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Acid Lips



I was wondering who would play this game, I mean this game comes out in two days and was wondering if people would like to form a group to play online.

Aiden

I would eventually but I plan on playing the story mode first and playing the custom games in between...I'll get into competitive play after that.

Vekseid

Ditto!

Also have some programming for E here I need to be doing >_>

Acid Lips

Hiya Vek. I know everybody has stuff to deal with real life. I was thinking more of forming a team online and simply gaming together, what do you people think?. I am very good with all three races, although I am faster with Zerg. Protoss is the race I go to for games where you get your army ready and Terran when I feel like blowing stuff up

Aiden

Quote from: Acid Lips on July 25, 2010, 07:03:32 PM
I am very good with all three races, although I am faster with Zerg. Protoss is the race I go to for games where you get your army ready and Terran when I feel like blowing stuff up

That is like the hottest thing I have heard a female on E say...

Vekseid

I'd be up for it : )

It's been a long time since I played Starcraft. I tended to play Terran when I did, though I never tried ladder play. I never bothered calculating my actions per minute. Hrm.

Acid Lips

lol thanks Aiden

And Vek, is not really that hard to do. You just need to try and figure out the perfect strategy to build your army fast and what to build that is all. ^^

Aiden

You can pre install it, if you have a battle.net account.

SO you get your key, hard copy or DL from the store on release...and you can hope right into the game!

Acid Lips

I need to first find out if some money I been waiting on arrives. If they do I will go buy it

Zero

If you guys ever want tips, I play Plat and actually my workplace has Tuesday off since they know none of the dev team is going to come into work.

I will be WYRM on B.net if anyone wants to add me.
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Noelle

Guhhh still need to brush up on Terran strat and get back to it. I usually play Zerg, but I'm not sure I like how they got nerfed in beta...maybe I'll give them another go in story mode or some such.

NEED EVOLVES SO BAD :( SC2 Evolves games must be epic or eelllse.

I should really nerd out and start making fanart, too.

Aiden

#11
Quote from: Noelle on July 26, 2010, 01:54:14 AM


I should really nerd out and start making fanart, too.


You got my attention! If you have sample work I'd like to see it, I have been wanting to commission some custom stuff.


PS

/sad face

Acid Lips

LOL oh god that was so funny

Paladin

I'll play but it won't be for a month or two.

Wolfy

I might pick it up..but not for a month or so...I have to get my new computer first. o3o

Also, is it free to play?..I heard a rumor about blizzard making it a subscription service?

Noelle

Quote from: Aiden on July 26, 2010, 02:07:20 AM

You got my attention! If you have sample work I'd like to see it, I have been wanting to commission some custom stuff.


PS

/sad face

My copy arrives tomorrow, yeaaaaah! Just need to be able to buy more RAM soon D:

I keep my art on DeviantArt, and here on E, as well. :>

Ryven

Trying to decide if I want to play or not.  My interest in RTS has waned in the past couple of years.

Paradox

I'll pick it up eventually, but I've never been much for multiplayer; still, I may give it a shot if y'all get a group together.


"More than ever, the creation of the ridiculous is almost impossible because of the competition it receives from reality."-Robert A. Baker

Aiden

#18
I'm gonna pick  mine up today. fuck midnight releases!



Noelle

Guhhh D: Mine got shipped to the wrong address since I moved after I ordered, I'll have to have my dad open it up and gimme the serial so I can just download and go. NEED MOAR SC2 IN MY LIFE.

Aiden

#20
My special edition came with 2 (1) guest passes for 7 hours of game time, if someone wants to try it (and isnt planning on buying it) PM and I'll give them out (first come first serve).

Drake Valentine

I already picked my reserved up from Gamestop, best thing so far that has happen for me this week.

"When I'm Done With You, You'll Be a:
Raped, Bloody, And Humiliated, Little Alice in Wonderland."

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Aiden

It's freaking awesome, I am really digging the story mode.

Zero

Yeah, I'm just doing them all on brutal...

It's annoying that a lot of the achievements force you to sit through some of the missions on Normal or Hard. =/, like I'll complete missions 100% but then I have to sit through them on Normal or Hard. At that point I'll have some 200/200 army and wipe out whole map before sitting around waiting for the mission to end.
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Larkin86

Story mode is the best option to play this game, at least when you start it.

Paladin

Yea I played it ona friends computer and Zergling/SCV Rush is still possible. Samn game with same problems, only better graphics. Meh.

