Shaman, a fast fly by your pants Decker, an intimidating Street Samurai, or a number of other archetypes available for creation.  So what are you waiting for?  Head over to your nearest gaming retailer and purchase your own nerve ware and copy of Shadowrun Online today!






Alright folks, this is a crossover between Sword Art Online, and the 5th edition of Shadowrun.  The game's premise is that a new Virtual Reality MMORPG, based on the Shadowrun game, has been released.  The excitement stems not only from the fact that this is based on Shadowrun, or because it's an MMORPG, but because this is the first virtual reality MMORPG to ever be released.  A year of beta testing has already passed, and there is talk about how fun this game is.  The grand opening is beginning, and you will be creating a character who buys and dives into the game during said grand opening. 

At first everything seems peachy, it's fun, as has been promised, and you're excited to see how far you can get into this game.  Unfortunately for you, things don't go as smoothly as you had hoped, and you're forcibly transported into the games version of Seattle.  It's here that it's revealed that there is no way for you to log out, and if any outside forces try to disconnect you, you're body will die.  You're trapped here, in this man created world, until the games final mystery has been solved, if it can even be solved.  If you die within the game, you die in the real world, and dying is a very real possibility.  You have only a few choices, try to beat the game, try to live out whatever life you can in this dangerous world, or take your own life and end it all. 

In this game, you'll be a member of a team that tries to muck through the games mystery, fighting through 100 missions to get to the very end and save everyone who has been trapped.  This will follow the fifth edition rule book, but there will also be a sort of sandbox element for you to hash out personal stories. 

I'll be GM'ing, but this is my first foray into the setting and GM'ing system games in general, so please expect a few bumpy patches as I learn to smooth over any rough patches I may have.  One day out of the week, will be dedicated to the main missions.  During this time, there will be one thread for the mechanics, and one for narrative.  That day will be determined once we've gotten our cast of players, and we can determine which day and time slot will be the most convenient.  The rest of the week other threads will be available for you guys to write out post's for personal interactions that are outside of the main missions.  If situations that require my attention(fights,dangerous situations) occur during this time, I'll be available for that.  But for the most part the system will be used the majority of time for the main missions.

I'm looking for around 3 players, which might increase if I can get a co-gm.  But this isn't a first come first serve, so anyone is welcome to apply to join, and I'll pick the characters who fit best into this game.  All character archetypes are available for you to play, and you can be human or any other type of metahuman.    A character sheet will be up soon, so expect that.  I want players who at least know what both SAO and Shadowrun are, and who are willing to put in a little work in getting to know what both settings are about, and how to play the fifth edition of SR, if you aren't already familiar with it.  People who will be understanding that I'm new to this is a must!  We'll be using E's dice system exclusively.  As I'm new to this, those players who get chosen are more than encouraged to give me suggestions, or point out mistakes I might be making.  This game will be set in NC:Exotic systems.





You should use a real image, not a drawing or anime character for the real world part of your sheet, but you have more freedom of choice for the Shadowrun part.

Character Sheet

Real World Character Sheet


Name:

Age:

Gender:

Sexual Orientation:

Distinguishing Features/Marks:

Noteworthy Skills:

Personality:

Background:






Shadowrun Character Sheet


Personal Data

Name/Primary Alias:
Metatype:
Ethnicity:
Age:
Gender:
Height:
Weight:

Street Cred:
Notoriety:
Public Awareness:
Karma:
Total Karma:
Misc:

Attributes


Body:
Agility:
Reaction:
Strength:
Willpower:
Logic:
Intuition:
Charisma:
Edge:
Essence:
Magic:

Initiative:

Composure:
Judge Intentions:
Memory:
Lift/Carry:
Movement:

Physical Limit: 
Mental limit: 
Social limit:

Skills

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all skills listed

Skill Name:
Skill Name:
Skill Name:
Skill Name:

Gear

Nuyen:
Primary Lifestyle:

Gear

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all items listed.  Licences, Fake ID's, and related lifestyle things go here to.



Melee Weapons

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all weapons listed.



Ranged Weapons

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all weapons listed.





Armor

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all armour listed.




Comlink/Deck

Model:
Attack:
Sleaze:
Device Rating:
Data Processing:
Firewall:
Programs:


Vehicle

Vehicle:
Handling:
Acceleration:
Speed:
Pilot:
Body:
Armor:
Sensor:
Notes:


Augmentations

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all augmentations abilities listed.




Spells/Preparations/Rituals/Complex Forms

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all augmentations/paranormal abilities listed.

S/P/R/CF, Type/Target, Range, Duration, Drain




Contacts

You can add one of the three contact's listed below to your profile.  All contacts are low level contacts that are meant to provide Newbs with game mechanics.


  • Bartender:  Places you can find them - Any Bar/Nightclub
  • Mr. Johnson:  Places you can find them - Any fast food restaurant
  • Street Doc:  Places you can find them - Any clinic

Adept Powers or Other Abilities

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all augmentations/paranormal abilities listed.



Qualities

You can ignore all qualities that are involve personality.  Please add a small page reference or a summary to all Qualities listed.






[center][font=arial][size=18pt]Real World Character Sheet[/size][/font][/center]

[float=left][img height=300 padding=10]https://elliquiy.com/elluiki/images/0/00/BlankCharacter.png[/img][/float]

[b]Name:[/b]

[b]Age:[/b]

[b]Gender:[/b]

[b]Sexual Orientation:[/b]

[b]Distinguishing Features/Marks:[/b]

[b]Noteworthy Skills:[/b]

[b]Personality:[/b]

[b]Background:[/b]

[clearleft]
[hr]

[center][font=arial][size=18pt]Shadowrun Character Sheet[/size][/font][/center]

[float=right][img height=300 padding=10]https://elliquiy.com/elluiki/images/0/00/BlankCharacter.png[/img][/float]

[center][size=14pt][b]Personal Data[/b][/size][/center]

[b]Name/Primary Alias:[/b]
[b]Metatype:[/b]
[b]Ethnicity:[/b]
[b]Age:[/b]
[b]Gender:[/b]
[b]Height:[/b]
[b]Weight:[/b]

[b]Street Cred:[/b]
[b]Notoriety:[/b]
[b]Public Awareness:[/b]
[b]Karma:[/b]
[b]Total Karma:[/b]
[b]Misc:[/b]

[center][size=14pt][b]Attributes[/b][/size][/center]


[b]Body:[/b]
[b]Agility:[/b]
[b]Reaction:[/b]
[b]Strength:[/b]
[b]Willpower:[/b]
[b]Logic:[/b]
[b]Intuition:[/b]
[b]Charisma:[/b]
[b]Edge:[/b]
[b]Essence:[/b]
[b]Magic:[/b]

[b]Initiative:[/b]

[b]Composure:[/b]
[b]Judge Intentions:[/b]
[b]Memory:[/b]
[b]Lift/Carry:[/b]
[b]Movement:[/b]

[b]Physical Limit:[/b] 
[b]Mental limit:[/b] 
[b]Social limit:[/b]

[center][size=14pt][b]Skills[/b][/size][/center]

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all skills listed

[b]Skill Name:[/b]
[b]Skill Name:[/b]
[b]Skill Name:[/b]
[b]Skill Name:[/b]

[center][size=14pt][b]Gear[/b][/size][/center]

[b]Nuyen:[/b]
[b]Primary Lifestyle:[/b]

[left][size=12pt][b]Gear[/b][/size][/left]

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all items listed.  Licences, Fake ID's, and related lifestyle things go here to.

[list]
[li][/li]
[li][/li]
[li][/li]
[li][/li]
[/list]

[left][size=12pt][b]Melee Weapons[/b][/size][/left]

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all weapons listed.

[list]
[li][/li]
[li][/li]
[li][/li]
[li][/li]
[/list]

[left][size=12pt][b]Ranged Weapons[/b][/size][/left]

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all weapons listed.


[list]
[li][/li]
[li][/li]
[li][/li]
[li][/li]
[/list]


[left][size=12pt][b]Armor[/b][/size][/left]

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all armour listed.


[list]
[li][/li]
[li][/li]
[li][/li]
[li][/li]
[/list]

[left][size=12pt][b]Comlink/Deck[/b][/size][/left]

[b]Model:[/b]
[b]Attack:[/b]
[b]Sleaze:[/b]
[b]Device Rating:[/b]
[b]Data Processing:[/b]
[b]Firewall:[/b]
[b]Programs:[/b]


[left][size=12pt][b]Vehicle[/b][/size][/left]

[b]Vehicle:[/b]
[b]Handling:[/b]
[b]Acceleration:[/b]
[b]Speed:[/b]
[b]Pilot:[/b]
[b]Body:[/b]
[b]Armor:[/b]
[b]Sensor:[/b]
[b]Notes:[/b]


[left][size=12pt][b]Augmentations[/b][/size][/left]

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all augmentations abilities listed.

[list]
[li][/li]
[li][/li]
[li][/li]
[li][/li]
[/list]


[left][size=12pt][b]Spells/Preparations/Rituals/Complex Forms[/b][/size][/left]

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all augmentations/paranormal abilities listed.

S/P/R/CF, Type/Target, Range, Duration, Drain

[list]
[li][/li]
[li][/li]
[li][/li]
[li][/li]
[/list]


[left][size=12pt][b]Contacts[/b][/size][/left]

You can add one of the three contact's listed below to your profile.  All contacts are low level contacts that are meant to provide Newbs with game mechanics.

[list]
[li][b]Bartender:[/b]  Places you can find them - Any Bar/Nightclub[/li]
[li][b]Mr. Johnson:[/b]  Places you can find them - Any fast food restaurant[/li]
[li][b]Street Doc:[/b]  Places you can find them - Any clinic[/li]
[/list]

[left][size=12pt][b]Adept Powers or Other Abilities[/b][/size][/left]

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all augmentations/paranormal abilities listed.

[list]
[li][/li]
[li][/li]
[li][/li]
[li][/li]
[/list]

[center][size=14pt][b]Qualities[/b][/size][/center]

You can ignore all qualities that are involve personality.  Please add a small page reference or a summary to all Qualities listed.

[list]
[li][/li]
[li][/li]
[li][/li]
[li][/li]
[/list]

[clearright]

"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

Marie Reynolds


undisclosedtoyou

You have all my thanks!  You can't even comprehend the level of thankfulness I have for you right now! 
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

Marie Reynolds


undisclosedtoyou

What type of archetype are you thinking of making?
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

Marie Reynolds

I am thinking of running my first street samurai.

undisclosedtoyou

Oh, that sounds exciting! Human or another kind of metahuman?
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

Marie Reynolds

I am not quite sure yet on what race yet.

undisclosedtoyou

Well there's plenty of time for that, so whatever you choose will rock!
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

Marie Reynolds

Yep still have to think on what my Concept will be for outside the game as well.

undisclosedtoyou

"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

Marie Reynolds

*laughs* I have already done one porn related character involved in a  Shadow Run game might spread my wings a bit.

akirakaneda

cool, very interesting intro, but ... is any profile sheet? just to know how detailed our character is expected to be

undisclosedtoyou

I put in the intro post that a character sheet will be put up soon, but so far it's going to be a two parter.  A small bit for you put info about who your character is in the real world, and a more detailed bit for you to create your Shadowrun character.  Expect the more detailed part to be pretty darn close, if not exactly like a sheet you'd usually use for a Shadowrun game.  If you want to see what one would look like, here's one you can check out.  Click here
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

Muse

  *Waves*  I'm eager to give this a try.   I can watch a bit of sword art onliine if it'll help. i've got some familiarty with Shadowrun. 

