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Started by sleepingferret, March 26, 2014, 06:20:05 PM

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The Premise:

I'd like to run a story/game focusing on Menzoberranzan (aka the infamous City of Spiders), with specific focus on the drow Academy in the city.  Players may be students or some players may play masters, specific key Forgotten Realms personalities from the city will be posted up for players, if they wish to play them.  For the most part said characters will be masters or key students during the era of the story which would help move things along.

The story will be starting in 1300 DR, so 3 years after Drizzt Do'Urden's birth.  Depending on the game length and such, players may or may not see him as a student, and the key events of "Homeland", may or may not affect our story.  However, with the story taking place during this era, this means that the legendary Zaknafein Do'Urden will be around the city, and House Do'Urden will be in its time of glory.

Players may create characters from any of the various noble Houses within the city or may create a character from one of the lower "unknown" Houses, as all drow of the city attend the Academy.  Again players will mostly be students of the Academy, but we shall need some to play masters as well.

I for example, as well as being the lead GM, shall be playing Gromph Baerne, the city's Archmage and a master and a member of the council that was in charge of heading Sorcere, the school of mages of the Academy.

I will be putting together any specific custom rules, such as allowed or not source-books, and such once I have a better idea of interest.  Again this will be more focusing on character stories and Academy itself, the many years every drow spends to learn their "trade", along with the ways of Lolth.

So will your character be another "rogue" and try to escape the ways of Lolth?  And if so why...and how?  Or will you fit in just fine and enjoy the mass orgy at graduation?  And what happens in between then and the time you walk up the steps of Tier Breche and enter the doors of either Sorcere, Arach-Tinilith, or Melee-Magthere?

EDIT: Please read through the thread for some Q&A, between myself and currently interested parties.  Student character slots are CLOSED for now.  We still have 1 instructor spot (for a female character that is a cleric of Lolth) and if someone has knowledge of the setting and would like to play Triel Baerne, please send me a PM.

EDIT: System Play Rules Posted Friday 4/4 @ approx. 12:40 pm PST/2:40 pm CST/3:40 EST; Includes Skill Checks and Combat Rolling

EDIT: Character Creation Rules Edited AND Finalized 3/30 2:45 AM PST/4:45 AM CST/5:45 AM EST


Character List

Matron Mistress Triel Baerne - played by ?
Archmage Gromph Baerne - played by Sleepingferret

Master ? , instructor at Sorcere - played by ?
Master Taleeryn Symryvvin, instructor at Melee-Magthere - played by Zaer Darkwail
Mistress ?  , Priestess of Lolth and instructor at Arach-Tinilith - played by Foxy Oni (DM Note: awaiting player turn in)

Alonia Duskryn - played by Ghostwheel (DM Note: no Myth-Weaver/Plot-Hook Sheet turned in, character reviewed)
Haelen Del'Armgo (Wizard {Conjurer} 3) - played by Countdown0
Kukona Odran (Divine Bard 1/Wilder 2) - played by Foxy Oni (DM Note: no Myth-Weaver/Plot-Hook Sheet turned in, character reviewed)
Zek'Drol Shobalar (Hexblade 1/Barbarian 2) - played by Kdyami
Jedex Xolarin (Swashbuckler 3) - played by Muse
Jalynfein Freth (Barbarian 1/Secondary Racial Template +2) - played by Snake
Ameesril  Xorlarrin (Cleric 2/Warlock 1) - played by Zaer Darkwail (DM Note: character under final review)
?Xullim? (Warlock 3) - played by Anon315 (DM Note: awaiting player final edits/character under review)
EtheIzz'Min (Rogue 3) - played by RubySlippers (DM Note: no Myth-Weaver/Plot-Hook Sheet turned in, character reviewed)

Jazerat Fey-Branche (Rogue 1/Swashbuckler 1/Swordsage 1) - played by Blinkin (DM Note: no Myth-Weaver/Plot-Hook Sheet turned in, character reviewed; Player Status on hold)

*All Myth-Weaver/Plot-Hook character sheets that do not have DM Notes have been reviewed.
*At least one Master/Mistress role is open for each of the schools.

General Game Rules, Custom Rules, and Special Notes

DM: Sleepingferret
Co-DM: Ghostwheel

Game Rules:  Rule interpretations are the Dungeon Master's responsibility.  He and his Co-DM may discuss any disagreements from players but any final rulings from the DM is "law".  This is meant to keep the story going, as I'm more interested in having a good role playing experience than spending everyone's time dusting off their rulebooks and reading. 

Player versus Player Combat: Is allowed, but never results in unintentional death. Instead if someone would be killed in the heat of battle, they are reduced to -1 and stable, after which the other combatant can coup-d-grace them.  Intentional death effects such as disintegrate, finger of death, etc. or just plain announced intentional "assassinations" or killings, still result in direct death if an attack would immediately kill an opponent.  This intentional "killing" exception, includes anything from a simple knife in the back, magic missiles and all the way up to the more drastic and directly lethal spells already mentioned.

Hopefully, we don't have any major PvP issues... but drow will be drow.  So settle things "nicely" as players.  8-)

Sexual Content:  As per discussion/Q&A encounters between players are between involved parties (i.e. Only a public person A and person B are "doing it" by the lake, type post is needed in case person A and/or person B would need to be sought out or in case some random monster or person would happen to stumble upon their "encounter" and turn their private encounter into an "escapade").

Any "public" sexual content or story line content will either be played out or can be just be written up as more of novel scene depending on how the players want to handle it.  This includes things such as the graduation ceremonies at the Academy, where part of it is basically a big orgy.

Any non-consensual content, must have the expressed consent of the participants and again may be completely played out or written out as more of a novel scene.

Custom Rules

Character Religion: Your character's religion must be role-played.  It doesn't have to be a primary focus, but it has to be clear enough so that it is a characteristic of your character.

Remember your character lives in a female clergy of Lolth controlled world, and the Spider Queen does not tolerate competition.  If you do so happen to worship another deity, you'll have to pay "lip service" to Lolth or just be extremely good in hiding your true faith.

Bows and Crossbows: Tactically speaking, due to the nature of the cavern environment the use of bows doesn't make sense.  Therefore, regardless whether of not, it is possible to "forge" a functional bow out of steel, the drow use crossbows as their ranged weapons.  Actual short bows and long bows are not available in Menzoberranzan or would have to be imported on special request by a merchant that at the Bazaar that had ties to the surface.

Actually, isn't so much the material/construction factor, as it is the space for properly using a bow in some areas of the Underdark.  While many caverns and such are large open areas, many areas where drow engage in battle can be narrow tunnels or even narrowly shaped caverns where crossbows have proven to be more effective as first strike ranged weapons, before closing into melee.

Players may not begin play with short bows or long bows and any attempts to make a special request to a merchant for one must be role-played out with either myself or Ghostwheel.

Poisons: After talking Ghostwheel and I felt that poisons in D&D just felt "wrong".  Both in pricing and "power", so we are going to use a different system to help this.  Please see here for more details.  Questions should be directed to Ghostwheel or myself.  The types of poisons themselves are still the same listed in the books, we are just using a new system to determine costs and using a system that allows players a way to create stronger poisons if they desire.

Special Material - Mithral:: While the availability of the metal itself may not be lacking in the Underdark, due to the metal's silvery color the drow tend to favor adamantine for their weapons and armor.  While they have developed a process for "blackening" mithral armor during its forging, said process is costly and thus has kept adamantine to be the favored metal due to its natural color.  In fact, even finding a blacksmith who has the tools and skills to forge "blackened" mithral is sometimes difficult.

Base Item Cost for "Blackened" Mithral Items:

  • Weapons: +4,500 gp
  • Ammunition: +80 gp
  • Armor (light): +7,000 gp
  • Armor (medium): +14,000 gp
  • Armor (heavy): +21,000 gp

Weapons and Armor Concealment: Especially armor concealment, if you are going to try to conceal your armor with your clothing, you need to:


  • Think about the type of armor you're wearing versus the clothing you are wearing.
  • Consider the "bulkiness" of the armor you're wearing versus the clothing are wearing.  Concealing a chain shirt, not necessarily a difficult task if you aren't wearing "revealing" clothes.  Concealing breastplates, half-plate, full plate, banded mail, or splint mail... not going to happen.
  • Also consider from the armor description how much of your body the armor covers, versus how much your clothing is covering.  Or can your outfit sort of blend in with any pieces of armor that might be "sticking out".
  • For things like chain shirts...there is still a small noise factor to consider or for any small things like a low cut shirt collar that might accidentally reveal your armor, any reflective properties of the armor.


  • For weapons, again as with armor there are just somethings you can't hide.  No one is going to hide say a two-handed sword or a polearm.
  • But for things like daggers and the like, you have to things to consider.  There is the where, the how, and the how to keep them hidden.

To Roll or Not to Roll, That is the Question...

Online Dice Roller: No "strict" enforcement of which you use.  So you don't have to use Elliquiy's if you don't "like" it.  Our only rule for fairness, is that Ghostwheel and I have to be able to check reference to the site your roll(s) came from.  If we cannot, then your roll(s) will be considered invalid.

Skill Rolls: Since we're here to focus more on the RP aspect, I'd like to push skill rolls of to the side a bit.  Unless the task (skill trick, etc.) is difficult say DC 20 or above or it something your character has never done before (or is trying to learn), we are going to use the Take 10 rule for Skill Checks.  If however, you have any reason you want to NOT Take 10 and to attempt a roll for a skill attempt, you may always do so.  However, this means for opposed skill checks this entitles your opponents to do so as well.

