(NCE System) Legend of the Five Rings: Why so serious?

[Muse]

  Legend of the Five Rings is one of the most amazing roll playing settings I've ever encountered, a fantasy game inspired at it's heart--not by Arthur or Charlemaing--but Masamune and Jubei. 

  It creates a fantasy playground both beautiful and exotic, with equal opertunities for courtly intruige, mortal war, detective work, and horible wars against inhuman oni.  Not to mention fantasy races far more exotic than any dwarf or hobbit.  And it's filled with primers for us poor western folk for how to talk and act like a samurai! 

  So why, I ask you, do I, when expressing interest in gaming in a world where samurai guard a great wall on a vast continent, attract authentic historical roll playing Nazis like flies? 

  And so I come in my defiance to you, precious elliquieans, in search of 7 Lecherous Samurai and/or a few damsels who would not bend knee to the Oni no matter how their blossoms dripped. 

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Okay, if you bore with me through the above rant, please understand it's not my intention to run a farce or L5R orgy game.  I just think inserting a healthy dose of E into a solid Legend of the Five Rings game will help keep me from taking myself too seriously.  Plus it's fun! 

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This story still needs a little work, but in general, I have the impression that a province close to the dragonwall is falling into disorder.  For whatever reason, the Emperor sends in a small group to investigate the source of the issues and re-establish order before the situation degrades into a war in a province where the shadowlands could easily take advantage of that weakness. 

Unfortunately the bureaucrat assigned to gather the group and sassing them had a difrent agenda, and he selected a mish mash of magistraits, monks and shugenja with a reputation for their leachery, and backed them up with a number of virgin samurai women. 

With a crafty Oni general rallying forces while fomenting unrest among the naga, and the imperial agents looking into this catastrophe too busy rooting out the plots they get wind of, Rokugan's only hope may be the misfits that were chosen to doom it. 

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What do you think folks? 

[HairyHeretic]

Could be amusing. You thinking of 3rd ed rules or what?

[Ty]

I've yet to have a chance to play L5R, though I've 2nd and 3rd Rev. books lying about. I'm not quite sure what character I'd play, but I'd certainly be up for trying this.

It'd also be my first system RP on E (though not otherwise), so please bear with me if I end up messing up the dicebot the first time or two.

[HairyHeretic]

I'd probably go Scorpion myself. Maybe a Bayushi bushi magistrate. Have him get a few ranks in Hojōjutsu for its many uses ;)

[Paladin]

I call Dragon Mirumoto Bushi but I won't be playing a Lecherous Bastard either. I'm not too keen on playing lechers.

[Paladin]

I've yet to have a chance to play L5R, though I've 2nd and 3rd Rev. books lying about. I'm not quite sure what character I'd play, but I'd certainly be up for trying this.

It'd also be my first system RP on E (though not otherwise), so please bear with me if I end up messing up the dicebot the first time or two.

Umm Ty, You say 3rd rev. Umm By 3rd Muse means the True 3rd ed of L5R wich came out a year or two ago. Its not the D20 version but goes back to 2nd ed roots and is D10 again. I hate the D20 version of L5R it really messed things up. So much I gave my D20 version away 2 days after I bought it.

[Ty]

I mean the revised version of 3rd with the d10s. With Horses in.

[HairyHeretic]

I think Muse only said system. I'm hoping its the 3rd ed d10 version, as I've no real interest in playing the d20 version either.

[Paladin]

I mean the revised version of 3rd with the d10s. With Horses in.

ahh ok. Good man.

[LordAnubis]

I've got a couple of ideas for the game as well.  What rank did you intend people to start at?  1?  Just curious because it shifts my ideas a bit.

[Paladin]

I have a Legal Rank 2 Character thats was built that way. You gotta read the book really well but its Legal.

[LordAnubis]

Yes, I've got the books and can build the characters, but building a rank 2 character when he wants us to be rank 1 or rank three changes things.

Just want to know what rank he is looking for us to be before I start going through my books and deciding what I want to play.

[Pumpkin Seeds]

I am not too familiar with the setting as of 3rd edition, but I'll play if allowed.

[HairyHeretic]

The setting is the same, more or less. It depends where in the timeline that its being placed. I prefer pre Clan War myself, with the Hantei still on the throne.

[Pumpkin Seeds]

I would perfer that as well.  One of my problems with AEG has always been they take the storyline and make such drastic changes so suddenly.

[HairyHeretic]

Thats the problem with letting the card game dictate the storyline. You have to come up with something that reflects who won, and sometimes the nature of the deck they were playing.

[Pumpkin Seeds]

They do the same thing with 7th Sea though.  Though that one I got aggravated about cause they decided to make it more Eastern as well.

[HairyHeretic]

Wouldn't know. I tend to play mostly Vestens, and occasional Inish / Highlanders. :)

[Paladin]

Yes, I've got the books and can build the characters, but building a rank 2 character when he wants us to be rank 1 or rank three changes things.

Just want to know what rank he is looking for us to be before I start going through my books and deciding what I want to play.

Ok thats just it. Characters are built on points. Rank is determined entirely by insight Anubis.

[LordAnubis]

Yes, I am aware.  I've run and played in the games before.

However, the points you get are based on the rank level the game master runs.   Hence the title of the section being Advanced characters.

Hence me asking Muse what level he wanted the character, because the pacing on E usually means your going to be the rank you start at unless a miracle happens, so I don't want to start picking an idea because X would be a good idea if I won't ever make it to X.

I can understand your being helpful Paladin, but baring Muse having sent you a PM the only answer to my question is going to come from Muse.  It isn't a misunderstanding of the game, it is an inquiery as to the power level he wants for the game he is intending on running.

[Paladin]

Actually Anubis I have Muse on YIM and am talking to him now.

[Muse]

Okay, folks, I have to go for a while here. 

My book says Legend of the Five Rings Roll playing Game Third Edition REVISEd on the cover.  Paladin and I just caught that. 

We're starting with 125 EXP, and insight rank not to exceed 3.  (Be versatile.)

And do be sure and put SOMETHING a bit E in your charecter. 

[LordAnubis]

Working on a Shinobi with intresting weapon choice.

[HairyHeretic]

Can I check something? Do you mean build a normal rank 1 character and then add 125 XP on top of that?

Also, are you allowing anything outside of the core rulebook? I have all the books bar Fealty and Freedom.

Also, are you familiar with the Musha Shugyo fanzine? There is some very useful stuff in there, some of which I'd like to use, if you're ok with that. Yay / Nay or case by case basis?

[Ty]

I am playing with various ideas atm. But the main one is for a female bushi.

As this is a "Why so serious?" game, part of the theory of the character is that the crafting of sexual toys is a High Skill (Artisan?). Even if it's one you can only boast about if you are you good with innuendo. Or drunk.

This is, perhaps obviously, because this is a speciality of the character's family. I was thinking either Lion or Crab. Crab seems to fit particularly well as lonely watches on the Wall, and also a handy place to keep that jade.

