Marvel Comics in Film: What Might the Future Hold?

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Mathim

For anyone who's into the whole superhero film scene (particularly the Marvel Cinematic Universe, that encompasses the Avengers continuity), I wanted some opinions on what you guys liked about the films, what you absolutely hated, what you'd have done differently, what your favorite parts were, etc.

But more importantly, I want your opinions (whether you guys swing one way or the other, or both) on who should portray certain heroes and heroines in future films, such as the X-Men movies, Spider-Man, anything from the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) or reboots of other films that crapped out the first time (Ghost Rider, Fantastic Four). I'll get the ball rolling with a few names I'd like some opinions on in particular. On this list, who, in your opinion (and don't be afraid to give multiple answers) should play the following:

Henry 'Hank' Pym (Ant-Man)?

Janet Van Dyne (Wasp)?

Scott Lang (the second Ant-Man)?

Doctor Stephen Strange?

Wong, assistant to Doctor Strange?

Baron Mordo, enemy of Doctor Strange?

Jennifer Walters (She-Hulk)?

Carol Danvers (Miss Marvel)?

Feel free to throw out any other characters and who you think should play them. Looks are important, but don't forget to take acting ability (and accents where applicable) into account! I'm especially interested in who people believe should play Doctor Strange.
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Inkidu

Well, you can count out any Spider-Man or Fantastic Four properties because those are still held by Sony and Fox respectively.

So:

I'd really go in for another Captain America movie. I love the Cap. :)

I'd like to see Dr. Strange or a Miss Marvel as new properties.
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Unfortunately, my choice for Dr. Strange has left us.  :'(  I can't think of anyone who would fit the bill better than the late Vincent Price.
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Inkidu

Quote from: Oniya on June 24, 2013, 09:48:11 PM
Unfortunately, my choice for Dr. Strange has left us.  :'(  I can't think of anyone who would fit the bill better than the late Vincent Price.
Yeah... :(

I'd recommend Paul Blackthorn though (he played Harry Dresden in the short-lived TV adaptation).

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Moraline

I'd like to see some of the smaller properties get made into movies. (or better yet a full season on like HBO)

Runaways - Nico Minoru, Karoline Dean, Molly Hayes, Chase Stein, Alex Wilder, Gertrude Yorkes, Old Lace, Victor Mancha, Xavin, and Klara Prase
Heroes for Hire (2006 edition) -  (I like this team because it's almost all female) - Colleen Wing, Misty Knight, the new Tarantula, Shang-Chi, Humbug, Orka, Black Cat and Paladin

Mathim

It just actually popped into my mind that possibly Mark Strong could play Dr. Strange if he got the right person to dye his hair just the right mix of grey and black. But from what I've heard, right after Avengers 2, the Phase 2 stage of the Marvel Cinematic Universe is over and Phase 3 begins with Ant-Man (directed by Edgar Wright, the man who brought us Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz, and the upcoming The World's End which looks freaking awesome) and, according to the producers, Doctor Strange's own movie will follow that one. Rumor has it Doc Strange will make a cameo in Thor: The Dark World this November.

Captain America the Winter Soldier is in theaters next spring, so look forward to that, Cap fans. Hopefully the uniform looks a little less hokey next time. Don't know why they changed it so radically from CA:tFA to the Avengers.

I'll have to look up Paul Blackthorn, I've never heard of him but I'm curious to see if he's got the right look to play Doctor Strange. It should ideally be someone with a British style accent.

Heroes for Hire was something I definitely envisioned as a TV series on HBO, with the primary focus being on Iron Fist, Power Man (Luke Cage) and Shang-Chi, with cameos or recurring roles for the mentioned females and some of the other allies. Too bad it wouldn't work as feasibly in the same universe as the Marvel Cinematic continuity for it to be any good. I don't know much about the Runaways but with the number of people in the cast, it would probably also work much better as a series or miniseries on one of the networks that can swing a nice budget and give it the quality it deserves.

I'm a little concerned about the upcoming Guardians of the Galaxy film. Not many comic book/Marvel fans really know anything about them and lots of popular actors have parts in it, and they've inflated it with tons of other characters as well like Nova; I just feel like it's a bad move to introduce something so radical with seemingly insufficient backstory, and gamble their growing budget on a property that doesn't have the same popularity or clout that other Marvel characters have.