Combat Scenario Skill Checks: During Combat Scenarios (any time Initiative Rolls are called for by the DM or Co-DM), the Take 10 rule does NOT apply.  All Skill Rolls must be rolled during Combat Scenarios.

Combat Rules: Any rolls for combat; including Initiative, attack, damage, healing, etc. will be rolled and rolls, along results should be pasted in the thread.




Character Creation and Sourcebook Allowances/Dis-allowances

Ruling about 3.0/3.5 sources: If a book was either completely republished for 3.5 (or has an update), you use the 3.5 update.  If no 3.5 update exists or say for example the prestige class was not republished in any other 3.5 sourcebook, please present to me, just so I can take a quick glance.  More than likely I'll have no problem with it.

Rule regarding Core Sourcebook material versus Forgotten Realms Sourcebook material (primarily regarding prestige classes): This will be addressed on a case by case basis, although if one person asks about a particular prestige class and I rule one way, said ruling stands for all.  Prestige class material seems to be the only majorly point where conflicting information seems to arise, however if any other issue can be pointed out, again it will be addressed on a case by case basis, and once a ruling has been made, it stands.

Sourcebooks Dis-allowed: Unearthed Arcana (except for traits/flaws AND Variant Classes approved on a case by case basis with provided character concept; all other material in the Unearthed Arcana remains excluded including Paragon Classes, Spell Points, Weapon Group Feats, etc.), Tome of Magic, Dragon Magic, Frostburn, Heroes of Battle, Heroes of Horror, ANY other Campaign Setting material (Oriental Adventures, Ravenloft, etc.)

Sourcebooks Allowed:: ANY Forgotten Realms material (again if there is a 3.5 update please use it) and any other D&D 3.5 book NOT listed under the dis-allowed section (i.e. Complete Warrior, Complete Adventurer, Spell Compendium, Expanded Psionics, Complete Psionics, Magic Item Compendium, are all OK). 

Again if there wasn't a 3.5 update or if for example a prestige class was never republished in a 3.5 book, please ask me for approval; approval will be for the prestige class itself or for the feat, item, etc. in question not the book itself...unless you have reason to ask for the entire book.

Reminder: Note your ECL, but for encounter purposes and such it will not be a factor.  I know and you know, you are all drow.  Worse case, there is an extra "bad" guy or something for you to deal with, because I felt the last encounter was too easy, and so I up the difficulty a bit.

Character Creation

Drow Racial Abilities/Adjustments: See here

Starting Level: 3rd
Ability Scores: 32 point buy
Hit Points: Max + CON 1st level; d12 HD 9+CON thereafter, d10 HD 7+CON thereafter, All others 1/2 HD + 1 + CON thereafter
Traits: 1
Flaws: up to 2
Regional Feat: Given as bonus feat (see the Player's Guide to Faerun and/or the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting)

Highborn Drow [Feat]: Given as bonus feat if your character is the son or daughter of a Matron mother (or son or daughter of one of the Matron's daughters, making you an indirect "family" member; no players playing commoner characters may take this feat).  I am changing the level at which you gain the Levitate ability to 8th level.  However, I am also giving an additional use of the basic drow spell abilities for every 6 character levels (so at 6th, 12th, and 18th) for possessors of this feat.

TOTAL Feats (for Commoners): 2 + 1 bonus Regional
TOTAL Feats (for Nobles; sons/daughters of Matron Mothers or sons/daughters of the Matron's daughters): 2 + 1 bonus Regional + Highborn Drow

*Feat Total excludes any Class Bonus Feats and Bonus Feats from Flaws
*NOTE: Since there are like only 2 Regional Feats for Drow of Menzoberranzan, unless it is something absolutely off the wall like choosing a dwarf only (or surface elf only), or anything else that just wouldn't make sense, you may choose from any Regional Feats within reason.  If in doubt, please ask.

Starting Equipment/Gold

Gold: 1,500 gp (may be spent on personal items, potions, etc.; please see me before buying additional weapons/armor)

Basic Gear: You will be assumed to be supplied with a Basic Set of gear.  Whether you want to say you have it with you or the Academy supplies it to you for raids and such, is up to you.  But for any Academy "sponsored" trips, they will supply their students with traveling basics.  For personal trips you are responsible for supplying yourself and may assume you have 1 Basic Set of gear, but beyond that you must obtain supplies yourself for any personal use.

Weapons, Armor, Wands, Etc.: Please see me with at least your character concept and a basic background (Please include notes, such as whether or not you will be using two-weapon fighting for your primary means of combat).  You will be given drowcraft adamantine arms and armor appropriate for your character and concept.  Or for example wizards will receive some appropriate items since they can't use nor would they benefit from having armor or for example say a sword.

Special Note: Character concepts and backgrounds will also impact starting equipment.

** As Noted you will be given items appropriate for your character/concept, such as weapons and armor (or wands, rods, etc.) by me as part of your starting package.  Please PM me to discuss your character concept, so that your starting package can be determined appropriately. **

Class Restrictions:

Female characters: Must be primarily clerics (or please see me)
Male characters: May not be clerics

*Traits and Flaws must be role-played, but for all intents and purposes the in-game system is optional.  You do NOT have to take a trait and/or flaw.  You are allowed to, but do not have to; my only exception to this would be, if you played out one of the traits listed, such as Dishonest or Nearsighted, but any characteristic not listed or one such as Spellgifted or Specialized does not have to be taken.  Said talents can be played out by taking feats/skills or class features.  But the honesty/dishonesty, while they can be realistically be played out, for game purposes, the trait fits.

You may also elect to take additional traits instead of the bonus feats granted by taking flaws.


Starting Age Ranges and Academy Class Information

Melee-Magthere (Fighter types): Between age 17-23, you will be new Academy students, just beginning your training.

Sorcere (Wizard types): Between age 40 - 65, you will be in your 2nd decade of training, having ten more years to go.

Arach-Tinilith (Clerics): Between age 75 - 80, you will be in your 4th decade of training, also having only ten more years to go.

*Note: This places all students in this game on pace to graduate at the same time.  Remember it is the social structure of elven societies that "holds" back their social and sometimes their mental development, physically they develop like humans.  Elves just don't age like humans once they reach physical adulthood, time just doesn't affect them as it does humans.  However, because of this they often tend to take things at a slower pace and not rush like humans, which is why for the most part humans or other races don't see elves outside their own homes that haven't lived for at least almost an entire century.


Ghostwheel

Would be interested, though if you're willing to be swayed, I'd like Pathfinder personally. Been wanting to try out Path of War if that's cool.

Countdown0

Very interested.

Would our characters just be doing a kind of a "day in the life of a Drow" sort of thing, or would we be dispatched on grand adventures to, say, steal from Gray Dwarves, or raid surface Elf villages?
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Siereis

I think Countdown posted the very best question (see post directly above) and I am interested as well.

Another question though:

  How do you see sexual content being RPed in this setting?

sleepingferret

Quote from: Ghostwheel on March 26, 2014, 06:43:26 PM
Would be interested, though if you're willing to be swayed, I'd like Pathfinder personally. Been wanting to try out Path of War if that's cool.

I have been looking more into Pathfinder lately and while I do own several PDFs.  I've run some basic scenarios and created a few characters, and even by allowing a mix of 3.5 and Pathfinder content (which can create more headaches than its worth), I've decided that 3.5 would be a better base for this.  Especially with the generalized optional content I typically allow to be used.

Quote from: Countdown0 on March 26, 2014, 06:51:23 PM
Very interested.

Would our characters just be doing a kind of a "day in the life of a Drow" sort of thing, or would we be dispatched on grand adventures to, say, steal from Gray Dwarves, or raid surface Elf villages?

As students of the Academy, while it may start as a "day in the life of a Drow", as you will be starting as I had in mind that everyone would be starting as 1st year students.  However, keep in mind that as a drow that doesn't mean you'll be starting off necessarily at level 1.  Your House Weapon Master, priestesses, or wizards would have taught you some of the basics before you left for the Academy, so you'll be starting at level 2 or 3.

But yes, you'll be dispatched to steal from enemies of the drow or to slay surface elves and such, as part of your "education".

Quote from: Siereis on March 26, 2014, 07:00:49 PM
I think Countdown posted the very best question (see post directly above) and I am interested as well.

Another question though:

  How do you see sexual content being RPed in this setting?

Any sexual content that happens throughout the story will be strictly up to the participants.  Aside how any "open" elements get played out, such as the "orgy" at graduation; such events and how they get played out will be discussed amongst the group.  If it is decided that we end up just writing it up as basically what would be considered a PG-13 "novel" scene, then that's how such scenes will get played out.  Or if such events get played out to a more descriptive extent, then so be it.

More private scenes between players can be played that do not affect the rest of the game/story or other players are free to be played as such.  And a simple public statement or two that would cover any private RP scenes, that covers what said characters are doing would be fine.  Now, if said characters are just lying by a lake and any event interrupts them...then the "game" changes and now things have to be played out, and the characters have to play things out from there.


RubySlippers

Do we have to worship Lolth or can we worship a subordinate deity?

I'm interested never played a Drow but read some novels with them in.

Countdown0

Sounds awesome so far. I'm currently planning on playing a Wizard.

So, are we going with the standard +2 Level Adjustment and various racials for Drow, or are you wanting to do a less powerful variant on them?
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Ghostwheel

The lesser drow (bottom of the page) might be an option if we don't want to take the LA.