The twist comes that she has inherited an heirloom, a hefty ornate dildo that tradition states any spouse of the owner must be able to take fully into them. A tradition that has done well at ensuring wifes provide the family with big healthy children safely, and has at times made up for less than inspiring performances by the husbands. However, when the owner is female it becomes more difficult. Especially as most men willing to attempt the test are not overly interested in a wife except politically.

It is partially in a search for a spouse that the bushi has been assigned to whatever craziness is bringing the group together rather than serving her clan at home.

Any opinions? Advice?

[Paladin]

Unfortunatly I only have the Non Revised 3rd edition so I don't know if I can play. I called a friend to ask what the diffrence between the two books was and he said it was so small its not even funny. Mind you ths guy is the head of our Living Rokugan staff and answers to AEG directly so I think I can use my book to build. I would only get 95 Xp as opposed to your 125. He said the Result should come out the same. I built the character and yes with 95 XP I did come out with a 3rd level character.

[Muse]

Garg, what was I posting before it disapeared?  (Stupid internet exploder!) 

Okay, hairy, that's correct, you make the level 1 charecter and then raise it with expereince, however it seems that 125 isn't enough unless your charecter is ridiculously specialized.  (I'm a Bushi, I don't need no stinking ettiqutte!) 

So, to review, in a Crab province of no consenseqence, buisness as usual along the Wall keeps the Crab Clan too busy too root out the the source of the increasing numbers of peasent uprisings, but after the second slaughter the Crab didn't have the resources to deal with any other way, a concerend Crab courtier asked the Emperor for intervention. 

The emperor agreed that multiple peasent uprisings were always a concern, and worse in Crab lands where the well being of the Samurai was so vital to all others. 

He went to Kotetsu, a woman he trusted, and asked her to arange for a group to intevene before Crane or Unicorn--or worse, the Oni--took advantage, and she curtsied and aranged for an emerald magistrait named Jurai to lead the group of magistraits she assembled to the province to deal with the issue. 

But... 

What an odd band?  Jurai, a short old man of legendary leachery, and if you paid close attention to the rumor mill, the only ones on the team who didn't have similar stigma somwhere were unmaried women. 

[HairyHeretic]

According to the book, 125 XP on top of a normally created character should take them to rank 3 easily enough.

Muse, any thoughts on the other stuff I asked about? Access to other books, and the unofficial stuff?

Here's an example or two

Low Skills
Deceit
Emphasis: Obiesaseru
Obiesaseru: This Emphasis is a specialized form of intimidation, used
only by members of the Imperial families, the Imperial Guards, or the
Imperial Legions (including Emerald and Jade Magistrates on duty under
the Emerald or Jade Champion). By appealing to the target's belief
that the Imperial Legions are the best-trained samurai in the Empire,
and that the entire Celestial Order stands behind them, a member of
the Imperial House or someone with adequate status can freeze a
samurai in histracks. The Imperial character must successfully make a
Contested Willpower/Deceit (Obiesaseru) vs. the target's Willpower to
freeze it for one round (the target can move and defend normally, but
cannot approach or attack).
Raises can increase the duration or add targets. Against non-Rokugani,
this works the same as Intimidation. You must have a token of Imperial
authority in order to use
Obiesaseru.

Mastery Abilities
Rank 7: You gain a Free Raise for using Obiesaseru.

Rank 10: You may use Obiesaseru without a token of Imperial authority
but doing so increase your TN by 5.

Honor Loss: Obiesaseru does not incur an Honor Loss if used for
legitimate purpose by a member of the Imperial Guards or the Imperial
Legions (including Emerald or Jade Magistrates, as stated above).


Bugei Skill
Defense
Emphases: Spell Evasion, Technique Evasion, Trap Evasion, Yadomejutsu

Spell Evasion: This Emphasis allows avoiding hazards of supernatural
origin. The Emphasis bonus applies whenever rolling to avoid the
effects of spells, kiho, tattoos, and similar abilities (if such a
roll is required). Homebrew

Trap Evasion: This Emphasis allows avoiding mundane hazards and traps.
The Emphasis bonus applies whenever rolling to avoid traps, natural
pitfalls, and similar hazards (if such a roll is required). Homebrew,
inspired by Bearers of Jade p.15 and The Way of Shadow p.109

Yadomejutsu: While in the Full Attack posture, the character can cut
arrows aimed at someone within 10 feet (TN equal the archer's attack
roll). On Full Defense, the character can roll Agility/Defense
(Yadomejutsu) and add to his TN to be hit against all ranged attacks
he is aware of. (Note: Perceptive readers will realize that this is in
fact part of the Technique from the Tsuruchi's Swordsman. If using
Yadomejutsu as a skill instead of a School Technique, simply give the
Tsuruchi Swordsman the benefit of 2 Free Raises on any Yadomejutsu
skill rolls.) Updated from Secrets of the Mantis p.67

[Paladin]

According to the book, 125 XP on top of a normally created character should take them to rank 3 easily enough.

Muse, any thoughts on the other stuff I asked about? Access to other books, and the unofficial stuff?

Indeed it should hairy. I know I built the character using my 3rd ed unrevised (Wich from what I've heard the reviesed edition didn't need to be made. Its AEG looking for mour money) and the 95 points for level 3 is correct. I was 187 for 175. Thats 12 point into the middle of the character. I'm gonna try and see about adjusting that to 175 exactly. I will have to ues my 3rd version and rules as I don't have revised and don't intent to get it but I have it on good authority. (See my post above) That it all still calculates out just as evenly.

[LordAnubis]

The extra beyond the 90 normally for a 3rd level character is because Muse wants to reliably be able to make us rank 4 before the final fight, we figured a range that should be able to get you guys close enough to rank 4 that you can get rank 4 without requiring him to give us tons of XP beyond the norm.

So it would actually behouve you to strech a bit so your close enough you can be rank 4.

And for revised, some of what they gave us was very much needed, but could have done it without a new core book.  Given that their RPG sales are crap, them grabbing for any extra cash might not be a bad thing.

Most of character creation is the same and if your doing Mirumoto Bushi, nothing was changed from editions, so it won't cause you strife.

[Paladin]

The extra beyond the 90 normally for a 3rd level character is because Muse wants to reliably be able to make us rank 4 before the final fight, we figured a range that should be able to get you guys close enough to rank 4 that you can get rank 4 without requiring him to give us tons of XP beyond the norm.

So it would actually behouve you to strech a bit so your close enough you can be rank 4.

And for revised, some of what they gave us was very much needed, but could have done it without a new core book.  Given that their RPG sales are crap, them grabbing for any extra cash might not be a bad thing.

Most of character creation is the same and if your doing Mirumoto Bushi, nothing was changed from editions, so it won't cause you strife.

Yea thats what I was told on the creation. Still Ill stick with 95 points. It got me to 187 wich is only a few points from the 200 that is level 4.

[Muse]

i'm actualy not in a huge hurry to get us to four.  We have game time for that. 