  In game, I'd like to play a Mytic ADept, but I'm flexible.  :) 

  I'll choose a gender based on what else is in the ame.  I think if it's he, his name will be Mathew Kirk.  If I do a girl, her name will be J.T. Kirk.  :) 
A link for all of us who ever had a shouting match with our muse: http://www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_gilbert_on_genius.html

How to set this Muse ablaze (O/Os)

When the little angel won't appear no matter how many plum blossoms you swirl:  https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=135346.msg16474321#msg16474321 (Major update 5/10/2023)

undisclosedtoyou

I have to admit, I was hoping you'd join Muse!  I think we've only been in one game together, but I'm not sure(?). 

I do suggest watching Sword Art Online.  Technically I'm only taking themes from it, for plot purposes, but it might help you paint a picture in your head of my intentions.  Plus I think it's entertaining, so I'm biased.  You can probably find it via a quick google search, but it's on Crunchyroll, if you're already familiar with that streaming site. 

Ooooooh, Mystic Adept sounds awesome!  I, obviously, have no problem with that.

Kirk :D  Both names rock!
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

TheGlyphstone

So I know I'll probably end up regretting this, but count me in as interested. Probably something magical - I've never actually tried playing a Shadowrun spellcaster - either a shaman or a mage,depending on research.

undisclosedtoyou

Yay, I spot a Glyph!  Your interest is counted, and whatever you come up with will be awesome!
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

Cuchulainn

I think I'll apply do we post bios or send them to you via pm?

Marie Reynolds

So when we chose our priorities should we put nothing in the nuyen  or what since I take it most of us will be new players to the game.Cause I am sure none of us will be beaters or beta testers.

Muse

Doesn't seem like that would be very fair to the people who use augmentations, M.R.  Magically active characters are nice, but Shadowrun is still a world ripe with street samurai, razor girls, hackers, riggers, smugglers... 
A link for all of us who ever had a shouting match with our muse: http://www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_gilbert_on_genius.html

How to set this Muse ablaze (O/Os)

When the little angel won't appear no matter how many plum blossoms you swirl:  https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=135346.msg16474321#msg16474321 (Major update 5/10/2023)

Marie Reynolds

Yep but it still a question to ask cause you do not start out with that much money in a MMO usually.  Usually you just get some basic equipment and have to build yourself up. sometimes even the beta testers only get some minor boost and most have to work there way up.

undisclosedtoyou

Quote from: cuchulainn on November 08, 2014, 04:39:45 AM
I think I'll apply do we post bios or send them to you via pm?

I haven't configured a sheet for this game yet. But if you want to start filling something out just to work out what kind of character you want to play, you're more than welcome to put something together and post it here, so you can share your concept.

[hrd

As for money, I'm going to actually address that on the character sheet. I'm thinking that all characters will start off with a set amount of money. Maybe some archytypes will start off with more, since they'd need it to counter balance their character. I was also thinking of allowing slots for those who had been beta testers. But obviously, not everyone would be able to create one.
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

TheGlyphstone

Maybe Shadowrun Online has a built-in microtransaction system, like every other game seems to these days? Having extra starting nuyen (because you assigned a higher OOC priority to Resources) is just a reflection that you spent more 'RL money' when creating your avatar.

undisclosedtoyou

Quote from: TheGlyphstone on November 08, 2014, 02:18:01 PM
Maybe Shadowrun Online has a built-in microtransaction system, like every other game seems to these days? Having extra starting nuyen (because you assigned a higher OOC priority to Resources) is just a reflection that you spent more 'RL money' when creating your avatar.

That can work.  I think there will be a starting balance that you automatically get, but players would have been able to use real currency to purchase more nuyen when they created their character.  I mean, I never buy more currency in game until after I've tried it out for a while, but I can see some people doing that.  Especially since some people would already be familiar with the Shadowrun background, and would go in assuming they'd need more.
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

undisclosedtoyou

I also want to use this stupid editable PDF character sheet I have, but I have no idea how to convert that for use on E.
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's


undisclosedtoyou

Is anyone available to help me with this character sheet?  I have most of it done, I just need help tweaking it for our games needs.
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

AndyZ

Tried watching the first ep of SAO and wasn't much of a fan, but I'll keep an eye on this.
It's all good, and it's all in fun.  Now get in the pit and try to love someone.

Ons/Offs   -  My schedule and A/As   -    My Avatars

If I've owed you a post for at least a week, poke me.

Muse

Still need help with that sheet, Uu-chan?  :) 
A link for all of us who ever had a shouting match with our muse: http://www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_gilbert_on_genius.html

How to set this Muse ablaze (O/Os)

When the little angel won't appear no matter how many plum blossoms you swirl:  https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=135346.msg16474321#msg16474321 (Major update 5/10/2023)

undisclosedtoyou

Quote from: Muse on November 08, 2014, 07:07:30 PM
Still need help with that sheet, Uu-chan?  :)

Oh yes, Muse!  Also, feel free to call me Dis.  I'll Pm you what I have so far, and if you have IM, I'll gladly add you, if you're okay with that?
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

undisclosedtoyou

#31
Alright everyone, we have a character sheet!  Feel free to post it here, if you want to share with others, and to me via PM for approval.

The code is at the bottom of the spoiler, but it's a bit hard to see.

Character Sheet

Real World Character Sheet


Name:

Age:

Gender:

Sexual Orientation:

Distinguishing Features/Marks:

Noteworthy Skills:

Personality:

Background:






Shadowrun Character Sheet


Personal Data

Name/Primary Alias:
Metatype:
Ethnicity:
Age:
Gender:
Height:
Weight:

Street Cred:
Notoriety:
Public Awareness:
Karma:
Total Karma:
Misc:

Attributes


Body:
Agility:
Reaction:
Strength:
Willpower:
Logic:
Intuition:
Charisma:
Edge:
Essence:
Magic:

Initiative:

Composure:
Judge Intentions:
Memory:
Lift/Carry:
Movement:

Physical Limit: 
Mental limit: 
Social limit:

Skills

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all skills listed

Skill Name:
Skill Name:
Skill Name:
Skill Name:

Gear

Nuyen:
Primary Lifestyle:

Gear

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all items listed.  Licences, Fake ID's, and related lifestyle things go here to.



Melee Weapons

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all weapons listed.



Ranged Weapons

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all weapons listed.





Armor

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all armour listed.




Comlink/Deck

Model:
Attack:
Sleaze:
Device Rating:
Data Processing:
Firewall:
Programs:


Vehicle

Vehicle:
Handling:
Acceleration:
Speed:
Pilot:
Body:
Armor:
Sensor:
Notes:


Augmentations

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all augmentations abilities listed.




Spells/Preparations/Rituals/Complex Forms

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all augmentations/paranormal abilities listed.

S/P/R/CF, Type/Target, Range, Duration, Drain




Contacts

You can add one of the three contact's listed below to your profile.  All contacts are low level contacts that are meant to provide Newbs with game mechanics.


  • Bartender:  Places you can find them - Any Bar/Nightclub
  • Mr. Johnson:  Places you can find them - Any fast food restaurant
  • Street Doc:  Places you can find them - Any clinic

Adept Powers or Other Abilities

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all augmentations/paranormal abilities listed.



Qualities

You can ignore all qualities that are involve personality.  Please add a small page reference or a summary to all Qualities listed.






[center][font=arial][size=18pt]Real World Character Sheet[/size][/font][/center]

[float=left][img height=300 padding=10]https://elliquiy.com/elluiki/images/0/00/BlankCharacter.png[/img][/float]

[b]Name:[/b]

[b]Age:[/b]

[b]Gender:[/b]

[b]Sexual Orientation:[/b]

[b]Distinguishing Features/Marks:[/b]

[b]Noteworthy Skills:[/b]

[b]Personality:[/b]

[b]Background:[/b]

[clearleft]
[hr]

[center][font=arial][size=18pt]Shadowrun Character Sheet[/size][/font][/center]

[float=right][img height=300 padding=10]https://elliquiy.com/elluiki/images/0/00/BlankCharacter.png[/img][/float]

[center][size=14pt][b]Personal Data[/b][/size][/center]

[b]Name/Primary Alias:[/b]
[b]Metatype:[/b]
[b]Ethnicity:[/b]
[b]Age:[/b]
[b]Gender:[/b]
[b]Height:[/b]
[b]Weight:[/b]

[b]Street Cred:[/b]
[b]Notoriety:[/b]
[b]Public Awareness:[/b]
[b]Karma:[/b]
[b]Total Karma:[/b]
[b]Misc:[/b]

[center][size=14pt][b]Attributes[/b][/size][/center]


[b]Body:[/b]
[b]Agility:[/b]
[b]Reaction:[/b]
[b]Strength:[/b]
[b]Willpower:[/b]
[b]Logic:[/b]
[b]Intuition:[/b]
[b]Charisma:[/b]
[b]Edge:[/b]
[b]Essence:[/b]
[b]Magic:[/b]

[b]Initiative:[/b]

[b]Composure:[/b]
[b]Judge Intentions:[/b]
[b]Memory:[/b]
[b]Lift/Carry:[/b]
[b]Movement:[/b]

[b]Physical Limit:[/b] 
[b]Mental limit:[/b] 
[b]Social limit:[/b]

[center][size=14pt][b]Skills[/b][/size][/center]

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all skills listed

[b]Skill Name:[/b]
[b]Skill Name:[/b]
[b]Skill Name:[/b]
[b]Skill Name:[/b]

[center][size=14pt][b]Gear[/b][/size][/center]

[b]Nuyen:[/b]
[b]Primary Lifestyle:[/b]

[left][size=12pt][b]Gear[/b][/size][/left]

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all items listed.  Licences, Fake ID's, and related lifestyle things go here to.

[list]
[li][/li]
[li][/li]
[li][/li]
[li][/li]
[/list]

[left][size=12pt][b]Melee Weapons[/b][/size][/left]

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all weapons listed.

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"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

undisclosedtoyou

I decided to stick with the general character creation rules for generating Nuyen for now. 
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

Marie Reynolds

Sounds good to me was just looking for justification in the vrmmo to start off with extra nuyen no reason to reinvent the wheel.