Blinkin

color me interested. My experience with 3.5 is very limited, but I've rarely gotten the chance to play an evil character... well, evil is such a nasty word, lets call it mischievous instead. ;)

No idea what I would play, I suppose that level and so on would have a significant bearing on that.
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sleepingferret

Quote from: RubySlippers on March 26, 2014, 11:24:19 PM
Do we have to worship Lolth or can we worship a subordinate deity?

I'm interested never played a Drow but read some novels with them in.

Subordinate deities are fine.  Though anything not aligned with Lolth, will probably attract her wrath, though a few Houses managed to "get" away with it...by hiding their insubordination.

Quote from: Countdown0 on March 26, 2014, 11:46:22 PM
Sounds awesome so far. I'm currently planning on playing a Wizard.

So, are we going with the standard +2 Level Adjustment and various racials for Drow, or are you wanting to do a less powerful variant on them?

I've personally disliked both rules to be honest.  And since everyone is going to be a drow... I'm throwing them out for this game.  While you should still note your level adjustment and "note" your ECL just in case you need or want the information for later uses.  And while I have my NPCs written up with ECLs noted and considered, level adjustments and ECLs will not be affecting game play.  Your actual class levels will be, since everyone is a drow, and therefore on equal footing to begin with, I will be considering said fact and be taking that into account.

Quote from: Blinkin on March 27, 2014, 08:39:54 AM
color me interested. My experience with 3.5 is very limited, but I've rarely gotten the chance to play an evil character... well, evil is such a nasty word, lets call it mischievous instead. ;)

No idea what I would play, I suppose that level and so on would have a significant bearing on that.

There were some...keyword some...ok more like a rare few that were neutral, within the city.  Most were basically on the edge of insanity... but they were still "neutral".

Starting level hasn't been set in stone and I will be discussing that with my Co-GM.

Ghostwheel


Blinkin

I'll probably move toward the neutral side of evil just to give the character room to move in what he does. Mainly that if he wants to do something "good" it won't be out of the realm of being acceptible since he'll just expect... and get if it kills the one who owes him, something "good" in return.

I'm definently going to go for a mellee type as there are few, if any male clerics and I've never cared for wizards to begin with.

Good to know that level adjustments won't be used, they confuse me to begin with. ;) but, the question, what house to be from... not one of the big 8, but not too far down the line... there must be a listing of houses someplace...
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Foxy DeVille

Color me interested!

One question... will psionics be allowed, like if someone wanted to be from House Oblodra?

EDIT: I lied! Another question! So will all the PCs be students or teachers? Or could a character be a slave?

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Blinkin

Quote from: Muse on March 27, 2014, 01:31:35 PM
Good afternoon.  i'd be interested.

You following me around again Muse? ;)

Are you still in Shadows of the Sword Coast, or did you drop from that one? Could use the big guy there. ;)
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Countdown0

Hey Blinkin, here is a list of the top houses in Menzoberranzan at the time this RP will begin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menzoberranzan

Obviously, house DeVir is already gone, since this game starts in 1300 DR right now, so you can just move every house below them up a rank.

You bring up a good question though. sleepingferret, will we be allowed to create characters from any house we like, or are there limits? Obviously, it wouldn't make sense for there to be 4 male PCs created, all born to the Matron Mother of the same house, since the 3rd and 4th born would both be sacrificed.

And that brings up another question. Are we allowed to create characters that are part of the ruling family of whatever house we are part of? I'm assuming that we are all going to be part of some noble house or another, since the Academy seems like it wouldn't be welcoming to commoners unless they were slaves... or target practice.

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Countdown0

Quote from: RubySlippers on March 27, 2014, 04:36:08 PM
So which of the three places at the Academy trains Rogues?

Probably Melee-Magthere, the same place that trains the warrior types.

Most Drow fighters types will get a sneak attack from some kind of rogue skill. They are very much about subterfuge and fighting dirty.

Also, assuming your character is from a noble house, they will have gotten some training prior, likely in combat techniques, which to drow, include fighting dirty and backstabbery and such.
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RubySlippers

Okay I'll play a LG Rogue of a good elven deity from the surface.  O:)

Just kidding I do not want to be sacrificed to Lolth on her dark altar.

I'm thinking a NE Fighter 2/Rogue 1 not sure about her true patron deity I'm thinking Vhaeraun and follows that dogma that males and females are equal and other things but she will pay Lip Service to Lolth.  ;D

Blinkin

Thanks for the list of famlies. I appreciate it.

Hassomeone said that the characters are starting at 3rd level? It would be nice to know, but I didn't think anyone had set out generation rules yet.
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Ghostwheel

Personally, I'm leaning towards a medium fighter type who fights "smart" as well as hard (gonna have a good Int if all goes well ;D)

Countdown0

I'll probably be going for a wizard. Not sure if I want to be a battlefield controller, or a blaster... so many choices...
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Ghostwheel

You could always do a spider-based one ;D

There's an arachnomancer PrC put out by WotC that gives you the ability to turn into a gargantuan spider, a domain (extra spell per level and domain power) and extra movement/sensory modes (spider climb, webwalking, tremorsense).

Lolth would approve.

sleepingferret

Ok the quick and generally easy stuff first.

1.  Since I believe I saw someone ask.  Yes rogues would be sent to Melee-Magthere, as for all intents and purposes they are combat oriented.  Their "rogue" skills would have to developed "on the side", or in more shall we say "selective" classes.  Meaning that the masters of the Academy would take note that say RubySlippers character entered the Academy, but showed potential as a more roguish type, so they would put the character in appropriate courses.

2.  Psionics.  First and foremost, please remember, this is the Forgotten Realms.  So while psionics have a different mechanic per-say, they are still subject to ALL the same rules as magic,  meaning spell resistance affects them FULLY.  Unlike other worlds there is no separate power resistance and spell resistance mechanics, the two are one and the same.  See page 172 Forgotten Realms - Player Guide to Faerun for those of you who have it for more specific details.

There isn't a "school" for psionicists within the Academy, as the Forgotten Realms itself as well as Menzoberran is magic based.  Foxy Oni did mention the one and only House in the City of Spiders with psionic talent, House Oblodra.

3.  Countdown0 mentioned the downfall, death, destruction of House DeVir...not that it is that big of an impact...but no on may create a character from said House.  The House has been destroyed for 3 years for our intents.  If I do remember correctly off the top of my head, I believe Alton DeVir is the only survivor, and he's currently hiding at the Academy, as the Faceless One.

4.  The student and master question:  We will mostly student roles.  However, a few master roles will also be needed.  And as I believe as I've mentioned before, as this is a "pre-made" setting, I will be posting up some characters that were Masters of the Academy or even perhaps just important figureheads of the city that would have impact our story (aka Matron Mothers of the Houses of the students' characters or even just the High Priestesses, etc., etc.). 

5.  Since I have not gotten any other Co-GM interest, I do believe Ghostwheel will be serving as our Co-GM.


Ok since it seems we have a fair amount of interest, I do have a few RL things to take care of tonight.  But I will at least get a few inquiries over to Ghostwheel for him to think over.  And I will be posting character creation rules and such over the weekend, once any questions I would like to be discussed with Ghostwheel taken care of.

For now, just so you do have some food for thought... I do have a few rules for now:

1.  Female characters - MUST be primarily clerics.  If you want to be a female character that is going to be primarily anything other than a cleric, you must PM me to discuss your concept.  This is Menzoberranzan, and l'd say maybe 1% or even less of all females were primarily NOT clerics.

2.  The City of Spiders has it's nickname for a reason.  All characters must be Lolth worshipers or risk potentially incurring the wrath of the ruling eight, let alone the Spider Queen herself.  While worship of Vhaeraun or other drow gods/goddesses is possible, said worship must be kept hidden.

Quote from: RubySlippers on March 27, 2014, 06:38:49 PM

I'm thinking Vhaeraun and follows that dogma that males and females are equal and other things but she will pay Lip Service to Lolth.  ;D


RubySlippers' statement says it best... better pay the darling Lolth lip service...unless you do want to be sacrificed.

3.  Going back to the psionics issue.  I have no real ruling against them.  However, remember only the one House in all of the city was known to really have any association with them.  And for all intents and purposes they would be your only "teachers".  Yet by tradition and as well as pretty much city law, you would be sent to the Academy.  Your "learning" however would be more like our modern day reference to "sleeping in class", unless you chose to multi-class.  Your psionic growth would be more innate or done by learning for more powerful psionicists which only your house would have.

Countdown0

I think I'll stay away from the Arachnomancer, Ghostwheel.  While I do have the Drow of the Underdark book for 3.5, and I've been reading it since this thread came up, I feel like its a step down from just straight Wizard >.<

Also, my character is going to be male, so he wont feel the same love for Lolth that a female character would. He still legitimately worships her, as much as any male Drow can. He just isn't more fond of spiders than he is, say, Dire Tigers.
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Quote from: sleepingferret on March 27, 2014, 09:09:58 PM
Going back to the psionics issue.  I have no real ruling against them.  However, remember only the one House in all of the city was known to really have any association with them.  And for all intents and purposes they would be your only "teachers".  Yet by tradition and as well as pretty much city law, you would be sent to the Academy.  Your "learning" however would be more like our modern day reference to "sleeping in class", unless you chose to multi-class.  Your psionic growth would be more innate or done by learning for more powerful psionicists which only your house would have.