Callie Del Noire

I LOVE some of the missions. 'The Dig' for instance.. ROCKS hard.


Noelle

Quote from: Paladin on July 28, 2010, 04:22:53 PM
Yea I played it ona friends computer and Zergling/SCV Rush is still possible. Samn game with same problems, only better graphics. Meh.

This is pretty much bullshit, hahaha. They happen, they're possible, but you don't see it when you get away from the dipshits in the lower ranks. The game has been greatly changed, I would hardly boil it down to "same game, different graphics", especially if you've only played it once. There's a TON more micromanaging involved, I feel like it put a greater emphasis on strategy than just massing.

Callie Del Noire

Zerg Rush? Meh.. wait.. and have a THOR RUSH!

100 Arnies yelling as you set them loose on the world!

Aiden

Quote from: Paladin on July 28, 2010, 04:22:53 PM
Yea I played it ona friends computer and Zergling/SCV Rush is still possible. Samn game with same problems, only better graphics. Meh.

Why do you always come to game threads and shit on peoples parades? It is like you are purposely seeking someone to call you out on being such a dick. GTFO.


back on track-

Story mode has been amazing, after every mission I need to go click on everyone.
Merc compound is the best shit ever!

Paladin

Quote from: Aiden on July 28, 2010, 06:54:21 PM
Why do you always come to game threads and shit on peoples parades? It is like you are purposely seeking someone to call you out on being such a dick. GTFO.


back on track-

Story mode has been amazing, after every mission I need to go click on everyone.
Merc compound is the best shit ever!

This is a thread all about starcraft. 'm telling the bad and the good. Positively thats the only thing I can find wrong. Its what I hated about the first game, and I hate it about this one.

BTW if I'm a Dick then you sir are a Complete Ass. Have a nice day.

Callie Del Noire

Quote from: Aiden on July 28, 2010, 06:54:21 PM

Story mode has been amazing, after every mission I need to go click on everyone.
Merc compound is the best shit ever!

I'm holding judgement on that till I get the top end of my protoss research.  I suspect the drop pods MIGHT top them.. but as of now..

HELL yeah.. still trying to find the last two units to hire out.

Aiden

Quote from: Callie Del Noire on July 28, 2010, 07:01:42 PM
I'm holding judgement on that till I get the top end of my protoss research.  I suspect the drop pods MIGHT top them.. but as of now..

HELL yeah.. still trying to find the last two units to hire out.

Yea my research just got me the predator for zerg and the supply depot orbital drop (which is the shit!) so I have a little more to go.
What do you get after siege tank? Since I think I have 3 still locked out.
I don't know how drop pods might work...since you can only drop in two marines at a time right?
Wasn't the tech tree either the tech lab+ reactor combo or the barracks unit drop?
If I can have both and drop in two fire bats at a time I would be happy.

Quote from: Paladin on July 28, 2010, 07:00:37 PM
This is a thread all about starcraft. 'm telling the bad and the good. Positively thats the only thing I can find wrong. Its what I hated about the first game, and I hate it about this one.


No, if you would have shared the bad you would have gone into detail not your apathetic shrug of the game before blowing it off. Just keep your mouth shut next time or go complain in the bad and ugly.

Remiel

Quote from: Zero on July 28, 2010, 04:47:11 AM
Yeah, I'm just doing them all on brutal...

It's annoying that a lot of the achievements force you to sit through some of the missions on Normal or Hard. =/, like I'll complete missions 100% but then I have to sit through them on Normal or Hard. At that point I'll have some 200/200 army and wipe out whole map before sitting around waiting for the mission to end.

Actually, you can pick up all the achievements on one play through, assuming you meet all the criteria (i.e. don't scrap or lose a building, AND wipe out four hatcheries on Brutal.)  You don't need to play it on Medium or Hard at all if you're just that l33t.

Of course, being a n00b, I have to play each scenario several times to pick up the achievements... =(

Paladin

Quote from: Aiden on July 28, 2010, 07:08:09 PM
No, if you would have shared the bad you would have gone into detail not your apathetic shrug of the game before blowing it off. Just keep your mouth shut next time or go complain in the bad and ugly.

You know wahts great? Your not someone in charge so I don't have to listen to you one bit man. I have every right to say I'm not impressed by the game. I was expecting waaaaay more from it since its taken so long.