ReijiTabibito

This is using the chargen system for SR 5th, as presented in the book, or...sorry, I saw the word modified, and I had to ask.

AndyZ

I was talking to someone and have been convinced that if I don't like SAO, I probably won't like this.  Sorry to bother.
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undisclosedtoyou

Quote from: ReijiTabibito on November 08, 2014, 09:17:28 PM
This is using the chargen system for SR 5th, as presented in the book, or...sorry, I saw the word modified, and I had to ask.

We're using the standard character creation rules from the 5th edition. :)

Quote from: AndyZ on November 08, 2014, 09:18:31 PM
I was talking to someone and have been convinced that if I don't like SAO, I probably won't like this.  Sorry to bother.

That's too bad!  I heard great things about you, and wanted you in my game!  But maybe we'll be in a game together in the future!

Quote from: Marie Reynolds on November 08, 2014, 09:15:15 PM
Sounds good to me was just looking for justification in the vrmmo to start off with extra nuyen no reason to reinvent the wheel.

I decided to stick with the regular way of generating nuyen, because I'd have to mess with the priority chart otherwise, and I haven't read that far into the core book to understand that just yet.  I've gotten through the quick start rules book, but haven't gotten through the main core book just yet.  I just wanted this sheet to go up now so you guys would have something to work with.  We can say in game that the amount of Nuyen given to your character was randomly generated during character creation. 
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

ReijiTabibito

What sort of characters do we currently have on hand?

undisclosedtoyou

I haven't received any sheet's yet, so nothing set in cement yet.  But I know we're probably going to get several magic users.
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
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ReijiTabibito

Okay.  If we're big on the magic, then I'll go on the mundane...it's been a while since I played a transporter, I might go with that.  Is it just standard metatypes or is there a way to do SURGE in SR5th yet?

TheGlyphstone

Probably in one of the splats, but do remember Dis is brand-new to running Shadowrun and 5e in particular. The more we can restrict ourselves to the Core book, the better off everyone will be (I looked in Street Grimoire but didn't find anything really interesting).

ReijiTabibito

I'll try and do that.  I think I was planning on human anyways...is 3 still the value for 'average' stat?  Or is it different?

undisclosedtoyou

Oh, so it's here I should list the books I have.  If you all can find other 5th edition books, let me know.


  • 5th ed core rule book
  • 5th ed quick start rules
  • Run & Gun
  • Street Grimoir
  • 5th ed Shadow Spells

I'm going to read everything from cover to cover, but as of right now, I've only gotten through the quick start rules, and so keeping things to the core book, or one of the one's listed(please make a note of referencing which book, if you're using one that's not the core book), will make me very appreciative!  I If it's just something cosmetic, that doesn't require anything complicated, I'll be pretty lenient about it. 

Quote from: ReijiTabibito on November 08, 2014, 10:30:28 PM
I'll try and do that.  I think I was planning on human anyways...is 3 still the value for 'average' stat?  Or is it different?

You are correct, it's 3.
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

undisclosedtoyou

I was also wondering about how much sexual content you guys would prefer in this game.  I want there to be sexual content, but I don't have a preference about what sort goes into this.  I'd stick it in Light, but I suspect the violence might bump it out of that section.
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

ReijiTabibito

#44
Most SR games I've known have been placed by the GM in the NC: Exotic sections.  (This particular game sounds like it would use System.)  Not necessarily because the game absolutely included NC, but in case someone wanted it to.

Okay, 3 is still average, got it.

EDIT:  Just doublecheck.  For the time being, we're just using the E dice roller?  (I understand the need for accountability, but I know a few online rollers that are...less schizophrenic than E's).

undisclosedtoyou

As long as nobody here has a deep loathing of NC, I'm down for putting it in NC:Exotic system.  So, you all have until tomorrow to let me know of any issues with it, after that I'll start putting up threads.

The E dice roller seemed ideal for accountability sake, but if you know of any others, and everyone is willing to use it, than I'm down for it.  Feel free to post them here, and I'll take a look, Reiji!
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

1SAZ

Still hugely interested. I'm split between my ex-merc gun nut and my face... Hmm...

undisclosedtoyou

I feel like a teenager, your combo of nut and face made me giggle! 

Anywhooo, yeah, I'd welcome both those archetypes! 
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

undisclosedtoyou

You should use a real image, not a drawing or anime character for the real world part of your sheet, but you have more freedom of choice for the Shadowrun part.
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

1SAZ

Random question, is Run and Gun an available resource?

undisclosedtoyou

Quote from: 1SAZ on November 08, 2014, 11:47:25 PM
Random question, is Run and Gun an available resource?

I have it, so you can definitely use it for this game.  If you mean to purchase or find over the interwebz, that's a yes to. 
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

1SAZ

My gun runner just got a hell of a lot more appealing then. I'll be working on it tonight and tomorrow, but expect the proverbial embodiment of a walking armory with a stylish flair soon.

...

SOON! ;)

undisclosedtoyou

I look forward to reading it, 1SAZ! 
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Muse

So, I'm working on an aspected magician (Sorceress) who is somewhat a hybrid with combat classes, using sustained spells instead of 'ware to boost her in combat.  Anyone got a sugestion on what weapon she might use for her primary? 

Katanas are fun, but probably over done. My fencer is a diferent character.  I'm looking at things like monokinves, whip, little axes, even just boxing with shock gloves. 

Any thoguhts? 
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akirakaneda

Quote from: Muse on November 09, 2014, 12:18:43 AM
So, I'm working on an aspected magician (Sorceress) who is somewhat a hybrid with combat classes, using sustained spells instead of 'ware to boost her in combat.  Anyone got a sugestion on what weapon she might use for her primary? 

Katanas are fun, but probably over done. My fencer is a diferent character.  I'm looking at things like monokinves, whip, little axes, even just boxing with shock gloves. 

Any thoguhts? 

sometimes magicians fight with staffs which had a magic device on one extreme and capable to cut with the other, well just an opinion

ReijiTabibito

Currently doublechecking my options, but I'm thinking someone with a bit of a tech bent.  Either a decker or a driver.  Not sure which yet, that might depend on a few things.  In the meantime, a question.  How difficult is decking?

Muse

  Just saw the first episode of SAO.  I have a question.  Going ot put it in spoiler for those who haven't seen the anime yet. 

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They're not going to revoke our avatars in this game, are they?
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1SAZ

In response to Muse:

Spoiler: Click to Show/Hide
I'm guessing style wise, this will be more like GGO's avatar system. You pick a metatype and gender and then you get what you get based on random chance/set parameters.

Just my thoughts though. Could also revoke the avatar's basic appearance and you end up with your normal appearance with your metatype's extra features.

I also recommend watching Log Horizon, which offers another perspective on that question that could also work well for this game.

ReijiTabibito

Quick question for Dis.  There's a gun I want to use in the Gun H(e)aven book.  I have an online link to where you can read the book.  If I give you that link, then can I use the book?

Latooni Subota

Woo, busy weekend. Checking in from the interest/GM Recruitment thread, FINALLY. Probably won't have the time to finish up a concept and sheet today, but the perk of having a new job working for a bank means I get this Tuesday off! :D

I'll TRY and get at least a concept up asap though.
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ReijiTabibito

Tooni?  What are you planning on doing for your character?  I'm debating a Decker or a Driver, but I'm not really sure which.

Latooni Subota

Not sure yet. Probably not using any magic, and leaning towards more tech. I do like quick gunslinger and BnE types though.
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undisclosedtoyou

Quote from: ReijiTabibito on November 09, 2014, 09:11:44 AM
Currently doublechecking my options, but I'm thinking someone with a bit of a tech bent.  Either a decker or a driver.  Not sure which yet, that might depend on a few things.  In the meantime, a question.  How difficult is decking?

From what I've read, it looks to be on the same level as playing a magic user, difficulty wise.

Quote from: Muse on November 09, 2014, 10:49:35 AM
  Just saw the first episode of SAO.  I have a question.  Going ot put it in spoiler for those who haven't seen the anime yet. 

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They're not going to revoke our avatars in this game, are they?

Quote from: 1SAZ on November 09, 2014, 01:08:57 PM
In response to Muse:

Spoiler: Click to Show/Hide
I'm guessing style wise, this will be more like GGO's avatar system. You pick a metatype and gender and then you get what you get based on random chance/set parameters.

Just my thoughts though. Could also revoke the avatar's basic appearance and you end up with your normal appearance with your metatype's extra features.

I also recommend watching Log Horizon, which offers another perspective on that question that could also work well for this game.

Spoiler: Click to Show/Hide
I actually like MMO's that allow for a player to configure the way their avatar works, but I did like how it was portrayed in GGO.  In the end, the avatars are still going to look the way you want them to, so I'm just going to say that you get to create one the way you like.  And, I think I'm going to say no, your Avatars don't default to the way your character looks in their real world.

I watched the first two episodes of Log Horizon, but I really have to watch more to determine if I really like it.  So far it's plot seems to be a bit less serious than SAO.  I did like how the ninja was able to take a potion and regain her real world appearance, but I don't think I'll go that route with this game.

Quote from: ReijiTabibito on November 09, 2014, 02:43:19 PM
Quick question for Dis.  There's a gun I want to use in the Gun H(e)aven book.  I have an online link to where you can read the book.  If I give you that link, then can I use the book?

I found an online pdf.  But if you're going to use a weapon from it, all I ask is that you put a description of it, as well as it's 5th edition stats in spoiler text.

Quote from: Latooni Subota on November 09, 2014, 03:47:58 PM
Woo, busy weekend. Checking in from the interest/GM Recruitment thread, FINALLY. Probably won't have the time to finish up a concept and sheet today, but the perk of having a new job working for a bank means I get this Tuesday off! :D

I'll TRY and get at least a concept up asap though.

Woo hoo, LS, take all the time you need! 
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O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

ReijiTabibito

Quote from: undisclosedtoyou on November 09, 2014, 04:39:47 PM
From what I've read, it looks to be on the same level as playing a magic user, difficulty wise.

Okay.  I'll read over the section on decking, but if it's going to be really complicated for a 1st character then I'll stick to driving.  Probably.


Quote from: undisclosedtoyou on November 09, 2014, 04:39:47 PM
I found an online pdf.  But if you're going to use a weapon from it, all I ask is that you put a description of it, as well as it's 5th edition stats in spoiler text.

It's the Colt Agent Special.  But yeah, I'll do that.

undisclosedtoyou

It doesn't seem too complicated, and from a few people I've talked to, Deckers are well liked archetypes.  Also, I've heard they're a lot of fun, so it might be worth any extra trouble it takes to learn to play.  All I know, is that I've been hoping someone takes a Decker, because I wouldn't mind seeing one in action, plus they're very useful to have around.  But drivers are useful to, so whichever you choose, I'll appreciate!