Okey doke, that works for me. I was thinking it might be fun to play as a member of House Oblodra since their long term future is nonexistent. Give things a nice touch of fatalism. My idea is to just take a level or two in a psionic class and then continue on as a cleric.

Countdown0

I have a correction to make. Contrary to my previous statement that I thought the Academy would exclude Drow commoners, all Drow of Menzoberranzan are required to attend schooling at Tier Breche.

This lends to the idea that most, if not all, female characters would be at least partly Clerics, or perhaps some other class whose spell casting is drawn from a divine source, since all mothers would want their daughters to become Priestesses of Lolth; what the father's wanted would at best be considered something worth duly noting, and more likely, irrelevant. Besides that, fathers would probably want their daughters to be Priestesses too, if only to make themselves look good.

Of course, noble born Drow would still likely be given preferential treatment over commoners... or they would be more likely targets for assassination. One or the other.
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That is correct all drow, commoner or noble alike are required to attend the Academy.  Nobles, those born to a Matron mother, regardless of "city rank" are given some "preference". 

Or well, commoners usually were usually the fighters that filled the house armies and a few minor clerics and wizards; most never rose much past their skill levels they achieved at the Academy.  This was mostly due to the strictness of the society, especially with the clerics and wizards, keeping tight control on more powerful abilities.

You may choose to play either commoner or noble.  For those interested in playing Masters at the Academy, you will obviously be of noble birth; as even being the lowliest "teacher" of the Academy had some prestige with it.

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Multiple rogues in a drow party is probably a good thing, really. Twice as many chances to spot traps or ambushes, twice as many back stabs or other miscellaneous forms of sneak attacks, can't really think of a negative. Plus once we get up in levels a bit, it will make for some fun once my Wizard learns to cast invisibility.

Also, while reading through Drow of the Underdark, I've found an interesting suggestion in the book regarding female drow characters. Since Lolth resides in the abyss and is served by demons, drow Warlocks are considered favored by her, and a female drow warlock can attain similar ranking as a cleric, as long as they meet the same standards as the other priestesses, mostly because Warlocks can gain their power from demonic interactions. Just some food for thought for anyway wanting to play a female drow but not wanting to be a cleric.
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If there's still room for one more I'd like to throw my hat in.  Possibly something off the wall that hasn't been suggested, ranger, or barbarian maybe?
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Quote from: Countdown0 on March 28, 2014, 05:14:52 AM
Multiple rogues in a drow party is probably a good thing, really. Twice as many chances to spot traps or ambushes, twice as many back stabs or other miscellaneous forms of sneak attacks, can't really think of a negative. Plus once we get up in levels a bit, it will make for some fun once my Wizard learns to cast invisibility.

Also, while reading through Drow of the Underdark, I've found an interesting suggestion in the book regarding female drow characters. Since Lolth resides in the abyss and is served by demons, drow Warlocks are considered favored by her, and a female drow warlock can attain similar ranking as a cleric, as long as they meet the same standards as the other priestesses, mostly because Warlocks can gain their power from demonic interactions. Just some food for thought for anyway wanting to play a female drow but not wanting to be a cleric.

That's partially incorrect.  Warlocks are indirect servants of Lolth, they serve her demon minions more than the Spider Queen directly.  And should a female of any status (or should she end up proving herself) whatsoever be a Warlock, she would become a priestess.  The recognition, power, and honor tied to being a priestess is something no female would pass up, with the way Menzoberranzan's society is ran.  The priestesses have all the power.

Any noble born (daughter(s) of a Matron mother) are going to be priestesses (at least primarily; multi-classing they can be anything else, but their cleric level is always going to be at least 1-2 levels higher than all other classes, for example cleric 5/fighter 4 or cleric 4/fighter 2/warlock 3.  Both 9th level characters.)

Female commoners, are usually just your house chapel tenders and ones who fill the prayer circles during large ceremonies.  And never really achieve "great" power.  Those that do or want a chance to, have to show some sort of talent and Lolth most give her blessing.  Society again places theses individuals as priestesses, because again that's where the power is.

Even the lowliest priestess commands some respect within the society, while those within her own ranks can "push" her around...none of the males can.  Only someone with a position and house behind them, such as the Archmage of Menzoberranzan, can really get away with sort of ignoring lower ranking priestesses.  And even then, he even has to watch his steps about how and where he does such things.  Or some of the other male Masters of the Academy could possibly get away with such things as well, but again it's the where, how, and also how far they push the limits.  If they cross a certain line, Lolth herself might just send one her handmaidens to intervene and slap the male back in line.  :P

For female characters looking for options my suggestion is to pick one other class, and keep it one level behind your cleric level.  While the 3.5 multi-classing rules mess things up a bit, the class it really messes things up for is fighters (or any other combat oriented class, looking to max out his/her attacks per round and base attack bonus, which you have to do by 20th level).  For everything else, such as spells per day... you can take till 10 millionth level to max out, because it is based on your class level.  Only your base attack bonus (and number of attacks per round) and original base saving throws are set in stone by 20th level; thereafter you only get bonuses per the rules in the Epic Level Handbook.  But all other class abilities, such as spells per day and what not are still determined by your class level, so multi-classing does not hurt spell-casting classes.

Quote from: Vanetias on March 28, 2014, 06:54:06 AM
What is the tech level in the city?

Not quite sure what exact sort of answer you're looking for.  I mean, if you're wanting to play with guns, flamethrowers, or that sort of thing...this isn't Warhammer 40K type stuff.

For any who do not know what/where Menzoberranzan (aka the City of Spiders) is.  Please see here: http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Menzoberranzan

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Quote from: Kdyami on March 28, 2014, 06:22:47 AM
If there's still room for one more I'd like to throw my hat in.  Possibly something off the wall that hasn't been suggested, ranger, or barbarian maybe?

Someone wants to be the front line rage machine (or guide)?  Uh oh guys... better watch out, it's either the Black Hulk or the troublesome scout. :P

Kdyami

Quote from: sleepingferret on March 28, 2014, 12:31:53 PM
Someone wants to be the front line rage machine (or guide)?  Uh oh guys... better watch out, it's either the Black Hulk or the troublesome scout. :P

Lol I could definitly slant the character as an over eager zealot and  run him that way.  but i was thinking we didnt have an the opportunist nich filled was all.  got the sneaking and the magic and the fighting but every group needs a wild card :P
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I'll be playing a resident from Duthcloim a commoner but not poorly places her mother a dealer in opiates and her father helps the family business, none CE the family is LE largely and worships Vhaeraun secretly.

She plans to move to the surface to one of the Vhaeraunian communities at some point.

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Generalized rules are up, though they still subject to change until the end of this weekend.  Ghostwheel and I are still working on discussing a couple of final things.  But to get some ideas running in your heads, and if you have any more specific questions, I wanted to get a few more details posted.

So please refer to my original post for further details.

Xanatos

I am potentially interested. I do love the Drow.


As for a Drow Barbarian(esque) character, I do not think the Drow have any. A Barbarian is generally a dumb fighter who runs in and just gets hit. The Drow would see a Barbarian as nothing but fodder and show him zero respect. He probably wouldn't make it more than a month in the academy before being accidentally or intentionally killed. He would almost certainly be seen as a liability; especially since the Drow value stealth above just running in and attacking.

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Quote from: Xanatos on March 28, 2014, 04:14:57 PM
As for a Drow Barbarian(esque) character, I do not think the Drow have any. A Barbarian is generally a dumb fighter who runs in and just gets hit.

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He would almost certainly be seen as a liability; especially since the Drow value stealth above just running in and attacking.

I would heartily disagree on a number of points; first, I believe that flavor is mutable. You can play the barbarian as a dumb fighter who runs in and just gets hit, or you can play them as a light-armored fighter who capitalizes on their raw emotions to force their enemies into submission. What we have from mechanics is "For X rounds, gain +Y to str/con". We can easily reflavor that instead of the ability to intensely focus on yourself, "exceeding your body's limit" so to speak and pushing yourself to the edge of what is humanly possible which is quite often-used trope in many fantasy novels and sometimes even in real life.

Second, there's nothing that says that barbarians can't be sneaky--nothing forces them to roar and charge into battle. In fact, they're more likely to be sneaky than the fighter, who wears heavy armor, being limited to medium armor which has a lower ACP, and there's nothing stopping them from investing in Hide/Move Silently. Sure, it'll be at a lower rate than a rogue, but they aren't really forced to be un-sneaky.

Just my two cents :-)

Foxy DeVille

While he was a fighter in 2E, I'd say that Uthegentel Del'Armgo sounded more like a barbarian to me.

Countdown0

Quote from: Foxy Oni on March 28, 2014, 05:31:08 PM
While he was a fighter in 2E, I'd say that Uthegentel Del'Armgo sounded more like a barbarian to me.

Agreed. Plus, if you look hi up on the Forgotten Realms wiki... that thing about being able to ignore most mortal wounds sounds like a Frenzied Berzerker.

Anyway, I don't see a reason why a Drow couldn't be a Barbarian. Granted, they would probably be ridiculed behind their back, but really, which Drow isn't? :P
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Quote from: Countdown0 on March 28, 2014, 05:54:00 PM
Anyway, I don't see a reason why a Drow couldn't be a Barbarian. Granted, they would probably be ridiculed behind their back, but really, which Drow isn't? :P

Aww but I'll pout and maybe even cry...then remember I'm CE and smite my ridiculers :p
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I want to be a drow who lies, cheats, steals, backstabs, and otherwise weasels. Now if only I could pick a class... how are we feeling about necromancy? After all, you can't spell necromancer without romance.

