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Vergil1989

Fire is not earth.  Sand, metal, lava, those are all evolutions around earth.  Fire is not earth.
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Drake Valentine

Hate to break it to you, but you forget when Korra released the Spirit World and left it open for set period of time and  people were mysteriously gaining power to bend from it. Of course none may of not multi-bend at that time, but they gained power regardless with connection from spirits.

There is also the point of where U(-whatever it's name was) was released, letting many spirits from it were scattered. Who is to say that those spirits never possessed other people to allow them the potential to multi bend as U(keep forgetting its name) was the opposite to Raava. Thus enter the Dark Avatar who could of potentially multi-bend as well, but it is doubtful that any turtles at that time would of been willing to share their power with evil incantation.

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Unavatuu, after Vatuu fused with Unalaq, might have become the Dark Avatar after the spirit portals were opened at the poles, but he was the exception to the rule just as Korra was.  As for people gaining powers it was ONLY airbending that they got from Harmonic Convergence, nothing more.  Anyone already able to bend was not affected.  They didn't get any multi bending.  I don't know why it's so hard for you to get.  One bending element, that's it.
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Drake Valentine

Regardless, the fact remains that a spirit passed through them to allow them to bend.

Yes, but feel free to explain all the subdivisions of mud bending, sand bending, lava bending, metal bending. Mud bending is technically earth+water.

Also the turtles stated no one has MASTER all 4 elements before, they never said anything about no one ever learning more than one.

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arthenwel

Quote from: Drake Valentine on June 01, 2016, 11:37:13 AM
Also the turtles stated no one has MASTER all 4 elements before, they never said anything about no one ever learning more than one.
Actually, you might want to go back and check yourself, because Raava specifically states that the human body cannot handle more than one bending at a time. Ravaa became the conducter of the bending. When she passed through the first, she was changing his bending so that he could master them all. The only reason he was able to use all 4 at the same time was when Ravaa merged with him and she expressly stated that if they stayed in that state for more than a few minutes it could kill him. Harmonic convergence fused Ravaa with the first. That is why every avatar is able to bend all 4 elements. To be able to multibend, they would have to wait for 1000 years until the next harmonic convergence. Even then, you would have to have a spirit willing to be fused with 0 control of the body. Not something many would do. The only reason Ravaa did was to save the world.

Also, mud can be either water or earth. It just depends on the concentration of dirt to water. Also, theoretically, metal benders could control blood if there was enough iron in the body. The reason Katara needed toph to clean the water wasn't because she couldn't bend the water, but because she couldn't pull the sludge out of it. Toph could bend the sludge, but couldn't get rid of the water.

Also, harmonic convergence only unlocked those with the potential to airbend, which, as toph stated in the first season, is because of how you approach a situation.
 
Also, if you read the background of avatar. The air nomads were the only nation that was 100% benders. Thus why only airbenders appeared after the harmonic convergence.

From what I can see, it only looks like you want two bending elements to prevent having any weaknesses.
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Vergil1989

Thank you for pointing that out Art, I forgot about that honestly.  I will say Season 2 of LoK had its issues, but they did lay out some important history and lore for the Avatar verse.  And besides, the resurgence of Airbending came about at all because of what happened to the Air Nomads during the Hundred Year War.  Harmonic Convergence simply put the world back into balance as far as the elements were concerned, but yes, what Art said was true beyond some minor additions on my part.
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arthenwel

Another reason only air benders popped up is because airbenders were spiritually tuned unlike the other benders. Only airbenders are able to connect to the spirit realm and only the Avatar is able to go where he pleases.
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Vergil1989

Having a disagreement about Drake being allowed two elements instead of the traditional one.  It shouldn't be allowed because beyond the Avatar, it just doesn't happen, period.
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la dame en noir

I didn't notice that.

But I have to say, coming at players in a harsh manner isn't necessary at all. I just got off work and drama was the last thing I expected to see in here.

I'm just gonna...sigh
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arthenwel

Just giving some reference of the history and background and clearing up some points that weren't actually correct. If someone's going to argue for something, I think they should get their reference material Correct.
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Vergil1989

I do apologize for the one post I put here, that was uncalled for, but I saw that and after not getting enough sleep last night, I'll readily admit I got a bit...cross.  But the point remains, two or more elements, outside the Avatar, doesn't happen in any of the mediums for the fandom.  Comics, shows, books, no one has ever demonstrated more than one elemental ability outside of subsets for their particular element.  And as Art said, if you're going to argue, get your references and information correct.
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la dame en noir

I do agree...only the Avatar should be able to handle more than 1 element.

Sub-elements are fine. I only agree because its canon and I want to keep it that way.

But there is absolutely NO reason to belittle or come at someone from a rude angle. I'm just happy its over.

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And as I said I apologize for that because you're right as well Dame.  That shouldn't have come out as it did, no matter the reason, but it did and all I can do is make up for that and let it go.  This is supposed to be fun anyway, but that kind of thing annoys me on a good day, and today isn't a good day lol.
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I'm interest now. The multi bending destroys the whole game world in my opinion. So, I was holding off on stating my interest until it was resolved and stated clearly. Now that a 1 element rule has been stated, I will be putting in a cs for inspection when I can.
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la dame en noir

I updated the profile and rules.

Just...please guys - I don't like drama. I've had a very long day, this is how I make friends and escape. This is a positive place. If someone isn't going in the right direction, guide them - don't belittle them.

It was my fault for not making it obvious in my rules, I just assumed most people knew that bit of information already. I'm only one GM.
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Quote from: la dame en noir on June 01, 2016, 03:18:15 PM
I updated the profile and rules.

Just...please guys - I don't like drama. I've had a very long day, this is how I make friends and escape. This is a positive place. If someone isn't going in the right direction, guide them - don't belittle them.

It was my fault for not making it obvious in my rules, I just assumed most people knew that bit of information already. I'm only one GM.

Don't beat yourself up. You cant account for how people will react and do things. *hug* :)

arthenwel

Wasn't belittling anyone. Just throwing out information that may not have been known or just overlooked.
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OOO I'm soooo happy you're using a Two Steps From Hell song! :3
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Vergil1989

I'm not entirely sure firebenders can energy bend or read the chi of someone as you suggest.  Bloodbending waterbenders can interrupt the flow of chi needed to bend, as proven by Amon during the first season of LoK, and while I know firebenders can manipulate and redirect lightning, I'm not sure that extends to the energy in the body itself.  Beyond that though, and that's just me really asking if that's a thing or not, I like what I see already CK.  ;D  The song choice is also awesome lol.
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Anyone can learn chi reading/manipulation I think, benders and non-benders alike. Those with bending abilities just have a greater affinity for it. Ty Lee, a non-Bender, could block chi in people's body with pinpoint precision attacks. Waterbenders can employ it in their healing process. Firebenders are not excused either. In order to even lightning bend, you have to be able to redirect the chi of your body. So  it's not impossible at all. In fact her character needs to be aware of it even to employ lightning-bending. Those with the combustion abilities use their chi to direct the fire bending through their forehead, one of the chakras or whatever. I have no issue with it.
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Vergil1989

Ah, good points on everything there Benny.  And you're right.  Katara's a waterbending healer, as was her namesake before her along the same lines, the whole chi bit I mean.  As for firebenders, you make a valid point, the same with Ty Lee able to interrupt the flow of energy with pinpoint precision strikes.  That little acrobat was cute as hell but she scared the shit outta me at the same time lol.  But alright, I'll shut up, this time.  :P
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