Remiel

All right, all right, guys, cool it, please.


Anyway,, my favorite quote so far (from the SCV):

"My cousin Lester saw a Zergling once."  ;D

Callie Del Noire

I love the commericals...like

"LEVEL 800 ELITE TAUREN CHEIFTAN!"

Aiden

Quote from: Paladin on July 28, 2010, 07:13:06 PM
You know wahts great? Your not someone in charge so I don't have to listen to you one bit man. I have every right to say I'm not impressed by the game. I was expecting waaaaay more from it since its taken so long.

Whatever no, no one cares, you are just going to emo out about everything anyway.

-back on topic-
I really like all the characters and they way their personalities interact with one another. Tychus was so awesome in "Heaven's Devils", it's awesome to see him on the Hyperion.

Fucking achievements piss me off, I am not looking forward to replaying those missions on Brutal. I don't plan on playing multi-player very much so it annoys me that I can not get the better looking avatars for when you are in game.

The Sign
"Do not shoot at Screen"
Always makes me chuckle when I return to the Cantina.

Mithlomwen

#38
Going to lock this for a bit to give things a chance to cool down.
Baby, it's all I know,
that your half of the flesh and blood that makes me whole...

Mithlomwen

Alright, I think things have had a chance to cool down now, so I've unlocked the thread.   Play nice. 

Baby, it's all I know,
that your half of the flesh and blood that makes me whole...

Hemingway

Story is a bit underwhelming so far - so much potential, but there's a lot of Blizzard in it. Like evil cultist Protoss ( so it's okay to kill them! ). Zerg are better - the mission where you have to defend yourself at night and burn buildings during the day was amazing. Until I sent out my crack team of marines and just started burning things at night. Because they were that awesome. And also I'm playing on normal because I suck.

All in all, it's a good game. I'm not disappointed per se - I expected exactly this. And the gameplay is amazing, with some really neat units.

Vikings and Spectres are the bomb.

Aiden

The later missions get way better!

One of my favorites was the volcano planet, when you get to it you'll know!

I had a loregasm after a video of something on the Hyperion going dark...*not going to spoil it*
But I also think that is because I read the Trilogy that was written that occurred between the two games.

Hemingway

Volcano? If you mean the one Tosh has you go to, that's way early! As for the corridor going dark ... eh, that whole thing seems a bit unnecessary to me. And everything that happens after that - at least as far as I've gotten ( done quite a few of those missions, think I'm on the last one ), are just ... so predictable. But, like I said, I didn't expect anything else from Blizzard.

Aiden

I'm digging the story, what did you expect? It's not like Raynor has the resources to completely over turn the Dominion so he does end up on the fringe worlds and does what he can.

Hemingway

I think I'm coming across as harsher than I intend. It's just that the story - as far as the Zerg and Protoss and Xel'naga are concerned - is very predictable. Blizzard's stories tend to go like this - you killed some great evil, but then something new emerges that's just ten times as bad. Seems they have a similar theme going here, and I guess that's just continuing the story from the first game, but still ... I saw it coming a mile away. But really, it's the small things that bother me. Like the Protoss being evil cultist Protoss. It's just ... ugh. Whyyyyy? It's so pointless, and there's no story to them or anything. They're just props.

Aiden

Quote from: Hemingway on July 29, 2010, 01:35:11 PM
I think I'm coming across as harsher than I intend. It's just that the story - as far as the Zerg and Protoss and Xel'naga are concerned - is very predictable. Blizzard's stories tend to go like this - you killed some great evil, but then something new emerges that's just ten times as bad. Seems they have a similar theme going here, and I guess that's just continuing the story from the first game, but still ... I saw it coming a mile away. But really, it's the small things that bother me. Like the Protoss being evil cultist Protoss. It's just ... ugh. Whyyyyy? It's so pointless, and there's no story to them or anything. They're just props.

Read the Dark Templar Saga, it is all explained in that book.

Hemingway

Quote from: Aiden on July 29, 2010, 02:56:24 PM
Read the Dark Templar Saga, it is all explained in that book.

I'm not going to read anything by Christie Golden. If she had anything to do with the story, that explains everything.

Aiden

I am pretty sure Golden had nothing to do with the actual story plot of the game, that all goes through Metzen I am sure, but it fills in the gap of what happens and I actually enjoy her books.