I just wanted some versatility.  maybe i just need to try another test build, and see some of these builds.  i wish i could see a cannon charecter. 

i mean, people keep hissing at me at how political L5R is, doesn't that sugest that a smurai should have some politcal skills? 

[Muse]

According to the book, 125 XP on top of a normally created character should take them to rank 3 easily enough.

Muse, any thoughts on the other stuff I asked about? Access to other books, and the unofficial stuff?

Here's an example or two

Low Skills
Deceit
Emphasis: Obiesaseru
Obiesaseru: This Emphasis is a specialized form of intimidation, used
only by members of the Imperial families, the Imperial Guards, or the
Imperial Legions (including Emerald and Jade Magistrates on duty under
the Emerald or Jade Champion). By appealing to the target's belief
that the Imperial Legions are the best-trained samurai in the Empire,
and that the entire Celestial Order stands behind them, a member of
the Imperial House or someone with adequate status can freeze a
samurai in histracks. The Imperial character must successfully make a
Contested Willpower/Deceit (Obiesaseru) vs. the target's Willpower to
freeze it for one round (the target can move and defend normally, but
cannot approach or attack).
Raises can increase the duration or add targets. Against non-Rokugani,
this works the same as Intimidation. You must have a token of Imperial
authority in order to use
Obiesaseru.

Mastery Abilities
Rank 7: You gain a Free Raise for using Obiesaseru.

Rank 10: You may use Obiesaseru without a token of Imperial authority
but doing so increase your TN by 5.

Honor Loss: Obiesaseru does not incur an Honor Loss if used for
legitimate purpose by a member of the Imperial Guards or the Imperial
Legions (including Emerald or Jade Magistrates, as stated above).


Bugei Skill
Defense
Emphases: Spell Evasion, Technique Evasion, Trap Evasion, Yadomejutsu

Spell Evasion: This Emphasis allows avoiding hazards of supernatural
origin. The Emphasis bonus applies whenever rolling to avoid the
effects of spells, kiho, tattoos, and similar abilities (if such a
roll is required). Homebrew

Trap Evasion: This Emphasis allows avoiding mundane hazards and traps.
The Emphasis bonus applies whenever rolling to avoid traps, natural
pitfalls, and similar hazards (if such a roll is required). Homebrew,
inspired by Bearers of Jade p.15 and The Way of Shadow p.109

Yadomejutsu: While in the Full Attack posture, the character can cut
arrows aimed at someone within 10 feet (TN equal the archer's attack
roll). On Full Defense, the character can roll Agility/Defense
(Yadomejutsu) and add to his TN to be hit against all ranged attacks
he is aware of. (Note: Perceptive readers will realize that this is in
fact part of the Technique from the Tsuruchi's Swordsman. If using
Yadomejutsu as a skill instead of a School Technique, simply give the
Tsuruchi Swordsman the benefit of 2 Free Raises on any Yadomejutsu
skill rolls.) Updated from Secrets of the Mantis p.67

Hairy, I only have right now the core book and creatures of Rokugan.  i like these hat your showing me here, but it's going to be tricky. 

[HairyHeretic]

I have all the books, so if you want something checked, let me know :)

Those came from http://www.musha-shugyo.com/index.php (and their 3rd issue is just out ... must download and check it out). They've taken a lot of stuff from the 1st and 2nd ed books, schools and such like, and updated them to 3rd. If you look at the L5R official forums, the guys there have said this stuff isn't official, but its the next best thing til the official stuff comes around.

[Muse]

Okay, so just a teeny,tiny house rule: 

Players of the 'samurai virgins' gain 5 extra build points.  They allso gain the benefits of the Kharmicly Bound merit with the others.  I prefer we try not to have these girls clan overlap. 

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Other players must buy some sort of amarous or lustful drawback, even if it's True Love and Fascination iwth nagas.  Up to five points of these drawbcks do not count against your maximum of flaws. 

If you'd like special equipment, you may buy it with with extra starting Koku = 1 + Honor + Ranks in Wealth + Station X6

[Paladin]

Okay, so just a teeny,tiny house rule: 

Players of the 'samurai virgins' gain 5 extra build points.  They allso gain the benefits of the Kharmicly Bound merit with the others.  I prefer we try not to have these girls clan overlap. 

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Other players must buy some sort of amarous or lustful drawback, even if it's True Love and Fascination iwth nagas.  Up to five points of these drawbcks do not count against your maximum of flaws. 

If you'd like special equipment, you may buy it with with extra starting Koku = 1 + Honor + Ranks in Wealth + Station X6

So you using my drawbacks at examples, and I take it we can have 15 points worth of drawbacks instead of just ten? I don't quite understand that.

[Muse]

if you can turn True love and fascination with nagas into 5 poitns woth of drawbacks, then yes, you can have fifteen points worth. 

Does that help? 

How about i put it this way, subject to GM review, up to 5 points of drawbacks that make your charecter more suited to the theme of "Why so serious" on E may surpass the normal cap of 10. 

[Muse]

Can anyone offer one of our shyer aplicants link to a particularly comely ilustration of a Crane Samurai-ko Bushi? 

[Pumpkin Seeds]

Well this is probably the one I'd like to use since I was leaning toward the Crane Clan.

[Muse]

this is a 225 EXP build for a crane yojimbo who'e barely level 3.  Could I get some feedback from experienced plyers please? 



Air      4
Earth      3   Stamina 4
Fire      3
Water      2
Void      3/3





Flaws: 
+6   Bad Luck   (2 rerolls against you per game day.) 
+2   Compulsion   (Though overlooked for it's importance as a teacher of tactics, she and her Sensei Takumi were both compulsive lovers of the game of Shogi.) 
+2   Idealistic
+5   Plot Device

Merits: 
2   Ally:  Takumi-sensei:      A shogi-loving master of the Daidoji Yojimbo School is quite fond of his gifted pupil. 

3   Ally: Dodji-   Megumi      Her clanswoman Megumi, a Shugenja (samurai caste practitioner of elemental magic) recently retired from serving the emperor in a military fashion by making a good marriage and reting to tend the estates and serve at court.  Yukiko was her trusted bodyguard for 3 years, and thus she values Yukiko greatly and may be willing to use her new found influence if aproached politely.        

5   Ballance: 

2   Benten's Blessing:      Her Beauty and natural charm give +1/+2 dice to persuade people. 

2   Fleet:            +10' to her speed.   

8   Inheritence: Sacred Tea Set   Recieved from her grandmother after her funeral. 

2   Quick healer         +2 to Stamina for the purposes of healing. 

4   Strength of the Earth:      -10 to Wound Penalties

3   Wealth             +4      



   SKILL: 

Athletics      3

Battle         3   (Skirmish)

Courtier      3

Defense         5   (Armored

Divination      3   (Omens)
   (Her peasent nurse was always looking for omens.) 