Iron Man 3, I felt was pretty terribly disappointing and even Joss Whedon expressed concern about where to go from there (specifically getting Iron Man back into the Avengers for the sequel) so I'm kind of worried about future films as well. Not sure if the blame can be put down to the company now being owned by Disney or just the awful scripts that got greenlighted but whoever worked on that one should be blacklisted permanently. Let's cross our fingers that Thor 2, Cap 2 and Avengers 2 can raise the bar up from where IM3 lowered it.

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I think he is from somewhere in the United Kingdom.
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Huh, that's a different picture than I saw on IMDB. But he doesn't look grizzled enough. Mark Strong (at least in the role of Sinestro in Green Lantern) looked like he had a gruff sort of vibe to him, but I haven't seen your guy in action so maybe if I looked up some youtube footage.
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Quote from: Oniya on June 24, 2013, 09:48:11 PM
Unfortunately, my choice for Dr. Strange has left us.  :'(  I can't think of anyone who would fit the bill better than the late Vincent Price.

Liam Neeson.
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Moraline

How about a remake of "Howard the Duck" but it would have to be just as cheesy and bad as the last one. I can't see it going any other way. If it did, it just wouldn't be Howard.

Oniya

Quote from: Moraline on June 26, 2013, 04:04:05 PM
How about a remake of "Howard the Duck" but it would have to be just as cheesy and bad as the last one. I can't see it going any other way. If it did, it just wouldn't be Howard.

It would have to be in 2015, so we could resurrect the All-Night Party in time for the elections.
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Mathim

Interesting idea. If they made it purposefully a comedy that just happens to have some action in it, a remake of Howard the Duck might work. If they did it all in CGI instead of using a puppet/costume and had more interaction with the Duck planet instead of just trapping him on Earth that might be kind of interesting. What company owns the rights to him, anyway?

Liam Neeson for Doctor Strange...damn, that's an interesting idea. He could certainly handle the part, though he might be burnt out on superhero stuff after Batman Begins and The Dark Knight Rises.
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Quote from: Mathim on June 26, 2013, 05:42:41 PM
Interesting idea. If they made it purposefully a comedy that just happens to have some action in it, a remake of Howard the Duck might work. If they did it all in CGI instead of using a puppet/costume and had more interaction with the Duck planet instead of just trapping him on Earth that might be kind of interesting. What company owns the rights to him, anyway?

Liam Neeson for Doctor Strange...damn, that's an interesting idea. He could certainly handle the part, though he might be burnt out on superhero stuff after Batman Begins and The Dark Knight Rises.
He's a Marvel property. At least I think he is.

He made an appearance in the Marvel Civil War series. He showed up to be registered as a superhero because he wanted to collect a government paycheck but the guy at the office had a hate on for him.


Oniya

Yup, he was made while Steve Gerber was still at Marvel, and showed up in a couple of different series as well as his own.
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undisclosedtoyou

I don't know about who I'd like to play who, but I have opinions!  Woot.

Okay, so I'm super excited about the upcoming Ant-Man movie.  Butttt, I sorta really wanted him to be included in the whole, forming Avengers thing, since he was, technically, a founding member.  Even though, okay, he's probably low on most people's, fav comic hero list, he's still sort of awesome, well, all incarnations of him are sorta awesome.  That being said, I do have to say that my liking this character is mainly because I'm a fan of Cassandra Lang as Stature, in the Young Avengers.

Now, my take on the Thor movies are that I liked them.  Butttt I would have liked a little more details on Thor's and Loki's history.  It sort of glossed over things, and for people who haven't read the comics, they wouldn't necessarily understand why Thor and Loki's relationship is so crap-tastic.  Not saying that they didn't address it, but it could have be expounded a bit more.  But hey, the upside is that it looks like they might be doing this in the upcoming Thor movie, which has plenty of potential, since Loki is a villain people sort of love to root for while being against him, at the same time.