"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

ReijiTabibito

The problem I'm seeing with a Decker is that Decks get very expensive, very quickly.  I'm not 100%, but I think you don't have to buy Programs anymore, which means that they're not absurdly expensive...

undisclosedtoyou

Well yes, but as I see it, it's an investment in fun!  but whichever you choose is fine with me!
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

ReijiTabibito

Correction, you can buy programs, and they help out quite a bit...but they're not insanely expensive anymore, and it really doesn't help you to buy a ton of them, since you can usually only use a couple at a time.

undisclosedtoyou

That's pretty helpful information!  You've played 4th edition before?
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
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Latooni Subota

I'm tentatively making a street samurai with an extreme focus on skills and breaking and entering tricks. Tentatively. I'll update you guys as details get finalized.
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undisclosedtoyou

I think someone else mentioned the possibility of making a street samurai to, but tbh, I'm perfectly okay with having more than one of the same archetype in game.  XD
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

Muse

#71
Reiji:  You could compromise and do a rigger? 

You don't need to get a super expensive deck right out of the gate.  Even for skilled starting characters, a limit of 4-5 is good for their starting skills.  (If limit bothers you dont' invest in more expensive equipment, invest in edge.) 

I think this will be J.T.'s Avatar.  (Maybe her street name iwll be Black Cherry.)

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ReijiTabibito

Quote from: undisclosedtoyou on November 09, 2014, 05:09:02 PM
That's pretty helpful information!  You've played 4th edition before?

I have.  I grew up on 3rd, but 4th/20th Anniversary is probably my favorite because it let you tailor-make your characters to a degree that's rather difficult with the Priority System.  Example.  My character's A priority is probably going to be Skills - which means I get 46 Skill Points, and 10 Skill Group Points.  That's a lot, and meant for characters that need a lot of skills like Deckers.  Here's the thing - I think it's too much.  I have little doubt that I'll be able to use up the 10 Skill Group Points, but 46 points in skills besides those?  I could downgrade Skills to Priority B, but then I drop to 36 Skill Points and 5 Skill Group Points.  Still enough for a decker (invest most if not all into Electronics Skill Group)...but just on the edge.  Right now, I'm having an internal war over whether or not Resources or Attributes is going to occupy Priority B (C is whichever one isn't B, D is Metatype, and E is Magic/Resonance, since I'm a Mundy).

Priority B in Attributes gives me 20, which lets me boost up half my Attributes to Rating 4, as opposed to Priority B, whose 16 points would mean I'd be average across the board.  However, there's a 135,000 nuyen difference between Resources Priorities B & C, which is enough to pay for a higher-level cyberdeck.  Level C would mean I'm probably picking up an Azteca 200 deck, but Level B means I could get a Novatech Navigator or even a Renraku Tsurugi if I conserve elsewhere enough.

In 20th, I could easily work around this problem by just calculating however much BP I needed for my Gear/Skills, and then going accordingly.  With the Priority System...

Marie Reynolds

Muse:Also added a bit more detail on the appearance thing and how it is addressed and mapped in the spoiler below.

Spoiler: Click to Show/Hide
Also Muse the way the gear that connects you to the game scans your body and with the second season and differing races that exist in the second season game handles  your appearance being added to the race template. Even when males select to play female characters or Females Males it still scans your appearance to add to the characters appearance.

Undisclosed: I had interest in a street Samurai but I do not have a problem with more the one there is always enough variation to be had in archetypes. Besides then I wont be the only tank in the group.

ReijiTabibito

Quote from: Muse on November 09, 2014, 05:17:44 PM
Reiji:  You could compromise and do a rigger? 

That's what I was thinking, but that doesn't solve my problem at all.  Must-have equipment for nearly any rigger is a control rig, which has exploded in cost from 20th Anniversary.  In 20th Ann, control rigs were a yes/no cyberware, cost only half an Essence Point, and were 10k.

In SR5, Control Rigs come in three different Ratings, and the lowest (Rating 1) has an Essence Cost of 1, with a nuyen cost of 40k+.  Rating 2?  2 whole points of Essence, and almost 100k nuyen.

Muse

Let me give them a gander.  Riggers are pretty cost intensive. 
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ReijiTabibito

Not in 20th they weren't!  Plus, in 20th you could take an Adept and make them a pretty decent rigger.  Not so much here.  I do suppose you have the cost of your drones/vehicles, but you could get a pretty tricked-out vehicle in 20th for just a handful of BP.

Muse

True that.  I once did a dwarf mage who kept both fly spies and watcher spirits handy. 

On the other hand, alphaware is onlly a 20% price upgrade.  For example: 
106,700NY:
   Alphaware SIMrig Rating II
   Essence Cost: 1.8
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ReijiTabibito

Alphaware was always a 20% price upgrade.  And yes, I did the same thing you did - Control Rig II, Alphaware.  Problem is, at Priority C Resources, that's 75% of my total nuyen.  Three-quarters for one thing, and I haven't even touched vehicles yet...plus, I think Riggers also need that Rigger Control Console thing, and that seems pretty pricey.

undisclosedtoyou

Quote from: Muse on November 09, 2014, 05:17:44 PM
I think this will be J.T.'s Avatar.  (Maybe her street name iwll be Black Cherry.)

https://elliquiy.com/elluiki/images/d/da/Shadowrun_elf_by_sirtiefling-d7fx87x.jpg

I lurve her appearance!

Quote from: Marie Reynolds on November 09, 2014, 05:24:18 PM
Muse:Also added a bit more detail on the appearance thing and how it is addressed and mapped in the spoiler below.

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Also Muse the way the gear that connects you to the game scans your body and with the second season and differing races that exist in the second season game handles  your appearance being added to the race template. Even when males select to play female characters or Females Males it still scans your appearance to add to the characters appearance.

Undisclosed: I had interest in a street Samurai but I do not have a problem with more the one there is always enough variation to be had in archetypes. Besides then I wont be the only tank in the group.

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Mhm, after they got out of sword art online, it seemed as if the nerve gear, all the generations, scanned your body to take elements of your physical appearance and add to your avatar.  But in the first epi of the first season, they initially created an avatar to whichever specifics they wanted.  I'm just going with that, since I don't really see a need to make people's avatars match up with their physical bodies.

Quote from: ReijiTabibito on November 09, 2014, 05:20:36 PM
I have.  I grew up on 3rd, but 4th/20th Anniversary is probably my favorite because it let you tailor-make your characters to a degree that's rather difficult with the Priority System.  Example.  My character's A priority is probably going to be Skills - which means I get 46 Skill Points, and 10 Skill Group Points.  That's a lot, and meant for characters that need a lot of skills like Deckers.  Here's the thing - I think it's too much.  I have little doubt that I'll be able to use up the 10 Skill Group Points, but 46 points in skills besides those?  I could downgrade Skills to Priority B, but then I drop to 36 Skill Points and 5 Skill Group Points.  Still enough for a decker (invest most if not all into Electronics Skill Group)...but just on the edge.  Right now, I'm having an internal war over whether or not Resources or Attributes is going to occupy Priority B (C is whichever one isn't B, D is Metatype, and E is Magic/Resonance, since I'm a Mundy).

Priority B in Attributes gives me 20, which lets me boost up half my Attributes to Rating 4, as opposed to Priority B, whose 16 points would mean I'd be average across the board.  However, there's a 135,000 nuyen difference between Resources Priorities B & C, which is enough to pay for a higher-level cyberdeck.  Level C would mean I'm probably picking up an Azteca 200 deck, but Level B means I could get a Novatech Navigator or even a Renraku Tsurugi if I conserve elsewhere enough.

In 20th, I could easily work around this problem by just calculating however much BP I needed for my Gear/Skills, and then going accordingly.  With the Priority System...

Yeah, from what I've read, people either like the differences that 5e brings, or they don't.  But either way, I'm glad to see that you're putting so much thought into your character creation.

"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

ReijiTabibito

Quote from: undisclosedtoyou on November 09, 2014, 05:55:00 PM
Yeah, from what I've read, people either like the differences that 5e brings, or they don't.  But either way, I'm glad to see that you're putting so much thought into your character creation.

Don't get me wrong, there's things I loved about all the SR systems I've tried out.  SR3 had the Pools, which were free dice you could use that replenished with every round in combat.  Problem with SR3 was that decking was basically sitting in a room running Overwatch while the rest of your team braved bullets & blood.

SR4 has an enormous amount of customization, and a fair number of exploitable loopholes - can you say Sensitive System, children - that hasn't been matched by any other addition.  Problem with that one was that if you wanted to play a Mage or a Technomancer, it got really expensive to do so, really quickly, since you had to buy your Magic Rating (Whereas in SR 3 & 5 it was provided to you), and Technomancy was especially bad due to the cost of Complex Forms.  Now, the longer you played a Technomantic character, the more absurdly powerful they became - long-game Technos could pretty much stomp anything in the Matrix flat.

SR5 dealt with a lot of the issues of the previous generations...for both good and bad.  Good is that being a Techno or a Mage isn't insanely costly at start anymore, and Deckers can now travel and help out with the team.  Bad is that they closed a lot of those juicy loopholes in SR4, and they instituted limits on how well you can succeed at a test (thus artificially inflating the need for Edge).

undisclosedtoyou

#81
I edited out the reason I put for liking the SR setting, because I put down something that's pretty common in most tabletop games, lmao.  But yeah, I'm liking what I'm reading, so far, in this edition.
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O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

Muse

Is it?  I'm used to Alphaware costing x2? 

I'm not sure about the control console but if you're gong to do a priority three resouces rigger, start at rating one and upgrade later.
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ReijiTabibito

That was back in SR3, but I'm pretty sure Catalyst changed it when they took over from FASA.

undisclosedtoyou

I'm reading the core book now, but didn't 5e change to wireless?  I'm still seeing Deckers being called Deckers, but I've seen references to them being called hackers now to.  Do we all have a preference on what they're called?
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

ReijiTabibito

20th/SR4 made the changeover from wired to wireless for computers, and SR5 preserved it.  They were called Hackers in SR4 because it did away with the iconic item of the computer-savvy runner, the cyberdeck.  SR5 brought back Decks with a vengeance, and so they're called Deckers again.

Muse

  Does anyone have hang ups about playing with a seventeen year old character? 

  (Will, of course, make an effort to ensure all associated images are 18+). 
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How to set this Muse ablaze (O/Os)

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ReijiTabibito

No.  Quick question for the more used to SR5?  How do the attributes of your Deck affect your personal attributes?  An example, the Hack on the Fly actions says the Dicepool is Hacking + Logic [Sleaze].  Interpretation, please?

undisclosedtoyou

Quote from: ReijiTabibito on November 09, 2014, 06:42:27 PM
20th/SR4 made the changeover from wired to wireless for computers, and SR5 preserved it.  They were called Hackers in SR4 because it did away with the iconic item of the computer-savvy runner, the cyberdeck.  SR5 brought back Decks with a vengeance, and so they're called Deckers again.