Ettiquitte      3

Games: Shogi      5

Iajutsu         3

Investigation      3   (Notice)

Kenjutsu      5   (Katana)

Kyujutsu      3

Medecine      5   (Antidotes, Diseases, Wounds)

Spears:         3   (Yari)

Spellcraft      2

Tea Ceremony      5
   (Her grandmother was her first instructor in this holy meditiaton, it was what they did together.) 



10   Kata


EXp   221
INSIGHT   178

[HairyHeretic]

What family and school? As a yojimbo a Kakita is probably a good choice, in which case you might want to trade out the points in kenjutsu for iaijutsu, as you can substitute the iaijutsu for the kenjutsu thanks to the school ability.

[Pumpkin Seeds]

There used to be an actual yojimbo school though for the Crane.  I forget the family off-hand though that ran this school.  They were the underhanded family of the Crane Clan.

[Muse]

What family and school? As a yojimbo a Kakita is probably a good choice, in which case you might want to trade out the points in kenjutsu for iaijutsu, as you can substitute the iaijutsu for the kenjutsu thanks to the school ability.

Daidoji is the family, the famy founded by Hayaku who brougt back Katika's katana from the shadowlands. 

Daidoji Yukiko of the Daidoji Yojimbo school.  i doubt they're an underhanded family, or at least school, their school's abilities are often based on honor. 

[Pumpkin Seeds]

Depends on how you interpret honor.  Duty to sacrifice one's name for the honor of their clan and family.  :: sticks out tongue:: Remember, the Scorpion believe themselves to be quite honorable.

[LordAnubis]

Well, i can promise the Yojimbo school they have is definatly not underhanded.  Psychos start sporting an honor of five, now where to go but down from there.

And yes, we are very honorable...  *hides my posion*

[Muse]

*Chuckles* 

so, can someone tell me if that build is broken and I just don't know it? 

[LordAnubis]

Doesn't seem broken, someone with low TN to hit will love you though, your rank three ability makes someone very happy.

[LordAnubis]

I'm currently trying to work a completely unarmed build for my Shinobi.  Only slightly cheesy.

[Muse]

all right: 

Official charecter build statment.

225 EXP and insight rank 3.  if you can keep it around 180-188 Inisight I'll be quite pleased. 


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And thanks, anumbis, I'll clean her up, take her to our shy aplicant, and see if I can get her in to come talk somewhere.  Maybe put up a board. 

Early morning snack time. 

[LordAnubis]

With that, I can definatly make a well versed Shinobi.

Except this i insight 211.  You get 2 insight for every skill at rank 5.

[schnookums]

Hrm, is there still any room for this game?

[Muse]

And cannot gain nsight for more skills than the total of your rings. 

Were you talking about Yukiko or my charecter? 

[Muse]

Hrm, is there still any room for this game?

hi there, schnookums, bit of room here.  Doubly so if your'e intrested in playing a Monk of the order if Shinsi or a shugenja. 

[Muse]

https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39764.0

*offers sakue, sushi, and Mountain Dew*

[Paladin]

all right: 

Official charecter build statment.

225 EXP and insight rank 3.  if you can keep it around 180-188 Inisight I'll be quite pleased. 


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And thanks, anumbis, I'll clean her up, take her to our shy aplicant, and see if I can get her in to come talk somewhere.  Maybe put up a board. 

Early morning snack time.

Now extrapolation is needed on my end to figure out how much XP I have.

95 in my book = 125 in yourse so _____ = 225

[Pumpkin Seeds]

171?

[Muse]

Soudns about right. 

[Paladin]

ok I'll try that

[Phaia]

i would be interested in L5R but have not played in years...use to be very good with the CCG and the gm had the very first edition rules we started with then

I have a lovely scorpain i can rework, she uses face paint as her mask, if the scrop still use masks that is.

Or even a unicorn mix.

Anyway anyone able to help out

Phaia

[HairyHeretic]

Thats a thought. Hey Muse, what year are you setting this? That will have some bearing on character choices and such.

[Paladin]

Umm Hairyt, don't quote me but I've been talking to Muse on YIM and I believe its is just a little bit after the Naga have started to wake up. I just know my character hsas some skills related to Naga and Muse ok'd them.

Also I'm looking for some Good Dragon Samurai Pics and Google is coming up short. Any help is appriciated.

[HairyHeretic]

Is that pre Scorpion coup / Clan War?

*wanders off to check his timeline*

Edit
Ok, Naga begin to awaken in significant numbers in 1124. At that point in time the final Hantei is on the throne, the Scorpion clan is dissolved and the clan war isn't too far off.

Looks like I need to come up with a new concept then.

[Paladin]

Yes, but Like I said, don't quote me on it. I'm just going off my characters past and the ideas and skills I have sent to muse and the fact that he has Ok'd them. Might want to actually double check with him to be on the safe side.

[HairyHeretic]

Ok, I'll wait on confirmation from Muse before I start working anything up.

[Muse]

You guys give me way too much credt here.  ^_^;; 

The latest event timelined in the book is in 1170. 

What should that tell me? 

[Muse]

i would be interested in L5R but have not played in years...use to be very good with the CCG and the gm had the very first edition rules we started with then

I have a lovely scorpain i can rework, she uses face paint as her mask, if the scrop still use masks that is.

Or even a unicorn mix.

Anyway anyone able to help out

Phaia

Phaia, it would be great t have you, and I/we can help. 

We're rather short on magical types right now, but maybe hairy will help with that since he has more experience with the game. 

The rolls of the virgin girl from the Unicorn and Scorpion clan are both open. 

[Muse]

https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39767.0

Offical game space for carecter gen and posting sheets. 

[HairyHeretic]

You guys give me way too much credt here.  ^_^;; 

The latest event timelined in the book is in 1170. 

What should that tell me?

I lost track of the timeline after about ... 1135 or so. I'll need to read up to get an idea of all the changes that have gone since then.

[Muse]

Also fallow that lnk for the official timeline statement. 

It's 1175. 

My feeble atempts to adhere to cannon officialy end in 1170. 

[Phaia]

is there any listing of history from 1150ish to 1170?

btw hairy ..I am interested in this...should you be afraid  ;) ;)

Phaia

[Lithos]

Hmm, I have a character that would fit the setting, but he is from 2nd ed. rules. Is there any good template for making a conversion?

[HairyHeretic]

Not really. The rules changed a lot between 2nd and 3rd.

You're probably best to simply use the 3rd ed rules and build it as close as you can to the 2nd ed one.

[Paladin]

Not really. The rules changed a lot between 2nd and 3rd.

You're probably best to simply use the 3rd ed rules and build it as close as you can to the 2nd ed one.

Indeed that would be true.

[Phaia]

I downloaded L5R core rulles as well as a ton of othe stuff [torrent]
3rd ed rules correct?

Phaia

[Pumpkin Seeds]

I so need to figure out how to use that.

[Paladin]

I downloaded L5R core rulles as well as a ton of othe stuff [torrent]
3rd ed rules correct?

Phaia

Yes 3rd ed Rules, or 2rd ed revised Rules. Contact me on YIM and I can help you with a character.

[HairyHeretic]

I so need to figure out how to use that.