Granted it is nothing like Dietz or McNeill and there books on the series, but I enjoyed it none the less.
("Heaven's Devils" and "I,Mengsk" were amazing "can't put down" books in my own opinion.)

Remiel

Okay, am I the only one who spent 2 hours last night playing "the Lost Viking?"

Damn you, Robotron! Why won't you like me!?!

Hemingway

YOU, MIGHTY VIKING, ARE LOST.

Is that text referencing something, like Zero Wing? Stupid question. All Blizzard jokes reference something. Some of them are pretty clever!

Gahh. I have another question, though - why does every single mission have to have some kind of time limit? The length of a game is important to me, and nothing limits that like time limits. I hate you, time limits!

Aiden

Quote from: Hemingway on July 29, 2010, 05:00:08 PM
YOU, MIGHTY VIKING, ARE LOST.

Is that text referencing something, like Zero Wing? Stupid question. All Blizzard jokes reference something. Some of them are pretty clever!

Gahh. I have another question, though - why does every single mission have to have some kind of time limit? The length of a game is important to me, and nothing limits that like time limits. I hate you, time limits!

Lost vikings was Blizzard's very first game.

Remiel- Ya...I played it for a very long time...I love those style games. I was looking to buy Raiden the other day for XBox or ps3 and came up empty handed.

Hemingway

Quote from: Aiden on July 29, 2010, 11:52:10 PM
Lost vikings was Blizzard's very first game.

Remiel- Ya...I played it for a very long time...I love those style games. I was looking to buy Raiden the other day for XBox or ps3 and came up empty handed.

I mean the intro text. I know the Lost Vikings. Viking references them too. ; )

RubySlippers

Quote from: Acid Lips on July 25, 2010, 04:41:04 PM

I was wondering who would play this game, I mean this game comes out in two days and was wondering if people would like to form a group to play online.

Well three things are preventing me from this:

1. Old Computer: Mine is Windows XP and I won't get a new one until later this year.

2. Cost: $60.00 is steep I bought the original game with Brood War and guidebooks for $20.00 but that is not the biggest reason of the three ...

3. It requires a BROADBAND internet connection and I have dial-up with a free accelerator so even if I had the computer and wanted to ante up the $60 that would make it mute for the main reason I own games is to play on-line. And I can only afford around $10 a month for internet. So do alot of people on very modest incomes. So they just won't get my business this time.

Remiel

So far, I'm enjoying the hell out of the campaign.  I've done only a couple of multiplayer co-op battles with my friends, but I love the progression of the single-player mode in terms of story, character interaction, upgrades, special units, mercenaries, the cinematics... yes.

As far as I'm concerned, it was definitely worth the wait.  Probably the best game of 2010.

Noelle

I'm beating my head against the wall. I ordered my SC2 on May 1st, have been waiting and waiting, only to have UPS mark my package as 'delivered', and it not showing up :( /killself

Aiden

Aww that sucks! Kill them all!

Kineas

Was there still interest in forming up a group for online play?

Cause I am SO in on that if so. :3

Aiden


Acid Lips

so doing a char sheet there

Aiden

-subliminal- There is nothing sexier than the chemistry between a medic and a firebat /-subliminal-   XD

Acid Lips

lol ^^, yea wanted to be a ghost but did not knew if the owner would accept another one so I made a medic

Aiden

Medic are always in demand, I am going to need more stim pack injections.

Acid Lips

*Takes out a huge needle* are you sure?

Aiden


Acid Lips


Aiden

"Ahhhhhhhhhhh yeaaaaaaaa!"

Hemingway

Hrm. The campaign would've been better with a more interesting story and some more twists. It would've been better if all the missions didn't have time limits, too. But the worst part? It teases you with units that aren't available in multiplayer. I mean, goliath, vulture, wraith and so on, I get it, Raynor's Raiders use them and they're outdated. What about Spectres? I want Spectres! Spectres > Ghosts!

I want Vultures, too, though. Seriously, no Vultures, and apparently we get Hellions instead? Pfft. Never used them. Except in the one mission where you get them.

And Firebats! I mean, the ridiculous armor aside, I love them.  I'd gladly give up Marauders for Firebats.

Geeklet

So far, I'm liking it. I was worried that since they were actually releasing each race's campaign as a separate game each, that I'd get it and would feel unsatisfied by only having the terrans this time around (multiplayer excluded), but so far, I feel its been worth the price, and that there is enough content to justify it.