Yeah, I can see why there'd be a demand for Deckers to be brought back, they seem unique to the setting.

Quote from: Muse on November 09, 2014, 06:51:24 PM
  Does anyone have hang ups about playing with a seventeen year old character? 

  (Will, of course, make an effort to ensure all associated images are 18+). 

I have no qualms.  I doubt real world sentiments will last long, after everyone get's stuck in the game.
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

Muse

Jacey Talia "J.T." Kirk, portrayed by Eliana Sosco.  :) 

A link for all of us who ever had a shouting match with our muse: http://www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_gilbert_on_genius.html

How to set this Muse ablaze (O/Os)

When the little angel won't appear no matter how many plum blossoms you swirl:  https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=135346.msg16474321#msg16474321 (Major update 5/10/2023)

undisclosedtoyou

Quote from: Muse on November 09, 2014, 07:11:46 PM
Jacey Talia "J.T." Kirk, portrayed by Eliana Sosco.  :) 



I dig her look! 
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

TheGlyphstone

Quote from: undisclosedtoyou on November 09, 2014, 07:09:42 PM
Yeah, I can see why there'd be a demand for Deckers to be brought back, they seem unique to the setting.

I have no qualms.  I doubt real world sentiments will last long, after everyone get's stuck in the game.

I know I'm taking Mild Prejudice vs. Trolls, because my character thinks trolls are cheesy and only played by min-maxing munchkins. :D

Muse

Quote from: ReijiTabibito on November 09, 2014, 06:58:22 PM
No.  Quick question for the more used to SR5?  How do the attributes of your Deck affect your personal attributes?  An example, the Hack on the Fly actions says the Dicepool is Hacking + Logic [Sleaze].  Interpretation, please?

Are you familiar with the concept of limits, Reiji? 

Hacking + Logic [Sleaze] means that you take dice eaul to hacking + logic, apply all aplicable modifers, then roll.  The (normal) maxiumum number of sucesses you can benefit from is equal to the Sleeze of your cyberdeck. 

Limits turn a lot of people off on this game, but our antagonsits havethem too.  THey're easily overcome by spending a point of edge. 

Any time edge is in play on a roll your limit is negated.  If you roll seven sucesses on a dice pool of 10, and wnat to be able to use all seven of them--not just 4 (your aplicable limit) you can spend an edge point after the roll to remove the limit AND get extra dice equal to your edge.  :)
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How to set this Muse ablaze (O/Os)

When the little angel won't appear no matter how many plum blossoms you swirl:  https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=135346.msg16474321#msg16474321 (Major update 5/10/2023)

undisclosedtoyou

Quote from: TheGlyphstone on November 09, 2014, 07:16:17 PM
I know I'm taking Mild Prejudice vs. Trolls, because my character thinks trolls are cheesy and only played by min-maxing munchkins. :D

We all know your preference for the bigger the better!  ::) 

Oh wait...that's me! >>

"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

ReijiTabibito

I am.  I was thinking it was something like that, that the deck limited the potential hits on a dice roll.

Edge is one of those things that may or may not have been improved since SR4.  Personally, I like that I can have an Edge 5 character right out of the box (Human base 2, with 3 Special Attribute points for Metatype D), and not have to pay a dime for it.

1SAZ

Or you could be like me and play a troll toting around an armory. :P

undisclosedtoyou

Quote from: 1SAZ on November 09, 2014, 07:36:00 PM
Or you could be like me and play a troll toting around an armory. :P

Ooooohhhh, I want a real life armory toting troll to follow me around!
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

1SAZ

Allow me to make that a 'reality' haha

ReijiTabibito

I think Muse's little primer about how Decking works in SR5 has helped me make up my mind.  I'll be the group Decker.  I always found a bit of irony of being the computer guy hacking inside the computer game.

undisclosedtoyou

Quote from: 1SAZ on November 09, 2014, 08:18:52 PM
Allow me to make that a 'reality' haha

Awe...wait.  Does that mean you're going to troll me?!

Quote from: ReijiTabibito on November 09, 2014, 08:20:40 PM
I think Muse's little primer about how Decking works in SR5 has helped me make up my mind.  I'll be the group Decker.  I always found a bit of irony of being the computer guy hacking inside the computer game.

Excellent!  And yeah, I can see the irony in that!
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

ReijiTabibito

It helps that his explanation solved my Priority B vs Priority C crisis for me.  As well as reminding me about limits.

undisclosedtoyou

"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

Arion

Whoa... Looks like this is generating a ton of interest.  Kudos Un!

So, to make sure I've got this right, character creation uses the standard system in the book, but tweaked in regards to starting Nuyen?  If so, how is that going to work seeing as how starting Shadowrun characters are meant to be pretty well geared and equipped?

Oh, looking at making a Mage as soon as I can get my 5th ed book back from the guy I loaned it to.  I see that someone else has already rolled one up, so I might switch that to something else.  Unfortunately, with the Priority system and some of the other changes I can't remake my "from the books Jason Borne" character...

Another thing that popped into my head: if you're only looking at having three players to start with, what about introducing other players taking the parts of certain NPCs?
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undisclosedtoyou

I'll probably have more than three characters, depending on everyone's understanding that I'm a newb who needs to get her feet wet!  Patience will be a virtue here!  We are indeed, going to be using the standard character creation from the book.  And it was decided that nuyen generation will be done the normal way, by the book. 

It looks like we're getting a lot of interest in mages, if you decide to make one I won't complain, but if you go another route, I'll secretly be cheering!
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

1SAZ

Alright, so I have most of my character sheet done, just gotta hammer out his money situation. Simultaneously the best and worst part of shadowrun character creation.

undisclosedtoyou

Quote from: 1SAZ on November 09, 2014, 10:31:06 PM
Alright, so I have most of my character sheet done, just gotta hammer out his money situation. Simultaneously the best and worst part of shadowrun character creation.

Yeah, money in a SR setting can be a pain in the behind!  Funny story though, the only other time I've been in a SR game, my phys ed girl had more money than she knew what to do with...literally.  It got to the point that I was wasting it on lifestyle crap. 

I'm glad you've progressed so far though!  I got through thirty pages in the core rule book today, which doesn't seem very impressive! >.>
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

TheGlyphstone

Finished with my mage, I just need to arrange everything into the character sheet. Oh, and create a personality I suppose.

undisclosedtoyou

Quote from: TheGlyphstone on November 09, 2014, 11:19:31 PM
Finished with my mage, I just need to arrange everything into the character sheet. Oh, and create a personality I suppose.

A personality would be greatly appreciated! :P
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

TheGlyphstone

At least I only have to make one. Trying to create a player personality and a separate avatar personality that I would have to RP in layers would drive me bonkers.

1SAZ

Creating a character is 'relatively' easy in 5e. The only thing that really makes it time consuming is the stuff. And having money to spare is never a bad thing in the gun running world. I just wish I could bust out some of the crazy ultra-weapons that come with stupid strength and size. Like a minigun. Everything is better with a minigun. Oh, and a Krime Cannon. *gets all dreamy eyed*

I'm just gonna say now though, expect some Turok level bow shenanigans thanks to Run and Gun and trolls being strong as he- shut yo' mouth! ;)

undisclosedtoyou

Quote from: TheGlyphstone on November 09, 2014, 11:23:14 PM
At least I only have to make one. Trying to create a player personality and a separate avatar personality that I would have to RP in layers would drive me bonkers.

Yeah!  I mean, you're welcome to come up with a separate avatar personality, I'm sure there would be those kinds of players, but it's not necessary! 

Quote from: 1SAZ on November 09, 2014, 11:28:06 PM
Creating a character is 'relatively' easy in 5e. The only thing that really makes it time consuming is the stuff. And having money to spare is never a bad thing in the gun running world. I just wish I could bust out some of the crazy ultra-weapons that come with stupid strength and size. Like a minigun. Everything is better with a minigun. Oh, and a Krime Cannon. *gets all dreamy eyed*

I'm just gonna say now though, expect some Turok level bow shenanigans thanks to Run and Gun and trolls being strong as he- shut yo' mouth! ;)

Miniguns!  Yes, I vote to this becoming a thing your character pics up in the future!  I still haven't created my character, and I'm not entirely sure I want to.  I probably will, but I'm mainly focusing on understanding the mechanics/world at this point. 
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

1SAZ

Well, if you'd like some help making a character, I can certainly help once finished mine. :)

undisclosedtoyou

Help will be appreciated!  Everyone's been pretty understanding of my newb status, it's sort of great!  I don't know what I want to create yet, but I'll let you know when I have an idea set down.
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

TheGlyphstone

Are you sure you really want to do that? Having a DMPC adds several extra layers of complication to a game even for experienced DMs who can pull it off without a problem, and can be a quick path into schizophrenic disaster for inexperienced ones. For a brand--new DM...I really honestly would advice against it. Stick to the infinite number of NPCs you're allowed to make and portray, only create a character to actually join the party if we turn out to be grossly deficient in some key role.

undisclosedtoyou

I really hope we don't become grossly deficient, lmao.  But yeahhh, that's basically why I've been on the fence about creating one.  Focusing on story and guiding a group turns me off from actually wanting to play in it with a dedicated character.  It's not like a freeform game, where I'd jump in out of the necessity to push things forward; here I can do that with just being a DM. 

I might create one just for funsies, but never play her though.  Just to say I have one!
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

TheGlyphstone

Yeah. It's hard enough to run an entire game and all its supporting cast, plus antagonists. When you have a character of your own are are literally playing against yourself (or playing with yourself :D), the need to double-blind is incredibly prone to overcorrection in either direction, both of which can damage a game.

Stick to your supporting NPCs, and you can make as many as you want, whenever the plot or group needs that sort of person to be around.

Latooni Subota

Street Samurai: Yeah, SS's are one of (if not the) most varied archetypes around. There's an INCREDIBLE amount of customization possible, making you able to go from pansy elf fencer to giant troll with miniguns to Equilibrium. I'm leaning to somewhere between MONOBLADES and Equilibrium, but I know for sure my A priority is skills. Unlike Reiji though, my skills are gonna be well-spread through the buckets of non-techy skills. I WILL BE A CYBER NINJA!
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undisclosedtoyou

Yeahh, all that sounds overly complicated!  I'll probably just stick to DM'ing and playing NPC's.

Quote from: Latooni Subota on November 10, 2014, 12:20:33 AM
Street Samurai: Yeah, SS's are one of (if not the) most varied archetypes around. There's an INCREDIBLE amount of customization possible, making you able to go from pansy elf fencer to giant troll with miniguns to Equilibrium. I'm leaning to somewhere between MONOBLADES and Equilibrium, but I know for sure my A priority is skills. Unlike Reiji though, my skills are gonna be well-spread through the buckets of non-techy skills. I WILL BE A CYBER NINJA!