*Points to the rules*

No public discussion of such things please.

And its the 3rd ed revised rules, not 2nd ed revised.

Alderac released the 3rd ed core rules, and then a year or so later a revised core rulebook. There are a few differences here and there in it.

[Phaia]

how 'E' do ya all see this as?

I have some images that could work for a character but they are show more skin then normal for L5R.



I had considered this one but  muse was asking me to play a unicorn and she is mantis




also this one



Phaia

[Paladin]

I like the last one if your going for unicorn. She's deffinatly Horn E just by looking at the helmet.

[Phaia]

i kinda like the first 2, but doubt if they are unicorn and not sure which clan she would fit in with.

Phaia

[HairyHeretic]

Second pic looks like a Centipede mon, rather than a Mantis one.

First pic, I don't know what shes supposed to be, but if she wears that armour shes going to die quickly :)

[Paladin]

Wow so I didn't get smacked by my bad Joke. Yay!!! So can you find any Male Dragon Samurai Pics?

[Paladin]

Second pic looks like a Centipede mon, rather than a Mantis one.

First pic, I don't know what shes supposed to be, but if she wears that armour shes going to die quickly :)

I wouldn't really say that Hairy. Depend how good she is and I would say that all that flesh does serve as a nice dstraction to whoever she's fighting.

[HairyHeretic]

Well, thats true, but L5R you can die pretty fast, amrour or no armour :)

[Phaia]

muse did say it was to be "e" a bit...lol but i agree the first pic is a bit impratical thats why i was asking how e it was

and yes i the image when i copied it said centiped...i didnt even know they were a clan?

Phaia

[HairyHeretic]

Minor clan. Can't remember much about them offhand.

[Phaia]

my impression from muse is that he kinda wants a bit more flesh for the 'virgins'.

The why so seriuos theme.

Muse was gonna work up a unicorm maiden for me but after downloading the books I am not sure i like the battle maidens they tend to be a bit too martial for my tastes...kick in the door kill everything go feed your horse type.

Phaia

[HairyHeretic]

You do know the Scorpion clan has a Seducer school, right? ;)

[Phaia]

umm courtiers arent they...i have been reading all these books i downloaded

Phaia

[Paladin]

Umm yes I believe they are Courtiers, but I don't play Scorpion. Phia, I can help yopu with a Character if you like. Muse has asked me to help others if they need it considering I'm allready done with my character.

[HairyHeretic]

I believe so. I've not looked that closely at them.

[Phaia]

paladin only one that i have found so far that might work




phaia

[Pumpkin Seeds]

For a moment I thought he was making the limp wrist motion.

[Muse]

I downloaded L5R core rulles as well as a ton of othe stuff [torrent]
3rd ed rules correct?

Phaia

*wrigthes in jealous* 

3rd revised, though. 

[Pumpkin Seeds]

I know it's small, but it's nice.

[Paladin]

Nice Pics. I found one I'll post up later.

I have a seriouse question for everyone though. What kind of Post Rate is everyone Comfortable with? I'm ok with 2 per week at absolute minimum, but I'd like to see faster. Say 3 A week.

[HairyHeretic]

Depending on my workload, what I can manage varys wildly. I should be able to do that though, or at least mention if I can't at that point in time.

[Paladin]

Ok Folks, Heres the Pic I found.

[kckolbe]

I don't have the rule book, but have played the D&D Rokugan setting and am very keen on the history, if not the current events of the setting.  I have a soft spot for Mantis (and many minor clans), but can play others.  Really depends on the char concept.

[Paladin]

I feel sorry for yopu then Kckolbe. The DnD version sucked. Actually it was worse than sucked but thats the worst catagory I can come up with. I really need to make up new catagories for stuff so bad its worse than suck.

[kckolbe]

Yeah, the system blew, but I loved the setting and had a good GM.  No complaints here.  Is the rulebook required?

[Muse]

not nessicarily, Kckolbe.  i often help people new to a sytem through things. 

If you don't mind my making acharecter for you, we can probably get youin. 

A lotofthesefolks can help too, though Pally really should get the Revised book before he tries to help withcharecters. 

(He's been an amazing help in spite of that, as have Anubis and Asku and any number ofothers.  :)  ) 

Here's a much improved game intro. 

* *  *



In 1170, Emperor Totori III and his imediate family where assasinated, whiping out the last of his blood line.  Celestial forces interceded to stop a new series of clan wars, sending a dragon to coil around the imperial pallace and declaring that he would allow none to enter the throne room save the winner of the invitational tournament to be held in 1174.  'Til then, he would watch every person of samurai blood in all of Rokugan, seeing every great deed.  The 777 who did the greatest deeds would be invited to participate in a tournament, and to the winner would go the mandate of heaven to take the throne. 

Miya Rumiko, most beautiful maiden of the Miya family, daughter of the most beautful Dragon family Samurai-ko of her generation, put aside her courtier's finery to don her mother's armor and katana.  She left the court with three rivals, two human supporters, a Nezumi, and a Naga.  They devoted themselves for the next four years to earning their way to the tournament by rooting out the taint of Jinkugo that was rotting it's way into the heart of Rokugan.  May songs be sung of their deeds when their bones have splintered to ash. 

In 1174 Rumiko bested two rivals, Miyazawa of the Crane Clan and Akito of the Lion Clan, and her third, Himura of the Spider Clan, fought her with all he had, proved the better, but rather than draw her blood in victory surendered with the words, "Curious.  Four years, I've fought to best you in this moment.  Now I know my true ambition is nothing more than to spend the rest of my life the way I have these past four years." 

In the last fight, Rumiko faced a samurai whom she knew to be tainted by Jingoku and poised to bring an army of oni into the capitol.  Seeing on his belt the red gold flute that could unleash a hundred demons on the city with a single trill, she foresook her ambitions and cut him down in the tournament.  In the shocked hush that followed, she offered the tainted object to the dragon, informed him of it's use, and then offered her sipoku for the crime of violating the strictures of the tourment. 

The dragon smiled, "And so, as all you have done in pursuit of your ambitions has been an act of purification, so are you too in this moment washed clean of your ambitions.  For your crime, I take from you the name of the person you once were, and impose upon you the geas of heaven with your new name, and with it the mandate of heeaven.  Rise, Empress Jade, and purify the land that you rule." 

Her eyes have been the collor of Jade ever since. 

*   *   *

That was six months ago. 

Rokugan now scrambles to recover from the chaos that lead up to the tournament as the Empress works to solidify her position and excercise her mandate.  Though the Crab Clan are among her fiercest supporters, they must as always devote the vast majority of their forces to the Wall that keeps the Shadowlands from spreading it's taint across the world. 

Across the mountains from the wall, in crab lands proper, word has spread that two provinces have faced peasent uprisings so extensive that the only possible response was slaughter. 

Letters go out now, to dirctly to current veteran emerald magistraits, but also the Daimyo of the clans ordering specific samurai by name drafted into the Emerald Magistraits to travel to the city of Kyuden Kitsune in Mantis lands where they will recieve their instructions from the monk Guseppi. 