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Quick reminder --

Rules for character creation right now are to be considered guidelines.  Nothing is officially set in stone.  If your concept fits within things as they are, feel free to proceed.  If a source-book is listed as dis-allowed, and you would like to have further review of things, Ghostwheel and myself will be discussing things, and final rulings will be posted by no later than Sunday.

Right now the goal is to have character creation and review done throughout this coming week and the weekend of April 5th - 6th.  And if all goes well, starting posts will go up by the evening of the 7th.


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*Chuckles*  Might be kinda cool to do a barbarian with a dervish type spin. *Shrugs* 

For that matter, in 2nd edition one of the few classes that had a recognizable berserk ability were the drow specialty priests of Selvetarn. 

As to every drow female in mezoberanzin being a cleric?  I rather saw a lot of the female commoners not doing so.  You don't see many examples in the Salvatore books, but the best one would be House Banrae's elite guard.  They were fighter/mages.  In 3.5 we'd call them Abjurant Champions or Eldritch Knights. 

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Anyways, I'm not trying to detract from Ferret's view of the setting. 

I'd probably glance over some of the 3.5 drow specific material before pitching anything.  I remember they had some really neat feats for using the pistol crossbow.  I had a great--if brief--time using those along with the Martial Rogue class from Unearthed Arcana. 

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I've seen several examples of the Drow as a racial type with somewhat differing abilities and modifiers. Which one do you want us to use?
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I'm guessing the 3.5 version of the race. You can see the racial abilities towards the bottom of the page.

RubySlippers

Quote from: Muse on March 28, 2014, 06:52:10 PM
*Chuckles*  Might be kinda cool to do a barbarian with a dervish type spin. *Shrugs* 

For that matter, in 2nd edition one of the few classes that had a recognizable berserk ability were the drow specialty priests of Selvetarn. 

As to every drow female in mezoberanzin being a cleric?  I rather saw a lot of the female commoners not doing so.  You don't see many examples in the Salvatore books, but the best one would be House Banrae's elite guard.  They were fighter/mages.  In 3.5 we'd call them Abjurant Champions or Eldritch Knights. 

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Anyways, I'm not trying to detract from Ferret's view of the setting. 

I'd probably glance over some of the 3.5 drow specific material before pitching anything.  I remember they had some really neat feats for using the pistol crossbow.  I had a great--if brief--time using those along with the Martial Rogue class from Unearthed Arcana. 

Speaking of Unearthed Arcana, Feret.  Would you consider the Drow Paragon class?

First one my qualify for cleric if your wisdom is under 10 its not an option, second they may not be devout enough to even be granted powers.

Foxy DeVille

At this point I see my character as someone who acts immature and undisciplined so that other will underestimate her and not notice her insidious plans to gain power until it's too late. She's sorta like the Miley Cyrus of Menzoberranzan.

Countdown0

Quote from: Foxy Oni on March 28, 2014, 09:28:44 PM
At this point I see my character as someone who acts immature and undisciplined so that other will underestimate her and not notice her insidious plans to gain power until it's too late. She's sorta like the Miley Cyrus of Menzoberranzan.

I'm already terrified O.O
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I'm going with a Fighter and Rogue, Wisdom is a whopping 8 so cleric is out, who wants to be a Thief-Acrobat prestige class to focus on her strong points.

By the way with Weapon Finesse do you need to pick a weapon for it or can you use it with any applicable weapon?

Ghostwheel

You can use it with any Light weapon, or any weapon that says it's finessable (like rapiers).

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Quote from: Ghostwheel on March 28, 2014, 09:55:02 PM
You can use it with any Light weapon, or any weapon that says it's finessable (like rapiers).

With a Dex of 20 its an important point she is best then relying on light weapons but she is still dangerous likely a Rapier since needs a hand free for acrobatics and the like in a fight.

I think the GM will okay the prestige class and I decided to stick to a pure Rogue base class.

Xanatos

Quote from: Ghostwheel on March 28, 2014, 04:36:45 PM
I would heartily disagree on a number of points; first, I believe that flavor is mutable. You can play the barbarian as a dumb fighter who runs in and just gets hit, or you can play them as a light-armored fighter who capitalizes on their raw emotions to force their enemies into submission. What we have from mechanics is "For X rounds, gain +Y to str/con". We can easily reflavor that instead of the ability to intensely focus on yourself, "exceeding your body's limit" so to speak and pushing yourself to the edge of what is humanly possible which is quite often-used trope in many fantasy novels and sometimes even in real life.

Second, there's nothing that says that barbarians can't be sneaky--nothing forces them to roar and charge into battle. In fact, they're more likely to be sneaky than the fighter, who wears heavy armor, being limited to medium armor which has a lower ACP, and there's nothing stopping them from investing in Hide/Move Silently. Sure, it'll be at a lower rate than a rogue, but they aren't really forced to be un-sneaky.

Just my two cents :-)

Well, you missed my main point, unfortunately. I was referring to Drow society, not the classes fluff. Drow value cunning and intelligence. While a Barbarian doesn't need to be stupid, a Barbarian's definition of fighting, is far above and away, not even close to how the Drow fight. Drow are physically weaker than just about all of their enemies, Ilithid aside. They need to rely on stealth, cunning, and their agility to survive. A Barbarian relies primarily on raw might - something a Drow rarely has.

Also, Drow are a civilized people, not a tribal based society. Barbarian's do not come from civilized societies. It is highly unlikely for a Barbarian too suddenly come about within Drow society. If a Matron mother saw a son whose tendencies were to fight so recklessly, she would almost certainly force him to change or just kill him without much thought on the matter. A reckless child, even a male, can bring disfavor, make enemies, or worse, bring doom down upon a house (Drizz't anyone?). All of that assumes the child even survived his brothers and sisters who are encouraged to kill their siblings (among other things).

Also of great importance, open brutality and conflict is often frowned upon in Drow society. The only Drow who can really get away with it, for any period of time, are Clerics. To openly attack or threaten one's enemies is seen as weak and or inviting disaster. Cunning wins favor and kills more enemies.

Drow survive on intelligent fighting - not a Barbarian's style - no matter how you fluff it. If you try and change it to suit the Drow, you might as well just play a Fighter.

Ghostwheel

It sounds like you're talking about the barbarian fluff within drow society; but my point is that you can change the fluff, and easily at that, to fit perfectly within drow society.

You could say the same thing about the fighter--or about any primarily martial class that gets medium/heavy armor.

As for the civilized/barbaric aspect... again, it's fluff. You could easily fluff the rage as intense emotion, and not necessarily anger. It could be a deep-welled passion to protect allies that allows you to bypass the limits of your body for a short time which fatigues you. Or alternatively, a state of intense focus where you push your body to the very limits, causing your muscles to strain to the point where they hurt themselves (which again, fatigues you).

Just because the name of the class is "barbarian" doesn't mean they need to be barbaric, reckless, or anything similar. You mentioned Drizz't--he was defiant and reckless, and not in any way a barbarian. Likewise, a barbarian can be entirely obedient (within the limits of CE Drow society, of course, where almost everyone is CE), and only unleash that hallowed state when fighting the enemies of his House.

Finally, there's nothing stopping a barbarian from investing in stealthy skills to be just as quiet as any other fighter in light or medium armor. In that, he's potentially no different from someone who's taken levels in the Fighter class.

You can change the fluff however you like, and have whatever style of barbarian you want as long as you follow the mechanical rules. You can change the flavor it to suit the Drow without repercussions, and play what you want as long as you're open to refluffing the way the class works, which is far from set in stone, and nothing "bad" will happen if you do it.

Countdown0

I'm mostly finished my character now. He's a Highborn Drow, grandson of the Matron Mother of Barrison Del'Armgo, and a Wizard who specializes in conjuration. I'm only missing starting gear and/or wealth. Everything else is pretty much set.
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Quote from: Ghostwheel on March 29, 2014, 02:35:25 AM
(within the limits of CE Drow society, of course, where almost everyone is CE)

Vaguely off-topic and not actually relevant within the realm of the whole barbarian question being posed, but I will note that canonically, drow are most often neutral evil, even if Lolth is chaotic evil, though they lean more towards chaos (or more often towards chaos) than law, and chaotic evil drow are a not-insignificant minority.

Blinkin

I will only add that a drow isn't likely to WANT to protect his allies; he/she don't have them without the certain knowledge that said ally will stab them in the back at the first convenient opportunity. So, that passion to protect allies is a non-drow attitude all it's own. You don't get to the top, or the middle even, by feeling passionate about protecting anyone but yourself... Killing a cleric, if you can get away with it via subtle ways and creativity isn't beyond the range of the average drow... you just want to make sure that it's not one of your own. ;)

Again, barbarians tend to not think before running into a fight, and no matter how you change the fluff, it's till not a drow like view that would survive the house training, much less the academy. While ou're rushing in to skin everything in sight, everything else in sight has already planned out how to lure you into their trap and taking your skin home to hang on the wall.

The comment about fighter based upon the fact that they can wear heavy armor... is a null point since a fighter can wear any armor. You can see an elf in full plate, the only reason you haven't seen a drow in plate is no one's written it... but there's spells to make that silent, so...