I agree, there's a lot of different ways you could take a Street Samurai, but customization is great, because having choices is great!  Ninja away!
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

TheGlyphstone

Okay, here's most of a sheet. The idea for the real-world character is a calm, almost phlegmatic electronics engineer who works as a QA consultant for high-end electronics factories. Middle-aged, Divorced with 2 kids. Plays MMOs for the escapism. Will fill in the missing bits tomorrow and the page citations I don't have.





Real World Character Sheet


Name:

Age:

Gender:

Sexual Orientation:

Distinguishing Features/Marks:

Noteworthy Skills:

Personality:

Background:






Shadowrun Character Sheet


Personal Data

Name/Primary Alias:
Metatype: Human
Ethnicity:Caucasian
Age:35
Gender:Male
Height:180cm
Weight:75kg

Street Cred:0
Notoriety:0
Public Awareness:0
Karma:0
Total Karma:48
Misc:

Attributes


Body: 3
Agility: 3
Reaction: 3
Strength: 2
Willpower: 6
Logic: 5
Intuition: 3
Charisma: 3
Edge: 3
Essence: 6
Magic: 6

Initiative: 6+1d6
Astral Initiative: 6+2d6

Composure: 9
Judge Intentions: 6
Memory: 11
Lift/Carry: 5 (30kg)
Movement: 6/12

Physical Limit:
Mental limit: 7
Social limit: 6

Condition Boxes:
Physical: 10
Stun: 11
Overflow: 3

Skills

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all skills listed

Academic - Magic Theory: 4
Academic - Magic Threats: 3
Academic - Magic Groups: 3
Street - Fences: 3
Academic - Medicine: 3

Language: English(N)

Spellcasting: 6 (Spec: Healing)
Counterspelling:6
Pistols:3 (Spec: Heavy Pistols)
Astral Combat: 5
Ritual Spellcasting: 4
Sneaking:3
First Aid: 3
Etiquette: 3
Gymnastics: 3
Enchanting Group: 1
Conjuring Group: 1

Gear

Nuyen:650
Primary Lifestyle:Low (1 month pre-paid)

Gear

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all items listed.  Licences, Fake ID's, and related lifestyle things go here to.


  • Fake SIN, Rating 2
  • Fake License for Ares Predator V, Rating 1 (tied to Rating 2 SIN)
  • Concealable Holster
  • Force 1 Power Focus
  • Force 4 Sustaining Focus (Manipulation)
  • 50 drams of reagents
  • Glasses w/ Low-Light Vision, Flare Compensation, Smartlink, Image Link

Melee Weapons


Ranged Weapons

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all weapons listed.



  • Ares Predator V - Acc 5/7, 8P, -1 AP, SA, RC-, 15(c), Av 5R
  • 500 rounds of normal ammo


Armor

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all armour listed.


  • Armor Jacket w/ Helmet (AR 14, Av 2

Comlink/Deck

Model: Renraku Sensei
Attack:
Sleaze:
Device Rating: 3
Data Processing:
Firewall:
Programs:


Spells/Preparations/Rituals/Complex Forms

Tradition: Hermetic Mage (Logic+Willpower)
Initiation: Grade 1

Metamagics:

  • Spell Shaping


  • Acid Stream - Combat, Phys, LOS, Phys, Instant, F-3, p284
  • Stunbolt - Combat, Mana, LOS, Stun, Instant, F-3, p284
  • Ball Lightning - Combat, Phys, LOS, Phys(A), Instant, F-1, p284
  • Heal - Health, Mana, Touch, Perm, F-4, p288
  • Increased Reflexes - Health, Mana, Touch, Sustain, F, p288
  • Improved Invisibility - Illusion, Phys, LOS, Sustain, F-1, p291
  • Silence - Illusion, Phys, LOS, Sustain, F-1, p291
  • Armor - Manipulation, Phys, LOS, Sustain, F-2, p292
  • Control Thoughts - Manipulation, Mana, LOS, Sustain, F-1, p293
  • Ice Sheet - Manipulation, Phys, LOS, Sustain, F, p293

Mentor Spirit: Dragonslayer
+2 Etiquette tests
+2 on Combat spell tests
-1 penalty to pools if you break a promise


Contacts


    Street Doc - Connections 2, Loyalty 2
    Talismonger - Connections 3, Loyalty 2

Qualities

You can ignore all qualities that are involve personality.  Please add a small page reference or a summary to all Qualities listed.


  • Focused Concentration 4 p74)
  • Mentor Spirit (Dragonslayer) p76
  • Moderate Allergy (Gold) p78
  • Incompetent (Close Combat) p81
  • Simsense Vertigo p83
  • Uncommon Bias (Trolls) p82




Priorities
Magic A
Attributes B
Skills C
Resources D
Metatype E

Karma Spent:
Base 25
+23 from Negative Qualities
-21 from Positive Qualities
-14 from Bonded Foci
-13 from Grade 1 Initiation

Spent Resources (50,000 initial):
Ares Predator V = 725N
Concealable Holster = 150N
500x normal ammo = 1000N
Armor Jacket = 1000N
Helmet = 100N
Renraku Sensei Comlink = 1000N
Fake Sin Rating 2 = 5000N
Glasses Capacity 4 = 400N
-Low-light Vision = 500N
-Flare Compensate = 250N
-Image Link = 25N
-Smartlink = 2000N

Rating 1 Power Focus = 18,000
Rating 4 Spell Focus (Manipulation, Sustaining) = 16,000
50 Drams of reagents = 1000N
1 month Low Lifestyle = 2000N
Fake License Rating 1 = 200N (Gun, Fake SIN 1)

650N remaining

Muse

Does anyone have acess to the erata? 

I was going to play an aspectd mage (sorceress), but it looks like aspected mages don't get any free spells.  Is that accurate? 
A link for all of us who ever had a shouting match with our muse: http://www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_gilbert_on_genius.html

How to set this Muse ablaze (O/Os)

When the little angel won't appear no matter how many plum blossoms you swirl:  https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=135346.msg16474321#msg16474321 (Major update 5/10/2023)

undisclosedtoyou

Quote from: TheGlyphstone on November 10, 2014, 03:32:17 AM
Spoiler: Click to Show/Hide
Okay, here's most of a sheet. The idea for the real-world character is a calm, almost phlegmatic electronics engineer who works as a QA consultant for high-end electronics factories. Middle-aged, Divorced with 2 kids. Plays MMOs for the escapism. Will fill in the missing bits tomorrow and the page citations I don't have.





Real World Character Sheet


Name:

Age:

Gender:

Sexual Orientation:

Distinguishing Features/Marks:

Noteworthy Skills:

Personality:

Background:






Shadowrun Character Sheet


Personal Data

Name/Primary Alias:
Metatype: Human
Ethnicity:Caucasian
Age:35
Gender:Male
Height:180cm
Weight:75kg

Street Cred:0
Notoriety:0
Public Awareness:0
Karma:0
Total Karma:48
Misc:

Attributes


Body: 3
Agility: 3
Reaction: 3
Strength: 2
Willpower: 6
Logic: 5
Intuition: 3
Charisma: 3
Edge: 3
Essence: 6
Magic: 6

Initiative: 6+1d6
Astral Initiative: 6+2d6

Composure: 9
Judge Intentions: 6
Memory: 11
Lift/Carry: 5 (30kg)
Movement: 6/12

Physical Limit:
Mental limit: 7
Social limit: 6

Condition Boxes:
Physical: 10
Stun: 11
Overflow: 3

Skills

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all skills listed

Academic - Magic Theory: 4
Academic - Magic Threats: 3
Academic - Magic Groups: 3
Street - Fences: 3
Academic - Medicine: 3

Language: English(N)

Spellcasting: 6 (Spec: Healing)
Counterspelling:6
Pistols:3 (Spec: Heavy Pistols)
Astral Combat: 5
Ritual Spellcasting: 4
Sneaking:3
First Aid: 3
Etiquette: 3
Gymnastics: 3
Enchanting Group: 1
Conjuring Group: 1

Gear

Nuyen:650
Primary Lifestyle:Low (1 month pre-paid)

Gear

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all items listed.  Licences, Fake ID's, and related lifestyle things go here to.


  • Fake SIN, Rating 2
  • Fake License for Ares Predator V, Rating 1 (tied to Rating 2 SIN)
  • Concealable Holster
  • Force 1 Power Focus
  • Force 4 Sustaining Focus (Manipulation)
  • 50 drams of reagents
  • Glasses w/ Low-Light Vision, Flare Compensation, Smartlink, Image Link

Melee Weapons


Ranged Weapons

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all weapons listed.



  • Ares Predator V - Acc 5/7, 8P, -1 AP, SA, RC-, 15(c), Av 5R
  • 500 rounds of normal ammo


Armor

Please add a small page reference or a summary to all armour listed.


  • Armor Jacket w/ Helmet (AR 14, Av 2

Comlink/Deck

Model: Renraku Sensei
Attack:
Sleaze:
Device Rating: 3
Data Processing:
Firewall:
Programs:


Spells/Preparations/Rituals/Complex Forms

Tradition: Hermetic Mage (Logic+Willpower)
Initiation: Grade 1

Metamagics:

  • Spell Shaping


  • Acid Stream - Combat, Phys, LOS, Phys, Instant, F-3, p284
  • Stunbolt - Combat, Mana, LOS, Stun, Instant, F-3, p284
  • Ball Lightning - Combat, Phys, LOS, Phys(A), Instant, F-1, p284
  • Heal - Health, Mana, Touch, Perm, F-4, p288
  • Increased Reflexes - Health, Mana, Touch, Sustain, F, p288
  • Improved Invisibility - Illusion, Phys, LOS, Sustain, F-1, p291
  • Silence - Illusion, Phys, LOS, Sustain, F-1, p291
  • Armor - Manipulation, Phys, LOS, Sustain, F-2, p292
  • Control Thoughts - Manipulation, Mana, LOS, Sustain, F-1, p293
  • Ice Sheet - Manipulation, Phys, LOS, Sustain, F, p293

Mentor Spirit: Dragonslayer
+2 Etiquette tests
+2 on Combat spell tests
-1 penalty to pools if you break a promise


Contacts


    Street Doc - Connections 2, Loyalty 2
    Talismonger - Connections 3, Loyalty 2

Qualities

You can ignore all qualities that are involve personality.  Please add a small page reference or a summary to all Qualities listed.


  • Focused Concentration 4 p74)
  • Mentor Spirit (Dragonslayer) p76
  • Moderate Allergy (Gold) p78
  • Incompetent (Close Combat) p81
  • Simsense Vertigo p83
  • Uncommon Bias (Trolls) p82




Priorities
Magic A
Attributes B
Skills C
Resources D
Metatype E

Karma Spent:
Base 25
+23 from Negative Qualities
-21 from Positive Qualities
-14 from Bonded Foci
-13 from Grade 1 Initiation

Spent Resources (50,000 initial):
Ares Predator V = 725N
Concealable Holster = 150N
500x normal ammo = 1000N
Armor Jacket = 1000N
Helmet = 100N
Renraku Sensei Comlink = 1000N
Fake Sin Rating 2 = 5000N
Glasses Capacity 4 = 400N
-Low-light Vision = 500N
-Flare Compensate = 250N
-Image Link = 25N
-Smartlink = 2000N

Rating 1 Power Focus = 18,000
Rating 4 Spell Focus (Manipulation, Sustaining) = 16,000
50 Drams of reagents = 1000N
1 month Low Lifestyle = 2000N
Fake License Rating 1 = 200N (Gun, Fake SIN 1)

650N remaining

I PM'ed you!