[Muse]

The Eight Bright Stars

   Bright Star of Akodo's Blood    (Lion Clan)      Open 
   Bright Star of Bayushi's Blood    (Scorpion Clan)     Open?  Phaia?
Yukiko: Bright Star of Doji's Blood.   (Crane Clan)       Aeval. 
   Bright star of Hantei's Blood.  (Imperial bloodlnes.)   Open. 
?   Bright Star of Hida's Blood.   (Crab Clan)      Asku


?   Bright Star of Shiba's Blood   (Pheonix Can)      Solstice
   Bright Star of Shinjo's Blood   (Unicorn Clan)      Open
   Bright Star of Togashi's blood   (Dragon Clan)      Open

   Every century so, it has been recorded in a few obscure texts, eight bright stars are born, beautiful damsels, karmicliy linked, stagering of acomplishment and destiny, but doomed, should they live long enough to bear issue, to be outshined by their sons. 

   For unkown reasons, the Empress Jade has signed orders requesting many, maybe all, of the still virgin Bright stars for this mission. 

   (Though having just turned twenty three would make her over a year older than any other of the Bright Stars, some might wonder if Jade ishereself one of them.  Most however, have never even come across any of the four obscure texts that mention the Eight Bright Stars.) 

   *   *   *

This is a game of Legend of the Five Rings with the added twist of a few factions in the know contesting for the hand in marriage of or, in the case of darker forces, simply the son of, the Eight Bright Stars.  Though I hope tohave some fun with that aspect, (exaclty how much fun decided mostly by the players of the individual bright stars and the dictates of the story), this is not an orgy story, a romp, or a farce.  It is, however, a game, and as the mission statement points out, if anyone tells me i can't do something in the holy game of L5R, my most likely response will be, "Watch me!" 

It is also a game on Eliquiy, and one that encourages the use of non-violent solutions to problems.  I encourage both these things.  If love, lust, seduction, or a tasteful non con scene will further the mision, go for it.  If it will detract from the plot, please don't bother.  if its somewhere in between, i'm quite happy to happy to encourage side stories.  :)

[Paladin]

Muse, I don't have the Money to get the Revised edition. I feel the revised edition is not needed and is just a way for AEG to make more money. There wasn't enough changes to warrent a revised edition. From what I'm told the changes could have been put in a 2 page erratta sheet.

[kckolbe]

Well, I remain interested.  Is playing a bright star required?  If so, I might have a fun char concept already, a Lion who was "ronined"  Akodo Bei (I created him as an NPC for a game I was going to run that never happened).  If not, I'll just as soon play a random samurai.

[kckolbe]

Also, just occurred to me I might be able to buy it online and download it.  What is the name of the book?

[Paladin]

Well, I remain interested.  Is playing a bright star required?  If so, I might have a fun char concept already, a Lion who was "ronined"  Akodo Bei (I created him as an NPC for a game I was going to run that never happened).  If not, I'll just as soon play a random samurai.

The Bright star thing is an idea of Muse's and I think they are all to be Female. Also the main book. is Legend of the 5 Rings: Revised edition. Look on RPG drivethrough. I think it was 22$ roughly rather than 35 or 40.

[Muse]

Indeed on both the bright stars genders and the name of the book. 

pally and i had a telephone confrence and figured out he difrences between charece generation rules.  if you need to buld from a third edition book, and need to buy an Advantage with exp, it costs double.  Only difrence we've found. 

[Muse]

Also, just occurred to me I might be able to buy it online and download it.  What is the name of the book?

Kc kolbe, sugestions for charecters who aren't bright stars. 

A.  They were either emerald magistrats in the past, or had done something to distincguish themselves in the last few years to draw the attenion of the emerald magistraits. 

B.  Somewhere, someone, for some reason, has inserted into the chain of orders that the magistraits (old and new) recruited for the job (who are not Bright Stars) should be sedcable.  So they should havea reputation, deserved or otherwise, that by the time it got to the ears of some distant person made them think, "this person is a person who can be controled through their heart or loins." 

We have shugenja and bushi a plenty, but not many others. 

no monks, or exmaple, or courtiers that i'm aware of.  Alterntaivly, if you didn't want to participate in the erotic happenings at all, but still watned to play, you could play a nezumi. 

[kckolbe]

Oh, I am up for being part of all of it.  I could play a more courtier-esque char if that is lacking, and I will keep your points in mind (I need to look at the rules before committing too much to a particular char concept).  Anyways, off to RPG drive through!

EDIT:100% downloaded, about to be ready (RPGdrivethru/RPGdrivethrough didn't show up so I went to RPGnow)

[Pumpkin Seeds]

http://www.zastavki.com/pictures/1920x1200/2008/Fantasy_The_girl_the_Samurai_009566_.jpg

The picture is too big to put here.  But it's good for anyone thinking of Lion Clan.

[HairyHeretic]

Muse, how do you want to handle someone wanting to play an Emerald Magistrate? Would that be GM appointed, or bought as an advantage?

I'm fairly familiar with the Magistrates, after spending 3 years running the City of Lies with my own pen and paper group :)

[Paladin]

Muse, how do you want to handle someone wanting to play an Emerald Magistrate? Would that be GM appointed, or bought as an advantage?

I'm fairly familiar with the Magistrates, after spending 3 years running the City of Lies with my own pen and paper group :)

Umm Hairy, I think we are going to be turned into Emerald Magistraits for this game.

[Muse]

Indeed, but if you were a senior emerald magistrait, buy ranks in the advantage "Social standing.' 

[HairyHeretic]

I wasn't quite sure. After all, you have both Emerald and Clan magistrates, who are served by Yoriki and Doshin, and a non bushi magistrate could easily have a Yojimbo too. Plenty of roles for people outside of just Magistrates.

[Paladin]

Now this I didn't know myself. Interesting.

[HairyHeretic]

If you want to think of the Magistrate as being the Judge, the Yoriki is the Police Chief, and the Doshin are the beat cops.

Clan Magistrates have authority within their own clans lands, and may be assigned to the staff of an Emerald Magistrate, as according to the Emerald Magistrates charter, there are some crimes fall within the purview of the Emerald Champion, and some within that of a Clan or City Magistrate.

Shukenga can frequently have yojimbo (bodyguards) to take challenges for them, and while less seen for a Courtier, its not impossible.

Similarly, a Magistrate can have non Magistrate staff as experts .. perhaps a Tsuruchi bounty hunter, a Kuni witchhunter or a Phoenix shukenga, to provide skills they themselves lack. Additionally, you might have your own eta torturer.

I'm kinda tempted to go for the senior magistrate, and buy a few servants for an enterage :)

[HairyHeretic]

Charter of the Emerald Magistrate

Wherein is delineated: those matters which concern the Emerald Magistrates; those duties which the Emerald Magistrate shall at all times labor to discharge; those restrictions placed upon the Magistrate to ensure honorable justice within his or her jurisdiction; and those rights and privileges give to the Magistrate to aid in the pursuit of justice and social order.