Certainly play what you want, but don't discount, again, what is being suggested simply because you don't like it. It's all valid advice and suggestions, but no one is saying "Don't do it!"
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Foxy DeVille

Well, the 2E Menzoberranzan box set says that members of House Obladra are known for their "reckless battle rages." That's official fluff that sounds an awful lot like what barbarians do to me. And again...  Uthegentel. So I don't see any reason someone shouldn't play a barbarian because of the belief it's not how a drow would act when an official game supplement co-authored by Big Bob Salvatore himself gives multiple examples of characters who would most likely have been barbarians if it had been written for 3E instead of 2E.

Blinkin

So, it looks like several rogues in the game. Should be fun if we can get them all to work together and just walk through a game backstabbing everything with flanking. ;) The wizards and clerics can just sit back and relax.... until we get tired of them and gain up on them too. lol
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RubySlippers

About barbarians Selvetarm is the Drow deity of blood lust and battle surely they have barbarians.

sleepingferret

Quote from: Kdyami on March 29, 2014, 04:08:20 AM
You want us to PM our characters or post them or what?

Please PM your initial concepts and character class(es) to me.  Again, as a reminder... final rule changes for character creation will be posted by tomorrow.  They won't be anything drastic, but as you notice I don't have starting equipment/gold rules, and some have been asking me to review a few things and allow them to use some material from what are currently listed as dis-allowed source-books.

But if for the most part none of this affects your character creation (aside from the starting equipment/gold bit), please feel free to proceed with your character creation.  Just submit any initial concepts and classes to me, so I can get things posted so the group has an idea of its composition.

I'm a strong believer in play what you like, so if an NPC here and there has to fill a few "vital" roles for combative purposes during surface raids and or what not, don't stress yourselves.

sleepingferret

Please also have your completed character sheets submitted no later than April 4 or April 5th if possible so I and/or Ghostwheel if necessary and glance over them, just to check for game mechanic stuff.  Character concepts and roleplaying remain top priority but for any combat or dice rolling issues, we just want things to be fair for all involved.

Thanks for your time and your interest, and let's all have a good time.  As always if you have any questions, feel free to ask.

Muse

 Hmm... 

Okay, I'll pitch a character concept soon.  His class will be Swashbuckler.  That should go well with the archetypal drow warrior.  :) 
A link for all of us who ever had a shouting match with our muse: http://www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_gilbert_on_genius.html

How to set this Muse ablaze (O/Os)

When the little angel won't appear no matter how many plum blossoms you swirl:  https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=135346.msg16474321#msg16474321 (Major update 5/10/2023)

Blinkin

wow, 3 roggues, 2 swashbucklers, a wizard and cleric... and a berserker posing as a civilized barbarian... quite a group.
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Countdown0

Quote from: Blinkin on March 29, 2014, 05:02:12 PM
wow, 3 roggues, 2 swashbucklers, a wizard and cleric... and a berserker posing as a civilized barbarian... quite a group.

And my Wizard can already cast invisibility. So, who wants their rogue to not have to use their hide skill to sneak about? :D
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Well we all know who is in charge. *Cleric*

The rest of us are just trash compared to her even if high born.

Kdyami

Hey all I'm property of the U.S government and as such I may randomly disappear for a day or two.  I apologize in advance but I'll get back to you ASAP

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Quote from: RubySlippers on March 29, 2014, 05:54:24 PM
Well we all know who is in charge. *Cleric*

The rest of us are just trash compared to her even if high born.

Better make ourselves useful then. Don't give her a reason to think she'd be better off sacrificing you to Lolth, and you should be fine :P
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Swashbucklers are a combat class with full base attack.  *shrugs* 
A link for all of us who ever had a shouting match with our muse: http://www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_gilbert_on_genius.html

How to set this Muse ablaze (O/Os)

When the little angel won't appear no matter how many plum blossoms you swirl:  https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=135346.msg16474321#msg16474321 (Major update 5/10/2023)

sleepingferret

#72
I'm going to state this openly to save myself and Ghostwheel some time.  Unless your online source(s) for class statistics and progression, is the same as the published book, the answer is no.

Brief variant references such as those that are listed in the Unearthed Arcana that change a thing or two here and there, are completely different (see the Character Creation Rules).  But full progression chart changes... automatic no.

EDIT: If for any reason you need official information from sourcebooks send me a PM.

Kdyami

*goes and digs my books out of storage*  Just to be safe :)
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sleepingferret

Reminder, we still have at least 3 master roles and if anyone desires to play the ..... well not so lovely Matron Mistress Triel Baerne, please see me for more information.  Current players or new interested parties, welcome to apply.

Anon315

My character plans to be a toadie. Who needs a toadie?

Foxy DeVille

Quote from: Anon315 on March 29, 2014, 07:52:07 PM
My character plans to be a toadie. Who needs a toadie?

I do! I do! My character is a manipulative little wench and could use someone to do the heavy lifting.

Countdown0

My character can summon toadies as needed :P
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Can a Master player have that as a second character?

sleepingferret

#79
Quote from: RubySlippers on March 29, 2014, 08:15:17 PM
Can a Master player have that as a second character?

They can, please send me your interest in which role you want to take.  And we can discuss the details.

Anon315

Quote from: Foxy Oni on March 29, 2014, 07:59:11 PM
I do! I do! My character is a manipulative little wench and could use someone to do the heavy lifting.

As long as the heavy lifting is proverbial.... what with the being a weakling.

Foxy DeVille

Quote from: Anon315 on March 29, 2014, 10:37:19 PM
As long as the heavy lifting is proverbial.... what with the being a weakling.

Proverbial works for me!

Countdown0

Hey ferret, I have a question.

In regards to the starting items that we will be given, like the more martial types being given drowcraft weapons and such, since my character is a Wizard, do I get to make requests as to what kind of items I would get? Obviously, nothing ridiculous, like a Ring of Three Wishes or a Staff of Power, but you know, some kind of caster appropriate items.

Also, I'm assume that such requests, should we get to make them, ought to be PM'd to you or ghostwheel?

Or will you just give items that you feel are appropriate?
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Hmmm... we need more girls keen to join this party. Otherwise my character is gonna be spending a lot of time filing her nails in Arach-Tinilith.

Countdown0

Quote from: Foxy Oni on March 29, 2014, 11:20:08 PM
Hmmm... we need more girls keen to join this party. Otherwise my character is gonna be spending a lot of time filing her nails in Arach-Tinilith.

You'd rather her have more people planning on stabbing her in the back?
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Quote from: Countdown0 on March 29, 2014, 10:56:35 PM
Hey ferret, I have a question.

In regards to the starting items that we will be given, like the more martial types being given drowcraft weapons and such, since my character is a Wizard, do I get to make requests as to what kind of items I would get? Obviously, nothing ridiculous, like a Ring of Three Wishes or a Staff of Power, but you know, some kind of caster appropriate items.

Also, I'm assume that such requests, should we get to make them, ought to be PM'd to you or ghostwheel?

Or will you just give items that you feel are appropriate?

Any discussion of character concepts, starting arms and armor...or magical "toys" for spellcasters needs to be PM'd to me.

sleepingferret

As I have been giving out items I have been getting requests for mithral armor.  Mithral, is a shiny or at the very least a silvery metal...drow live in a near light-less, world things where things like mithral would reflect very badly off the slightest glow off what little natural light there is.  Which is why while heavier (well no heavier than ordinary steel, but certainly stronger), they tend to favor the darker colored adamantine.  It is a trade off, even for the more stealth favoring drow.

Right now, I have been giving people +1 drowcraft adamantine armor.  While heavier, you do realize the full cost and actual combat value of just this one item is?  Drowcraft armors give a +2 deflection bonus to their Armor Class.  So for all intents and purposes you are getting +1 armor and a +2 ring of protection rolled into one.  Adamantine, gives a small damage reduction bonus for armor and for light armor users it is only 1 point, medium armor 2 points, and heavy armor 3 points; but that is still damage subtracted from incoming physical hits.

Low Strength score you say?  You live in a world where weaknesses are frowned upon and anyone that would be wearing armor had better have the Strength to do so, is my answer.  Wizards are about the only ones that wouldn't be "lifting" weights or who would spend so much time with their noses buried in their spellbooks that their Strength scores would suck, so if you gave them armor to wear they'd probably drop to their knees from the weight.

And look at the standard armor weight charts, don't even think about ANY special materials.  Leather armors, which can't be made of any special materials anyways... weigh 15-20 lbs (20 for studded), so for D&D purposes those aren't exactly a "cakewalk" either in terms of weight for people looking for a way to "save" on encumbrance.

SO, since I have what seems like a million requests to answer for this and that.... I'm going to answer at least just this one, right up front and cover it all in public... BUT, if I have already given you your DM Granted Stuff list, you MUST report back to me if you intend on changing.

I did put in my custom rules section that there can be "blackened" mithral, and this will be the ONLY mithral that will be available in the city, as far as finished items.  I put listings for ammunition and weapons, but unless you really need to save weight on your weapons...I seriously doubt anyone is going to need a mithral weapon as mithral doesn't bypass any special damage reductions or anything like that.

Anyways, OK.  For anyone wanting mithral armor... here's the deal.  And listen carefully, as I'm not going to play "ring around the rosy" about this.

You have a choice, as I've said I have been giving out +1 drowcraft adamantine armors, so you can either:


  • A) Take the +1 drowcraft adamantine armor
  • B) Take "blackened" mithral armor

So essentially it comes down to, do you want the extra protection or do you want to loose the weight?  Actual acceptable starting armor type choices are still up to my decision, although for anyone I have given a DM Granted Stuff list to and you are merely wanting to just switch to "blackened" mithral of the same type, you may do so.