Quote from: Muse on November 10, 2014, 04:55:25 AM
Does anyone have acess to the erata? 

I was going to play an aspectd mage (sorceress), but it looks like aspected mages don't get any free spells.  Is that accurate? 

I'm going to PM you!
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

Lockepick

Hey there! Voicing some interest if there is still room!

Is there any chance I could get an updated tally of what people are/aren't playing? I kind of got lost in the 5 pages of what concepts people were/weren't doing!
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ReijiTabibito

I called a Decker, but there's always room for more techy types.


Cuchulainn


undisclosedtoyou

Quote from: lockepick on November 10, 2014, 03:59:44 PM
Hey there! Voicing some interest if there is still room!

Is there any chance I could get an updated tally of what people are/aren't playing? I kind of got lost in the 5 pages of what concepts people were/weren't doing!

Let's see, we've got:

A Decker
Street Samurai
Aspectd Mage (sorceress)
Gun Runner(A walking armory!)
(2)Mage
Street Shaman(Woohoo Cuchulainn!)

"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

Lockepick

Did anybody else plan on going Face -- or can I put my quarter on that machine?
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undisclosedtoyou

I haven't seen anyone put interest in creating a face character.  So go right ahead!
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

Lockepick

I think I did that thing where I see a game that looks interesting, and see 5 pages of reply -- and I panic and post interest before really reading things through. I foolishly missed a few key details, so as interesting as the game sounds, I'm going to withdraw my interest and concept. Apologies for misleading! Best of luck to everybody!
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undisclosedtoyou

Quote from: lockepick on November 10, 2014, 05:52:43 PM
I think I did that thing where I see a game that looks interesting, and see 5 pages of reply -- and I panic and post interest before really reading things through. I foolishly missed a few key details, so as interesting as the game sounds, I'm going to withdraw my interest and concept. Apologies for misleading! Best of luck to everybody!

Lol, that's okay! 
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

ReijiTabibito

Question for the Clan.  Need a bit of a pointer on Skills.  Skill Priority A (my choice) gives me 10 Skill Group Points.  I'm planning on investing those into three categories - Electronics (Decker, need it, minimum value 4, probably higher), Influence (always a good set to have), and Biotech (I had thought about Engineering, but Biotech seemed like an odd choice, so I went with it).

Thoughts on distribution for the 10 points?

undisclosedtoyou

I found Errata for free at Drivethru RPG, but I'm not sure if it's an actual copy or if it's say, a sample.  The comments say the file on offer is 3 pages, is that consistant to what you all have?

http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/126104/Shadowrun-Fifth-Edition-Core-Rulebook-Errata
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

Muse

Reiji, if one of those skills is a skill you intend to dabble in, you can guy it for--I tihnk--5 of your starting karma, freeing up base points for other things 

It's bee a bit so I could be wrong. 
A link for all of us who ever had a shouting match with our muse: http://www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_gilbert_on_genius.html

How to set this Muse ablaze (O/Os)

When the little angel won't appear no matter how many plum blossoms you swirl:  https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=135346.msg16474321#msg16474321 (Major update 5/10/2023)

ReijiTabibito

No, you've got it.  5 BP for a base skill group.  So, what're you suggesting, that I split my 10 points between Electronics & Influence? That'd either mean a level 6 Electronics and level 4 Influence, or Level 5 in each...

Lockepick

I'm an idiot and realized I had once again read something wrong... working on a Magical Adept Face... sorry for being so wishy washy.
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Muse

:)  That would make you quite influencial.  :) 

You're doing a decker, right?  I'd go 6 electronics. 
A link for all of us who ever had a shouting match with our muse: http://www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_gilbert_on_genius.html

How to set this Muse ablaze (O/Os)

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ReijiTabibito

Can you max out skill groups like you can regular skills, though?  In SR4, skill groups were capped at a rating of 4...

undisclosedtoyou

Quote from: lockepick on November 10, 2014, 07:05:13 PM
I'm an idiot and realized I had once again read something wrong... working on a Magical Adept Face... sorry for being so wishy washy.

Lol, LP!  It's okay, I don't think you're wishy washy!
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

ReijiTabibito

Question.  I'm looking over the gear stuff in R&G...I'm interested in the Ballistic Mask, and the description says it has a metric ton of custom looks, but they never give a price for that...is that just built into the regular cost, then?

1SAZ

Well Reiji played Payday...

As for the cost, it doubles the cost. If you look at the stat block, customized is +150NY to it's base 150.

ReijiTabibito

Payday?  No, no.  I watch Arrow.  Or Teen Titans, back in the day.  Or Arkham Origins...

...do you see where I'm going with this?

undisclosedtoyou

"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

Lockepick

#142
Spoilered because it's huge! Still have some finishing touches to do: Spend Remaining Karma; Names/Details on Contacts.

Hope you don't mind I tweaked your lists into tables. Thought it looked a little neater! I feel like my backstory and personality are weak, but I'm also not sure how relevant they'll be!
Human Mystic Adept Face
Real World Character Sheet


Name: Hunter Gleason

Age: 17

Gender: Male

Sexual Orientation: Homosexual (Submissive Bottom)

Distinguishing Features/Marks: Laid back clothing

Noteworthy Skills: Strong math background; Interpersonal Skills; Analytical Mind.

Personality: Hunter originally joined MMOs as a social event. He played the games looking forward to working with groups of people even if the content didn't actually enforce it. He came to Shadowrun Online because it was a system that enforced a team dynamic. Once it was clear that players were locked into the game, it created a lot more risk to an already 'deadly' system. More than ever, Hunter respects the risks, and tries to plan carefully to avoid combat and keep Player's safe; trying to unite players towards the common goal of 'beating the game' and getting out.

Background: Hunter's father worked from home as an Engineer. His job and personal interests made him an 'early adopter' for technology, even if he didn't have the mindset to really learn or understand the new piece. Hunter grew up with the technology around him. When school became difficult for somebody who favored 'nerdy' pursuits, he found more understanding people online. He didn't cloister in like some might, managing to maintain a balance of social graces, self confidence, and book smarts through high school.






Shadowrun Character Sheet


Personal Data

Name/Primary Alias: Skald
Metatype: Human
Ethnicity: Caucasian
Age: 22
Gender: Male
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 145 lbs

Street Cred: 0
Notoriety: 2
Public Awareness:
Karma: (Chargen)
Total Karma: 0
Misc:

Attributes

Body: 2
Agility: 2
Reaction: 2
Strength: 2
Willpower: 4
Logic: 3
Intuition: 3
Charisma: 6
Edge: 5
Essence: 6
Magic: 6
Initiation Grade: 1

Initiative: 5 + 1d6

Composure: 10
Judge Intentions: 9
Memory: 7
Lift/Carry: 4
Movement: 4 / 8

Physical Limit: 3
Mental limit: 5
Social limit: 11
Astral Limit: 11

Skills

Skill Name:RTGATTPool||Skill Name:RTGATTPool
Animal Handling:06 (CHA)5||Impersonation:56 (CHA)11
Archery:02 (AGI)1||Instruction:06 (CHA)5
Armorer:03 (LOG)2||Intimidation:46 (CHA)10
Assensing:03 (INT)XX||Leadership:56 (CHA)11
Automatics:02 (AGI)1||Longarms:02 (AGI)1
Blades:02 (AGI)1||Navigation:03 (INT)2
Clubs:02 (AGI)1||Negotiation:5+16 (CHA)12
Computer:03 (LOG)2||Perception:43 (INT)7
Con:6+46 (CHA)16||Performance:16 (CHA)7
+- Fast Talk:6+66 (CHA)18||Pilot Ground:02 (REA)1
Cybercombat:03 (LOG)2||Pilot Water:02 (REA)1
Demolitions:03 (LOG)2||Pistols:02 (AGI)1
Disguise:53 (INT)8||Running:02 (STR)1
Diving:02 (BOD)1||Sneaking:42 (AGI)6
Escape Artist:02 (AGI)1||Spellcasting:66 (MAG)12
Etiquette:56 (CHA)11|| +- Illusion:6+26 (CHA)14
First Aid:03 (LOG)XX||Summoning:56 (MAG)11
Forgery:03 (LOG)2||Survival:04 (WIL)3
Free-Fall:02 (BOD)1||Swimming:02 (STR)1
Gunnery:02 (AGI)1||Throwing Weapons:02 (AGI)1
Gymnastics:42 (AGI)6||Tracking:03 (INT)2
Hacking:03 (LOG)2||Unarmed Combat:02 (AGI)1
Heavy Weapons:02 (AGI)1||

Gear

Nuyen: =Y= 50
Primary Lifestyle: Low, 1 Month

Gear

R4 Fake SIN"Anthony Affluent"
Sony EmperorCore 438; R2 Commlink
Meta LinkCore 438; R1 Commlink
TrodesCore 439
Subvocal MicCore 439
Trauma Slap PatchCore 451; if Wireless, auto stabilize
R3 ContactsCore 443; Thermographic Vision, Low Light, Image Link
10x Plastic RestraintsCore 447
100x ReagentsCore 316

Melee Weapons

N/A

Ranged Weapons

N/A

Armor


Lined CoatCore 437; Armor: 9; Capacity: 9/9

Comlink/Deck

Model:
Attack:
Sleaze:
Device Rating:
Data Processing:
Firewall:
Programs:


Vehicle

Vehicle:
Handling:
Acceleration:
Speed:
Pilot:
Body:
Armor:
Sensor:
Notes:


Augmentations

N/A

Spells/Preparations/Rituals/Complex Forms

Mentor Spirit: Raven
Advantage: +2 to Con Tests; +2 to Manipulation Spells
Disadvantage: Charisma + Willpower (3) Test to resist exploiting someone's misfortune or pulling a clever trick.


Metamagic:Details
Metamagic:Details


Spell:TypeDrainMisc
StunboltCombatF-3Core 284; LOS, Mana
Analyze TruthDetectionF-2Core 286; Touch, Mana
Mind ProbeDetectionFCore 287; Touch, Mana
HealHealthF-3Core 288; Touch, Mana
Increase CHAHealthF-4Core 288; Touch, Physical
Chaotic WorldIllusionFCore 290; LOS (A), Physical
Opium DenIllusionF-1SG 111; LOS (A), Mana
Improved InvisibilityIllusionF-1Core 291; LOS, Physical
Physical MaskIllusionF-1Core 291; Touch, Physical
Trid PhantasmIllusionFCore 291; LOS (A), Physical
Control ThoughtsManip.F-1Core 293; LOS, Mana; Sustain
InfluenceManip.F-1Core 293; LOS, Mana; Perm.