Hemingway

I figured out what's missing. Or one of the things, anyway. A small thing that would, in my opinion, have improved the campaign greatly: where's Raynor? He's missing from about 95% of the missions, even though it's implied he's on the ground with his soldiers. Heck, late in the game ( more on that later! ), there's a cutscene clearly showing him fighting, yet he's absent from the mission. WHY? It makes no sense. And to have Raynor or some other hero leading the attack would've added so much!

Speaking of late in the game, I started the final missions and ... this is what the game is supposed to be like. No bullshit picking your missions, no random missions that feel as though they serve no purpose. Just story, one mission after the other, with tons of action. Protecting your base from CONSTANT Zerg attack? That's what playing against Zerg should feel like.

Geeklet

*small spoiler alert*

I haven't gotten that far in yet, but the final missions you are talking about are anything like the last of Zeratul's missions, which basically said you WILL get wiped out, just do this before you do, then I cannot wait.

Hemingway

#70
Zeratul's missions were ... eh. The last one was just a bore.

Edit: Well, that's that, beat the last mission. I'll be starting the campaign over, I think. I have to admit, I liked the ending. Final three or four missions were the sex. I'm curious to know what the other campaigns will be like, though. Given what happens ( and doesn't happen ) in the Terran campaign.

Remiel

Quote from: Hemingway
I figured out what's missing. Or one of the things, anyway. A small thing that would, in my opinion, have improved the campaign greatly: where's Raynor? He's missing from about 95% of the missions, even though it's implied he's on the ground with his soldiers. Heck, late in the game ( more on that later! ), there's a cutscene clearly showing him fighting, yet he's absent from the mission. WHY? It makes no sense. And to have Raynor or some other hero leading the attack would've added so much!

Well, there is the mission where Tychus Findlay infiltrates the Dominion base and commandeers the Odin weapon...

QuoteSpeaking of late in the game, I started the final missions and ... this is what the game is supposed to be like. No bullshit picking your missions, no random missions that feel as though they serve no purpose. Just story, one mission after the other, with tons of action. Protecting your base from CONSTANT Zerg attack? That's what playing against Zerg should feel like.

See, I actually liked those elements.   I liked how each mission showcased a particular unit, and how that unit's strengths would help you complete the mission.  I mean, let's face it -- would we ever seriously use Hellions or Vultures otherwise? 

Similarly, I did like the "choose your mission" option in the first half of the game -- I felt like a Mission Impossible-type  mercenary-for-hire, alternating between plundering artifacts, rescuing colonists, and doing raids on Dominion bases.    I'm not sure if it was possible to advance the campaign without doing them all, but I'm a sucker for thoroughness, so that's what I did.  I enjoyed the color that Gabriel Tosh and Dr. Hanson brought to the plot, and loved the alternate endings to their story arcs. 

And the upgrades -- oh, sweet mercy, the upgrades.  I think my favorite one was being able to call down a supply depot instantly from orbit.  Generating two SCVs at once was pretty nice too.   The mercenary companies weren't really that useful, but I liked having them as an option.

I agree, though, that Zeratul's missions weren't all that engaging.  It was a nice teaser of the Protoss units, but ultimately there wasn't anything special there.  Also, I felt that they could have done more, plotwise, with the Hybrids other than turning them into the Big Bad Evil. 

Overall, though, I'm still exceedingly pleased.  I really miss having medics in multiplayer (who says you can't make a Marine rush work for you!), but the Vikings and Thors are badass. 

Hemingway

Quote from: Remiel on August 04, 2010, 01:26:01 PM
Well, there is the mission where Tychus Findlay infiltrates the Dominion base and commandeers the Odin weapon...

Heroes are present in, what, three or four missions? In the first game they were in, if not most, at least many of the Terran missions, and others. I just think it would've made the game better. For one thing, it'd make the story, and in particular those missions that didn't contribute to it, that ended up feeling more like multiplayer matches with story, feel like part of the story. And also, Raynor showing up in the cutscene following a mission he didn't take part in make more sense.

QuoteSee, I actually liked those elements.   I liked how each mission showcased a particular unit, and how that unit's strengths would help you complete the mission.  I mean, let's face it -- would we ever seriously use Hellions or Vultures otherwise?

Hellions? No. Because they sucked, mainly. Thing is, it ended up feeling like it was all a really elaborate tutorial, building up to the final missions. There's about half a dozen units I never used outside of the missions in which you were essentially forced to use them. And that, I think, made completing the mission in your own way difficult. At least more so than it would've been.