Part One: Jurisdiction

Wherein is delineated those crimes which are specifically the concern of the Emerald Magistrate and which require diligent pursuit.

Section One: Crimes Against The Emperor Any attempt to harm, insult, endanger, steal from or otherwise inconvenience the Son of Heaven is a crime deserving of the utmost attention from all Emerald Magistrates. Any similar action taken against a member of the Emperor's family shall be constituted as a gesture against the Emperor himself and as such merits the attention of the Emerald Magistrate. Similarly, any action against a direct servant of the Emperor or the Imperial Family shall also be a matter of concern for the Emerald Magistrate.

Section Two: National Crimes Crimes (including theft, murder, treason, robbery, murder, forgery, armed uprising, tax fraud and other transgression of local law) which are national in scope, either in planning or execution, are a concern for all Emerald Magistrates.

Section Three: Shadowlands Incursions Any entry into Rokugan by denizens of the Shadowlands or by those who have been corrupted by the influence of the Shadowlands, or by those who have made pacts with the sinister forces of the Shadowlands, are forbidden by law. The enforcement of this law is the duty of the Emerald Magistrates. Crimes committed within Rokugan by violators of this law also fall withing the enforcement charter of the Emerald Magistrates.

Section Four: Fugitives The capture of any criminal who has fled across city or clan territorial boundaries is a matter of concern for all Emerald Magistrates, regardless of the scope of the crime or the location of its commission. Similarly, any criminal who flees the location of his or her crime, or attempts to, falls within the operational purview of Emerald Magistrates.

Section Five: Organized Blasphemy Any meeting of more than two individuals for the express purpose of participating in blasphemous or obscene rituals is forbidden, and is a matter of concern for the Emerald Magistrates.

Section Six: Civil Disorder and General Lawlessness Any crimes or actions with result in widespread civil disorder and/or general disrespect for the law and its enforcers is within the jurisdiction of the Emerald Magistrates.

Part Two: Duties

Wherein are delineated those tasks that the Emerald Magistrate is honor-bound to perform in additon to enforcing Imperial Law.

Section One: Tax and Tariff Collection It is the duty of the office of the Emerald Magistrate to oversee the collection of the yearly Imperial Tax and to enforce tariffs upon goods being transported across clan boundaries. In the case of larger cities this duty may be delegated to tax officials operating under official charger from teh Emerald Champion. In such cases, it is still the duty of the local Emerald Magistrate(s) to audit the collections, ensure their accuracy and protect the tax collectors and the gathered taxes.

Section Two: Authorizing Travel Papers It is the duty of the Emerald Magistrate to make him- or herself available at least one day a week to sign Imperial travel documents. Such documents are required only in the following instances: for persons who intend to travel across two different clan boundaries; for persons who require an open pass to all points within the Emerald Empire; for persons whose travel papers are to remain valid for longer than one year but not more than five years; or for residents who are not native to Rokugan.

Section Three: Protection of Visiting Dignitaries Dignitaries from outside Clan boundaries may, if they wish, request that the local Emerald Magistrate provide protection against threats mundane, military and supernatural. The Emerald Champion is bound to provide protection appropriate to the threat and to the visitor's social station.

Section Four: Briefing the Emerald Champion Once per month, the Emerald Magistrate shall meet with the Emerald Champion to provide a briefing on his or her current and ongoing activities and investigations. The Emerald Champion shall also be informed about any matters of national concern.

Section Five: Notification of Non-Jurisdictional Crimes When any Emerald Magistrate becomes aware of a crime that is outside his or her jurisdiction, that Magistrate is honor bound to give a thorough briefing on the matter to whatever authority has jurisdiction over the crime in question.

Section Six: Briefing the Governor The city or regional Governor of the province in which an Emerald Magistrate is stationed may, at any time, demand an accounting of the Magistrate's current and ongoing investigations. The Emerald Magistrate is to provide a detailed accounting in no less than three days. The Governor may not demand such an accounting more than once per month.

Section Seven: Notification of Accusations If a person of samurai class, living or dead, has been accused of or implicated in a crime being investigated by the Emerald Magistrates, it is the duty of said Magistrates to inform the local family and/or clan leader of the accusation.

Part Three: Restrictions

Wherein are delineated those tasks, investigations and duties which are excluded from the obligations of the Emerald Magistrate

Section One: Incidental Law Enforcement It is not the duty of the Emerald Magistrate to provide street patrols or random policing.

Section Two: Problems of Limited Scope It is not the duty of the Emerald Magistrates to investigate crimes which are strictly a local concern

Section Three: Authorization of Blood Feuds Emerald Magistrates have no authority over the matter of blood feuds. They can neither authorize such a feud nor declare one invalid.

Section Four: Levying of Troops Emerald Magistrates have no authority to command the service of troops except as noted below in Part Four: Sections Five and Six

Section Five: Acceptance of Gifts and Monies No Emerald Magistrate shall accept gifts, favors, monies, services or special considerations in exchange for any aspect of his or her duties as magistrate.

Part Four: Rights

Wherein are delineated those special privileges, powers and rights which are given to Emerald Magistrates to enable them to better pursue their goals and duties

Section One: Right of Questioning In the case of persons of inferior social class, station or worth, an Emerald Magistrate may arrest and restrain the individual for questioning about criminal matters. The right of arrest, restraint and inquisition also applies to individuals of superior social class, worth or station who are apprehended in a criminal act by an Emerald Magistrate. Persons of higher social rank, station or value may be apprehended, imprisoned and questioned if the Emerald Magistrate has obtained a valid Order of Appearance (cf. Part, Section Three)

Section Two: Right of Sentencing If a signed confession has been notarized by an Emerald Magistrate, that Magistrate may opt to sentence the confessed criminal. This right of sentencing may be passed on to a different Emerald Magistrate, at the option of the notarizing Magistrate. Transcribed confessions are legitimate only in the case of illiterate criminals. Sentences are to be appropriate for the crime and its circumstances. Possible sentences include, but are not limited to the following: execution by beheading for samurai criminals; execution by hanging from the neck for criminals of lower class; class-appropriate executions for spouses, parents or children of criminals, cuffing for periods not to exceed three months; public beatings with rods, sticks or whipse; house arrest; or fines, the sum of which is to be remitted to the office of the Emerald Champion.

Section Three: Orders of Appearance An Emerald Magistrate may exercise rights of arrest, imprisonment and inquisition upon persons of higher social worth only upon the presentation of a valid Order of Appearance. An Order of Appearance must describe in detail the crime of which the samurai is accused, it must be dated within one month of its presentation and it must be signed by the presenting Magistrate or Magistrates. In addition to this signature, it must also have the signature of one of the following: the Emerald Champion; the city or province Governor; or the local chief magistrate. The date of an Order of Appearance must be listed as the date on which the last individidual signed it.