For anyone wanting leather armor (or studded leather), please still see me for discussion about such.

Blinkin

Ummm, sorry for being dense, +2 deflection for drow crafted? Does that mean that all attacks, or just ranged attacks are effected?

I'm not complaining, I just associate deflection with missile weapons and want to make sure that 3.5 didn't sneak something by me while I was scratching my head.

No problem with the Adamantine stuff, it works just ducky for me. :)

If I had a question, does Drow crafted have any other effects on weapons aside from the enchantment bonus?

One final question, and I think that I'm done with the questions... I know, I know, I ask lots of questions...Is blackened Mithral lacquered, or treated with a substance that dulls it's reflective values. I was curious because, technically, armors have been lacquered in a variety of ways and colors for centuries. Not painted, but, but enamaled is better of a term I guess. I know that strikes can damage the finish, and therefore the shine show through, but that may also be an option for the chrome effect.

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sleepingferret

Quote from: Blinkin on March 31, 2014, 11:40:40 AM
Ummm, sorry for being dense, +2 deflection for drow crafted? Does that mean that all attacks, or just ranged attacks are effected?

I'm not complaining, I just associate deflection with missile weapons and want to make sure that 3.5 didn't sneak something by me while I was scratching my head.

No problem with the Adamantine stuff, it works just ducky for me. :)

If I had a question, does Drow crafted have any other effects on weapons aside from the enchantment bonus?

One final question, and I think that I'm done with the questions... I know, I know, I ask lots of questions...Is blackened Mithral lacquered, or treated with a substance that dulls it's reflective values. I was curious because, technically, armors have been lacquered in a variety of ways and colors for centuries. Not painted, but, but enamaled is better of a term I guess. I know that strikes can damage the finish, and therefore the shine show through, but that may also be an option for the chrome effect.

Well first, drowcraft armor... deflection bonuses in D&D are just a type of Armor Class bonus.  They count against attacks that are made that someone would have to roll against your Armor Class, both ranged and melee.

Drowcraft weapons provide a +2 luck bonus to attack and damage, aside from the enchantment bonus of the weapon itself.  So the +1 drowcraft weapons I have been giving people, by math are giving a total of +3 to attack and damage.  However, for purposes of bypassing damage reduction and such, they are only +1 weapons.

Blackened mithral has been "colored" during forging using oxidizing or oil-quenching processes; or sometimes with the aid of magics. 

sleepingferret

Ok first, your character's religion must be role-played...I will post a "rule" about this as a reminder and something "official", but I wanted to make an announcement for now.  It doesn't have to be a primary focus, but it has to be clear enough so that it is a characteristic of your character.

Remember your character lives in a female clergy of Lolth controlled world, and the Spider Queen does not tolerate competition.  If you do so happen to worship another deity, you'll have to pay "lip service" to Lolth or just be extremely good in hiding your true faith.


Second, YOU are NOT surface elves!  YOU have never been to the surface!  So where in the Abyss or the Nine Hells would you obtain a short bow or long bow?  For one, think realistically about your characters' surroundings and the size of a bow.  Sure within the city cavern itself, the weapon could be "effectively" be used.  But outside the city, there are several tunnels and caverns it would be probably useless due to the size of the weapon.  So tactically, crossbows are going to be more effective ranged weapons for underground.  While they aren't exactly your "fast" loading or multiple shot weapons, if you need a long range weapon, that's the weapon of choice.


RubySlippers

My Master character loves Lolth, the rogue hates her guts like her patron god but well pays lip service to her.

sleepingferret

Wait... you kiss spiders.... *raises eyebrows* I have to see this, this is going to be interesting, goes to find popcorn.

Countdown0

Quote from: sleepingferret on March 31, 2014, 06:36:04 PM
Wait... you kiss spiders.... *raises eyebrows* I have to see this, this is going to be interesting, goes to find popcorn.

Careful, you're male. If she finds your presence insulting, she might sacrifice you. Here, have some binoculars *hands binoculars*
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My rogue is low borne and the Master more likely would summon something, unpleasant, to deal with the offender.

Countdown0

Fair enough. But if she's female, being low born isn't that much of a constraint when it comes to bossing males around.
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Actually she feels both genders are equal, one reason her Patron deity is not on good terms with Lolth. In public she clearly will feel superior to most of the fighter students being female and look down on them of course.

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Just a quick "sales" pitch.... still two Master slots available, if anyone is interested.  Current players or new parties welcome, so tell your friends!

Details will be given to interested parties, no game statistic details or such will be posted openly.  The role however, is your character being an instructor at one of the schools at the Academy, teaching a class or classes in a various skill or skills and you will be interacting with the other players in that manner.

If you are interested, please send me a PM.

RubySlippers

Quote from: Countdown0 on March 31, 2014, 07:16:56 PM
Huh... interesting. Who's her deity?

Vhaeraun, not that he is nice but does operate on the surface where she wants to go and she was taught to respect men as equals and well is happy to work with other races to some degree like humans. But she is again in public just another superior female to the worthless males.

Countdown0

Quote from: RubySlippers on March 31, 2014, 08:38:56 PM
Vhaeraun, not that he is nice but does operate on the surface where she wants to go and she was taught to respect men as equals and well is happy to work with other races to some degree like humans. But she is again in public just another superior female to the worthless males.

Delightful :P

So the female superiority complex is a ruse? Its actually going to be interesting to see how it works.
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If she got married at home she would treat her husband and children equally but hopefully won't be in the Drow capital when that is an issue.

sleepingferret

****NEW ANNOUNCEMENT****

Talking with Ghostwheel, and I know games like this take a while to get setup to make sure people characters done right and what not.  But I also know, people loose interest because of that...so Ghostwheel and I have decided to do a bit of a compromise.

Please have your character sheets turned in within the next two days, so Ghostwheel and I can go over them, get your DM Granted Stuff lists handed out to you and such.  Now, while fighter types will be spending your beginning days or even weeks unarmed at the Academy, the wizardly types and clerical types are in the upper ranking classes, so having your DM Granted Stuff lists completed and handed out, will be impact your beginning role-playing more, as you will have access to your items and can be carrying around and at least be wearing these items.

I know this is right in the middle of the business week and people have work and such, and even during "weekends" people even work these days.  However, if possible please try to do what you can to do as best as you can to complete your characters.

This isn't meant to scare anyone off, this is just trying to keep people here... if we're still holding everyone...then please talk to us and we'll continue to work with everyone and get characters completed as quickly as possible.

Snake

#102
I've got mine ready but Myth-weavers didn't save it. and instead froze up. Argh

On the upside.

I'm also taking on a barbarian character. But with a twist, though my drow IS higborn. I have yet to decide which house he's a part of. Does anyone know where I can find a list of houses in Menzo?

sleepingferret



The following are the topmost houses of Menzoberranzan:

  • Baenre
  • Barrison Del'Armgo
  • Oblodra (destroyed by Lolth in DR1358, described in Siege of Darkness)
  • Hun'ett (destroyed by Do'Urden in DR1338, described in Exile)
  • Faen Tlabbar
  • Xorlarrin
  • Agrach Dyrr (became a vassal of House Baenre in DR1372 in the outcome of the War of the Spider Queen)
  • Mizzrym
  • Do'Urden (destroyed by Baenre in DR1340, described in Exile)
  • Fey-Branche
  • Tuin'Tarl
  • Duskryn
  • Srune'Lett
  • Horlbar
  • Kenafin
  • Druu'giir
  • Hunzrin
  • Shobalar
  • Vandree
  • Symryvvin

House DeVir, the former fourth House, was destroyed 3 years ago by House Do'Urden during Drizzt Do'Urden's birth and only has one unknown survivor to the rest of the city. 
   
The following Houses are merchant families, houses outside the first 20-30 or so and thus were not an immediate "threat" to the ongoing power struggle within the city.  The families always battling with each other for a place on the ruling council or even just a higher ranking within the city for more respect.

  • Freth [destroyed in 1319 DR] ("Homeland")
  • Teken'duis [destroyed in 1319 DR] ("Homeland")
  • Hekar ("Starless night")
  • Catanzaro ("Dragon228")
  • Despana ("Dissolution")
  • Pharn ("Realms Personalities")
  • Coloara ("Realms Personalities")
   
   
   
   
   
   
 
   
   
   

Snake

Hmm but if this is still shortly after Drizzt's birth and the destruction of DeVir. Hun'net is still functional technically isn't it?

And Agrach Dyrr is lead by a Lich actually :p

I may go with Duskryn though. Bein one of the top houses but still low in comparison would give the a certain drive that resulted in my char's birth (discussed with Ghost on Y)

sleepingferret

Hun'ett still has 38 years before House Do'Urden trashes them, there by Matron Malice Do'Urden gaining her short term seat on the Ruling Council.  Which due to her failure to kill Drizzt, she looses two years later.

Snake

Indeed that's true.

I've been studying up on things since I found out about this group. it's always a good thing. 

sleepingferret

#107
DM Granted Item Lists Given Out:


  • Muse
  • RubySlippers (student character ONLY; Master Character still needs to be discussed)
  • Foxy Oni (student character ONLY; Master Character still needs to be discussed)
  • Snake
  • Countdown0
  • Blinkin
  • Kdyami
  • Ghostwheel

If you have not received your DM Granted Item List Please send a PM to BOTH myself and Ghostwheel at this point.  Or if for some reason I have mistakenly put your name on the list above for people I have gave a list out to.