Quote from: Moraline on June 25, 2013, 02:08:07 PM
I'd like to see some of the smaller properties get made into movies. (or better yet a full season on like HBO)

Runaways - Nico Minoru, Karoline Dean, Molly Hayes, Chase Stein, Alex Wilder, Gertrude Yorkes, Old Lace, Victor Mancha, Xavin, and Klara Prase
Heroes for Hire (2006 edition) -  (I like this team because it's almost all female) - Colleen Wing, Misty Knight, the new Tarantula, Shang-Chi, Humbug, Orka, Black Cat and Paladin

Yes!  Basically I agree with this.  An HBO show centered around a Marvel Super, while it may end up being more than slightly pornographic, would be awesome. 

I only really got the chance to read the Runaways, while reading the Young Avengers/Runaways, Civil War issues.  But I really liked what I read, especially since it came so highly recommended by my local comic book shop owner.  TBH, if they keep cranking out these Avengers films, I hope they come out with the Young Avengers to.  Than the time frame would be perfect for a Runaways film.
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There was/is an Ant-Man film in the works.  ETA 2014 at last count.

As is a Dr. Strange movie.  This one's slated for 2015, I'd heard.
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undisclosedtoyou

Quote from: Chris Brady on June 26, 2013, 09:47:01 PM
There was/is an Ant-Man film in the works.  ETA 2014 at last count.

As is a Dr. Strange movie.  This one's slated for 2015, I'd heard.

I've been super excited about this Ant Man film for what feels like forever >>  lol.
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I hope it does well, if it ever comes out.  And that it dispels the whole 'wife beater' BS, that he's been damaged by as a character.
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I'd be super angry if they just crap out on this film and it's not made well. 
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Not sure the details of if/when it's coming out.  Truth be told, it's more Wasp's story than it was Ant-Man's.  Their first appearance had her get him to give her the 'Pym Particles' treatment so that she could rescue...  Her father?  I think.  Been a damn long time since I read that comic.   And it was old when I started reading.

Clarification:  In case no one knows, the whole 'wife beating' thing happened in Avenger's 213 and was apparently an overenthusiastic interpretation of an artist:

http://www.comicvine.com/articles/off-my-mind-is-hank-pym-a-wife-beater-or-did-he-ge/1100-143296/  There's a link to Jim Shooter (who wrote the issue) that claims it was not his intent.
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Mathim

The Ant-Man film is going to be post-Avengers 2 so that makes it 2015 at the earliest, by one of our favorite British directors, Edgar Wright. I really want it to include both Ant-Man and Wasp together, so they can phase out Hawkeye and Black Widow as Avengers, making the whole team super instead of mixing in some normal folks, since they are a male and female pair who can replace a male and female pair. I'd heard that the original, Hank Pym, is going to take something of a backseat to Scott Lang, the second, which makes me feel conflicted since that could affect Wasp's involvement. I like the idea of Bradley Cooper for Hank Pym but who would be a good Janet Van Dyne/Wasp to pair with him? Preferably someone who hasn't already done any kind of superhero movie already.

After that, Dr. Strange so probably 2016 at the soonest. The order seems to be:
Thor The Dark World (late 2013)
Captain America The Winter Soldier (early 2014)
Guardians of the Galaxy (late 2014)
Avengers 2 (early 2015)
Ant-Man (late 2015)
Dr. Strange (presumably early 2016)

So yeah, some of those are a little ways off.

As for Howard the Duck, I meant which movie company owns the rights to him? Like how Fox owns the X-Men's film rights and such while Marvel Studios gets to do their own thing with Iron Man and the other Avengers characters. I know he's a Marvel character or he wouldn't have been mentioned. He was pretty funny in Marvel Zombies, incidentally.
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Oniya

Universal Studios did the movie, but George Lucas directed and ILM was involved in the effects - Disney might have an angle on that.
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The problem with Paul Blackthorne is that he's still in Arrow, not sure what his contract is like but I can't see DC Entertainment being happy about him working for their rivals

Mathim

He is? Well, so much the better. It kind of annoys me when actors play multiple superhero movie roles (Ryan Reynolds, I'm looking at you!) I didn't like Chris Evans as the Human Torch but I am enjoying him as Cap, though.
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