QuoteSimilarly, I did like the "choose your mission" option in the first half of the game -- I felt like a Mission Impossible-type  mercenary-for-hire, alternating between plundering artifacts, rescuing colonists, and doing raids on Dominion bases.    I'm not sure if it was possible to advance the campaign without doing them all, but I'm a sucker for thoroughness, so that's what I did.  I enjoyed the color that Gabriel Tosh and Dr. Hanson brought to the plot, and loved the alternate endings to their story arcs.

Problem with that is the story was all over the place. For a game titled "Wings of Liberty", there wasn't a whole lot of fighting for liberty. Four missions or so were just the same, collecting artifacts, with no other story to go with them. Rescuing the colonists, while interesting in its own way, didn't advance the story in any way, either. I liked Tosh's mission, but that actually contributed to the story, by setting free political prisoners and all. Also, Spectres rock.

But, yeah, if you compare it to the structure of the first game, there's a lot less actual story, and that bothers the shit out of me. The missions that actually followed a linear story - the first and final three, roughly - were many times better than the others. I hope they drop that in future campaigns, but I somehow think not.

I'm enjoying the hell out of the game, no doubt about it. What bothers me the most is all the wasted potential.

WhiteyChan

Just finished the campaign, thought it was awesome.

I truly and utterly suck at versus, though. Every single tactic I have for every other RTS has been blown completely out of the water xD So far my record is 4 games, 4 losses against Easy AI :-(

Hemingway

Easy? But easy is like ... really easy. How did you beat the campaign ...? xD

I mean, no offense. I suck at strategy games, when it's competetive. I prefer playing at my own pace. But still - it's not that different? Just have to get the economy going strong, and make sure you're always building.

WhiteyChan

Quote from: Hemingway on August 05, 2010, 11:57:06 AM
Easy? But easy is like ... really easy. How did you beat the campaign ...? xD

I mean, no offense. I suck at strategy games, when it's competetive. I prefer playing at my own pace. But still - it's not that different? Just have to get the economy going strong, and make sure you're always building.

I can't micromanage, that's the problem :P I can't build the structures I need whilst at the same time building up an army and also controlling the units I have. Other games allow me to usually focus on just one aspect, and the campaign definitely let me do that, but in versus.... I can't even survive the AI's first rush xD

Hemingway

Quote from: WhiteyChan on August 05, 2010, 12:40:12 PM
I can't micromanage, that's the problem :P I can't build the structures I need whilst at the same time building up an army and also controlling the units I have. Other games allow me to usually focus on just one aspect, and the campaign definitely let me do that, but in versus.... I can't even survive the AI's first rush xD

Your problem is you micromanage too much! Just practice, and you'll get the hang of it. I'm trying to work up the nerve to go online myself. I just know I'll get my ass kicked back into the stone age.

Remiel

#77
Mrmm, build order tends to have something to do with it too.  In the single-player missions, my strategy would always be to crank out as many SCVs as I could, as fast as a I could, and only then concentrate on building an army;  in the multiplayer arena, you have to be prepared for an early rush.  With Terran, I like to go

SCV
SCV
SCV
supply depot
SCV
barracks
SCV
SCV
refinery, etc.

once you have the barracks up, keep cranking out those marines and don't stop.  [Edit]  Then I like to build a second barracks.  Once I have two barracks cranking out marines, then I like to go to siege tanks.  Once I feel reasonably secure that my base is rush-proof, then I look for possible areas to expand.

Geeklet

While I am still going through the campaign, and havent done vs yet, I've heard that there is actually less micro in this version than the original version. Main things I've heard are to constantly be making workers to keep resources coming in so you seldom if ever get the "not enough minerals/we require more vespine gas" and having the buildings you do have constantly churning out units or working on something.

Aiden

Terran Up the Night - Starcraft 2

Don't watch if you have not beat the game...has possible spoiler vid clips.

mannik

If people are still getting groups together to play online, I'm down....though I'm using my dad's account at the moment until I can pick up my own copy of the game (Kinda hard considering I don't have a job or money at the moment.)

Screen name: SirFartzalot

My dad only plays offline, so it will most likey be me if you see this screen name online.