Also if you have questions about your DM Granted Item List or anything else, now is the time to ask.  As with my previous announcement today, we'd like to try to get everyone's characters done by Wednesday/Thursday, if at all possible.  Again as stated, if the entire group we have gathered as a WHOLE and I mean you can ALL agree that you'd all gladly help each other out and wait for each other to get things done right, then fine.  Ghostwheel and I won't push things, but we're wanting to make sure no one walks away from loosing interest because it is taking too long just to get started.

As always ask if you have questions and have a great week!

RubySlippers

I've got a medical appointment tomorrow but will have the characters in by late tomorrow, I mostly have background things to work on and some fleshing out.

Kdyami

I'm virtually done with my character.  But I've got a pretty easy concept.  So any one needing help or waiting longer, I'm glad to help with what I can and wait for what I cant. :)   
Hey all I'm property of the U.S government and as such I may randomly disappear for a day or two.  I apologize in advance but I'll get back to you ASAP

Sahariel

Are you still looking for players? I have read the Dark elf Trilogy, Legacy, Starless Night, and Daughter of the Drow.

RubySlippers

Heads up on the Master character a GM in my long running game as a player on rpol is backing out and I am taking over so won't have time for another character here, so will send in my rogue and be foregoing the other role. So I will send my rogue in later and consider the Master slot freed up I can't make that kind of higher commitment.

sleepingferret

Quote from: RubySlippers on April 02, 2014, 06:53:16 AM
Heads up on the Master character a GM in my long running game as a player on rpol is backing out and I am taking over so won't have time for another character here, so will send in my rogue and be foregoing the other role. So I will send my rogue in later and consider the Master slot freed up I can't make that kind of higher commitment.

Ok so that's a yes for the rogue still, but no for the Master of Sorcere, correct?

RubySlippers

Quote from: sleepingferret on April 02, 2014, 12:33:11 PM
Ok so that's a yes for the rogue still, but no for the Master of Sorcere, correct?

Yes the game I'm co-gm for has over 10k posts and we both need to run it to keep it going, so can't commit to a major second character. Plus I have my other game to run here. But will run my rogue she just needs an avatar and some touch ups, with the fighter feat progression option and the intended prestige class she is going to be cool.

sleepingferret

Quote from: Sahariel on April 02, 2014, 06:10:16 AM
Are you still looking for players? I have read the Dark elf Trilogy, Legacy, Starless Night, and Daughter of the Drow.

Seems we have possibly one at least one original of my applicants having not responding nor submitted anything to either myself or my Co-DM so, sure.  Please review the thread for some Q&A players have had, especailly some of the earlier pages.  As well as review the rules and character creation rules in my initial post, if you have interest in playing one of the still open Master roles please send a PM to me directly for further details.

Snake

I'm not 100% done with my backstory as I worked out the important parts with the DM's but I'll have somethin done by the time we start.

I don't want to try something to crazy. I may have my char be a secondboy for Freth unless there's a canon char already listed for it somehwere.

sleepingferret

House Freth I don't think was really detailed a great much....and in any case, with it being a non-number House, doing a little bit of "editing" to the house structure won't hurt anything.

Zaer Darkwail

#117
There is still room for this? I am shocked I had missed this  :o

I can throw a charsheet tomorrow for 3th level noble born wizard.

Quote from: sleepingferret on March 31, 2014, 07:35:59 PM
Just a quick "sales" pitch.... still two Master slots available, if anyone is interested.  Current players or new parties welcome, so tell your friends!

*raises hand*

But I had also interest to make master of melee magether and have question would weaponmaster PrC allowed from 3.0 supplement; Sword and Fist? Also I see one swordsage among PC cast so tome of battle is possible source allowed for melee magether master?

Edit; I may have other ideas also lurking about like Beguiler (not sure where he would be send; he is very roguish but has very strong arcane talents in illusion and enchantment), bard also has passed the mind and so has Soulknife (from the psionic house). Also idea play female drow who is warlock 1/cleric of lolth 2 (aiming for eldrict discipline PrC).

sleepingferret

#118
Master character "applications" or discussion please send to me.  The weapon master PrC from the Sword and Fist would be fine since it had no revision if you had the required prerequisites.

All other classes and such just have to make "sense" in some way for their school.

I will only accept applicants for Masters or maybe a one or two students at this point, and our character completion date remains the same.  So keep that in mind.  Please read thru the thread for Q&A first and then see myself and Ghostwheel.

Thanks.

sleepingferret

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EDITED: 4/3 @ approx. 12:15 AM PST/2:15 AM PST/3:15 AM EST

Student character applications CLOSED.

Will still take 1 player to play an instructor character of Arach-Tinilith.  Specific requirements of said character are the following:

Character must be female and must be primarily a Cleric of Lolth.  Please PM me for more specific details if interested, as there are some Character Creation Rules differences for Master characters. 

Zaer Darkwail

Did this close up include my female student at Arach-Tinilith?

DinaFlower


sleepingferret

Quote from: Zaer Darkwail on April 03, 2014, 02:44:16 AM
Did this close up include my female student at Arach-Tinilith?

Your female student is fine Zaer.

sleepingferret

Quote from: DinaFlower on April 03, 2014, 02:52:06 AM
Is this full now?

I'm sorry Dina, but for now I'm closing space for any additional student characters right now.  At this point unless someone would like to play the female cleric of Lolth that would be an instructor at the Academy, then it is full for now.

Depending on how the game plays out, I may allow additional players to join.

RubySlippers

I was ill last night, foot pain, and on good meds so was kind of out of it. I will get my rogue in today.

sleepingferret

Quote from: RubySlippers on April 03, 2014, 07:54:27 AM
I was ill last night, foot pain, and on good meds so was kind of out of it. I will get my rogue in today.

Health and other life matters first.  Hope you feel better.

RubySlippers

Damned diabetes it can't be helped when there is nerve damage at least I only get spells.

Blinkin

I've told you Ruby, gem shoes aren't good for your arches. ;)

Hope that you feel better soon.
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DinaFlower

Quote from: sleepingferret on April 03, 2014, 03:21:36 AM
I'm sorry Dina, but for now I'm closing space for any additional student characters right now.  At this point unless someone would like to play the female cleric of Lolth that would be an instructor at the Academy, then it is full for now.

Depending on how the game plays out, I may allow additional players to join.

Okay. Thank you very much.

Blinkin

A half-dragon?? How do you get a half-dragon drow who survives birth and get into the academy?
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Ghostwheel

By having a convoluted backstory that I won't spoil if the player doesn't want it spoiled. Just know that his house willingly made some dealings that... most wouldn't wish on their worst enemy in an environment like Menzoberranzan.

Muse

  Half deep-dragon perhaps?  One of their alternate forms is a drow. *Shrugs* 
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sleepingferret

Please send me and Ghost your character sheets tonight if possible, there shouldn't be any combat.  At least I don't plan on any right at the moment for right now, so that gives you some extra time if you need some for combat based stats.  But other stats, such as skills and such may be needed, if you engage in such activities.

Since I'm more concern about the RP aspect, unless it is an extremely difficult, something new your character has never done before, etc, or such for skill rolls to keep skill rolls and out of the way and in the background, let's say you use the "taking 10" rule and therefore the game will continue to be more RP focused.

However, I will be working on getting up the opening story thread, throughout the day.  I will post also post the official OOC thread as well, when the opening is completed.

RubySlippers

I'm kind of stuck on equipment that is a lot of gold and she doesn't need much at this point.

I picked up a set of masterwork thieves tools. But she got so much good stuff from the GM there is little else to get. I put 1000 gold for a trip when done with school to join a Vhaeraunian surface community with an attached arrange marriage to a loyal member of the faith. Female devotees are rare enough to make her an asset as a spouse I figure.

That leaves 400 gold and well am kind of stuck I might drop it on a wardrobe of common clothes and cosmetics with chest and good lock and leave it at that.

sleepingferret

Starting gold is yours.... you may keep the gold or spend it.  It is entirely up to you.

sleepingferret

I do believe I have everything........... I hope..

Anyways, here is the Rules, Character Listing, and OOC Thread...

https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=200773.0

I do believe about the only thing that we haven't gone over so far in great detail so far, is the die rolling bit, and I also put in a bit about clothing, since drow society has a different nature and view point than other societies on the matter.


Sahariel

I have been a bit swamped the last two days but I am working on my sheet and will have it in no later than tomorrow evening.

I am thinking of playing a male fighter from House Xorlarrin.

Ghostwheel

Quote from: Sahariel on April 04, 2014, 09:32:04 PM
I have been a bit swamped the last two days but I am working on my sheet and will have it in no later than tomorrow evening.

I am thinking of playing a male fighter from House Xorlarrin.

Quote from: sleepingferret on April 03, 2014, 03:21:36 AM
...for now I'm closing space for any additional student characters right now.  At this point unless someone would like to play the female cleric of Lolth that would be an instructor at the Academy, then it is full for now.

Depending on how the game plays out, I may allow additional players to join.

Sorry about that.

sleepingferret

I've talked with him Ghost, he's playing our last instructor.


ererruz

So if I understand correctly, the Priestess instructor is also already taken?

Zaer Darkwail

Yeah, no spots open at this time sadly. Unless we get lots drop outs.

Anyways folks who got accepted; post in OOC and post also in IC! Name counting has already started for melee magether players.