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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #3900 on: July 20, 2023, 03:04:57 am »
heh, would be an interesting one to look at.. though unless they are brand new freshmade kits it might not count with older kit boxes, and i doubt they would rule against GW in that case if it was centered around the old kits.
Not to mention they could possibly just say "well, we know those old ones dont quite work with the new layout, but having to recall all of them from the stores and all would bankrupt us, so to help fix this we have released small minikits with all you need to update those old boxes into codex correct!

or something along those lines that make sense.

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #3901 on: July 21, 2023, 11:07:57 am »
The problem is that it doesn't make it easier. I play World Eaters. It took me weeks to find a army build that wasn't missing 100 or more points that was remotely good. It is very very limiting and for some factions because they have less choices in the units they have... for someone with a limited budget... you are completely screwed when it comes to list building a lot leaving you at a disadvantage on the battlefield.

It does and doesn't, yeah.

It does for a new person just making baby's first list.

It doesn't if you need just a little bit more for a list.


But then it does again because once you figure out what you need, you go out and buy 4 more boxes to make the new list work, previously you'd just buy one model.

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #3902 on: July 22, 2023, 05:12:45 pm »
It does and doesn't, yeah.

It does for a new person just making baby's first list.

It doesn't if you need just a little bit more for a list.


But then it does again because once you figure out what you need, you go out and buy 4 more boxes to make the new list work, previously you'd just buy one model.

Having to go out and buy four more boxes over just one model to make a list work is exactly the problem... the game is expensive enough as it is.

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #3903 on: August 11, 2023, 05:55:52 am »
Having to go out and buy four more boxes over just one model to make a list work is exactly the problem... the game is expensive enough as it is.

Oh I agree wholeheartedly, its why I have a 3d printer and dont mind proxies at all.


Speaking of opinion, I think they fudged the boarding patrols about as much as they could have.

Btw this is gonna be a rant.   
Boarding patrols are a ruleset modification that came out at the tail end of 9th edition in December. It actually features a pretty neat vision and action system (that could still be improved but I wont talk about that here). The premise is that you have a limited list of units you can take there, some modifications to units that would absolutely dominate the limited field (for a good reason too), you have specific strategems only usable for Boarding patrols.
This was all fine, this is how you are supposed to do this. Make rules and balance the game for those rules. Perfect.

And then 10th came out.

Armies are balanced around the complement of rules and unit stats. Some armies have stronger unit rules for weaker army rules and strategems, others have the opposite deal going. 
This is still all fine. And Boarding Patrols got their 10th update. Or did they. They got a new unit list that you can take, which is for the most part more open compared to the previous one. But they never got their detachment rules and strategems updated.
The official advice so far is "use 9th boarding patrol detachment rules and strategems and 10th unit stats".
Except this doesnt work.
Some of the old strategems are overpowered in 10th, others are mildly useful (but way less than they were in 9th) and others are straight up unusable. 
So currently, this amazing rules system is bogged down by whether or not your particular strategem and detachment list is actually useful for the units you have. You either will have an amazing time or and absolutely horrible one.

Oh and worst of all, they actually limited tyranid lists to the absolute worst units for the format, especially against SM players.

This has been a massive disappointment for me as I really loved the idea of the vision and action rules they brought out, but the fact that a rule set 8 months old is outdated on the border of being unplayable (and one that had 5 rulebook releases meanwhile, mind you) is just so disappointing to me.


There, rant over.

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #3904 on: August 26, 2023, 07:33:32 am »
I had a busy month


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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #3905 on: August 26, 2023, 08:39:03 am »
Lovely colour scheme! ;D

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #3906 on: September 15, 2023, 09:30:27 pm »
I'll admit I barely know anything about Warhammer 40k. But from what I've seen it is interesting and had a lot of lore to get into, though for me it be alot and hard to get into for a newbie like me.

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #3907 on: September 16, 2023, 12:56:36 pm »
I'll admit I barely know anything about Warhammer 40k. But from what I've seen it is interesting and had a lot of lore to get into, though for me it be alot and hard to get into for a newbie like me.
I'd look up Luetin09 https://www.youtube.com/@Luetin09

If that's too long then I'd look up Weshammer, then Arbiter Ian, then MajorKill in terms of length. Just pick a topic you want to know about and they've probably done a video on it between them.

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #3908 on: September 17, 2023, 07:43:44 pm »
I had a busy month



Somebody get the black light! I bet these are awesome under it!

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #3909 on: September 19, 2023, 09:06:40 am »
Somebody get the black light! I bet these are awesome under it!

Well hopefully!

The skin highlights and edges of the carapace should be UV reactive :)

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #3910 on: September 22, 2023, 01:57:25 pm »
Well hopefully!

The skin highlights and edges of the carapace should be UV reactive :)

Would make awesome scenery photos if build scenery which uses blacklight illuminate it and some marines or imperial guard facing them  :-)

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #3911 on: September 29, 2023, 10:23:51 am »
Would make awesome scenery photos if build scenery which uses blacklight illuminate it and some marines or imperial guard facing them  :-)

Well, since having the UV reactive paints, I have spent many a day considering if I should spend 10 bucks to get a flashlight...the day didnt come yet :D

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Re: WH40000 - what's your opinion?
« Reply #3912 on: September 29, 2023, 10:45:57 am »
Well, since having the UV reactive paints, I have spent many a day considering if I should spend 10 bucks to get a flashlight...the day didnt come yet :D

But tempted I see  ;)