Dunnuck

Quote from: WhiteyChan on August 05, 2010, 12:40:12 PM
I can't micromanage, that's the problem :P I can't build the structures I need whilst at the same time building up an army and also controlling the units I have. Other games allow me to usually focus on just one aspect, and the campaign definitely let me do that, but in versus.... I can't even survive the AI's first rush xD

:O! ME TOO!!! i thought i was the only one...

Kineas

Quote from: mannik on August 05, 2010, 11:59:38 PM
If people are still getting groups together to play online, I'm down....though I'm using my dad's account at the moment until I can pick up my own copy of the game (Kinda hard considering I don't have a job or money at the moment.)

Screen name: SirFartzalot

My dad only plays offline, so it will most likey be me if you see this screen name online.

You gotta post your friend ID number thingy. Took me forever to find the stupid thing, but if you click the friends icon in the lower right of the main screen, it's in super small font in the upper right of the add friends box (if i recall correctly.) My screen name is Azure, and my number thing is 646. Add meh!

mannik

Oops....ok, I think mine's 414. And it wasn't from the friends box, I had to hover the mouse cursor over my profile picture.

also, I'm in the bronze league in case that matters.

Quote from: WhiteyChan on August 05, 2010, 12:40:12 PM
I can't micromanage, that's the problem :P I can't build the structures I need whilst at the same time building up an army and also controlling the units I have. Other games allow me to usually focus on just one aspect, and the campaign definitely let me do that, but in versus.... I can't even survive the AI's first rush xD
Quote from: Dunnuck on August 06, 2010, 01:30:32 AM
:O! ME TOO!!! i thought i was the only one...

The trick is knowing the short cuts....like the shift key. I LOVE the shift key. (Hold shift and execute an order, and it is added to the queue so you could have them move on a specific path, build buildings in a certain order, or my favorite, build a building then get back to work mining as soon as its done.)

Also, double click or ctrl + click to select all of a certain type of unit currently on screen, shift + select a unit adds it to the current selection and ctrl + number key creates a command group from the current selection which makes it easier to issue commands to your units in the midsts of battle because all you need to do to select them is press the corrisponding number key. You can also make a command group from buildings so you can build units without having to move the camera back to your base.

also, don't forget rally points (Right click with a unit producing building) This makes any newly trained unit go directly to the rally point, so you can mass an army at your entrance a bit easier, or move to reinforce your units in the field. Also, from your main building, if you set the rally point on a mineral or refinery when the builder is made they get right to work without needing to be told what to do. Can save precious seconds.

Hope that helps you micro manage your vast army of destruction!

Kineas

Oosh, you won't really wanna play -against- me then, i just finally finished my preliminaries and I got placed in platinum ;3  However, yeah, feel free to add me and maybe I'll help you improve a bit =D

Good advice-ing all around. I usually find that if someone's having too much trouble, they don't have enough workers gathering resources.

mannik

Quote from: Kineas on August 07, 2010, 01:45:17 AM
Oosh, you won't really wanna play -against- me then, i just finally finished my preliminaries and I got placed in platinum ;3  However, yeah, feel free to add me and maybe I'll help you improve a bit =D

Good advice-ing all around. I usually find that if someone's having too much trouble, they don't have enough workers gathering resources.

You know, its funny but when I play a quick match, 9 times out of 10 I'm against someone in the gold or platinum league.....makes getting that zealot face (10 1v1 victories as protoss) a lot harder than it needs to be. But when it does stick me against another bronze leaguer I usually wipe the floor with them.....they don't know how to defend against a fleet of carriers so good.

And I was trying to give advice on micro managing specifically. Not having enough workers really isn't a problem with micro managing, but rather just not investing enough resources into a strong economy.....or someone managed to sneak a dark templar into your mineral fields....

which brings me to my next gameplay hint. PROTECT YOUR DAMNED WORKERS!!! They are usually the first target in a rush and the last thing you want to do is spend thousands of minerals and several minutes rebuilding your economy while your opponent continues to amass his forces by the dozens.

WhiteyChan

Well, looks like my problem was not enough resources :P My friend code thingie is 265, if anyone wants to add me and help me further my improvement :D

mannik

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Quote from: WhiteyChan on August 10, 2010, 12:08:44 PM
Well, looks like my problem was not enough resources :P My friend code thingie is 265, if anyone wants to add me and help me further my improvement :D

Sure, I'll add you. We can do a few Co-op games against the computer so you can work on your build order and speed.

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Kinda need screen name AND character code....

WhiteyChan


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