Section Four: Right to Prior Information It is the duty of local Governors and daimyo to inform Emerald Magistrates of large scale military or police actions within that Emerald Magistrate's jurisdiction at least one day before the action occurs.

Section Five: Right to Commandeer Troops Emerald Magistrates have the right to amass groups of troops for necessary operations, provided that they inform the local daimyo of Governor of their intentions. They may commandeer troops from local leaders if they can show demonstrable need and provide reasonable financial compensation for the troops services.

Section Six: Right of Imperial Levy Emerald Magistrates may, at any time, petition the Emerald Champion for the command of Emerald Legions. The assignment of those Legions is entirely at the discretion of the Emerald Champion. Emerald Legions have rights of actions and armament in any and all places within the Emerald Empire.

Section Seven: Right of Privy Investigation If there is a conflict of jurisdiction between an Emerald Magistrate and a local magistrate, the jurisdiction of the Emerald Magistrate takes precedence. If the Emerald Magistrate presents the local magistrate with a signed and dated Order of Privy Investigation, that magistrate must immediately cease all new investigations into the matter of contention. An Order of Privy Investigation is valid only if it fulfills the following conditions: it is dated on the day it was completed; it is signed by the Emerald Magistrate; it contains a complete description of the crime in question; and it explains, completely and reasonably, why the two investigations cannont proceed in parallel fashion.

Section Eight: Right of Travel Authorization In addition to their power to pen Imperial travel documents (defined in Part Two, Section Two), Emerald Magistrates also have the right to provide valid travel documents of more limited scope. These documents cannot be confiscated or contradicted by local magistrates for more than two days.

[Paladin]

Ok Quick Question here. My charcters Glory is 5 (Was 6 but I took a 3 point disadvantage that lowered it to 5) My Glory shows that I would be a Commander or in Rokugani terms Shireikan. Well on Status it shows that Shireikan are Staus 6. I know Status 1 is for starting Level characters, Are we going to get any Status points to raise our status considering we are much Higher starting characters than normal, or would we just apply the status level that is the same as our Glory Level? i'm kinda confused on how this would work considering I have never started off as a 3rd level character before and I think we should get some status increase for being so high without paying for it. I'm not saying it has to be OMG high but a point or two 1 for each of the two levels sounds fair to me.

[HairyHeretic]

Glory and Status aren't necessarily tied that closely together. Status is political rank, Glory is personal fame. A Magistrate is status of 4 - 4.5, but their glory could change widely depending on how great their deeds, and how well they were known.

After all, if you kill the dread Oni lord, and no one sees you do it, you're not going to get any Glory for the act.

[Paladin]

Good point. and yea thats what I just read in my book. Otherwise if they were tied that closely tougether I'd have status of 6. But still I see it as Feaseable that our Status would go up at least 1 point after all we probably would have done to achieve our third rank in our schools. It does say that  that gaining Glory often leads to an increase in Status as well.

[Paladin]

Also, How much Koku do we have?. I know we got Koku at starting rank, do we get more?

[HairyHeretic]

Good point. and yea thats what I just read in my book. Otherwise if they were tied that closely tougether I'd have status of 6. But still I see it as Feaseable that our Status would go up at least 1 point after all we probably would have done to achieve our third rank in our schools. It does say that  that gaining Glory often leads to an increase in Status as well.

I would see the increase in Status as coming from a samurai being given more responsibility by their Lord, as a result of their Glory increase.

[HairyHeretic]

Muse, whats the current breakdown in terms of bushi / courtiers / shukenja.

You mentioned a while back hoping I'd play a shukenja. You still need that? I've no objections to doing one up if we need one.

[Pumpkin Seeds]

I know he is currently asking for non-bushi and shugenja.  An actual Magistrate with investigation and courtier would probably do well.  If I'm guaging our needs correctly anyway.

[Lithos]

My character would be courtier / duelist, but I do not have access to 3rd edition rulebooks :(

Checked through every friend I have and no one has 3rd ed.

If someone is interested in helping, I could pm my 2nd ed stats, and could see about how it could be made something similar. I would be quite excited about this game since it is the tabletop that I have enjoyed the most.

[Paladin]

Lithos, PM me your 2nd ed stats and I'll do my best to make them match. Might take me a day or two but I'll get it done.

[HairyHeretic]

Ok, I'll whip up a shukenjga / magistrate then.

[Muse]

Hiya, folks, casting call is now officialy going from open to tightened.  i'll whip up a list of who i've got and what i need. 

Hairy, i'mnot as shugenja tight as before, but i'm not overloaded, either. 

No brotherhood of shinjei yet, or any other sort of monk either, which is not nessicarily requesting one of you. 

[Muse]

Glory, honor, stuats, and heritage. 

*  *  *

initial honor rules are unchanged.  honor (0-5) is determined by school, and modified by full ranks as a 3 point advantage/disdvantage. 

Glorry and Status may be altered by up to 1 in a direction apropriate to concept at no cost.  The Social Standing merit grants a full rank of status each time it is taken. 

*  *  *

Heritage house rule.  Rather than rolling 0-3 times on the heritage table for 0, 0, 1, or 2 points, spend 3 points and send me your background with 3 posootive or mixed blessing heritages chosen to fit it.  i'llballance things with a negative choice to make the campaing intresting. 

[Muse]

Heritage house rule.  Rather than rolling 0-3 times on the heritage table for 0, 0, 1, or 2 points, spend 3 points and send me your background with 3 posootive or mixed blessing heritages chosen to fit it.  i'llballance things with a negative choice to make the campaing intresting.

Clarification; rather than, you may. 

Aka that is an etiher/or option, not menat to force upon you the house rule. 

[Muse]

Hi, folks,can we cap skills at 7?  And tht for our most notworthy skills? 

[Muse]

Aeval      Bright STar of   'Blood      Daidojo Yojimbo      Yojimbo   
Anubis      Scoripion Clan           shinobi      ?
Asku      Bright Star of Hida's Blood   Kuni Shugenja      Witch Hunter
Cirlmaster:   Clan Dragonfly         Tonbo Shugenja      Emerald Magistrait
Hair Heretic:               ? Shegenja      Emerald Magistrait
kckolbe      Crab Clan         Courtier/bushi      ?
Paladin:   Dragon Clan         Mirimoto Bushi      Assistant
Phaia      Bright Star of 's Blood      Courtier/Bushi      Emerald Magistrait
Solstice   Bright Star of 's Blood      Shugenja      Assistant
Ty      Crab? Bushi         Courtier/Bushi      Asistant
Cryorage   ?            ?         ?

*   *   *

This is getting to be a good sized game even for me. 

At this point, i will only accept aplications to play: 

One of the three remaining bright stars of the Great Clans. 

A Togashi Tatooed Man/woman. 

1 other sort of monk. 

A nezumi. 

[Phaia]

sorry have to pull out of this...still getting handle on L5R and dont have the time to truely devote

Phaia

[Paladin]

sorry have to pull out of this...still getting handle on L5R and dont have the time to truely devote

Phaia

If you need help Phia, I can provide assistance.