Contacts


NameArchetypeCONLOYMisc
NameFixer43--
NameTalismonger23Misc
NameBeat Cop22Misc
NameShark Lawyer22Misc
NameSpider11Misc

Adept Powers


NameRatingCostMisc
KinesicsR61.50Core 310; +1/R to resist social
LinguisticsR10.25SG 172; Learn languages
Commanding VoiceR30.75SG 170; +1/R to opposed Intim/Leader; plant suggestions. Can effect (CHA) Targets, -1 for each additional
Voice ControlR31.50Core 311; Mimic voices, +1 Limit/R
Combat SenseR10.50Core 309; +1 Defense/R, always gain Perception vs Surprise
Improved Ability (Con)R21.00Core 309; +1/R
Improved Ability (Nego)R10.50Core 309; +1/R
Power Points:6.0 / 6.0

Qualities


NameCostMisc
Mentor Spirit-5Core 76; See Spells
Insomnia (Partial)+10Core 81; WIL+INT (4) or regain Stun in half time
Addiction (Mild)+4Core 77; Sleeping Pills, 1/month, Withdrawal test or -2
Incompetant+5Core 81; First Aid, Can't attempt checks
Unsteady Hands+7Core 87; BOD+AGI (4) after stress or -2 to AGI tests

Priority System:
Metatype: D
Attributes: C
Magic: A
Skills: B
Nuyen: E

Ledge:
Base (+25)
Quality Net (+20)
Power Points (-12)
Nuyen (-6) for 12,000
Spell x2 (-10)
"Beat Cop" Contact (-4)
Initiation Grade 1 (-13)


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undisclosedtoyou

"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

Cuchulainn

Hmm can't decide between an elf and an ork

Muse

  Be diferent!  Play an orc!  (Or a dwarf!) 
A link for all of us who ever had a shouting match with our muse: http://www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_gilbert_on_genius.html

How to set this Muse ablaze (O/Os)

When the little angel won't appear no matter how many plum blossoms you swirl:  https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=135346.msg16474321#msg16474321 (Major update 5/10/2023)

Muse

A link for all of us who ever had a shouting match with our muse: http://www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_gilbert_on_genius.html

How to set this Muse ablaze (O/Os)

When the little angel won't appear no matter how many plum blossoms you swirl:  https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=135346.msg16474321#msg16474321 (Major update 5/10/2023)

undisclosedtoyou

Quote from: cuchulainn on November 11, 2014, 03:34:26 AM
Hmm can't decide between an elf and an ork

Quote from: Muse on November 11, 2014, 05:59:18 AM
  Be diferent!  Play an orc!  (Or a dwarf!)

Different is a great suggestion!
Quote from: Muse on November 11, 2014, 11:30:39 AM
  I think  J.T. may be ready. 

Oh woot! I've been looking forward to reading her!
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

Latooni Subota



Guess who took that distinctive flaw?! I should have everything done in a few hours, after I meet up with my mother for lunch.
ONs and OFFs be here: https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=64984.0

If I'm needed to post somewhere, PLEASE PM me about it. Sometimes I lose track of threads and need to be reminded about things.

ReijiTabibito

A request for a reminder.  You can't take any Qualities, negative or positive, that revolve around personality, right?

undisclosedtoyou

Quote from: Latooni Subota on November 11, 2014, 01:02:58 PM


Guess who took that distinctive flaw?! I should have everything done in a few hours, after I meet up with my mother for lunch.

Holy crap I want that hoodie, like right now!  And you're awesome LS!

Quote from: ReijiTabibito on November 11, 2014, 01:32:34 PM
A request for a reminder.  You can't take any Qualities, negative or positive, that revolve around personality, right?

Well, it's more like this, personality qualities are sort of useless, since you're SR character doesn't have their own personality, it has the same one that their "real world" counterpart would have.  So you can give your person a personality quality, but if your character in the real world doesn't share that quality, than your in game character ain't gonna have it either.  Of course, there are those people who like to play a role, and will probably keep playing it, once the reality of their situation comes to light(It'll be a bit weird though), but that's more acting than anything else.  You might as well use what points you have investing in something more useful.

I hope that makes sense.
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

ReijiTabibito

#151
Well, I only mention it because then that can preclude people taking things like the Code of Honor (unless you use the Warrior's Code or Assassin's Creed) or the Prejudiced negative Qualities.  I wasn't necessarily thinking hard about either, but they had crossed my mind.

Though, a question.  Is the SAO concept of 'Beaters' going to be present in the game?

EDIT: Can someone tell me how a Corporate Limited SIN is worse than a Criminal one?

undisclosedtoyou

I'm gonna give a bit of leeway on this, because what if your character really does have a very strict sense of honor, than it would sort of fit.  Prejudice is personal choice, because your character could go into the game hating one archetype for any reason, aesthetics would be a big one!  So I'm not really banning you from spending points in personality qualities, but put thought into it.  If you're "Real world" persona isn't a smooth talker, they're not going to be a smooth talker in game, and that's just a realistic limit. 

I'm allowing players to create characters that used to be beta testers, the level of proficiency is up you. 
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

Latooni Subota

#153
I should've asked first, but I was going into it with the idea of Miss Fox being a beta tester. Not a Kirito-tier god-queen expert, but still. Her whole shtick is doing things that other people wouldn't normally choose considering the setting and mechanics, so she dumped her priorities and points into attributes and skills, and got ZERO cybernetics and magic. "I'm gonna go into this hardmode, and see if I want to upgrade later. Starting with kung-fu cyberlegs made the beta a bit too easy I think . ."

She's going to be sorely unhappy at this choice, once she realizes what's up with the game.

Edit: Yeah, the hoodie is her distinctive style. Her Goggles piece of equipment is actually the hood itself. The eyes are lenses complete with vision modes and a smartlink which she pulls the wires down through the sleeves. The sheer freedom of design and variety of outfits is mind-boggling in this game, huh? :P

FASHION SOULS HERE WE COME!
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If I'm needed to post somewhere, PLEASE PM me about it. Sometimes I lose track of threads and need to be reminded about things.

ReijiTabibito

I'll keep that in mind.  As for Beta Testers, if the game is an MMO, and the SAO concept of a Beater existed, then isn't it possible for a player/character to carry a prejudice against Beaters?  We saw that more than once with Kirito in SAO...

undisclosedtoyou

I like that!  Of course, I almost always like it when a player chooses to go down a hard road; it makes for more interesting reading.  You're good with making her a beta tester.  I want a few players to create characters that were either in beta or went into the game knowing a shit load about the SR world.  Because we do have a few players who aren't as familiar with the setting, so it's nice to give them the option of asking someone for clarification in game, without having to bluff their way through it.

Quote from: ReijiTabibito on November 11, 2014, 03:25:34 PM
I'll keep that in mind.  As for Beta Testers, if the game is an MMO, and the SAO concept of a Beater existed, then isn't it possible for a player/character to carry a prejudice against Beaters?  We saw that more than once with Kirito in SAO...

That's completely possible, and yes, it's going to be a thing in game.  If you're playing a player who was in beta, you best keep that to yourself, or expect a lot of suspicion and even out right hostility.
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

undisclosedtoyou

Quote from: Latooni Subota on November 11, 2014, 03:20:39 PM
Edit: Yeah, the hoodie is her distinctive style. Her Goggles piece of equipment is actually the hood itself. The eyes are lenses complete with vision modes and a smartlink which she pulls the wires down through the sleeves. The sheer freedom of design and variety of outfits is mind-boggling in this game, huh? :P

FASHION SOULS HERE WE COME!

Yes!  All of the fashion!
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

ReijiTabibito

Question, then.  If we can do that, could it be possible for there to be someone who existed inbetween - someone who knows the tabletop games but wasn't a part of the beta?

undisclosedtoyou

Quote from: ReijiTabibito on November 11, 2014, 03:32:15 PM
Question, then.  If we can do that, could it be possible for there to be someone who existed inbetween - someone who knows the tabletop games but wasn't a part of the beta?

Yes.  The "Real world" is just like ours, except about ten years in the future.  Shadowrun is a tabletop game that is well established.
"Not all who wander are aimless.  Especially not those who seek truth beyond tradition, beyond definition, beyond the image."
O/O's ~ A/A's ~ Avi's

TheGlyphstone

Quote from: ReijiTabibito on November 11, 2014, 02:18:59 PM


EDIT: Can someone tell me how a Corporate Limited SIN is worse than a Criminal one?

Think of it as the difference between being a real-life prison inmate and being a real-life crooked ex-cop in prison. You're not just the enemy of the system, but you're a former representative and/or enforcer of the system, so the criminals hate you just as much or more than the authorities. Does that help?

ReijiTabibito

Except this isn't a prison, and you're required to broadcast your Criminal SIN at all times, not so much with the Corporate Limited...plus, there's the whole law enforcement harassment angle.

TheGlyphstone

Quote from: ReijiTabibito on November 11, 2014, 03:43:28 PM
Except this isn't a prison, and you're required to broadcast your Criminal SIN at all times, not so much with the Corporate Limited...plus, there's the whole law enforcement harassment angle.

The Shadowrunning world is pretty much the definition of a criminal-oriented society - aka Prison Culture. There doesn't have to be physical walls when most of the people you associate with on a regular basis are also criminals or low-society rejects. As for being required to broadcast your Criminal SIN - you make your living breaking and entering, robbing, and occasionally murdering people, failing to show your ID is just icing on the felonious cake here. If you don't broadcast that SIN, you're indistinguishable from a SINless person unless you get caught. That's why it is a drawback, because you choose between the social stigma or the extra-hard hammer if you screw up a mission.

Remember this is a game, ultimately, about being criminals. Being seen as one of 'them' on the streets is a lot riskier than being one of 'us', even if 'us' consists of law-breakers.

Though I did make a mistake initially - a Corporate Limited SIN isn't a crooked ex-cop, that is the equivalent of a Corporate Born SIN (the 25-point). So I made a bad evaluation there...Limited SIN is more like, I dunno, being the file clerk in a police station; technically gainful employment, but you're at risk from both ends since you regularly pal around with criminals and other undesirables.

undisclosedtoyou

Alrighty Shadowrunners, we've got an OOC - Chatter thread!

Because we've got 7 pages going on this sucker now, and I don't foresee anyone else showing interest!  Lol.
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Arion

Just got my 5th ed book back, going to work up three characters and then choose from them.  Kinda have an idea for a Gunslinger Adept, couple of others that might work out.

Hope to see you in the Sprawl, chummers!
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undisclosedtoyou

Awesome!  I look forward to seeing what you come up with!
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